Why God is God Alone, and No One Else

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 08:25 PM

Is it possible for people to agree there is one God?

Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is
far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God
does no come here and that we can not know His name?

Would the world be a better place if we could?

Mudcat · 5th August 2011, 08:29 PM

I for one think it's a far better idea to agree to disagree and learn to live with one and another, because in the end people are going to believe what they wanna believe regardless of any facts put in front of them.

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dafydd · 5th August 2011, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

Is it possible for people to agree there is one God?

Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is
far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God
does no come here and that we can not know His name?

Would the world be a better place if we could?

Is it possible for people to agree that there is no god?

Mudcat · 5th August 2011, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Is it possible for people to agree that there is no god?

Not at this time I guess. As a race we haven't mature pass the point of Linus and his security blanket I guess.

slingblade · 5th August 2011, 08:39 PM

I've no need to imagine gods. I can't understand why anyone needs to.

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is
far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God
does no come here and that we can not know His name?

Then what good would it be, if it did exist? What you describe is exactly the same as no god at all.
So, why bother?

DC · 5th August 2011, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

Is it possible for people to agree there is one God?

Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is
far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God
does no come here and that we can not know His name?

Would the world be a better place if we could?

no, no, no and no

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

I for one think it's a far better idea to agree to disagree and learn to live with one and another, because in the end people are going to believe what they wanna believe regardless of any facts put in front of them.

Right, learning to live with each other.
I imagine it would be easier to get along if we all could agree to say, "Gods by name are, by definition, gods of this world. You can have the god of your choice and name him whatever you want."
For example, people A, over here with god 55, and people B, over there with god 65. If A says that 55 is god over 65 because 55 is the true god, by agreement B could counter, "No, because we understand the true God is not named."
People A could come back with, "But 55 is really great."
Everyone else in the world could say, "That's nice and worship 55 all you want, amongst yourself. B has a god already, that they think is pretty good too.

Wowbagger · 5th August 2011, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

Would the world be a better place if we could?

I think the world is a better place when people are free to believe or not believe whatever they want about any gods, as long as they are not hurting anyone.

Without that freedom, pointless wars tend to crop up.

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Is it possible for people to agree that there is no god?

I think that would be more difficult.

RandFan · 5th August 2011, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

Is it possible for people to agree there is one God?

If wr can agree that there is only one magical unicorn. Sure. Why not?

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Wowbagger

I think the world is a better place when people are free to believe or not believe whatever they want about any gods, as long as they are not hurting anyone.
Without that freedom, pointless wars tend to crop up.

People do hurt other people over gods all the time.
Backing off on a claim for ownership of the world by one particular god would seem to be an improvement.
It would have to be an agreement that is voluntarily arrived at, otherwise it defeats the purpose.

Mudcat · 5th August 2011, 08:57 PM

Ethnikos I am a living breathing human being and if you are going to quote me have the decency to not quote me out of context. I'm right with the other posters that say that it would be far better if everyone could wrap their minds around the fact that are no gods.

But there will always be people who believe what they want, regardless of what evidence is put before them.

DC · 5th August 2011, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by RandFan

If wr can agree that there is only one magical unicorn. Sure. Why not?

now that is just silly, we all know magical unicorns are herd animals.

RandFan · 5th August 2011, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

I think that would be more difficult.

Is it possible for educate skeptics who have learned critical thinking and are capable of rational and objective analysis of emperical evidence?

RandFan · 5th August 2011, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by DC

now that is just silly, we all know magical unicorns are herd animals.

Damn.

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dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Not at this time I guess. As a race we haven't mature pass the point of Linus and his security blanket I guess.

I wasn't really being serious,it was a vain attempt to show ethnikos just how vapid his question was.

Mudcat · 5th August 2011, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

I wasn't really being serious,it was a vain attempt to show ethnikos just how vapid his question was.

Ah, sorry. That was my bad.

dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

People do hurt other people over gods all the time.
Backing off on a claim for ownership of the world by one particular god would seem to be an improvement.
It would have to be an agreement that is voluntarily arrived at, otherwise it defeats the purpose.

