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William Parcher · 16th June 2011, 09:40 AM

There is a mud spot that appears in front of the "big toe" in both prints. The Finding Bigfoot team should have noticed this oddity.

Drewbot · 16th June 2011, 10:33 AM

The spot is in the exact same spot on both prints

Óðinn · 17th June 2011, 01:51 PM

Toe drag.

atpeace · 17th June 2011, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Óðinn

Toe drag.

Or a cane. My guess it's an older bigfoot who can't chase down the deer along the Powerline Bigfoot Highway so it raids residential trash cans and absconds with little dogs and kitties.

sillyhead · 17th June 2011, 02:23 PM

Maybe some hippies could help out. This year, the National Gathering of the Rainbow Family of Living Light will be held in Washington, in Skookum Meadows, which is "the most well know big foot habitat" according to the directions there.

parnassus · 17th June 2011, 03:12 PM

"tracks" that begin out of nowhere and go nowhere. Classic for faked tracks since the Days of Paul Freeman.

LTC8K6 · 17th June 2011, 04:22 PM

Right rear foot of the pig it was carrying.

William Parcher · 18th June 2011, 12:30 PM

Tomorrow night is the Finding Bigfoot episode from Oregon. It will feature the McKenzie River Bigfoot video which we previously discussed here.

Drewbot · 18th June 2011, 01:46 PM

An old bigfoot using a cane. #Toolusingsasquatch

lancemoody · 18th June 2011, 05:16 PM

I blogged the story of how the stars of Finding Bigfoot have turned on the producers of the show. The whole thing is pretty funny.

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mustbeso · 18th June 2011, 08:09 PM

I use a cane and I have big feet. Is this an omen?

LTC8K6 · 18th June 2011, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by mustbeso

I use a cane and I have big feet. Is this an omen?

Where were you that day?

William Parcher · 19th June 2011, 03:23 PM

There are two preview clips for tonight's episode.

Bobo hears a coyote with his parabolic ear and says "That's a Squatch!"

The shill is back doing tree knocks.

They try to lure in a Bigfoot using a live rabbit in a cage.

GeeMack · 19th June 2011, 04:34 PM

I just caught a moment of the show, and it sounded like a fellow said one of the biggest differences between a bear and a Sasquatch is the size. Interesting that he neglected to mention probably the most glaring difference, that being the simple fact that bears are actually known to exist and the Sasquatch isn't. In fact, given the fact that Sasquatch is not even known to exist, describing some characteristic of it like its size seems to be an exercise in stupidity.

atpeace · 19th June 2011, 04:58 PM

http://animal.discovery.com/videos/f...-evidence.html

"The bigfoot team explains how they can tell real evidence from fake. Since only a few pieces of what they deem real evidence exist, it's fairly easy for them to spot a fake." Animal Planet

italic and bolding mine
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LTC8K6 · 19th June 2011, 08:55 PM

"That's a squatch!"

LTC8K6 · 19th June 2011, 08:57 PM

Squatch urine!

But they abandon it...

HarryHenderson · 19th June 2011, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by sillyhead

...Skookum Meadows, which is "the most well know big foot habitat" according to the directions there.

I think at one time they counted 37 Bigfeet 'running through the meadow' in a single 24 hour period. So you better believe it's the 'most' Bigfoot anything...ever...period! Mister!

Originally Posted by GeeMack

...given the fact that Sasquatch is not even known to exist, describing some characteristic of it like its size seems to be an exercise in stupidity.

Criticizing such 'exercises' is pretty much the main focus of most of the JREF Bigfoot threads.

Originally Posted by atpeace

...only a few pieces...

Anyone know what those 'few pieces' are?

parnassus · 19th June 2011, 09:49 PM

Highlights of tonight's Oregon show:

Renae sometimes loses the librarian glasses.

"squatchy area" is understood to mean "there ain't squat there"

Rusty and Brady had the thrown rock, the wood knocks, the screams, the glowing eyes and a cast; they certainly did their homework.

atpeace · 20th June 2011, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by HarryHenderson

Anyone know what those 'few pieces' are?

Yeah, it makes about as much sense as bigfootery in general since they've already gathered a "few" pieces of evidence in 4 episodes of Finding Bigfoot and they've been at this for how many years? I'm sure someone(?) will point out the statement was an error made by AP producers. Which is true. It should have said "no piece of what science deems real evidence exists...".

