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Mycroft · 18th July 2011, 09:05 PM

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A 59-year-old St. Louis man who formerly headed a state Ku Klux Klan chapter was sentenced to 20 years in prison Thursday for trying to arrange a sexual encounter with two undercover Henry County police officers masquerading as 14-year-old girls.

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Last June, Schmidt made arrangements to drive to a McDonough motel for a meeting with the girls. He was arrested in the parking lot carrying guns, Klan paraphernalia and sex toys, the U.S. attorney said.

Since his arrest in this case, Schmidt has been charged with molesting his granddaughter and with arranging a similar sexual encounter with an underage girl in Florida, according to prosecutors.

http://www.ajc.com/news/henry/ex-kla...=cmg_cntnt_rss

Grand Dragon of the KKK, pedophile, and he molested his own grand-kids. How far down on the evil scale can a man get?

Hallo Alfie · 18th July 2011, 09:22 PM

He was only trying to keep his bloodlines pure.

Sword_Of_Truth · 18th July 2011, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mycroft

Grand Dragon of the KKK, pedophile, and he molested his own grand-kids. How far down on the evil scale can a man get?

At least one more notch. There's still racist/neo-nazi, pedophile and murderer/attempted mass murderer

I'm glad they got this one before he started shooting.

PhantomWolf · 20th July 2011, 04:20 AM

I saw the title and thought, "Well, Duh!"

Susheel · 20th July 2011, 04:36 AM

i guess he is now going to get all the sex he doesn't want.

Monketey Ghost · 20th July 2011, 05:01 AM

To have this guy being a black man's TLA in prison is...

...it's... really something.

Hallo Alfie · 20th July 2011, 05:11 AM

TLA.....????

3point14 · 20th July 2011, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by A.A. Alfie

TLA.....????

True Love Always?

Hallo Alfie · 20th July 2011, 05:27 AM

Monketey Ghost · 20th July 2011, 05:33 AM

The lights are low, the setting is romantic.

*hugely muscled black prisoner points at new meat* "C'mere, you."

*racist pedo-rapist looks around nervously, there's nobody else on the block*

_{"You mean ...me?"}

Alferd_Packer · 20th July 2011, 05:38 AM

It's a nice fantasy, but probably won't happen.

I's sure the Aryan Brotherhood will stand up for him.

(or maybe not, with him being a "short eyes" and all)

Lamuella · 20th July 2011, 07:01 AM

I find it a little creepy how much people in this thread are enjoying the idea of prison rape.

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mycroft

http://www.ajc.com/news/henry/ex-kla...=cmg_cntnt_rss

Grand Dragon of the KKK, pedophile, and he molested his own grand-kids. How far down on the evil scale can a man get?

If I hear he kicked a cat, that'll be the last straw!

There isn't enough bad things that can happen to these toothless idiots. Really, there's not.

coalesce · 20th July 2011, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Lamuella

I find it a little creepy how much people in this thread are enjoying the idea of prison rape.

Do you feel he deserves better? What has he done to merit better treatment or even a modicum of sympathy?

And the best part is, had he done the right thing, none of this conjecture and apparently creepy glee would have happened. All he had to do was not try and have sex with underage girls and molest his granddaughter. It's not rocket surgery.

Michael

Monketey Ghost · 20th July 2011, 07:28 AM

It's not prison rape I find funny, it's the fact that he'll be the one having unwanted sexual encounters. With adults! Some of whom are black, the very people he hates!

Do you think the first guy coming after him he'll turn down... "Too old, too dark. Sorry, you're not my style."

Lamuella · 20th July 2011, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by coalesce

Do you feel he deserves better?

Yes, i think he deserves better than to be raped in prison. I'm not sure how this is a controversial stance.

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What has he done to merit better treatment or even a modicum of sympathy?

It's not a matter of what he's done. What he has done is enough to get him removed from society, put in a small box and forgotten about for many years.

The question is what gives us the right to, essentially, sentence someone to be sexually assaulted.

Prison rape is a disgusting thing. It's a horrifying display of savagery and brutality, and taking enjoyment in its occurrence is condoning it as an acceptable aspect of the justice system. I find that sick.

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And the best part is, had he done the right thing, none of this conjecture and apparently creepy glee would have happened. All he had to do was not try and have sex with underage girls and molest his granddaughter. It's not rocket surgery.