You are over estimating the importance of gods The only time that I ever come across the word god is here. Nobody I know is interested in it.

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by slingblade

I've no need to imagine gods. I can't understand why anyone needs to.
Then what good would it be, if it did exist? What you describe is exactly the same as no god at all.
So, why bother?

Some people are happy with no god and others are happy with an unnamed entity that may not even reside inside this universe. Some people are happy with a god who is not even a person.
People who need a picture of a god or story books about this god, can keep their icons as long as they don't try to conquer the world for this iconic god, which is obviously a product of their imagination.

The new Conan movie is coming out with this barbarian of the god, Crom. Should he tell the world that it belongs to Crom. He could do that if he is prepared to kill everyone in the world.

dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Ah, sorry. That was my bad.

No apology needed.

Mudcat · 5th August 2011, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

The new Conan movie is coming out with this barbarian of the god, Crom. Should he tell the world that it belongs to Crom. He could do that if he is prepared to kill everyone in the world.

In fantasy there is usually abundant evidence to support the existence of one or more gods, in reality there is usually zero evidence to support the existence of one or more gods. Why is this difficult for people to grasp?

bikerdruid · 5th August 2011, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

Is it possible for people to agree there is one God?

no.
the more the merrier.
the hindus have thousands.
i honour several.

DC · 5th August 2011, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by RandFan

Damn.

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Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

You are over estimating the importance of gods The only time that I ever come across the word god is here. Nobody I know is interested in it.

I think it would be worthwhile to find out. Have everyone take a poll.

Would you like it if no god of any religion will have any earthly representative attempt to take the world on behalf of that god?

Would you like it if the supreme God, creator of the Universe was content in that He already owns everything and has no use for conquest in His name?

Mudcat · 5th August 2011, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

I think it would be worthwhile to find out. Have everyone take a poll.

Would you like it if no god of any religion will have any earthly representative attempt to take the world on behalf of that god?

Would you like it if the supreme God, creator of the Universe was content in that He already owns everything and has no use for conquest in His name?

No, just no. Polls aren't exactly scientific.

DC · 5th August 2011, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

I think it would be worthwhile to find out. Have everyone take a poll.

Would you like it if no god of any religion will have any earthly representative attempt to take the world on behalf of that god?

Would you like it if the supreme God, creator of the Universe was content in that He already owns everything and has no use for conquest in His name?

Cthulhu?

dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

I think it would be worthwhile to find out. Have everyone take a poll.

Would you like it if no god of any religion will have any earthly representative attempt to take the world on behalf of that god?

Would you like it if the supreme God, creator of the Universe was content in that He already owns everything and has no use for conquest in His name?

You left out one,namely God does not exist.

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mudcat

In fantasy there is usually abundant evidence to support the existence of one or more gods, in reality there is usually zero evidence to support the existence of one or more gods. Why is this difficult for people to grasp?

Embrace the zero evidence god.
A much more people friendly sort of God.
Conan is not such a good analogy because he was no a zealot bu just recognized it was what his tribe said God was and the name stuck with him.
Like people who say, Jesus! but not in a worshipful way.
But Conan was ready to take the world and would have for Crom, if he needed a god to do it in the name of.

dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by bikerdruid

no.
the more the merrier.
the hindus have thousands.
i honour several.

Do they work shifts?

dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

Embrace the zero evidence god.
A much more people friendly sort of God.
Conan is not such a good analogy because he was no a zealot bu just recognized it was what his tribe said God was and the name stuck with him.
Like people who say, Jesus! but not in a worshipful way.
But Conan was ready to take the world and would have for Crom, if he needed a god to do it in the name of.

What is the point of this?

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

You left out one,namely God does not exist.

Oop, yes, that should be there too.

DC · 5th August 2011, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Do they work shifts?

not existing is not really work

bikerdruid · 5th August 2011, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Do they work shifts?

nope.
no shifty gods for me.

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

What is the point of this?