The Shrike · 20th June 2011, 06:40 AM

Got to see a few minutes of this ridiculous show yesterday - the thorough debunking of the Mike Greene thermal video was more delicious than any Zagnut bar. Some other observations:

1) That Moneymaker is a far bigger a-- than I realized. He's even evil to his own people. I thought I was watching an episode of Bridezillas on one of his tantrums.

2) The part during which they think they caught a bigfoot on the thermal camera and MM goes "running" after it - what was up with his people criticizing him for that? Isn't that one of the major problems with BFRO expeditions, that no one ever pursues the squatch?

3) The couple on the 4-wheelers saw a big hairy creature on four legs whose hindquarters were higher than its forequarters? This wasn't a bear because . . . ?

Drewbot · 20th June 2011, 07:06 AM

3. It was a person?

The Shrike · 20th June 2011, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

3. It was a person?

Yeah, that would work too, but I'd rule out bear first given their description.

parnassus · 20th June 2011, 12:10 PM

By the way, in the North Carolina episode, that deer's broken leg:
LOL Moneymaker the orthopedic surgeon
That was NOT a spiral fracture.
That was an oblique (nearly transverse) fracture of the type usually seen when a vehicle strikes a person....an impact injury, not a twisting injury.

It would be treated with an intramedullary nail. Spiral fractures are at a lesser angle to the long axis and generally exhibit a more irregular edge. If surgery is required they are generally treated with compression.

I guess MM should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

(I anticipate the bleevers response: Bigfoot could have been driving a vehicle.)

Drewbot · 20th June 2011, 12:11 PM

I am itching to settle down tonight and watch my FINDING BIGFOOT on TIVO.

It is absolutely horrible Television... but... I ... CAN'T... look... awaaaaayyyyyy....

If anything, BOBO should get his own show out of this. He is so theatrically money, in a Larry Fine kind of way.

Drewbot · 20th June 2011, 12:19 PM

It looked like a spiral fracture to me, I went on Google, and looked up spiral fracture on Images. And some of them look surprisingly like a spiral fracture.

Take a look at this, it looks just like the bone on the show
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...Op_AP_View.jpg

William Parcher · 20th June 2011, 12:28 PM

It would be great if the producers put out a Making of Finding Bigfoot after the series airs as a surprise to the cast. The shill was wearing a camera and we get to see him running around knocking trees, howling, throwing rocks, etc. They show us how they made fake tracks for the team to find. Interviews with some witnesses who confess to fabricating their stories. All hoaxes get explained and the cast declared that stuff to be Bigfoot. That would be awesome.

parnassus · 20th June 2011, 12:33 PM

Drew
Actually to the trained eye that radiograph of a spiral fracture doesn't look like what was on the show. Notice the angle and the "splintering." The deer fracture was more like a snapped carrot.

Btw many many roadkills on m-115 including more coons than I have ever seen; one hit by my son on 131.

Drewbot · 20th June 2011, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by parnassus

Actually to the trained eye that radiograph of a spiral fracture doesn't look like what was on the show. Notice the angle and the "splintering." The deer fracture was more like a snapped carrot.

Btw many many roadkills on m-115 including more coons than I have ever seen.

No doubt! I saw so many dead coons, turtles and deer up there, but, alas, no sign of that Clare County Bigfoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_U1...eature=related
Look at 9:17, and tell me that doesn't look like the Xray

parnassus · 20th June 2011, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Tomorrow night is the Finding Bigfoot episode from Oregon. It will feature the McKenzie River Bigfoot video which we previously discussed here.

http://forums.randi.org/attachment.p...9&d=1283623480 http://forums.randi.org/attachment.p...1&d=1283623892

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...BigfootAG1.gif

Yes the disgusting part is that Barackman had already debunked it on his website. http://northamericanbigfoot.blogspot...ation.html?m=1

Mr.D · 20th June 2011, 12:54 PM

I don't know what you guys are complaining about.

It's the Funniest Show EVER.

It's supposed to be funny, right?

William Parcher · 20th June 2011, 01:14 PM

Finding Bigfoot - Oregon is now on YouTube. Parts 1-3.

LTC8K6 · 20th June 2011, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

No doubt! I saw so many dead coons, turtles and deer up there, but, alas, no sign of that Clare County Bigfoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_U1...eature=related
Look at 9:17, and tell me that doesn't look like the Xray

You can link to the time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_U1...ailpage#t=550s

parnassus · 20th June 2011, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Finding Bigfoot - Oregon is now on YouTube. Parts 1-3.

