Occupy Wall Street better defend its identity

[Checkmite]

Stop police "terror" against "minor sex workers"? Really? How in the...wat

That's just nuts.

[Virus]

How will they top the lunatic list now? Where can you go from there?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Stop police "terror" against "minor sex workers"? Really? How in the...wat

That's just nuts.

They've become a parody of themselves.

Where have the OTA's gone?


(OccuTard Apologist)

[WildCat]

Originally Posted by Virus

Occutards protest an anti-child sex slavery conference and try to storm it and shut it down.

Holy crap, that really has to be seen to be believed!

The only group left in the Occupy fad are the moonbats. They're like truthers, having to latch on to larger demonstrations in a vain attempt to be relevant.

[000063]

Originally Posted by Virus

Occutards protest an anti-child sex slavery conference and try to storm it and shut it down.

Wait a second. Whaaaa? No. That's not a miss-type. Conference against child sex slavery, Occutards against the conference. So the Occutards are for child sex slavery?

You've got to see this stuff to believe it. Just look at them. Look and laugh at the pathetic idiots.

This looks like a job for 60s Spider-Man.

[Newtons Bit]

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Stop police "terror" against "minor sex workers"? Really? How in the...wat

That's just nuts.

In fairness, they may have thought "minor sex workers" were just sex workers who serviced miners.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally Posted by Newtons Bit

In fairness, they may have thought...

Why would they start now?

[Virus]

That picture is win.

[Brainster]

The Occupy Caravan across America will surely bring the system to its knees! Of course, it does start out a little small:

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So, I have to admit, I was extremely anxious about our departure this morning when I hot to 19th & Telegraph at 10am and saw nobody was there. My fears were soon relieved when I got a call from one of the organizers telling me that a second van was rented and that it would be there in about an hour.
My fears were also abated when I started seeing people start to show up. I don't know how many people I was expecting to show up, but I have to admit, I was worried that we would not have enough room to bring everyone.
Fortunately, we left Oakland with 9 people. We have 4 people in each van, and one person traveling in his own vehicle. We have plenty of leg room, a power inverter, music, food and water...what more do we need?

Ummm, people? But even with all that leg room, there are still the inevitable conflicts:

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Well, it's been an interesting past couple of hours. I'm really having some doubts regarding one of the people in the van I am in. He is extremely confrontational, controlling, and, in my humble opinion, thinks way to highly of himself.
I don't know what is going to come out of this with him. I'm definitely not comfortable with having him on this trip. I'm really wishing I had voiced my concerns about him before we left yesterday. Now I worry about how miserable I am going to be for most of this trip.

Lots of photos, but aside from the misery, there's only one real highlight:

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The big excitement for us today was the protest we did at Koch Industries.

Just one little problem:

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Granted, it was a Saturday, and there was nobody there other than a few security guards....

Fun stuff. I am looking forward to more updates.

[JihadJane]

'Occupy Protesters' Rights Must Be Protected, U.N. Says; U.S. Says Nothing'

***WASHINGTON -- Federal officials have yet to respond to two United Nations human rights envoys who formally requested that the U.S. government protect Occupy protesters against excessive force by law enforcement officials.

In a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the two envoys called on U.S. officials to "explain the behavior of police departments that violently disbanded some Occupy protests last fall" and expressed concern that excessive use of force "could have been related to [the protesters'] dissenting views, criticisms of economic policies, and their legitimate work in the defense of human rights and fundamental freedoms."

The envoys also reminded the U.S. government of its international obligations to "take all necessary measures to guarantee that the rights and freedoms of all peaceful protesters be respected."***

[WildCat]

Originally Posted by JihadJane

'Occupy Protesters' Rights Must Be Protected, U.N. Says; U.S. Says Nothing'

***WASHINGTON -- Federal officials have yet to respond to two United Nations human rights envoys who formally requested that the U.S. government protect Occupy protesters against excessive force by law enforcement officials.

In a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the two envoys called on U.S. officials to "explain the behavior of police departments that violently disbanded some Occupy protests last fall" and expressed concern that excessive use of force "could have been related to [the protesters'] dissenting views, criticisms of economic policies, and their legitimate work in the defense of human rights and fundamental freedoms."

The envoys also reminded the U.S. government of its international obligations to "take all necessary measures to guarantee that the rights and freedoms of all peaceful protesters be respected."***

Oh dear, a clueless schmuck from the UN wrote a letter! I guess we'll have to let a few dozen clueless nitwits camp and defecate and commit crimes in public parks now.

