"Remember Building 7" - "Largest 9/11 Campaign Ever" - Page 5

DGM · 19th November 2011, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Macgyver1968

So where's that Final Report? It's been more than 2 months.

Have you sent in your $39.95 USD (plus S&H)?

Buy wait.........................for a limited time you will also receive the limited edition DVD box set absolutely free! (a $60 value). (Just add shipping and handling).

Orphia Nay · 19th November 2011, 08:50 PM

Ted Walter of NYCCAN / Building What / Remember Building 7 / Occupy Building 7 was on a truthy radio show talking about those organisations a few days ago.

The mp3 is here:

http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett...th-ted-walter/

Funnily, the interviewer didn't press him on where the money they've raised will go. Walter said they'd raised about $100,000 and that a million would make people talk about Building 7. And that was pretty much it.

Still no reply from Badillo or anyone on Facebook.

Oystein · 24th November 2011, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.D

Came and went. Any updates on their filing?

They filed on november 14th - or at least Form 990, which is currently being passed around in private (see here), was signed that day. It's not yet on Guidestar, though. Not sure if and when it will go there. Probably after the IRS handled the form, which might take a fortnight.

Per the end of fiscal year 2010 they list US$ 66,461 as "BUILDING WHAT LIABILITY", and US$ 94,356 (up from 9,385 at the end of 2009) as cash in the balance, so this amount was at least officially accounted for and actually available in cash.

Orphia Nay · 11th December 2011, 10:21 PM

I just posted this on Remember Building 7's Facebook wall:

You said the advertising campaign would begin in October. It's now December. What's happened to the $80,000 raised so far?

"The 10th Anniversary Campaign will use the unprecedented level of attention and burning desire for truth felt across the world to mobilize thousands of people to donate a total of $1 million between Labor Day and September 11th. Remember Building 7 will use that money for an historic nationwide ad campaign in the month of October showing the American people the unmistakable footage of Building 7's demolition and forcing the mainstream media to finally discuss Building 7." - Remember Building 7, 17 August 2011.
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carlitos · 12th December 2011, 05:52 AM

Wow. I looked at some of the more recent posts at that facebook page, and they are good evidence for Scott Sommers' right-wing / Christian truther claims.

Quote:

Al Oranje
under orders of the black pope - the jesuit general that hides in the vatican and gets orders from lucifer himself - Barry Soetero will sign this NAZI "bill" UNLESS we ALL take action - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiKvSz_wX8

Quote:

Dylan Brady
The solution is simple: "It starts with each country taking back their central bank so that it will provide the necessary amount of interest-free money to meet the needs of the real national economy, so that all the powerful funny-money bankers can be routed. That means freeing your central bank from global banker control."

Quote:

Eye Ind Sky
TO ALL BELIEVERS, THERE SHOULD BE A ZERO BETWEEN [1BC] AND [1AD] THE END OF THE WORLD IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS MONTH. I AM [THE LORD'S PROPHET *iSRAEL] (ISAIAH44:5). I WAS SENT BY GOD TO DESTROY THE WISDOM OF MAN(ISAIAH 29:14-16). THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH OF GOD IS IN THE BIBLE. ALL ONE NEEDS TO DO IS FORM A GROUP AND AFFILIATE YOUR GROUP WITH THE CHURCH OF GOD. CONSULT BRO. ELI SORIANO AT THE FOLLOWING...
See More

NoahFence · 13th December 2011, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Wow. I looked at some of the more recent posts at that facebook page, and they are good evidence for Scott Sommers' right-wing / Christian truther claims.

I dunno... they seem legit.

Oh, how adorable. The end of the world in all-caps retard is using the Guy Fawkes mask for an added layer of credibility. LOL

** Nothing, and I mean nothing says "I'm 15 years old and have no clue" more than a Guy Fawkes mask. Please tell these kids that V for Vendetta was a MOVIE!

Cl1mh4224rd · 13th December 2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

Please tell these kids that V for Vendetta was a MOVIE!

It was a comic book before that.

NoahFence · 13th December 2011, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

It was a comic book before that.

I defer to your comic intelligence.