We all agree that what he did was wrong and should get him taken away from society. The largest part of what he did wrong was to commit (or plan to commit) sexual assault. If we all agree that the sexual assault he perpetrated was wrong, how can we cheer on the idea of him being sexually assaulted?

Prison rape is a horribly common, deeply disgusting thing. It sickens me to see people taking enjoyment out of it.

AvalonXQ · 20th July 2011, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by coalesce

Do you feel he deserves better?

Yes, absolutely he does.

Every person that we as a society choose to force in a confined space, needs to be protected from violent assault and other harm in that space.

Prisons need to be safe; when they're not, we've failed an obligation we have as a society.

When we come to accept as a culture that they are not safe, to the point where being illegally assaulted and harmed in prison is seen as part of the punishment, we have lost a fair bit of our moral compass as a society.

If you think this man deserves to be raped, then get it added to his criminal sentence. Until you do that, he deserves the same treatment and protections under the law as everyone else.

Lamuella · 20th July 2011, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost

It's not prison rape I find funny, it's the fact that he'll be the one having unwanted sexual encounters.

So it's not prison rape you find funny, it's the fact that he will be... raped in prison?

Can someone point out the distinction to me?

Rasmus · 20th July 2011, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by coalesce

Do you feel he deserves better?

Yes, I do.

There's this thing we call "human rights" - and there is a reason it is not called "nice people who we get along with just fine rights".

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What has he done to merit better treatment or even a modicum of sympathy?

He's been born. He deserves better treatment by virtue of being human. I'd rather not have that up to disposition by whoever happens to be in power, than k you very much.

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And the best part is, had he done the right thing, none of this conjecture and apparently creepy glee would have happened. All he had to do was not try and have sex with underage girls and molest his granddaughter. It's not rocket surgery.

Michael

Apparently the idea that punishment is decided by the courts rather than whoever happens to be in prison at the same time as you seems to be, though. At least a lot of people seem to find the concept hard to grasp.

headscratcher4 · 20th July 2011, 07:33 AM

Ok, creepy as it is, I understand bringing the "sex toys" but was he going to try an convince them to join the Klan after their little encounter? "Ah, thanks for all that great love'n you sweet young thing...hey, have you ever thought -- like after an encounter like this with someone's grandfather, about how blacks are mongralizing the nation and Jews are running everything? No? Well, maybe I could leave you with some information..."

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:35 AM

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It's not rocket surgery.

LOL
I say that all the time - Mystery, Alaska?

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:36 AM

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Yes, i think he deserves better than to be raped in prison.

So you're the one.

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The question is what gives us the right to, essentially, sentence someone to be sexually assaulted.

An eye for an eye. Plus the irony is priceless.

AvalonXQ · 20th July 2011, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

An eye for an eye.

Then write it into our laws and have the judge order it.

If you use the unsanctioned actions of a thug to carry out your idea of justice, that makes you a thug.

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:39 AM

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When we come to accept as a culture that they are not safe, to the point where being illegally assaulted and harmed in prison is seen as part of the punishment, we have lost a fair bit of our moral compass as a society.

This man is guilty of a great many evil acts. If I lose a bit of my moral compass taking enjoyment out of the circumstances he put himself in, so be it. I've lost a bit of the moral compass, but I won't break one sweat trying to find it.

WildCat · 20th July 2011, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer

It's a nice fantasy, but probably won't happen.

I's sure the Aryan Brotherhood will stand up for him.

(or maybe not, with him being a "short eyes" and all)

Maybe they will if he has money to pay them. Which is what John Gotti did when he was alive and in prison.

Otherwise, unless you're in the AB you're on your own.

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:40 AM

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So it's not prison rape you find funny, it's the fact that he will be... raped in prison?

Can someone point out the distinction to me?

Prison rape isn't generally funny, but if it happens to a child rapist, then yea it's funny.
If it happens to a person whose crime was stealing candy bars, not so much.

AvalonXQ · 20th July 2011, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

If I lose a bit of my moral compass taking enjoyment out of the circumstances he put himself in,

He didn't put himself in prison; we did.

Your endorsement of prison rape is disgusting.

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by AvalonXQ

Then write it into our laws and have the judge order it.