The rest of the world, having come to an agreement concerning God, would join together to tell Conan, "The true God, by agreement has no name, so your god has no legitimate claim to the world. We decided that the world was created by and still owned by the One who created the Universe."

DC · 5th August 2011, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

The rest of the world, having come to an agreement concerning God, would join together to tell Conan, "The true God, by agreement has no name, so your god has no legitimate claim to the world. We decided that the world was created by and still owned by the One who created the Universe."

there is no evidence anyone has created the universe. Why would we agree on nonsense.

dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ethnikos

The rest of the world, having come to an agreement concerning God, would join together to tell Conan, "The true God, by agreement has no name, so your god has no legitimate claim to the world. We decided that the world was created by and still owned by the One who created the Universe."

You'll never get 'the world' to agree to anything. Who is Conan? Conan The Barbarian?

dafydd · 5th August 2011, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by DC

there is no evidence anyone has created the universe. Why would we agree on nonsense.

We could get the world to agree that there are no leprechauns too.

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by RandFan

Is it possible for educate skeptics who have learned critical thinking and are capable of rational and objective analysis of emperical evidence?

They may be the minority. The majority have at least a vague concept of a god out there, somewhere.
I'm not saying create a new theology but put a limit on what is being done by religionists of the world in the name of whatever.
All the people with a fuzzy god concept, unite in favor of adoption of that god as the official world God, for political purposes, not for actual worship because the fuzzy God needs no worship.

RobDegraves · 5th August 2011, 09:33 PM

Or... we could do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZkWChXUSMk

Ethnikos · 5th August 2011, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

You'll never get 'the world' to agree to anything. Who is Conan? Conan The Barbarian?

Yes. I just thought of that because of all the adds I have seen popping up lately.

5th August 2011, 08:25 PM	#1
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Why God is God Alone, and No One Else Is it possible for people to agree there is one God? Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God does no come here and that we can not know His name? Would the world be a better place if we could?
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5th August 2011, 08:29 PM	#2
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,687	I for one think it's a far better idea to agree to disagree and learn to live with one and another, because in the end people are going to believe what they wanna believe regardless of any facts put in front of them. [/thread]
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5th August 2011, 08:39 PM	#4
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,687	Originally Posted by dafydd Is it possible for people to agree that there is no god? Not at this time I guess. As a race we haven't mature pass the point of Linus and his security blanket I guess.
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5th August 2011, 08:39 PM	#5
slingblade Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,642	I've no need to imagine gods. I can't understand why anyone needs to. Originally Posted by Ethnikos Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God does no come here and that we can not know His name? Then what good would it be, if it did exist? What you describe is exactly the same as no god at all. So, why bother?
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5th August 2011, 08:47 PM	#6
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,675	Originally Posted by Ethnikos Is it possible for people to agree there is one God? Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God does no come here and that we can not know His name? Would the world be a better place if we could? no, no, no and no
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5th August 2011, 08:35 PM	#3
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Ethnikos Is it possible for people to agree there is one God? Can people give up partisanship enough to agree that God is far away somewhere, in a place we can not go, and that God does no come here and that we can not know His name? Would the world be a better place if we could? Is it possible for people to agree that there is no god?