Uh, that didn't come out right.

carlitos · 13th December 2011, 03:06 PM

Over at the main ae911truth page, the fundraising is continuing apace:

Robrob · 13th December 2011, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Over at the main ae911truth page, the fundraising is continuing apace

2% of their goal - in one year they had only six donors and raised under $400????

carlitos · 14th December 2011, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Robrob

2% of their goal - in one year they had only six donors and raised under $400????

Hey, it's free money. They now have like 4 or 5 different websites (and, apparently, a sex-toy e-commerce site), all linked to each other. If you don't care about honesty or self-respect, it's a good way to make a living, I guess.

DGM · 14th December 2011, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Robrob

2% of their goal - in one year they had only six donors and raised under $400????

You're way off. This latest "tote board" is only a month or so old. Although their fund rising has dropped off (along with their live performances) "truth" has been very good to Gage. Although they have fallen off in the last couple months I fully expect next years total intake to surpass last years $435K. Don't be surprised if Gages' "earnings" this year(2011 tax year) tops $100K.

As for 2012 tax year.

ref · 17th January 2012, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by ref

It's been that much since late October. They don't update.

ETA: Sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean that the campaign site wasn't there. I meant, that Gage had removed all the links TO the campaign site from AE911T's frontpage. People can still donate to the campaign, but since the campaign is basically forgotten and not advertised anywhere, how much success can anyone expect.

Wow, I just remembered this fiasco.

Still no new updates on the campaign site. The money counter has been showing the same figure since late October.

They have, however, returned the campaign banner to AE911Truth site. Earlier it was replaced by an "Occupy building 7" banner, but since that event turned out to be an equally miserable fiasco, they have now replaced it back.

And I see Orphia has received no response. Suprise!

Orphia Nay · 17th January 2012, 12:49 PM

Manny Badillo has been too busy spamming the Australian Skeptics Facebook page to send any updates, it seems. Even there he didn't mention Occupy Building 7 etc.

carlitos · 18th January 2012, 02:12 PM

Poster Clayton Moore added "remember building 7" to his signature at the JREF, so there's some awareness-building activity.

Orphia Nay · 18th January 2012, 10:46 PM

On Remember Building 7's Facebook page they've got quite a few Ron Paul supporters. Yep, people so insane they think he believes in an inside job despite his denying it numerous times.

George152 · 19th January 2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

On Remember Building 7's Facebook page they've got quite a few Ron Paul supporters. Yep, people so insane they think he believes in an inside job despite his denying it numerous times.

There's no 'dislike' button on the page

cjnewson88 · 19th January 2012, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

On Remember Building 7's Facebook page they've got quite a few Ron Paul supporters. Yep, people so insane they think he believes in an inside job despite his denying it numerous times.

Whether Paul is or not is very unclear. Don't get me wrong, I do like the guy, but his close relationship with Alex Jones and all his crazies is rather concerning. I've heard a few interviews with him and Alex Jones where Paul mentions the NWO by name several times, and I've seen interviews where people ask him to his face "why don't you come about the truth about 9/11?" and his response is "Because I can't handle the controversy ... I have too many things to deal with".

Hardly the response of a guy who firmly believes the official story. Either he also believes it was an inside job, or he trying desperately to grab the votes of the crazies who do.

sheeplesnshills · 19th January 2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by cjnewson88

Either he also believes it was an inside job, or he trying desperately to grab the votes of the crazies who do.

Scary either way........

Orphia Nay · 4th February 2012, 09:45 PM

This belongs here too:

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

I've just been listening to a recent interview with Manny Badillo by Hereward Fenton.

http://www.truthnews.com.au/web/radi..._manny_badillo

Interesting to hear in his own words his journey from the tragedy of 9/11 to the tragedy of his involvement in the 9/11 truth movement. (The Jersey Girls and Bob McInvaine were a big influence, along with Michael Ruppert's book.)

No mention of what's happened to the $80K raised by Remember Building 7 other than the ad's "on the way".

My irony meter exploded when they discussed their recent foray onto the Australian Skeptics Facebook page.

And no mention of his house arrest and ongoing court case, which is fair enough, considering the topic was 9/11.

Clayton Moore · 7th February 2012, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by sylvan8798

Is there a penalty for defacing subway posters? Would the NY police department enforce rules against defacing truther carp?

Go for it.

