The plans of God - Page 12

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by edge

But you implied a lot of bad stuff didn't you?

Stop going off topic to suit your argument. I have been trying to let you

know it isn’t like you think it is.

I don't have to IMPLY, I say it like it is. If you want to read into it more then there is, go for it.

And since when are you on the topic.

You guys talk as if your so-called god is beyond understanding, and next you start to tell us about it. You don't seem to understand how much it wrong with that thinking and/or lack of thinking.

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by edge

But you implied a lot of bad stuff didn't you?

Yes, the god of the bible is a lot of bad stuff. Why do you support it edge, why?

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Again what is the point you are trying to make besides insults?

The god of the bible is an insult. It never has explained anything, nothing about it shows us how anything in reality works. It is nothing but a lazy way out of learning.

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by edge

It's not anything I want it to be but it is clarification on what it will be.

I have experienced both sides and one is malevolent and one is benevolent,

that is how you can tell; the encounter ends badly or absolutely holy/good,

with a good outcome with great information.

It is not a clarification, it only shows me how you think.

You have not experienced both sides, stop lying to yourself.

Your god of the bible is anything but holy, and has shown this time and time again in the bible.

Just look at the story of Adam and Eve. Two people that didn't know good from bad and then are judged as if they did. And your god of the bible makes the so-called children responsible too. That my friend is anything but holy.

Paul

edge · 11th December 2011, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

See people, this is what you learn from believing in a so-called god of the bible, people aren't important, only that god is.

And in my last post I posted no names.

We all have primitive brains edge and knowing this we can adjust our thinking on how and why we think like we do.

Edge "without respelling your name" why do you support such a primitive idea of what a god can be, and why do you think you aren't worthy of a much better god.

Paul

What lies you perpetuate.

We the ability to create, to have a sense of justice, intercede when someone

is at risk from someone’s crimes, rescue, show mercy, forgive - these alone

place him far above the animals,

perhaps even the angels. Man is, surprisingly, quite Godly. Furthermore,

man has the ability to have a relationship with God. Man has the ability to

receive the Holy Spirit - God Himself.

Finally, man is destined for immortality, so where do you get that we are not

important? Where do you not see a plan for us? the whole thing is about our

salvation.

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Where is yours? You love to insult, is that an example of how you have

chosen the right morals through atheism by constantly putting people down

to make yourself feel better?

Edge, you insult all the time. You are the one that thinks he has seen both sides. Please, stop insulting us.

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by edge

these alone place him far above the animals

Oh please edge, I'm a vet of a war, don't talk to me about being above the animals.

Paul

edge · 11th December 2011, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

Yes, the god of the bible is a lot of bad stuff. Why do you support it edge, why?

Paul

You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Finally, man is destined for immortality, so where do you get that we are not

important? Where do you not see a plan for us? the whole thing is about our

salvation.

So you buy into that, I feel sorry for you.

As for the salvation, that didn't happen when the church ruled Europe and/or anywhere else. I only took the rights of people away from them and made them into robots and kept us from the stars.

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by edge

You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.

I can't insult something that isn't edge, the god of the bible isn't and therefore there are no plans.

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:29 PM

This is what can happen when they think they know the god of the bible plans.

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I AGREE

HATE AND LIES.

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by edge

You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.

So, because you believe in this god of the bible, I can't say what I think of it. Sorry, that is not how it works.

Paul

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 05:46 PM

Anyone can say they speak for the god of the bible and/or any other god. For one thing is sure, that god will not say anything about it.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Now do I have to say who said that in his book?

Paul

tsig · 11th December 2011, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by edge

You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.

If someone says something against god you take that as a direct, personal insult?

edge · 11th December 2011, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

Oh please edge, I'm a vet of a war, don't talk to me about being above the animals.

Paul

Oh well then we are even.
" Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?"
~Holly Near

(http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html)

So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out?

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Oh well then we are even.
" Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?"
~Holly Near

(http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html)

So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out?

What, did that shoot over your head.

People go out of their way to kill others in war and for other things. How does that make us better then animals.

And I fell for what system edge, I didn't have the right to vote in the system. It was 21 when I went in, I was 19.

Paul

Leumas · 11th December 2011, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Oh well then we are even.
" Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?"
~Holly Near

(http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html)

So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out?

Cherry picking again Edge?