[TjW]

Originally Posted by JihadJane

'Occupy Protesters' Rights Must Be Protected, U.N. Says; U.S. Says Nothing'

***WASHINGTON -- Federal officials have yet to respond to two United Nations human rights envoys who formally requested that the U.S. government protect Occupy protesters against excessive force by law enforcement officials.

In a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the two envoys called on U.S. officials to "explain the behavior of police departments that violently disbanded some Occupy protests last fall" and expressed concern that excessive use of force "could have been related to [the protesters'] dissenting views, criticisms of economic policies, and their legitimate work in the defense of human rights and fundamental freedoms."

The envoys also reminded the U.S. government of its international obligations to "take all necessary measures to guarantee that the rights and freedoms of all peaceful protesters be respected."***

Well, that leads to an interesting problem: do we have some method of telling who the True Occupiers are, so they can be given protection?

[Neally]

Originally Posted by WildCat

Oh dear, a clueless schmuck from the UN wrote a letter! I guess we'll have to let a few dozen clueless nitwits camp and defecate and commit crimes in public parks now.

And when will that same schmuck address a letter to the Occutards regarding their support of child prostitution? Oh wait, in true JihadJane fashion, we ignore the idiotic acts and instead focus on thought crimes and imagined oppression from the pigs.

[16.5]

Originally Posted by JihadJane

'Occupy Protesters' Rights Must Be Protected, U.N. Says; U.S. Says Nothing'

***WASHINGTON -- Federal officials have yet to respond to two United Nations human rights envoys who formally requested that the U.S. government protect Occupy protesters against excessive force by law enforcement officials.

In a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the two envoys called on U.S. officials to "explain the behavior of police departments that violently disbanded some Occupy protests last fall" and expressed concern that excessive use of force "could have been related to [the protesters'] dissenting views, criticisms of economic policies, and their legitimate work in the defense of human rights and fundamental freedoms."

The envoys also reminded the U.S. government of its international obligations to "take all necessary measures to guarantee that the rights and freedoms of all peaceful protesters be respected."***

December 21, 2011.

Face palm.

Hey, JJ, old news is SO exciting!

/is this all that she does, spam bull **** from before Occupy went into Winter Hibernation?

[NoahFence]

Come on JJ - aren't you going to defend this with a 1 liner and a link?

[Wolrab]

Originally Posted by JihadJane

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...7134357651.jpg

Once these guys are jailed, they are firmly in the 99%. Will Occupy Iceland be fighting (chanting, pooping in parks, getting stoned, and banging drums) to get these two comrades released?

[JihadJane]

Originally Posted by Wolrab

Once these guys are jailed, they are firmly in the 99%. Will Occupy Iceland be fighting (chanting, pooping in parks, getting stoned, and banging drums) to get these two comrades released?

So witty.

[WildCat]

Originally Posted by Wolrab

Once these guys are jailed, they are firmly in the 99%. Will Occupy Iceland be fighting (chanting, pooping in parks, getting stoned, and banging drums) to get these two comrades released?

Speaking of jail, the "NATO 3" JJ loves so much complained bitterly about the "solitary confinemet" (actually what is known as protective custody) they were kept in at Cook County Jail, they weren't allowed to socialize with the general population. The jail authorities explained that was just temporary until they cleared medical... then when they were given the option to be kept in the general population they suddenly requested solitary confinement protective custody instead. I guess they didn't want to mingle with thousands of hard-core gang bangers after all!

[Virus]

Were they those dopey losers who tried to blow up a bridge?

[000063]

Originally Posted by JihadJane

'Occupy Protesters' Rights Must Be Protected, U.N. Says; U.S. Says Nothing'

***WASHINGTON -- Federal officials have yet to respond to two United Nations human rights envoys who formally requested that the U.S. government protect Occupy protesters against excessive force by law enforcement officials.

In a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the two envoys called on U.S. officials to "explain the behavior of police departments that violently disbanded some Occupy protests last fall" and expressed concern that excessive use of force "could have been related to [the protesters'] dissenting views, criticisms of economic policies, and their legitimate work in the defense of human rights and fundamental freedoms."