Loss Leader · 7th February 2012, 01:58 PM

A derail about the media and 9/11 has been split to this new thread. If you are interested in that conversation, please continue the discussion there.

Posted By:Loss Leader

ref · 14th March 2012, 12:36 AM

Just a reminder. No updates in six (6) months. It's March 2012 now, this was supposed to be huge (in September 2011 that is). They still have the $80k. Or do they, nobody knows, nobody tells what's happening.

Orphia Nay · 14th March 2012, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by ref

Just a reminder. No updates in six (6) months. It's March 2012 now, this was supposed to be huge (in September 2011 that is). They still have the $80k. Or do they, nobody knows, nobody tells what's happening.

Indeed. I was thinking the same thing yesterday, and posted this on their Facebook wall.

http://www.facebook.com/rememberbuil...=wall&filter=1

Quote:

You said the Remember Building 7 advertising campaign would begin in October. It's now Mid-March. What's happened to the $80,000 raised so far?

"The 10th Anniversary Campaign will use the unprecedented level of attention and burning desire for truth felt across the world to mobilize thousands of people to donate a total of $1 million between Labor Day and September 11th. Remember Building 7 will use that money for an historic nationwide ad campaign in the month of October showing the American people the unmistakable footage of Building 7's demolition and forcing the mainstream media to finally discuss Building 7." - Remember Building 7, 17 August 2011.

Clayton Moore · 14th March 2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

Indeed. I was thinking the same thing yesterday, and posted this on their Facebook wall.

http://www.facebook.com/rememberbuil...=wall&filter=1

Don't worry, there will be hell to pay.

BasqueArch · 14th March 2012, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

Don't worry, there will be hell to pay.

And Gage will be there cashing the checks.

000063 · 14th March 2012, 12:52 PM

First up against the wall, etc. Any day now. Anyyy day.

Orphia Nay · 14th March 2012, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

Don't worry, there will be hell to pay.

Did you donate?

Orphia Nay · 21st June 2012, 07:07 PM

My OP for this thread:

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

After their previous fundraising campaigns in which the goal target was increasingly reduced, and the timeframe for the goal increasingly lengthened, comes the "Largest 9/11 Campaign Ever".

From their newsletter:

THE PLAN

The 10th Anniversary Campaign will use the unprecedented level of attention and burning desire for truth felt across the world to mobilize thousands of people to donate a total of $1 million between Labor Day [(September 5th)] and September 11th. Remember Building 7 will use that money for an historic nationwide ad campaign in the month of October showing the American people the unmistakable footage of Building 7's demolition and forcing the mainstream media to finally discuss Building 7.

THE ADS

The campaign will be a three-pronged blitz of TV, print, and out-of-home advertising. New York City subways will be flooded with poster ads while TV ads saturate every major cable channel. Print ads will appear in several national publications and in local newspapers in Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Dallas.

...

COORDINATED EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT

In addition to the 10th Anniversary Campaign, your generous support will help fund the Toronto Hearings, and the production and mailing of AE911Truth's new feature length documentary, "9/11: Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out," and their 15-minute mini-documentary, "Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7," to every member of Congress, the New York City Council and the Manhattan District Attorney. Watch the 15-minute documentary now to understand the impact these videos will have in front of the elected representatives who will see them.
Do not miss this unprecedented opportunity to support the most promising 9/11 efforts all at once and make the 10th Anniversary a vital turning point in the pursuit of a new 9/11 investigation.

http://rememberbuilding7.org/10/

===

Previous threads on this bunch of morons:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=182595
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=211371

Today from RL McGee on 911Blogger:

http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012-...e-full-page-ad

"We are thrilled to inform you that the World Premiere Tour of AE911Truth’s new documentary, “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out,” is coming to New York this Sunday, June 24.

"To show our support for the release of this groundbreaking film and use it as an opportunity to educate hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers, the Remember Building 7 campaign has contributed a small portion of the $85,000 we raised during the 10th Anniversary to place a double full-page ad in the center fold of this week’s Village Voice."

"This massive ad featuring quotes from eight architects, engineers and other technical experts will be seen by 250,000 to 300,000 New Yorkers over the next seven days, with each impression costing less than 3 cents."

That's approximately $8,250 for the ad. Not quite a "small portion", I don't think.

