Where were the leaders supporting the Fallujah Four?

Dorian Gray · 2nd April 2004, 09:46 PM

Those four American civilians were captured, tortured, killed, burned, didmembered, dragged through the streets and finally hung from a bridge in Fallujah. NOT ONE SINGLE OFFICIAL has acknowledged this publically by either expressing sorrow or anger.

How can Bush continue to claim he shows leadership? He was so f*cking giddy over the jobs that he completely ignored those four men. After 9/11, he might have been right on it, but now he's not only dropped the ball, he's deflated it.

But hey, I'm fair. Kerry said nothing about it either. Neither did the senators, the congressmen, the generals, or anyone else in high positions. In fact, here's the position of an officer in the f*cking MILITARY!

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Meanwhile, the military defended its decision not to go into Fallujah Wednesday after the security contractors were killed. "Should we have sent in a tank so we could have gotten, with all due respect, four dead bodies back?" said one officer. "What good would that have done? A mob is a mob. All we would have done was provoke them."

It's a goddamn war! Who cares if you provoke them? What a f*cking idiot!

So anyway, I am pretty disappointed with all those leaders and military types and their complete lack of acknowledgement. It would have been nice if Bush would have given a short speech, about the same length as when he was announcing that Rice would now testify openly under oath, saying that the punishnment for this action would be fierce and swift. Maybe with a couple of ultimatums in there somewhere.

* http://slate.msn.com/id/2098163/

EvilYeti · 2nd April 2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dorian Gray

How can Bush continue to claim he shows leadership? He was so f*cking giddy over the jobs that he completely ignored those four men. After 9/11, he might have been right on it, but now he's not only dropped the ball, he's deflated it.

Well, at least we know where four of those new jobs came from!

demon · 3rd April 2004, 12:03 AM

DG, you are writing uninformed rubbish.
The champagne bombers have had plenty to say about this incident. Take a look at the NY Post Online for example.

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April 1, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - President Bush and his aides vowed yesterday that the U.S. mission to create a free and democratic Iraq would not be derailed by the savage slaying of four American security guards.
"America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins," the president said at a fund-raising dinner in Washington. "We are aggressively striking the terrorists in Iraq. We will defeat them so we do not have to face them in our own country."

Bush said that the savages "would rather go on killing the innocent than accept the advance of liberty. And there's a reason why. They know that a free Iraq will be a major defeat for the cause of terror."

White House officials promised there would be no repeat of the aftermath of the infamous 1993 "Black Hawk Down" incident, when mobs dragged the body of a U.S. soldier through the streets of Mogadishu, Somalia, in 1993. That prompted the Clinton administration to withdraw troops from the strife-torn nation.

"It's offensive, it's despicable the way these individuals have been treated," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

"These are horrific attacks by people who are trying to prevent democracy from moving forward. But democracy is taking root and we are making important progress.

"We will not turn back from the effort."

The Bush administration sought to counter the grisly images of the massacre by portraying the attack as a last gasp by dwindling numbers of the former Ba'athist regime.'

"These former regime elements, these terrorists who are making trouble, will be dealt with and they will be defeated," Secretary of State Colin Powell said during a visit to Berlin.

"The Iraqi people will be free. It will happen. They will have a democracy and the international community will make that come about," Powell added.

The four Americans were employees of the North Carolina-based Blackwater Security, which provides security for food deliveries in the Fallujah area.

"They were trying to make a difference and to help others," said State Department spokesman Adam Ereli.

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/17941.htm
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DG: "It's a goddamn war! Who cares if you provoke them? What aN idiot!"

Hmm, There was me thinking it was "liberation" and bringing "freedom and democracy to Iraq". It's easy to see why the Iraqis see it otherwise and you, with that attitude are a classic example of why they do.

Anyway, those four American "civilians" weren't civilians. They were friggin' mercenaries. They got what they were paid to get and they don`t deserve anymore than that.

Dorian Gray · 3rd April 2004, 10:14 PM

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"America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins," the president said at a fund-raising dinner in Washington.

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"These former regime elements, these terrorists who are making trouble, will be dealt with and they will be defeated," Secretary of State Colin Powell said during a visit to Berlin.

This is what I am talking about. No public announcement, just an add on to what they were already doing. The killings, mutilation, etc., happened on Wednesday March 29. Bush said something in passing at a dinner on April 1. Can you feel the love from him?

They were not mercenaries, speaking of uninformed rubbish. Perhaps you should read up a little before criticizing me. They were civilians from Blackwater Security Consulting, a US security company. 'Guards' would be a better description.