The envoys also reminded the U.S. government of its international obligations to "take all necessary measures to guarantee that the rights and freedoms of all peaceful protesters be respected."***

I've noticed that you have a higher tendency of posting these little tidbits after someone else has posted something or the discussion is heading in a direction embarrassing to Occupy. And you don't like to actually discuss them. Why is that? Why do you so studiously avoid saying anything of substance on the matter, instead of just quoting blogs?

I don't think such posts advance the discussion in any meaningful way, Jane.

[Virus]

So what have they achieved besides plumbing depths of asinine stupidity that I didn't even know existed?

[WildCat]

Originally Posted by Virus

Were they those dopey losers who tried to blow up a bridge?

No, they wanted to throw Molotov cocktails to and fro. They're the first people ever to be charged under Illinois' terrorism law!

[Virus]

Ah yes. I got them confused with the Occutards who tried to blow up a bridge.

[000063]

Jane, Occupiers seem to have somehow accidentally disrupted actions being taken against child rape. This is, I assume, some sort of error. Would you care to discuss the matter?

[JihadJane]

***Propping Up a Pyramid Scheme

Is there no alternative but to succumb to the Mafia-like Wall Street protection racket of a covert derivatives trade in interest rate swaps? As Willie and Kirby observe, that scheme itself must ultimately fail, and may have failed already. They point to evidence that the JPM losses are not just $3 billion but $30 billion or more, and that JPM is actually bankrupt.

The derivatives casino itself is just a last-ditch attempt to prop up a private pyramid scheme in fractional-reserve money creation, one that has progressed over several centuries through a series of “reserves”—from gold, to Fed-created “base money,” to mortgage-backed securities, to sovereign debt ostensibly protected with derivatives. We’ve seen that the only real guarantor in all this is the government itself, first with FDIC insurance and then with government bailouts of too-big-to-fail banks. If we the people are funding the banks, we should own them; and our national currency should be issued, not through banks at interest, but through our own sovereign government.

Unlike Greece, which is dependent on an uncooperative European Central Bank for funding, the U.S. still has the legal power to issue its own dollars or borrow them interest-free from its own central bank. The government could buy back its bonds and refinance them at 0% interest through the Federal Reserve—which now buys them on the open market at interest like everyone else—or it could simply rip them up.

The chief obstacle to that alternative is the bugaboo of inflation, but many countries have proven that this approach need not be inflationary. Canada borrowed from its own central bank effectively interest free from 1939 to 1974, stimulating productivity without creating inflation; Australia did it from 1912 to 1923; and China has done it for decades.

The private creation of money at interest is the granddaddy of all pyramid schemes; and like all such schemes, it must eventually collapse, despite a quadrillion dollar derivatives edifice propping it up. Willie and Kirby think that time is upon us. We need to have alternative, public and cooperative systems ready to replace the old system when it comes crashing down.***

'Wall Street's Protection Racket of Covert Derivatives: JPMorgan Derivatives Prop Up U.S. Debt
Why the Senate Won’t Touch Jamie Dimon'

[bynmdsue]

That's nice. So why are they protesting anti-sex trafficking conferences?

[Neally]

Latest idiocy: Occutards burn American Flag In Front of City Councilwoman’s Home, Sing “**** You America” After She Tried To Ban Weapons From Occupy Protests…

http://citizenjournalistdotorg.wordp...h-a-pitchfork/

[000063]

Originally Posted by JihadJane

***[i]Propping Up a Pyramid Scheme

[stuff]

So, "no", then?

Originally Posted by JihadJane

I don't know. I haven't be following that particular bit of exciting gossip. Why do you think they are "protesting anti-sex trafficking conferences"? Have they not given some reasons?

Perhaps you should inform yourself, so you can have that "thoughtful and compassionate" discussion you ask for. There's plenty of pictures and video, easy to digest.

Originally Posted by Virus

Sure you haven't. How convenient that a letter from some guy written last year got your attention but not the topic that's been discussed for the last 2 pages.

So do you support violent protests against child sex-slavery conferences? Yes or no?

Jane, this is usually the point where you usually either ignore the question, or try and "spin" it into something better. I'm trying to be compassionate here, and I believe that the protest was simply some sort of error, or that the folks in question do not represent the greater Occupy movement. This is one time, if any, when you should be pouncing on No True Scotsman with both feet.

http://www.bayofrage.com/from-the-ba...gtheheatwatch/

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On Wednesday, June 13th, 2012, queers and hookers and other bad bitches ********** up the H.E.A.T. Watch conference. H.E.A.T. Watch is an ongoing campaign facilitated by the Alameda County District Attorney, The City of Oakland, the OPD, and a few select piece-of-**** non-profits.