Ike's Bar was one of the venues for this past weeks Oregon Sasquatch Symposium. http://webs.dudamobile.com/site/webs...etwork=fw#0023

Wakeup · 20th June 2011, 02:47 PM

The problem with shows like 'Finding Bigfoot' is the high level of enthusiasm without the proper approach. Never have I seen the True Believers ask for other opinions or analysis. To conclude video imagery as genuine you must use reverse science and rule out all possibilities FIRST. There is a reason why they use the 100% sasquatch confirm so often, it's because NOTHING in any footage is descernible, Hence, there is no sasquatch, PERIOD!.

Time has run out on Outrageous folklores like Bigfoot. The true believers in The Bigfoot myth will continune to see Giant 800 pound apes behind every tree in North America. MY theory is to debate what we know as Fact and conclusive such as Known tangible evidence and irrefutable data which amounts to absolutely Nothing after 5 decades and countless hours of searching. Where is the Proof ..????????

Bigfoot doesn't exist. But the American forest would be pretty boring without a good mystery and idiots who still believe.

atpeace · 20th June 2011, 03:27 PM

I am just now watching Fishing in Oregon and the very last time they show the whitewater video (before they get to the town meeting) it is much clearer and I easily see a white cap and a dark t-shirt and the persons naked arms below the sleeves. It is at 16:30 on my download. It is so obvious. Wonder why the other images were soo much blobbier?

atpeace · 20th June 2011, 04:11 PM

I don't know, my doubts are fading. It does make perfect sense that a blobsquatch would leave the shown blobfootprint and bloburine.

They repeated a couple times how BF doesn't like to reveal itself in daylight hours. I wonder what percentage of the 4000+ sightings on the infamous database are daylight sightings. I remember reading quite a lot of them.

Drewbot · 20th June 2011, 05:27 PM

Cliff- 'whether this film shows a sasquatch or not, we are CLEARLY in a very squatchy area.'

Clearly.

Drewbot · 20th June 2011, 05:37 PM

Bobo on Squatch
'They're probably the rarest animal in North America'

Drewbot · 21st June 2011, 04:26 AM

The team set up a 500 watt speaker system on one of the hills overlooking a valley.
I couldn't help but wonder, 'what would answer the call?'.

Would it be coyote?, elk?, or even a lone wolf?
NO!

It's Bigfoot, It's Bigfoot, it BIG it's hairy it stinks,
It's Bigfoot, It's Bigfoot, it's good for a nod and a wink.

Really though, the result of the giant call blasting from the BFRO hill, was most likely a response from another Bigfoot group on the next hill over, and a resulting symphony of Bigfoot calls radiating outward from each hillside in the entire Williamette valley, each group proudly reporting bigfoot contact, ignorant of the isolated farmhouses and cabins lying quietly (as it were) in the valleys below. Each of those with owners wondering aloud 'Wow, the coyotes a sure havin' a fit tonight'.

16th June 2011, 09:40 AM	#281
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,533	There is a mud spot that appears in front of the "big toe" in both prints. The Finding Bigfoot team should have noticed this oddity.
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16th June 2011, 10:33 AM	#282
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	The spot is in the exact same spot on both prints
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17th June 2011, 01:51 PM	#283
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17th June 2011, 01:55 PM	#284
atpeace Guest Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 208	Originally Posted by Óðinn Toe drag. Or a cane. My guess it's an older bigfoot who can't chase down the deer along the Powerline Bigfoot Highway so it raids residential trash cans and absconds with little dogs and kitties.
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17th June 2011, 02:23 PM	#285
sillyhead Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 408	Maybe some hippies could help out. This year, the National Gathering of the Rainbow Family of Living Light will be held in Washington, in Skookum Meadows, which is "the most well know big foot habitat" according to the directions there.
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17th June 2011, 03:12 PM	#286
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	"tracks" that begin out of nowhere and go nowhere. Classic for faked tracks since the Days of Paul Freeman.
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17th June 2011, 04:22 PM	#287
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,755	Right rear foot of the pig it was carrying.
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18th June 2011, 12:30 PM	#288
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,533	Tomorrow night is the Finding Bigfoot episode from Oregon. It will feature the McKenzie River Bigfoot video which we previously discussed here.
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18th June 2011, 01:46 PM	#289
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	An old bigfoot using a cane. #Toolusingsasquatch
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18th June 2011, 05:16 PM	#290
lancemoody Student Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 46	I blogged the story of how the stars of Finding Bigfoot have turned on the producers of the show. The whole thing is pretty funny. Lance Moody notaghost.com
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18th June 2011, 08:09 PM	#291
mustbeso Thinker Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 128	I use a cane and I have big feet. Is this an omen?
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18th June 2011, 08:52 PM	#292
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,755	Originally Posted by mustbeso I use a cane and I have big feet. Is this an omen? Where were you that day?
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19th June 2011, 04:34 PM	#294
GeeMack Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Not Bandiagara Posts: 7,241	I just caught a moment of the show, and it sounded like a fellow said one of the biggest differences between a bear and a Sasquatch is the size. Interesting that he neglected to mention probably the most glaring difference, that being the simple fact that bears are actually known to exist and the Sasquatch isn't. In fact, given the fact that Sasquatch is not even known to exist, describing some characteristic of it like its size seems to be an exercise in stupidity.