Why did you not choose this quote from the link you gave

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. ~Blaise Pascal

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 07:22 PM

God's plan......

GOD WITH US.

Nazi Army belt buckle.

Paul

edge · 11th December 2011, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

Anyone can say they speak for the god of the bible and/or any other god. For one thing is sure, that god will not say anything about it.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Now do I have to say who said that in his book?

Paul

Quit whinning.
Exactly what is written... is and has been happening, so what?

You could have fought it. All you had to do was go to school...

My people seen through that; Fascism and communism and any other lie

coming down the pike.

Even he Hitler was predicted in 1909 or so and many more things.

For you to think there is no God or relationship that's your choice.

I am positive also the atheist view -point based on your kind of hate is worse

than any other, I'm not falling for any political power that has hate.

Comparing Hitlers' primitive Brain with believers is just wrong.

Your buddy started it. There is only one difference between believers and

skeptics, so don't even go there just stop with these lies in comparision you make.

edge · 11th December 2011, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Leumas

Cherry picking again Edge?

Why did you not choose this quote from the link you gave

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. ~Blaise Pascal

In bold you hit that one on the head!

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Quit whinning.
Exactly what is written... is and has been happening, so what?

Yes edge, the killing of people is OK, it was done so many times in the bible.

When the god of the bible doesn't get it's way, the killing begins. That has been it's one sure plan to fix things.............. again and again and again.

Paul

edge · 11th December 2011, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

God's plan......

http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFil...44/1069962.jpg

GOD WITH US.

Nazi Army belt buckle.

Paul

Didn't work for them and it won't for anybody like that, didn't happen then

and probably not in the past.

Paulhoff · 11th December 2011, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Didn't work for them and it won't for anybody like that, didn't happen then

and probably not in the past.

It doesn't matter, all sides say he is on their side, the god of the bible can't lose.

Paul

edge · 11th December 2011, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

Yes edge, the killing of people is OK, it was done so many times in the bible.

When the god of the bible doesn't get it's way, the killing begins. That has been it's one sure plan to fix things.............. again and again and again.

Paul

I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural.

edge · 11th December 2011, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

~~It doesn't matter, all sides say he is on their side~~, the god of the bible can't lose.

Paul

Fixed it. one right, one wrong.

edge · 11th December 2011, 08:17 PM

I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
.

TheRedWorm · 11th December 2011, 08:20 PM

Edge, how do you know that it wasn't Satan behind the bible?

Mudcat · 11th December 2011, 08:39 PM

Anyone notice that Edge's posts are getting less lucid and more personal? At this rate it'll be a Novest level meltdown.

Leumas · 11th December 2011, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by edge

I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
.

Wisdom = Sophia ( σοφία greek) = Khokmah (חוכמה Hebrew) = Sabientia (latin)

All feminine nouns in all three languages.

In fact you might find that in many of the languages that have gendered nouns it is feminine.... e.g. Sabiduría in Spanish.

Also in Greek she is a Goddess.... in Agnosticism too.

In fact in the bible it is almost a goddess too...but it is definitely attributed some kind of entity-like being.

tsig · 11th December 2011, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by edge

I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural.

I thought the OT gave the proofs for Jesus?

devnull · 11th December 2011, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by tsig

I thought the OT gave the proofs for Jesus?

Im also reminded of Tim Minchin's "I love Jesus" song.

MRC_Hans · 12th December 2011, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by edge

I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
.

Edge, I called God and asked about her plans. She said "They are none of your business!". I said, "But that guy Edge says he knows them!". She laughed and said: "Edge doesn't have a clue, don't pay any attention to him".

Hans

Mr. Scott · 12th December 2011, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by edge

I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural.

Jesus himself, according to scripture, supported the O.T. 100%, as explained in this article. Edge, why do you ignore Christ's command to follow O.T. laws?

Quote:

“...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35

dafydd · 12th December 2011, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by edge

I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
.

Respect has to be earned. The farrago of nonsense known as the bible has done nothing to earn my respect,

Paulhoff · 12th December 2011, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Fixed it. one right, one wrong.

Prove a god first, go for it, you'll be the first one.

It still doesn't chance the fact that both sides said the god of the bible was on their side in the war.

Paul

Paulhoff · 12th December 2011, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by edge

I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural.

Salvation, Jesus didn't say anything against the O.T. for one.