Plus, the ad is just advertising Gage et al.

"Looking ahead, in the next three months the Remember Building 7 team will be deciding on the best way to use the remaining funds raised during the 10th Anniversary. After falling short of the original fundraising target and therefore being unable to execute our original advertising plan, we decided to bide our time and wait for the right opportunities, like the release of “Experts Speak Out.” If you have a creative and concrete suggestion for how to use of the remaining funds, please contact us!

"Finally, to those of you who donated at least $50 during the 10th Anniversary, you will receive your very own copy of the Toronto Hearings DVD within the next 6 to 8 weeks. Again, thank you for your generous support!"

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

Don't worry, there will be hell to pay.

Happy now?

DGM · 21st June 2012, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

"Finally, to those of you who donated at least $50 during the 10th Anniversary, you will receive your very own copy of the Toronto Hearings DVD within the next 6 to 8 weeks. Again, thank you for your generous support!"[/indent][/i]

I wonder if Gage gave the "campaign" a good deal on the DVDs.

Orphia Nay · 21st June 2012, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by DGM

I wonder if Gage gave the "campaign" a good deal on the DVDs.

He got a pretty good deal out of the campaign. When the campaign was launched, they said he would get 5% of profits.

Now, he gets the ad as well, which is another 10% of the profits.

Any donors feeling a bit pissed off?

R.Mackey · 21st June 2012, 09:47 PM

I've said it before and will again, Gage is the best thing going in the Truth Movement -- from their opponent's perspective. The only thing he does is to vacuum up as much Truther donation money as possible and flush it down a rathole, accomplishing nothing apart from building an even more efficient money-destroying apparatus. As seen above, he's even consuming money that donors didn't even know would go to support him.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." (Napoleon)

LSSBB · 21st June 2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by R.Mackey

I've said it before and will again, Gage is the best thing going in the Truth Movement -- from their opponent's perspective. The only thing he does is to vacuum up as much Truther donation money as possible and flush it down a rathole, accomplishing nothing apart from building an even more efficient money-destroying apparatus. As seen above, he's even consuming money that donors didn't even know would go to support him.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." (Napoleon)

He's the Truther "Doomsday Machine".

Oystein · 21st June 2012, 11:42 PM

Isn't that the $85,000 that Mike Gravel stole? So he returned the dough?

Orphia Nay · 21st June 2012, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Isn't that the $85,000 that Mike Gravel stole? So he returned the dough?

No, you're thinking of the Citizens 9/11 Commission Campaign, I think, which was formerly led by Mike Gravel.

http://9-11cc.org/

Orphia Nay · 21st June 2012, 11:59 PM

On AE911Truth's 2010 IRS Form 990 it shows that Gage is/was still holding $69,000 raised by the Building What campaign (of which he was only supposed to keep 5%).

The $85,000 raised by the Remember Building 7 campaign is likely also being held by AE911Truth.

As I understand it, Ae911T will be earning interest on all this.

Justin39640 · 22nd June 2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

On AE911Truth's 2010 IRS Form 990 it shows that Gage is/was still holding $69,000 raised by the Building What campaign (of which he was only supposed to keep 5%).

The $85,000 raised by the Remember Building 7 campaign is likely also being held by AE911Truth.

As I understand it, Ae911T will be earning interest on all this.

It's smart. A girl I date works for a huge energy company. When other companies overpay a contract, they hold the balance in their account. They won't spend the overpay, but they don't tell them either. When the company that overpaid catches it, they release the overpay balance. Her company keeps the interest though. We're talking millions sometimes that sits for months.

Can a non profit do that too? Collect interest on money that can't (or doesn't want to) be spent? I bet they set their goals too high just for that reason. Also, since AE911 is just holding the money for these "other" campaigns, do they get a consult fee, %, or something? AE911 looks like a multi-level scam to me.

Carnies and Rubes.

ozeco41 · 22nd June 2012, 02:00 PM

Given the proven ethical bankruptcy of AE911Truth on its primary goals - i.e. its continuing support of false claims for CD at WTC on 9/11...

....why would we expect higher ethical standards on "mere" financial scams???

In fact I am probably on shaky ground if I even use the word "ethical" when referring to AE911Lies.

So my apologies to those who are offended by my misuse of English language.