19th June 2011, 04:58 PM	#295
atpeace Guest Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 208	http://animal.discovery.com/videos/f...-evidence.html "The bigfoot team explains how they can tell real evidence from fake. Since only a few* pieces of what they deem real evidence exist*, it's fairly easy for them to spot a fake." Animal Planet italic and bolding mine ap
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19th June 2011, 08:55 PM	#296
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19th June 2011, 08:57 PM	#297
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19th June 2011, 09:21 PM	#298
HarryHenderson Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: All up in your business Posts: 721	Originally Posted by sillyhead ...Skookum Meadows, which is "the most well know big foot habitat" according to the directions there. I think at one time they counted 37 Bigfeet 'running through the meadow' in a single 24 hour period. So you better believe it's the 'most' Bigfoot anything...ever...period! Mister! Originally Posted by GeeMack ...given the fact that Sasquatch is not even known to exist, describing some characteristic of it like its size seems to be an exercise in stupidity. Criticizing such 'exercises' is pretty much the main focus of most of the JREF Bigfoot threads. Originally Posted by atpeace ...only a few pieces... Anyone know what those 'few pieces' are?
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19th June 2011, 09:49 PM	#299
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	Highlights of tonight's Oregon show: Renae sometimes loses the librarian glasses. "squatchy area" is understood to mean "there ain't squat there" Rusty and Brady had the thrown rock, the wood knocks, the screams, the glowing eyes and a cast; they certainly did their homework.
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20th June 2011, 12:06 AM	#300
atpeace Guest Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 208	Originally Posted by HarryHenderson Anyone know what those 'few pieces' are? Yeah, it makes about as much sense as bigfootery in general since they've already gathered a "few" pieces of evidence in 4 episodes of Finding Bigfoot and they've been at this for how many years? I'm sure someone(?) will point out the statement was an error made by AP producers. Which is true. It should have said "no piece of what science deems real evidence exists...".
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20th June 2011, 06:40 AM	#301
The Shrike Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,838	Got to see a few minutes of this ridiculous show yesterday - the thorough debunking of the Mike Greene thermal video was more delicious than any Zagnut bar. Some other observations: 1) That Moneymaker is a far bigger a-- than I realized. He's even evil to his own people. I thought I was watching an episode of Bridezillas on one of his tantrums. 2) The part during which they think they caught a bigfoot on the thermal camera and MM goes "running" after it - what was up with his people criticizing him for that? Isn't that one of the major problems with BFRO expeditions, that no one ever pursues the squatch? 3) The couple on the 4-wheelers saw a big hairy creature on four legs whose hindquarters were higher than its forequarters? This wasn't a bear because . . . ?

20th June 2011, 07:06 AM	#302
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	3. It was a person?
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

20th June 2011, 08:34 AM	#303
The Shrike Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,838	Originally Posted by Drewbot 3. It was a person? Yeah, that would work too, but I'd rule out bear first given their description.