Also don't quote anything from the O.T. from now on and just cherry-pick the N.T.

Of course if you don't misquote the O.T., Jesus can't be your savior.

Paul

Mr. Scott · 12th December 2011, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Again what is the point you are trying to make besides insults?

It's not anything I want it to be but it is clarification on what it will be.

I have experienced both sides and one is malevolent and one is benevolent,

that is how you can tell; the encounter ends badly or absolutely holy/good,

with a good outcome with great information.

So, it is the result that tells you if it's good or bad? 20/20 hindsight's not very impressive.

Gee, if I were Satan, I'd give my followers good results. That would fool them. Satan's not powerful enough to trick you with good results? What a pussy.

I, for one, like the Bible fonts on Edge's postings.

That's what Atheists need -- our own character font.

TheRedWorm · 12th December 2011, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Scott

So, it is the result that tells you if it's good or bad? 20/20 hindsight's not very impressive.

Gee, if I were Satan, I'd give my followers good results. That would fool them. Satan's not powerful enough to trick you with good results? What a pussy.

I, for one, like the Bible fonts on Edge's postings.

That's what Atheists need -- our own character font.

Hellvetica.

The Norseman · 12th December 2011, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by TheRedWorm

Hellvetica.

You win six hundred and sixteen internets!

Mr. Scott · 13th December 2011, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by edge

I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
.

Why are you playing the feminist card? The Bible unambiguously treats women as inferior to men in many, many parts we can cherry-pick. What was God's plan when He sent the serpent to tempt Eve?

11th December 2011, 05:04 PM	#441
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge But you implied a lot of bad stuff didn't you? Stop going off topic to suit your argument. I have been trying to let you know it isn’t like you think it is. I don't have to IMPLY, I say it like it is. If you want to read into it more then there is, go for it. And since when are you on the topic. You guys talk as if your so-called god is beyond understanding, and next you start to tell us about it. You don't seem to understand how much it wrong with that thinking and/or lack of thinking. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing Last edited by Paulhoff; 11th December 2011 at 05:15 PM.

11th December 2011, 05:05 PM	#442
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge But you implied a lot of bad stuff didn't you? Yes, the god of the bible is a lot of bad stuff. Why do you support it edge, why? Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 05:09 PM	#443
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Again what is the point you are trying to make besides insults? The god of the bible is an insult. It never has explained anything, nothing about it shows us how anything in reality works. It is nothing but a lazy way out of learning. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing Last edited by Paulhoff; 11th December 2011 at 05:16 PM.

11th December 2011, 05:15 PM	#444
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge It's not anything I want it to be but it is clarification on what it will be. I have experienced both sides and one is malevolent and one is benevolent, that is how you can tell; the encounter ends badly or absolutely holy/good, with a good outcome with great information. It is not a clarification, it only shows me how you think. You have not experienced both sides, stop lying to yourself. Your god of the bible is anything but holy, and has shown this time and time again in the bible. Just look at the story of Adam and Eve. Two people that didn't know good from bad and then are judged as if they did. And your god of the bible makes the so-called children responsible too. That my friend is anything but holy. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 05:18 PM	#445
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff See people, this is what you learn from believing in a so-called god of the bible, people aren't important, only that god is. And in my last post I posted no names. We all have primitive brains edge and knowing this we can adjust our thinking on how and why we think like we do. Edge "without respelling your name" why do you support such a primitive idea of what a god can be, and why do you think you aren't worthy of a much better god. Paul What lies you perpetuate. We the ability to create, to have a sense of justice, intercede when someone is at risk from someone’s crimes, rescue, show mercy, forgive - these alone place him far above the animals, perhaps even the angels. Man is, surprisingly, quite Godly. Furthermore, man has the ability to have a relationship with God. Man has the ability to receive the Holy Spirit - God Himself. Finally, man is destined for immortality, so where do you get that we are not important? Where do you not see a plan for us? the whole thing is about our salvation.
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11th December 2011, 05:19 PM	#446
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Where is yours? You love to insult, is that an example of how you have chosen the right morals through atheism by constantly putting people down to make yourself feel better? Edge, you insult all the time. You are the one that thinks he has seen both sides. Please, stop insulting us. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 05:21 PM	#447
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge these alone place him far above the animals Oh please edge, I'm a vet of a war, don't talk to me about being above the animals. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 05:23 PM	#448
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff Yes, the god of the bible is a lot of bad stuff. Why do you support it edge, why? Paul You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.
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11th December 2011, 05:24 PM	#449
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Finally, man is destined for immortality, so where do you get that we are not important? Where do you not see a plan for us? the whole thing is about our salvation. So you buy into that, I feel sorry for you. As for the salvation, that didn't happen when the church ruled Europe and/or anywhere else. I only took the rights of people away from them and made them into robots and kept us from the stars. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing Last edited by Paulhoff; 11th December 2011 at 05:35 PM.