Clayton Moore · 22nd June 2012, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

On AE911Truth's 2010 IRS Form 990 it shows that Gage is/was still holding $69,000 raised by the Building What campaign (of which he was only supposed to keep 5%).

The $85,000 raised by the Remember Building 7 campaign is likely also being held by AE911Truth.

As I understand it, Ae911T will be earning interest on all this.

So what? Those amounts are less than an IS Manager made 30 years ago.

Orphia Nay · 22nd June 2012, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

So what? Those amounts are less than an IS Manager made 30 years ago.

A who?

Also, this chalk is less than this cheese.

19th November 2011, 04:29 AM	#161
DGM #4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 14,303	Originally Posted by Macgyver1968 So where's that Final Report? It's been more than 2 months. Have you sent in your $39.95 USD (plus S&H)? Buy wait.........................for a limited time you will also receive the limited edition DVD box set absolutely free! (a $60 value). (Just add shipping and handling).
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19th November 2011, 08:50 PM	#162
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	Ted Walter of NYCCAN / Building What / Remember Building 7 / Occupy Building 7 was on a truthy radio show talking about those organisations a few days ago. The mp3 is here: http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett...th-ted-walter/ Funnily, the interviewer didn't press him on where the money they've raised will go. Walter said they'd raised about $100,000 and that a million would make people talk about Building 7. And that was pretty much it. Still no reply from Badillo or anyone on Facebook.
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24th November 2011, 01:24 AM	#163
Oystein Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 9,735	Originally Posted by Mr.D Came and went. Any updates on their filing? They filed on november 14th - or at least Form 990, which is currently being passed around in private (see here), was signed that day. It's not yet on Guidestar, though. Not sure if and when it will go there. Probably after the IRS handled the form, which might take a fortnight. Per the end of fiscal year 2010 they list US$ 66,461 as "BUILDING WHAT LIABILITY", and US$ 94,356 (up from 9,385 at the end of 2009) as cash in the balance, so this amount was at least officially accounted for and actually available in cash.
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11th December 2011, 10:21 PM	#164
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	I just posted this on Remember Building 7's Facebook wall: You said the advertising campaign would begin in October. It's now December. What's happened to the $80,000 raised so far? "The 10th Anniversary Campaign will use the unprecedented level of attention and burning desire for truth felt across the world to mobilize thousands of people to donate a total of $1 million between Labor Day and September 11th. Remember Building 7 will use that money for an historic nationwide ad campaign in the month of October showing the American people the unmistakable footage of Building 7's demolition and forcing the mainstream media to finally discuss Building 7." - Remember Building 7, 17 August 2011. ===
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13th December 2011, 09:32 AM	#166
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,293	Originally Posted by carlitos Wow. I looked at some of the more recent posts at that facebook page, and they are good evidence for Scott Sommers' right-wing / Christian truther claims. I dunno... they seem legit. Oh, how adorable. The end of the world in all-caps retard is using the Guy Fawkes mask for an added layer of credibility. LOL ** Nothing, and I mean nothing says "I'm 15 years old and have no clue" more than a Guy Fawkes mask. Please tell these kids that V for Vendetta was a MOVIE!
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12th December 2011, 05:52 AM	#165
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11,463	Wow. I looked at some of the more recent posts at that facebook page, and they are good evidence for Scott Sommers' right-wing / Christian truther claims. Quote: Al Oranje under orders of the black pope - the jesuit general that hides in the vatican and gets orders from lucifer himself - Barry Soetero will sign this NAZI "bill" UNLESS we ALL take action - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiKvSz_wX8 Quote: Dylan Brady The solution is simple: "It starts with each country taking back their central bank so that it will provide the necessary amount of interest-free money to meet the needs of the real national economy, so that all the powerful funny-money bankers can be routed. That means freeing your central bank from global banker control." Quote: Eye Ind Sky TO ALL BELIEVERS, THERE SHOULD BE A ZERO BETWEEN [1BC] AND [1AD] THE END OF THE WORLD IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS MONTH. I AM [THE LORD'S PROPHET *iSRAEL] (ISAIAH44:5). I WAS SENT BY GOD TO DESTROY THE WISDOM OF MAN(ISAIAH 29:14-16). THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH OF GOD IS IN THE BIBLE. ALL ONE NEEDS TO DO IS FORM A GROUP AND AFFILIATE YOUR GROUP WITH THE CHURCH OF GOD. CONSULT BRO. ELI SORIANO AT THE FOLLOWING... See More

13th December 2011, 09:53 AM	#167
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	Originally Posted by NoahFence Please tell these kids that V for Vendetta was a MOVIE! It was a comic book before that.