If you use the unsanctioned actions of a thug to carry out your idea of justice, that makes you a thug.

okee doke.

jiggeryqua · 20th July 2011, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

So you're the one.

Two. (More, really, I haven't been counting)

Originally Posted by NoahFence

An eye for an eye. Plus the irony is priceless.

Any more Old Testament wisdom to share with us? An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Lamuella · 20th July 2011, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

So you're the one.

no, there's more than one of us who think he deserves better than that.

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An eye for an eye. Plus the irony is priceless.

As Martin Luther king said, "The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind"

(and yes, it feels weird to use MLK when talking about the fate of a klansman)

There seems to be a body of thought that a crime isn't a crime if it happens to a prisoner, that anyone who is in prison deserves whatever is done to them in there, no matter who does it.

What makes this really weird is the fact that for this to be enjoyed you're not just enjoying and condoning the idea of a paedophile klansman being raped. You're enjoying and condoning the idea of someone committing rape and getting away with it.

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:43 AM

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He didn't put himself in prison; we did.

I'm sorry? Did he not commit crimes?

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Your endorsement of prison rape is disgusting.

As is your support of a child rapist.

coalesce · 20th July 2011, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Lamuella

The question is what gives us the right to, essentially, sentence someone to be sexually assaulted.

Conversely, what did his granddaughter do to be sentenced by her grandfather to sexual assault? What gave HIM the right to sexually assault her? Where were HER human rights? Where was HIS moral compass?

All he had to do was behave like a normal human being and not go around trying to sexually assault underage girls and he wouldn't be facing this conundrum of his human rights being violated. I have zero sympathy for whatever happens to him in prison and his fate is one that certainly would not want to share. And you know how I'll accomplish that? By not assaulting underage girls. By thinking of other people's rights and such...you know, behaving like a normal human being. I don't need Werner von Braun to draw me a diagram of how to do this.

Michael

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:44 AM

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Any more Old Testament wisdom to share with us? An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

I'm more inclined to enjoy the irony, truth be told. Forgive me if I don't shed a tear for someone like this. Being in the KKK is enough - but child raping?

AvalonXQ · 20th July 2011, 07:45 AM

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As is your support of a child rapist.

While I may support the rights of people, even rapists, I never support rape.

You do.
That's right, you support and endorse one person raping another. It makes you happy.

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:45 AM

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that anyone who is in prison deserves whatever is done to them in there, no matter who does it.

Depends on what got them there.

Lamuella · 20th July 2011, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

As is your support of a child rapist.

how is saying "this person should not be raped" supporting a child rapist?

If anyone's supporting a rapist in this scenario, it's you, cheering on whoever it is who rapes the klansman.

NoahFence · 20th July 2011, 07:47 AM

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You do.
That's right, you support and endorse one person raping another. It makes you happy.

In THIS case? A child rapist KKK member hypothetically getting raped by a big 'ol black dude?

You're damn right.

AvalonXQ · 20th July 2011, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by coalesce

All he had to do was behave like a normal human being and not go around trying to sexually assault underage girls and he wouldn't be facing this conundrum of his human rights being violated.

I'm glad you believe that each individual gets to decide whether or not a person "deserves" to be raped -- that we don't need a justice process to decide which behaviors are appropriate and which are not.

Forgive me if I don't share your view that prisoners forgo their right to be treated humanely, or to have their punishments dictated by the law rather than by rapist thugs.

headscratcher4 · 20th July 2011, 07:49 AM

Three.

Rape is rape. It is a crime of violence. Creepy criminals convicted and sentenced to jail should serve their time without the threat of violence -- especially this sort of look-the-other-way unofficially state sanctioned violence.

I've no sympathy for the old creep. But the old creep should no more be raped than be raping. Wrong, violent and horrible outside of prison is still wrong, violent and horrible inside of prison -- the irony of the situation not withstanding.

I hoped as a society we are better than that. I'm saddened that we are not. The relative truth behind the "inevitability" of the likely prision rape comments are compounded by their basic, crass cruelty. If the state sanction for his crime is not enough...in terms of years, prison conditions and regime, or even punishment (i.e. say, the death penalty), than change the law. But what happens in prision should only be state sanctioned punishment. The rest is cruel, unusual and an admission that our socieity has failed.

Lamuella · 20th July 2011, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by coalesce

Conversely, what did his granddaughter do to be sentenced by her grandfather to sexual assault?