20th June 2011, 12:10 PM	#304
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	By the way, in the North Carolina episode, that deer's broken leg: LOL Moneymaker the orthopedic surgeon That was NOT a spiral fracture. That was an oblique (nearly transverse) fracture of the type usually seen when a vehicle strikes a person....an impact injury, not a twisting injury. It would be treated with an intramedullary nail. Spiral fractures are at a lesser angle to the long axis and generally exhibit a more irregular edge. If surgery is required they are generally treated with compression. I guess MM should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. (I anticipate the bleevers response: Bigfoot could have been driving a vehicle.)
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20th June 2011, 12:11 PM	#305
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	I am itching to settle down tonight and watch my FINDING BIGFOOT on TIVO. It is absolutely horrible Television... but... I ... CAN'T... look... awaaaaayyyyyy.... If anything, BOBO should get his own show out of this. He is so theatrically money, in a Larry Fine kind of way.
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20th June 2011, 12:19 PM	#306
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	It looked like a spiral fracture to me, I went on Google, and looked up spiral fracture on Images. And some of them look surprisingly like a spiral fracture. Take a look at this, it looks just like the bone on the show http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...Op_AP_View.jpg
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

20th June 2011, 12:28 PM	#307
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,533	It would be great if the producers put out a Making of Finding Bigfoot after the series airs as a surprise to the cast. The shill was wearing a camera and we get to see him running around knocking trees, howling, throwing rocks, etc. They show us how they made fake tracks for the team to find. Interviews with some witnesses who confess to fabricating their stories. All hoaxes get explained and the cast declared that stuff to be Bigfoot. That would be awesome.
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20th June 2011, 12:33 PM	#308
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	Drew Actually to the trained eye that radiograph of a spiral fracture doesn't look like what was on the show. Notice the angle and the "splintering." The deer fracture was more like a snapped carrot. Btw many many roadkills on m-115 including more coons than I have ever seen; one hit by my son on 131.
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20th June 2011, 12:38 PM	#309
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,874	Originally Posted by parnassus Actually to the trained eye that radiograph of a spiral fracture doesn't look like what was on the show. Notice the angle and the "splintering." The deer fracture was more like a snapped carrot. Btw many many roadkills on m-115 including more coons than I have ever seen. No doubt! I saw so many dead coons, turtles and deer up there, but, alas, no sign of that Clare County Bigfoot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_U1...eature=related Look at 9:17, and tell me that doesn't look like the Xray
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20th June 2011, 12:43 PM	#310
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	Originally Posted by William Parcher Tomorrow night is the Finding Bigfoot episode from Oregon. It will feature the McKenzie River Bigfoot video which we previously discussed here. http://forums.randi.org/attachment.p...9&d=1283623480 http://forums.randi.org/attachment.p...1&d=1283623892 http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...BigfootAG1.gif Yes the disgusting part is that Barackman had already debunked it on his website. http://northamericanbigfoot.blogspot...ation.html?m=1
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20th June 2011, 12:54 PM	#311
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20th June 2011, 01:14 PM	#312
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,533	Finding Bigfoot - Oregon is now on YouTube. Parts 1-3.
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20th June 2011, 01:32 PM	#313
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,755	Originally Posted by Drewbot No doubt! I saw so many dead coons, turtles and deer up there, but, alas, no sign of that Clare County Bigfoot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_U1...eature=related Look at 9:17, and tell me that doesn't look like the Xray You can link to the time... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_U1...ailpage#t=550s
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20th June 2011, 01:33 PM	#314
parnassus Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,565	Originally Posted by William Parcher Finding Bigfoot - Oregon is now on YouTube. Parts 1-3. Ike's Bar was one of the venues for this past weeks Oregon Sasquatch Symposium. http://webs.dudamobile.com/site/webs...etwork=fw#0023
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20th June 2011, 02:47 PM	#315
Wakeup Scholar Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 73	The problem with shows like 'Finding Bigfoot' is the high level of enthusiasm without the proper approach. Never have I seen the True Believers ask for other opinions or analysis. To conclude video imagery as genuine you must use reverse science and rule out all possibilities FIRST. There is a reason why they use the 100% sasquatch confirm so often, it's because NOTHING in any footage is descernible, Hence, there is no sasquatch, PERIOD!. Time has run out on Outrageous folklores like Bigfoot. The true believers in The Bigfoot myth will continune to see Giant 800 pound apes behind every tree in North America. MY theory is to debate what we know as Fact and conclusive such as Known tangible evidence and irrefutable data which amounts to absolutely Nothing after 5 decades and countless hours of searching. Where is the Proof ..???????? Bigfoot doesn't exist. But the American forest would be pretty boring without a good mystery and idiots who still believe.
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20th June 2011, 03:27 PM	#316
atpeace Guest Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 208	I am just now watching Fishing in Oregon and the very last time they show the whitewater video (before they get to the town meeting) it is much clearer and I easily see a white cap and a dark t-shirt and the persons naked arms below the sleeves. It is at 16:30 on my download. It is so obvious. Wonder why the other images were soo much blobbier?
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