13th December 2011, 10:56 AM	#168
NoahFence Psycho Kitty Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 9,293	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd It was a comic book before that. I defer to your comic intelligence. Uh, that didn't come out right.
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13th December 2011, 03:06 PM	#169
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11,463	Over at the main ae911truth page, the fundraising is continuing apace:

13th December 2011, 07:58 PM	#170
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	Originally Posted by carlitos Over at the main ae911truth page, the fundraising is continuing apace 2% of their goal - in one year they had only six donors and raised under $400????
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660

14th December 2011, 09:27 AM	#171
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11,463	Originally Posted by Robrob 2% of their goal - in one year they had only six donors and raised under $400???? Hey, it's free money. They now have like 4 or 5 different websites (and, apparently, a sex-toy e-commerce site), all linked to each other. If you don't care about honesty or self-respect, it's a good way to make a living, I guess.

14th December 2011, 11:06 AM	#172
DGM #4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 14,303	Originally Posted by Robrob 2% of their goal - in one year they had only six donors and raised under $400???? You're way off. This latest "tote board" is only a month or so old. Although their fund rising has dropped off (along with their live performances) "truth" has been very good to Gage. Although they have fallen off in the last couple months I fully expect next years total intake to surpass last years $435K. Don't be surprised if Gages' "earnings" this year(2011 tax year) tops $100K. As for 2012 tax year.
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17th January 2012, 02:03 AM	#173
ref Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,663	Originally Posted by ref It's been that much since late October. They don't update. ETA: Sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean that the campaign site wasn't there. I meant, that Gage had removed all the links TO the campaign site from AE911T's frontpage. People can still donate to the campaign, but since the campaign is basically forgotten and not advertised anywhere, how much success can anyone expect. Wow, I just remembered this fiasco. Still no new updates on the campaign site. The money counter has been showing the same figure since late October. They have, however, returned the campaign banner to AE911Truth site. Earlier it was replaced by an "Occupy building 7" banner, but since that event turned out to be an equally miserable fiasco, they have now replaced it back. And I see Orphia has received no response. Suprise!
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17th January 2012, 12:49 PM	#174
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	Manny Badillo has been too busy spamming the Australian Skeptics Facebook page to send any updates, it seems. Even there he didn't mention Occupy Building 7 etc.
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18th January 2012, 02:12 PM	#175
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11,463	Poster Clayton Moore added "remember building 7" to his signature at the JREF, so there's some awareness-building activity.

18th January 2012, 10:46 PM	#176
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	On Remember Building 7's Facebook page they've got quite a few Ron Paul supporters. Yep, people so insane they think he believes in an inside job despite his denying it numerous times.
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19th January 2012, 12:03 PM	#177
George152 Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hamilton New Zealand Posts: 2,041	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay On Remember Building 7's Facebook page they've got quite a few Ron Paul supporters. Yep, people so insane they think he believes in an inside job despite his denying it numerous times. There's no 'dislike' button on the page
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19th January 2012, 01:55 PM	#178
cjnewson88 Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: The van with the big antenna Posts: 1,284	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay On Remember Building 7's Facebook page they've got quite a few Ron Paul supporters. Yep, people so insane they think he believes in an inside job despite his denying it numerous times. Whether Paul is or not is very unclear. Don't get me wrong, I do like the guy, but his close relationship with Alex Jones and all his crazies is rather concerning. I've heard a few interviews with him and Alex Jones where Paul mentions the NWO by name several times, and I've seen interviews where people ask him to his face "why don't you come about the truth about 9/11?" and his response is "Because I can't handle the controversy ... I have too many things to deal with". Hardly the response of a guy who firmly believes the official story. Either he also believes it was an inside job, or he trying desperately to grab the votes of the crazies who do.
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19th January 2012, 06:42 PM	#179
sheeplesnshills Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,706	Originally Posted by cjnewson88 Either he also believes it was an inside job, or he trying desperately to grab the votes of the crazies who do. Scary either way........