5th August 2011, 08:51 PM	#7
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by Mudcat I for one think it's a far better idea to agree to disagree and learn to live with one and another, because in the end people are going to believe what they wanna believe regardless of any facts put in front of them. Right, learning to live with each other. I imagine it would be easier to get along if we all could agree to say, "Gods by name are, by definition, gods of this world. You can have the god of your choice and name him whatever you want." For example, people A, over here with god 55, and people B, over there with god 65. If A says that 55 is god over 65 because 55 is the true god, by agreement B could counter, "No, because we understand the true God is not named." People A could come back with, "But 55 is really great." Everyone else in the world could say, "That's nice and worship 55 all you want, amongst yourself. B has a god already, that they think is pretty good too.
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5th August 2011, 08:52 PM	#8
Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westchester County, NY (when not in space) Posts: 13,538	Originally Posted by Ethnikos Would the world be a better place if we could? I think the world is a better place when people are free to believe or not believe whatever they want about any gods, as long as they are not hurting anyone. Without that freedom, pointless wars tend to crop up.
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5th August 2011, 08:53 PM	#9
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by dafydd Is it possible for people to agree that there is no god? I think that would be more difficult.
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5th August 2011, 08:56 PM	#10
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,430	Originally Posted by Ethnikos Is it possible for people to agree there is one God? If wr can agree that there is only one magical unicorn. Sure. Why not?
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5th August 2011, 08:56 PM	#11
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by Wowbagger I think the world is a better place when people are free to believe or not believe whatever they want about any gods, as long as they are not hurting anyone. Without that freedom, pointless wars tend to crop up. People do hurt other people over gods all the time. Backing off on a claim for ownership of the world by one particular god would seem to be an improvement. It would have to be an agreement that is voluntarily arrived at, otherwise it defeats the purpose.
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5th August 2011, 08:57 PM	#12
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,687	Ethnikos I am a living breathing human being and if you are going to quote me have the decency to not quote me out of context. I'm right with the other posters that say that it would be far better if everyone could wrap their minds around the fact that are no gods. But there will always be people who believe what they want, regardless of what evidence is put before them.
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5th August 2011, 08:57 PM	#13
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,675	Originally Posted by RandFan If wr can agree that there is only one magical unicorn. Sure. Why not? now that is just silly, we all know magical unicorns are herd animals.
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5th August 2011, 08:58 PM	#14
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,430	Originally Posted by Ethnikos I think that would be more difficult. Is it possible for educate skeptics who have learned critical thinking and are capable of rational and objective analysis of emperical evidence?
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5th August 2011, 09:00 PM	#16
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Mudcat Not at this time I guess. As a race we haven't mature pass the point of Linus and his security blanket I guess. I wasn't really being serious,it was a vain attempt to show ethnikos just how vapid his question was.

5th August 2011, 09:02 PM	#17
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,687	Originally Posted by dafydd I wasn't really being serious,it was a vain attempt to show ethnikos just how vapid his question was. Ah, sorry. That was my bad.
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5th August 2011, 09:03 PM	#18
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Ethnikos People do hurt other people over gods all the time. Backing off on a claim for ownership of the world by one particular god would seem to be an improvement. It would have to be an agreement that is voluntarily arrived at, otherwise it defeats the purpose. You are over estimating the importance of gods The only time that I ever come across the word god is here. Nobody I know is interested in it.

5th August 2011, 09:03 PM	#19
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by slingblade I've no need to imagine gods. I can't understand why anyone needs to. Then what good would it be, if it did exist? What you describe is exactly the same as no god at all. So, why bother? Some people are happy with no god and others are happy with an unnamed entity that may not even reside inside this universe. Some people are happy with a god who is not even a person. People who need a picture of a god or story books about this god, can keep their icons as long as they don't try to conquer the world for this iconic god, which is obviously a product of their imagination. The new Conan movie is coming out with this barbarian of the god, Crom. Should he tell the world that it belongs to Crom. He could do that if he is prepared to kill everyone in the world.
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5th August 2011, 09:04 PM	#20
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Mudcat Ah, sorry. That was my bad. No apology needed.