Nothing. He deserves to go to jail for what he did.

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What gave HIM the right to sexually assault her?

Nothing. He deserves to go to jail for what he did.

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Where were HER human rights? Where was HIS moral compass?

All good points. He deserves to go to jail for what he did.

There's a difference between "he deserves to go to jail" and "he deserves to be raped in jail".

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All he had to do was behave like a normal human being and not go around trying to sexually assault underage girls and he wouldn't be facing this conundrum of his human rights being violated. I have zero sympathy for whatever happens to him in prison and his fate is one that certainly would not want to share. And you know how I'll accomplish that? By not assaulting underage girls. By thinking of other people's rights and such...you know, behaving like a normal human being. I don't need Werner von Braun to draw me a diagram of how to do this.

so you're absolutely fine not just with anyone who gets sent to jail being raped but with anyone who gets sent to jail committing rape?

18th July 2011, 09:05 PM	#1
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16,149	Atlanta Klansman not as clever as he thought Quote: A 59-year-old St. Louis man who formerly headed a state Ku Klux Klan chapter was sentenced to 20 years in prison Thursday for trying to arrange a sexual encounter with two undercover Henry County police officers masquerading as 14-year-old girls. <snip> Last June, Schmidt made arrangements to drive to a McDonough motel for a meeting with the girls. He was arrested in the parking lot carrying guns, Klan paraphernalia and sex toys, the U.S. attorney said. Since his arrest in this case, Schmidt has been charged with molesting his granddaughter and with arranging a similar sexual encounter with an underage girl in Florida, according to prosecutors. http://www.ajc.com/news/henry/ex-kla...=cmg_cntnt_rss Grand Dragon of the KKK, pedophile, and he molested his own grand-kids. How far down on the evil scale can a man get?
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20th July 2011, 04:20 AM	#4
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20th July 2011, 04:36 AM	#5
Susheel Muse Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 599	i guess he is now going to get all the sex he doesn't want.
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20th July 2011, 05:01 AM	#6
Monketey Ghost Body of Work Join Date: May 2003 Location: I'm on your screen! Posts: 14,812	To have this guy being a black man's TLA in prison is... ...it's... really something.
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20th July 2011, 05:20 AM	#8
3point14 Pi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London ish Posts: 3,703	Originally Posted by A.A. Alfie TLA.....???? True Love Always?
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18th July 2011, 09:22 PM	#2
Hallo Alfie Suspended Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 10,113	He was only trying to keep his bloodlines pure.

18th July 2011, 09:28 PM	#3
Sword_Of_Truth Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,497	Originally Posted by Mycroft Grand Dragon of the KKK, pedophile, and he molested his own grand-kids. How far down on the evil scale can a man get? At least one more notch. There's still racist/neo-nazi, pedophile and murderer/attempted mass murderer I'm glad they got this one before he started shooting.

20th July 2011, 05:11 AM	#7
Hallo Alfie Suspended Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 10,113	TLA.....????

