Scientists have shown that inbreeding leads to female promiscuity.

[Bad Lieutenant]

Quote:

The team, who report their findings in the journal Science, witnessed this change in mating behaviour when they bred female flour beetles with their close relatives.

The researchers suspect that promiscuous females are avoiding the ill affects of inbreeding by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15002277


I wonder if they'll change the name of "Slut pride" marches to "Hick pride"...

[JJM 777]

"The researchers suspect that promiscuous females are avoiding the ill affects of inbreeding by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm."

I love hate ignore loathe donīt trust this standard behaviour of evolutionists, recognize a potential advantage and wildly assume that either the creature of its genes are aware of the advantage and consciously seeking it. That is not what the evolution theory is based on, by the way. It is based on blind trial and blind error, not conscious pursuit of some evolutionary objective.

[quarky]

Way to take all the smutty goodness out of the thread, jjm 777.

Of course, like my Aunt Betty, you are correct.

[Roboramma]

Originally Posted by JJM 777

"The researchers suspect that promiscuous females are avoiding the ill affects of inbreeding by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm."

I love hate ignore loathe donīt trust this standard behaviour of evolutionists, recognize a potential advantage and wildly assume that either the creature of its genes are aware of the advantage and consciously seeking it. That is not what the evolution theory is based on, by the way. It is based on blind trial and blind error, not conscious pursuit of some evolutionary objective.

The quoted text doesn't do anything of that sort. It doesn't suggest that "either the creature or its genes are aware of the advantage and consciously seeking it".

That the females are "avoiding the ill effects of inbreeding" doesn't mean that they are consciously doing so, and that they do so "by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm" doesn't require any awareness of that effect either, it simply says that the they are positing that the reason this behavior (exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm) is adaptive is that it avoids the ill effects of inbreeding.

Where does conscious awareness enter into it?

[Bad Lieutenant]

Originally Posted by JJM 777

"The researchers suspect that promiscuous females are avoiding the ill affects of inbreeding by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm."

I love hate ignore loathe donīt trust this standard behaviour of evolutionists, recognize a potential advantage and wildly assume that either the creature or its genes are aware of the advantage and consciously seeking it. That is not what the evolution theory is based on, by the way. It is based on blind trial and blind error, not conscious pursuit of some evolutionary objective.

FIFY?

I don't really understand your objection the behaviour is selected for and so increases in frequency in subsequent generations what's the problem you really think the authors are attempting to anthropomorphise flour beetles to the point of attributing consciousness? I didn't read it like that, but then I am surely an evolutionist.

[Bad Lieutenant]

Oh, Roboramma beat me to it

[tkmikkelsen]

Originally Posted by JJM 777

"The researchers suspect that promiscuous females are avoiding the ill affects of inbreeding by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm."

I love hate ignore loathe donīt trust this standard behaviour of evolutionists, recognize a potential advantage and wildly assume that either the creature of its genes are aware of the advantage and consciously seeking it. That is not what the evolution theory is based on, by the way. It is based on blind trial and blind error, not conscious pursuit of some evolutionary objective.

You have to learn that when biologists say things like, avoiding, choosing and selecting, they are not referring to it as a consciousness decisions.

In this case it could be speculated that there in this particular flour fly is a gene for promiscuous behavior, but it is a recessive gene, meaning it only comes into effect when you have two of them. Chances on any given flour fly having 2 such promiscuous genes are more likely in an inbreed crowd of flies, since they share more of the same genes.

[NoZed Avenger]

But how can we encourage inbreeding so th-



Oh. Beetles. Yes.

[CORed]

Originally Posted by NoZed Avenger

But how can we encourage inbreeding so th-



Oh. Beetles. Yes.

It's a shame. I already cancelled my plans to move to Arkansas.

[BenBurch]

Originally Posted by CORed

It's a shame. I already cancelled my plans to move to Arkansas.

Actually, you find more of that in Kentucky. Dated a girl from the hills of Kentucky, and yep, she was promiscuous...

[little grey rabbit]

Originally Posted by JJM 777

"The researchers suspect that promiscuous females are avoiding the ill affects of inbreeding by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm."

I love hate ignore loathe donīt trust this standard behaviour of evolutionists, recognize a potential advantage and wildly assume that either the creature of its genes are aware of the advantage and consciously seeking it. That is not what the evolution theory is based on, by the way. It is based on blind trial and blind error, not conscious pursuit of some evolutionary objective.

Known as evolutionary just-so stories - or at least a subset thereof.

[little grey rabbit]

Originally Posted by BenBurch

Actually, you find more of that in Kentucky. Dated a girl from the hills of Kentucky, and yep, she was promiscuous...

I can well believe it.

[quarky]

Kentucky hillbillies model themselves after the British Royalty.

[muzungu100]

Originally Posted by JJM 777

"The researchers suspect that promiscuous females are avoiding the ill affects of inbreeding by exposing themselves to a larger pool of sperm.

There's an image that's going to stay with me.