4th February 2012, 09:45 PM	#180
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	This belongs here too: Originally Posted by Orphia Nay I've just been listening to a recent interview with Manny Badillo by Hereward Fenton. http://www.truthnews.com.au/web/radi..._manny_badillo Interesting to hear in his own words his journey from the tragedy of 9/11 to the tragedy of his involvement in the 9/11 truth movement. (The Jersey Girls and Bob McInvaine were a big influence, along with Michael Ruppert's book.) No mention of what's happened to the $80K raised by Remember Building 7 other than the ad's "on the way". My irony meter exploded when they discussed their recent foray onto the Australian Skeptics Facebook page. And no mention of his house arrest and ongoing court case, which is fair enough, considering the topic was 9/11.
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7th February 2012, 10:17 AM	#181
Clayton Moore Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,167	Originally Posted by sylvan8798 Is there a penalty for defacing subway posters? Would the NY police department enforce rules against defacing truther carp? Go for it.
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14th March 2012, 12:36 AM	#183
ref Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,663	Just a reminder. No updates in six (6) months. It's March 2012 now, this was supposed to be huge (in September 2011 that is). They still have the $80k. Or do they, nobody knows, nobody tells what's happening.
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14th March 2012, 12:40 AM	#184
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	Originally Posted by ref Just a reminder. No updates in six (6) months. It's March 2012 now, this was supposed to be huge (in September 2011 that is). They still have the $80k. Or do they, nobody knows, nobody tells what's happening. Indeed. I was thinking the same thing yesterday, and posted this on their Facebook wall. http://www.facebook.com/rememberbuil...=wall&filter=1 Quote: You said the Remember Building 7 advertising campaign would begin in October. It's now Mid-March. What's happened to the $80,000 raised so far? "The 10th Anniversary Campaign will use the unprecedented level of attention and burning desire for truth felt across the world to mobilize thousands of people to donate a total of $1 million between Labor Day and September 11th. Remember Building 7 will use that money for an historic nationwide ad campaign in the month of October showing the American people the unmistakable footage of Building 7's demolition and forcing the mainstream media to finally discuss Building 7." - Remember Building 7, 17 August 2011.
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14th March 2012, 12:42 PM	#185
Clayton Moore Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,167	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay Indeed. I was thinking the same thing yesterday, and posted this on their Facebook wall. http://www.facebook.com/rememberbuil...=wall&filter=1 Don't worry, there will be hell to pay.
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14th March 2012, 12:50 PM	#186
BasqueArch Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Whispering Glades, Fredonia Posts: 1,370	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore Don't worry, there will be hell to pay. And Gage will be there cashing the checks.
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14th March 2012, 12:52 PM	#187
000063 Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Not America. Posts: 4,734	First up against the wall, etc. Any day now. Anyyy day.
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14th March 2012, 02:18 PM	#188
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore Don't worry, there will be hell to pay. Did you donate?
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21st June 2012, 07:07 PM	#189
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	My OP for this thread: Originally Posted by Orphia Nay After their previous fundraising campaigns in which the goal target was increasingly reduced, and the timeframe for the goal increasingly lengthened, comes the "Largest 9/11 Campaign Ever". From their newsletter: THE PLAN The 10th Anniversary Campaign will use the unprecedented level of attention and burning desire for truth felt across the world to mobilize thousands of people to donate a total of $1 million between Labor Day [(September 5th)] and September 11th. Remember Building 7 will use that money for an historic nationwide ad campaign in the month of October showing the American people the unmistakable footage of Building 7's demolition and forcing the mainstream media to finally discuss Building 7. THE ADS The campaign will be a three-pronged blitz of TV, print, and out-of-home advertising. New York City subways will be flooded with poster ads while TV ads saturate every major cable channel. Print ads will appear in several national publications and in local newspapers in Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Dallas. ... COORDINATED EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT In addition to the 10th Anniversary Campaign, your generous support will help fund the Toronto Hearings, and the production and mailing of AE911Truth's new feature length documentary, "9/11: Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out," and their 15-minute mini-documentary, "Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of WTC 7," to every member of Congress, the New York City Council and the Manhattan District Attorney. Watch the 15-minute documentary now to understand the impact