2nd April 2004, 09:46 PM	#1
Dorian Gray Hypocrisy Detector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 20,195	Where were the leaders supporting the Fallujah Four? Those four American civilians were captured, tortured, killed, burned, didmembered, dragged through the streets and finally hung from a bridge in Fallujah. NOT ONE SINGLE OFFICIAL has acknowledged this publically by either expressing sorrow or anger. How can Bush continue to claim he shows leadership? He was so fcking giddy over the jobs that he completely ignored those four men. After 9/11, he might have been right on it, but now he's not only dropped the ball, he's deflated it. But hey, I'm fair. Kerry said nothing about it either. Neither did the senators, the congressmen, the generals, or anyone else in high positions. In fact, here's the position of an officer in the fcking MILITARY! Quote: Meanwhile, the military defended its decision not to go into Fallujah Wednesday after the security contractors were killed. "Should we have sent in a tank so we could have gotten, with all due respect, four dead bodies back?" said one officer. "What good would that have done? A mob is a mob. All we would have done was provoke them." It's a goddamn war! Who cares if you provoke them? What a fcking idiot! So anyway, I am pretty disappointed with all those leaders and military types and their complete lack of acknowledgement. It would have been nice if Bush would have given a short speech, about the same length as when he was announcing that Rice would now testify openly under oath, saying that the punishnment for this action would be fierce and swift. Maybe with a couple of ultimatums in there somewhere. http://slate.msn.com/id/2098163/

2nd April 2004, 10:55 PM	#2
EvilYeti Suspended Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,594	Re: Where were the leaders supporting the Fallujah Four? Quote: Originally posted by Dorian Gray How can Bush continue to claim he shows leadership? He was so f*cking giddy over the jobs that he completely ignored those four men. After 9/11, he might have been right on it, but now he's not only dropped the ball, he's deflated it. Well, at least we know where four of those new jobs came from!
EvilYeti Suspended Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,594

3rd April 2004, 12:03 AM	#3
demon Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,744	DG, you are writing uninformed rubbish. The champagne bombers have had plenty to say about this incident. Take a look at the NY Post Online for example. quote: April 1, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - President Bush and his aides vowed yesterday that the U.S. mission to create a free and democratic Iraq would not be derailed by the savage slaying of four American security guards. "America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins," the president said at a fund-raising dinner in Washington. "We are aggressively striking the terrorists in Iraq. We will defeat them so we do not have to face them in our own country." Bush said that the savages "would rather go on killing the innocent than accept the advance of liberty. And there's a reason why. They know that a free Iraq will be a major defeat for the cause of terror." White House officials promised there would be no repeat of the aftermath of the infamous 1993 "Black Hawk Down" incident, when mobs dragged the body of a U.S. soldier through the streets of Mogadishu, Somalia, in 1993. That prompted the Clinton administration to withdraw troops from the strife-torn nation. "It's offensive, it's despicable the way these individuals have been treated," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. "These are horrific attacks by people who are trying to prevent democracy from moving forward. But democracy is taking root and we are making important progress. "We will not turn back from the effort." The Bush administration sought to counter the grisly images of the massacre by portraying the attack as a last gasp by dwindling numbers of the former Ba'athist regime.' "These former regime elements, these terrorists who are making trouble, will be dealt with and they will be defeated," Secretary of State Colin Powell said during a visit to Berlin. "The Iraqi people will be free. It will happen. They will have a democracy and the international community will make that come about," Powell added. The four Americans were employees of the North Carolina-based Blackwater Security, which provides security for food deliveries in the Fallujah area. "They were trying to make a difference and to help others," said State Department spokesman Adam Ereli. http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/17941.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DG: "It's a goddamn war! Who cares if you provoke them? What aN idiot!" Hmm, There was me thinking it was "liberation" and bringing "freedom and democracy to Iraq". It's easy to see why the Iraqis see it otherwise and you, with that attitude are a classic example of why they do. Anyway, those four American "civilians" weren't civilians. They were friggin' mercenaries. They got what they were paid to get and they don`t deserve anymore than that.
demon Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,744

3rd April 2004, 10:14 PM	#4
Dorian Gray Hypocrisy Detector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 20,195	Quote: "America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins," the president said at a fund-raising dinner in Washington. Quote: "These former regime elements, these terrorists who are making trouble, will be dealt with and they will be defeated," Secretary of State Colin Powell said during a visit to Berlin. This is what I am talking about. No public announcement, just an add on to what they were already doing. The killings, mutilation, etc., happened on Wednesday March 29. Bush said something in passing at a dinner on April 1. Can you feel the love from him? They were not mercenaries, speaking of uninformed rubbish. Perhaps you should read up a little before criticizing me. They were civilians from Blackwater Security Consulting, a US security company. 'Guards' would be a better description.