20th July 2011, 05:27 AM	#9
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20th July 2011, 05:33 AM	#10
Monketey Ghost Body of Work Join Date: May 2003 Location: I'm on your screen! Posts: 14,812	The lights are low, the setting is romantic. hugely muscled black prisoner points at new meat "C'mere, you." racist pedo-rapist looks around nervously, there's nobody else on the block _{"You mean ...me?"}
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20th July 2011, 05:38 AM	#11
Alferd_Packer Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,279	It's a nice fantasy, but probably won't happen. I's sure the Aryan Brotherhood will stand up for him. (or maybe not, with him being a "short eyes" and all)
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20th July 2011, 07:01 AM	#12
Lamuella Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,480	I find it a little creepy how much people in this thread are enjoying the idea of prison rape.
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20th July 2011, 07:03 AM	#13
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Originally Posted by Mycroft http://www.ajc.com/news/henry/ex-kla...=cmg_cntnt_rss Grand Dragon of the KKK, pedophile, and he molested his own grand-kids. How far down on the evil scale can a man get? If I hear he kicked a cat, that'll be the last straw! There isn't enough bad things that can happen to these toothless idiots. Really, there's not.
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20th July 2011, 07:24 AM	#14
coalesce Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 3,387	Originally Posted by Lamuella I find it a little creepy how much people in this thread are enjoying the idea of prison rape. Do you feel he deserves better? What has he done to merit better treatment or even a modicum of sympathy? And the best part is, had he done the right thing, none of this conjecture and apparently creepy glee would have happened. All he had to do was not try and have sex with underage girls and molest his granddaughter. It's not rocket surgery. Michael
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20th July 2011, 07:28 AM	#15
Monketey Ghost Body of Work Join Date: May 2003 Location: I'm on your screen! Posts: 14,812	It's not prison rape I find funny, it's the fact that he'll be the one having unwanted sexual encounters. With adults! Some of whom are black, the very people he hates! Do you think the first guy coming after him he'll turn down... "Too old, too dark. Sorry, you're not my style."
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20th July 2011, 07:31 AM	#16
Lamuella Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,480	Originally Posted by coalesce Do you feel he deserves better? Yes, i think he deserves better than to be raped in prison. I'm not sure how this is a controversial stance. Quote: What has he done to merit better treatment or even a modicum of sympathy? It's not a matter of what he's done. What he has done is enough to get him removed from society, put in a small box and forgotten about for many years. The question is what gives us the right to, essentially, sentence someone to be sexually assaulted. Prison rape is a disgusting thing. It's a horrifying display of savagery and brutality, and taking enjoyment in its occurrence is condoning it as an acceptable aspect of the justice system. I find that sick. Quote: And the best part is, had he done the right thing, none of this conjecture and apparently creepy glee would have happened. All he had to do was not try and have sex with underage girls and molest his granddaughter. It's not rocket surgery. We all agree that what he did was wrong and should get him taken away from society. The largest part of what he did wrong was to commit (or plan to commit) sexual assault. If we all agree that the sexual assault he perpetrated was wrong, how can we cheer on the idea of him being sexually assaulted? Prison rape is a horribly common, deeply disgusting thing. It sickens me to see people taking enjoyment out of it.
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20th July 2011, 07:31 AM	#17
AvalonXQ Guest Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,853	Originally Posted by coalesce Do you feel he deserves better? Yes, absolutely he does. Every person that we as a society choose to force in a confined space, needs to be protected from violent assault and other harm in that space. Prisons need to be safe; when they're not, we've failed an obligation we have as a society. When we come to accept as a culture that they are not safe, to the point where being illegally assaulted and harmed in prison is seen as part of the punishment, we have lost a fair bit of our moral compass as a society. If you think this man deserves to be raped, then get it added to his criminal sentence. Until you do that, he deserves the same treatment and protections under the law as everyone else.
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20th July 2011, 07:32 AM	#18
Lamuella Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,480	Originally Posted by Monketey Ghost It's not prison rape I find funny, it's the fact that he'll be the one having unwanted sexual encounters. So it's not prison rape you find funny, it's the fact that he will be... raped in prison? Can someone point out the distinction to me?
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20th July 2011, 07:33 AM	#19
Rasmus Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,139	Originally Posted by coalesce Do you feel he deserves better? Yes, I do. There's this thing we call "human rights" - and there is a reason it is not called "nice people who we get along with just fine rights". Quote: What has he done to merit better treatment or even a modicum of sympathy? He's been born. He deserves better treatment by virtue of being human. I'd rather not have that up to disposition by whoever happens to be in power, than k you very much. Quote: And the best part is, had he done the right thing, none of this conjecture and apparently creepy glee would have happened. All he had to do was not try and have sex with underage girls and molest his granddaughter. It's not rocket surgery. Michael Apparently the idea that punishment is decided by the courts rather than whoever happens to be in prison at the same time as you seems to be, though. At least a lot of people seem to find the concept hard to grasp.
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20th July 2011, 07:33 AM	#20
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,759	Ok, creepy as it is, I understand bringing the "sex toys" but was he going to try an convince them to join the Klan after their little encounter? "Ah, thanks for all that great love'n you sweet young thing...hey, have you ever thought -- like after an encounter like this with someone's grandfather, about how blacks are mongralizing the nation and Jews are running everything? No? Well, maybe I could leave you with some information..."
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20th July 2011, 07:35 AM	#21
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Quote: It's not rocket surgery. LOL I say that all the time - Mystery, Alaska?
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20th July 2011, 07:36 AM	#22
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Quote: Yes, i think he deserves better than to be raped in prison. So you're the one. Quote: The question is what gives us the right to, essentially, sentence someone to be sexually assaulted. An eye for an eye. Plus the irony is priceless.
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20th July 2011, 07:38 AM	#23
AvalonXQ Guest Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,853	Originally Posted by NoahFence An eye for an eye. Then write it into our laws and have the judge order it. If you use the unsanctioned actions of a thug to carry out your idea of justice, that makes you a thug.
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20th July 2011, 07:39 AM	#24
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Quote: When we come to accept as a culture that they are not safe, to the point where being illegally assaulted and harmed in prison is seen as part of the punishment, we have lost a fair bit of our moral compass as a society. This man is guilty of a great many evil acts. If I lose a bit of my moral compass taking enjoyment out of the circumstances he put himself in, so be it. I've lost a bit of the moral compass, but I won't break one sweat trying to find it.
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20th July 2011, 07:40 AM	#25
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,450	Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer It's a nice fantasy, but probably won't happen. I's sure the Aryan Brotherhood will stand up for him. (or maybe not, with him being a "short eyes" and all) Maybe they will if he has money to pay them. Which is what John Gotti did when he was alive and in prison. Otherwise, unless you're in the AB you're on your own.