We set out with the intentions of shutting the ********** down and started the event with the distribution of some dope literature, some inflammatory speeches, the harassment of mainstream media and of course, the all-out taunting of the police. It got taken a step further when the crowd attempted to enter the lobby of the Marriott Convention Center. This all resulted in a rumble with the pigs, the vandalized facade of the convention center entrance with eggs and paint, and a march to and from Oscar Grant Plaza. We would say that this was a nice way to spend an afternoon and, for a brief moment, fulfilled our goal of shutting the ********** down.

I certainly don't think these idiots represent all or even a significant portion of Occupy. They seem to be radfems. The problem is that there's no real criteria for being part of OWS; even the 1% of them can be part of it if they support OWS. You can even see someone in the comments of the original post desperately trying to rationalize this. There's also an exchange whose tone may seem familiar to you.

[kmortis]

Keep it on topic. Keep it civil.

Posted By:kmortis

[JihadJane]

***The streets of Montreal are clogged nightly with as many as 100,000 protesters banging pots and pans and demanding that the old systems of power be replaced.
...

The importance of the Occupy movement, and the reason I suspect its encampments were so brutally dismantled by the Obama administration, is that the corporate state understood and feared its potential to spark a popular rebellion. I do not think the state has won. All the injustices and grievances that drove people into the Occupy encampments and onto the streets have been ignored by the state and are getting worse. And we will see eruptions of discontent in the weeks and months ahead.

If these mass protests fail, opposition will inevitably take a frightening turn. The longer we endure political paralysis, the longer the formal mechanisms of power fail to respond, the more the extremists on the left and the right—those who venerate violence and are intolerant of ideological deviations—will be empowered. Under the steady breakdown of globalization, the political environment has become a mound of tinder waiting for a light.***

Northern Light - Chris Hedges

[bynmdsue]

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the reason I suspect its encampments were so brutally dismantled by the Obama administration

Edited by jhunter1163:

Edited for Rule 0.

[WildCat]

Originally Posted by JihadJane;8393526[I

The importance of the Occupy movement, and the reason I suspect its encampments were so brutally dismantled by the Obama administration[/i]

The Obama administration dismantled the occutards encampments?

Obviously written by someone who never set foot in the USA.

[000063]

Jane, you are aware that there are levels of government in the US lower than "The Entire Government", right? Would you care to discuss this in a thoughtful and compassionate manner?

I see you're declining to discuss the protest against the seminar we were discussing. Did you read the article? Why is a blog post "gossip" when it's apparently negative toward OWS but just plain news when you think its positive?

Originally Posted by 000063

I've noticed that you have a higher tendency of posting these little tidbits after someone else has posted something or the discussion is heading in a direction embarrassing to Occupy. And you don't like to actually discuss them. Why is that? Why do you so studiously avoid saying anything of substance on the matter, instead of just quoting blogs?

I don't think such posts advance the discussion in any meaningful way, Jane.

I just want to point out that Jane has linkspammed three times on this one page, in lieu of discussing the matter. The only conclusion is that she does not want to discuss it.

[NoahFence]

....

[Virus]

Originally Posted by WildCat

The Obama administration dismantled the occutards encampments?

Obviously written by someone who never set foot in the USA.

It's written by Chris Hedges, who never set foot in reality.

[16.5]

Originally Posted by Virus

It's written by Chris Hedges, who never set foot in reality.

That never stopped JJ from spamming it with YET another substance-less post.

[Neally]

When you can't defend the indefensible, just ignore it!

[Alt+F4]

Originally Posted by Virus

How will they top the lunatic list now? Where can you go from there?

Maybe Jerry Sanduski can rule them from prison.

[NoahFence]

Originally Posted by Alt+F4

Maybe Jerry Sanduski can rule them from prison.

Sandusky is probably a hero to these fools.

I'd like to organize a fake town hall meeting. Make sure its a topic occutards would come to to protest, but when they get there all the people are wooden cutouts, then blow it sky high, Rock Ridge style.

I have no doubt they'd get stuck going back for a bleep load of dimes, too.

[000063]

Originally Posted by Neally

When you can't defend the indefensible, just ignore it!

What I find ironic is that she was just claiming that she wanted to have a thoughtful and compassionate discussion, then ignored any attempts to start one with her about the matter.

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