5th August 2011, 09:06 PM	#21
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,687	Originally Posted by Ethnikos The new Conan movie is coming out with this barbarian of the god, Crom. Should he tell the world that it belongs to Crom. He could do that if he is prepared to kill everyone in the world. In fantasy there is usually abundant evidence to support the existence of one or more gods, in reality there is usually zero evidence to support the existence of one or more gods. Why is this difficult for people to grasp?
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5th August 2011, 09:08 PM	#22
bikerdruid hermit hippy weirdo Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: green island autonomous zone Posts: 7,369	Originally Posted by Ethnikos Is it possible for people to agree there is one God? no. the more the merrier. the hindus have thousands. i honour several.
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5th August 2011, 09:10 PM	#24
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by dafydd You are over estimating the importance of gods The only time that I ever come across the word god is here. Nobody I know is interested in it. I think it would be worthwhile to find out. Have everyone take a poll. Would you like it if no god of any religion will have any earthly representative attempt to take the world on behalf of that god? Would you like it if the supreme God, creator of the Universe was content in that He already owns everything and has no use for conquest in His name?
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5th August 2011, 09:13 PM	#25
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,687	Originally Posted by Ethnikos I think it would be worthwhile to find out. Have everyone take a poll. Would you like it if no god of any religion will have any earthly representative attempt to take the world on behalf of that god? Would you like it if the supreme God, creator of the Universe was content in that He already owns everything and has no use for conquest in His name? No, just no. Polls aren't exactly scientific.
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5th August 2011, 09:17 PM	#27
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Ethnikos I think it would be worthwhile to find out. Have everyone take a poll. Would you like it if no god of any religion will have any earthly representative attempt to take the world on behalf of that god? Would you like it if the supreme God, creator of the Universe was content in that He already owns everything and has no use for conquest in His name? You left out one,namely God does not exist.

5th August 2011, 09:18 PM	#28
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by Mudcat In fantasy there is usually abundant evidence to support the existence of one or more gods, in reality there is usually zero evidence to support the existence of one or more gods. Why is this difficult for people to grasp? Embrace the zero evidence god. A much more people friendly sort of God. Conan is not such a good analogy because he was no a zealot bu just recognized it was what his tribe said God was and the name stuck with him. Like people who say, Jesus! but not in a worshipful way. But Conan was ready to take the world and would have for Crom, if he needed a god to do it in the name of.
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5th August 2011, 09:18 PM	#29
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by bikerdruid no. the more the merrier. the hindus have thousands. i honour several. Do they work shifts?

5th August 2011, 09:19 PM	#30
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Ethnikos Embrace the zero evidence god. A much more people friendly sort of God. Conan is not such a good analogy because he was no a zealot bu just recognized it was what his tribe said God was and the name stuck with him. Like people who say, Jesus! but not in a worshipful way. But Conan was ready to take the world and would have for Crom, if he needed a god to do it in the name of. What is the point of this?

5th August 2011, 09:19 PM	#31
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by dafydd You left out one,namely God does not exist. Oop, yes, that should be there too.
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5th August 2011, 09:19 PM	#32
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,675	Originally Posted by dafydd Do they work shifts? not existing is not really work
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5th August 2011, 09:21 PM	#33
bikerdruid hermit hippy weirdo Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: green island autonomous zone Posts: 7,369	Originally Posted by dafydd Do they work shifts? nope. no shifty gods for me.
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5th August 2011, 09:24 PM	#34
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by dafydd What is the point of this? The rest of the world, having come to an agreement concerning God, would join together to tell Conan, "The true God, by agreement has no name, so your god has no legitimate claim to the world. We decided that the world was created by and still owned by the One who created the Universe."
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5th August 2011, 09:26 PM	#35
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,675	Originally Posted by Ethnikos The rest of the world, having come to an agreement concerning God, would join together to tell Conan, "The true God, by agreement has no name, so your god has no legitimate claim to the world. We decided that the world was created by and still owned by the One who created the Universe." there is no evidence anyone has created the universe. Why would we agree on nonsense.
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5th August 2011, 09:28 PM	#37
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by DC there is no evidence anyone has created the universe. Why would we agree on nonsense. We could get the world to agree that there are no leprechauns too.

5th August 2011, 09:32 PM	#38
Ethnikos Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,473	Originally Posted by RandFan Is it possible for educate skeptics who have learned critical thinking and are capable of rational and objective analysis of emperical evidence? They may be the minority. The majority have at least a vague concept of a god out there, somewhere. I'm not saying create a new theology but put a limit on what is being done by religionists of the world in the name of whatever. All the people with a fuzzy god concept, unite in favor of adoption of that god as the official world God, for political purposes, not for actual worship because the fuzzy God needs no worship.
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5th August 2011, 09:33 PM	#39
RobDegraves Muse Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 787	Or... we could do this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZkWChXUSMk
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