these videos will have in front of the elected representatives who will see them. Do not miss this unprecedented opportunity to support the most promising 9/11 efforts all at once and make the 10th Anniversary a vital turning point in the pursuit of a new 9/11 investigation. http://rememberbuilding7.org/10/ === Previous threads on this bunch of morons: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=182595 http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=211371 Today from RL McGee on 911Blogger: http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012-...e-full-page-ad "We are thrilled to inform you that the World Premiere Tour of AE911Truth’s new documentary, “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out,” is coming to New York this Sunday, June 24. "To show our support for the release of this groundbreaking film and use it as an opportunity to educate hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers, the Remember Building 7 campaign has contributed a small portion of the $85,000 we raised during the 10th Anniversary to place a double full-page ad in the center fold of this week’s Village Voice." "This massive ad featuring quotes from eight architects, engineers and other technical experts will be seen by 250,000 to 300,000 New Yorkers over the next seven days, with each impression costing less than 3 cents." That's approximately $8,250 for the ad. Not quite a "small portion", I don't think. Plus, the ad is just advertising Gage et al. "Looking ahead, in the next three months the Remember Building 7 team will be deciding on the best way to use the remaining funds raised during the 10th Anniversary. After falling short of the original fundraising target and therefore being unable to execute our original advertising plan, we decided to bide our time and wait for the right opportunities, like the release of “Experts Speak Out.” If you have a creative and concrete suggestion for how to use of the remaining funds, please contact us! "Finally, to those of you who donated at least $50 during the 10th Anniversary, you will receive your very own copy of the Toronto Hearings DVD within the next 6 to 8 weeks. Again, thank you for your generous support!" Originally Posted by Clayton Moore Don't worry, there will be hell to pay. Happy now?
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21st June 2012, 07:55 PM	#190
DGM #4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 14,303	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay "Finally, to those of you who donated at least $50 during the 10th Anniversary, you will receive your very own copy of the Toronto Hearings DVD within the next 6 to 8 weeks. Again, thank you for your generous support!"[/indent][/i] I wonder if Gage gave the "campaign" a good deal on the DVDs.
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21st June 2012, 09:23 PM	#191
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	Originally Posted by DGM I wonder if Gage gave the "campaign" a good deal on the DVDs. He got a pretty good deal out of the campaign. When the campaign was launched, they said he would get 5% of profits. Now, he gets the ad as well, which is another 10% of the profits. Any donors feeling a bit pissed off?
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21st June 2012, 09:47 PM	#192
R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	I've said it before and will again, Gage is the best thing going in the Truth Movement -- from their opponent's perspective. The only thing he does is to vacuum up as much Truther donation money as possible and flush it down a rathole, accomplishing nothing apart from building an even more efficient money-destroying apparatus. As seen above, he's even consuming money that donors didn't even know would go to support him. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." (Napoleon)
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21st June 2012, 10:03 PM	#193
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelor's Grove Cemetery Posts: 4,490	Originally Posted by R.Mackey I've said it before and will again, Gage is the best thing going in the Truth Movement -- from their opponent's perspective. The only thing he does is to vacuum up as much Truther donation money as possible and flush it down a rathole, accomplishing nothing apart from building an even more efficient money-destroying apparatus. As seen above, he's even consuming money that donors didn't even know would go to support him. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." (Napoleon) He's the Truther "Doomsday Machine".
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21st June 2012, 11:42 PM	#194
Oystein Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 9,735	Isn't that the $85,000 that Mike Gravel stole? So he returned the dough?

21st June 2012, 11:51 PM	#195
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	Originally Posted by Oystein Isn't that the $85,000 that Mike Gravel stole? So he returned the dough? No, you're thinking of the Citizens 9/11 Commission Campaign, I think, which was formerly led by Mike Gravel. http://9-11cc.org/
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21st June 2012, 11:59 PM	#196
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,345	On AE911Truth's 2010 IRS Form 990 it shows that Gage is/was still holding $69,000 raised by the Building What campaign (of which he was only supposed to keep 5%). The $85,000 raised by the Remember Building 7 campaign is likely also being held by AE911Truth. As I understand it, Ae911T will be earning interest on all this.
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