20th July 2011, 07:40 AM	#26
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Quote: So it's not prison rape you find funny, it's the fact that he will be... raped in prison? Can someone point out the distinction to me? Prison rape isn't generally funny, but if it happens to a child rapist, then yea it's funny. If it happens to a person whose crime was stealing candy bars, not so much.
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20th July 2011, 07:40 AM	#27
AvalonXQ Guest Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,853	Originally Posted by NoahFence If I lose a bit of my moral compass taking enjoyment out of the circumstances he put himself in, He didn't put himself in prison; we did. Your endorsement of prison rape is disgusting.
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20th July 2011, 07:41 AM	#28
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Originally Posted by AvalonXQ Then write it into our laws and have the judge order it. If you use the unsanctioned actions of a thug to carry out your idea of justice, that makes you a thug. okee doke.
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20th July 2011, 07:42 AM	#29
jiggeryqua Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,975	Originally Posted by NoahFence So you're the one. Two. (More, really, I haven't been counting) Originally Posted by NoahFence An eye for an eye. Plus the irony is priceless. Any more Old Testament wisdom to share with us? An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

20th July 2011, 07:43 AM	#31
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Quote: He didn't put himself in prison; we did. I'm sorry? Did he not commit crimes? Quote: Your endorsement of prison rape is disgusting. As is your support of a child rapist.
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20th July 2011, 07:44 AM	#32
coalesce Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 3,387	Originally Posted by Lamuella The question is what gives us the right to, essentially, sentence someone to be sexually assaulted. Conversely, what did his granddaughter do to be sentenced by her grandfather to sexual assault? What gave HIM the right to sexually assault her? Where were HER human rights? Where was HIS moral compass? All he had to do was behave like a normal human being and not go around trying to sexually assault underage girls and he wouldn't be facing this conundrum of his human rights being violated. I have zero sympathy for whatever happens to him in prison and his fate is one that certainly would not want to share. And you know how I'll accomplish that? By not assaulting underage girls. By thinking of other people's rights and such...you know, behaving like a normal human being. I don't need Werner von Braun to draw me a diagram of how to do this. Michael
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20th July 2011, 07:44 AM	#33
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Quote: Any more Old Testament wisdom to share with us? An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. I'm more inclined to enjoy the irony, truth be told. Forgive me if I don't shed a tear for someone like this. Being in the KKK is enough - but child raping?
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20th July 2011, 07:45 AM	#34
AvalonXQ Guest Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,853	Quote: As is your support of a child rapist. While I may support the rights of people, even rapists, I never support rape. You do. That's right, you support and endorse one person raping another. It makes you happy.
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20th July 2011, 07:45 AM	#35
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,417	Quote: that anyone who is in prison deserves whatever is done to them in there, no matter who does it. Depends on what got them there.
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20th July 2011, 07:47 AM	#36
Lamuella Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,480	Originally Posted by NoahFence As is your support of a child rapist. how is saying "this person should not be raped" supporting a child rapist? If anyone's supporting a rapist in this scenario, it's you, cheering on whoever it is who rapes the klansman.
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