11th December 2011, 05:25 PM	#450
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure. I can't insult something that isn't edge, the god of the bible isn't and therefore there are no plans. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 05:38 PM	#452
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure. So, because you believe in this god of the bible, I can't say what I think of it. Sorry, that is not how it works. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 05:46 PM	#453
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Anyone can say they speak for the god of the bible and/or any other god. For one thing is sure, that god will not say anything about it. "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." Now do I have to say who said that in his book? Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing Last edited by Paulhoff; 11th December 2011 at 05:50 PM.

11th December 2011, 05:56 PM	#454
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,720	Originally Posted by edge You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure. If someone says something against god you take that as a direct, personal insult?

11th December 2011, 06:57 PM	#455
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff Oh please edge, I'm a vet of a war, don't talk to me about being above the animals. Paul Oh well then we are even. " Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?" ~Holly Near (http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html) So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out?
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11th December 2011, 07:03 PM	#456
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Oh well then we are even. " Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?" ~Holly Near (http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html) So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out? What, did that shoot over your head. People go out of their way to kill others in war and for other things. How does that make us better then animals. And I fell for what system edge, I didn't have the right to vote in the system. It was 21 when I went in, I was 19. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 07:07 PM	#457
Leumas Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,493	Originally Posted by edge Oh well then we are even. " Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?" ~Holly Near (http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html) So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out? Cherry picking again Edge? Why did you not choose this quote from the link you gave Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. ~Blaise Pascal
Leumas Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,493	__________________ "I don't know if God exists, but it would be better for his reputation if he didn't." - Jules Renard "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own." - Thomas Jefferson

11th December 2011, 07:22 PM	#458
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	God's plan...... GOD WITH US. Nazi Army belt buckle. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 07:46 PM	#459
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff Anyone can say they speak for the god of the bible and/or any other god. For one thing is sure, that god will not say anything about it. "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." Now do I have to say who said that in his book? http://nobeliefs.com/images/HitlerGottMitUns.gif Paul Quit whinning. Exactly what is written... is and has been happening, so what? You could have fought it. All you had to do was go to school... My people seen through that; Fascism and communism and any other lie coming down the pike. Even he Hitler was predicted in 1909 or so and many more things. For you to think there is no God or relationship that's your choice. I am positive also the atheist view -point based on your kind of hate is worse than any other, I'm not falling for any political power that has hate. Comparing Hitlers' primitive Brain with believers is just wrong. Your buddy started it. There is only one difference between believers and skeptics, so don't even go there just stop with these lies in comparision you make.
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11th December 2011, 07:50 PM	#460
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Leumas Cherry picking again Edge? Why did you not choose this quote from the link you gave Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. ~Blaise Pascal In bold you hit that one on the head!
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11th December 2011, 07:50 PM	#461
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Quit whinning. Exactly what is written... is and has been happening, so what? Yes edge, the killing of people is OK, it was done so many times in the bible. When the god of the bible doesn't get it's way, the killing begins. That has been it's one sure plan to fix things.............. again and again and again. Paul
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11th December 2011, 07:52 PM	#462
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff God's plan...... http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFil...44/1069962.jpg GOD WITH US. Nazi Army belt buckle. Paul Didn't work for them and it won't for anybody like that, didn't happen then and probably not in the past.
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11th December 2011, 07:55 PM	#463
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Didn't work for them and it won't for anybody like that, didn't happen then and probably not in the past. It doesn't matter, all sides say he is on their side, the god of the bible can't lose. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing

11th December 2011, 08:11 PM	#464
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff Yes edge, the killing of people is OK, it was done so many times in the bible. When the god of the bible doesn't get it's way, the killing begins. That has been it's one sure plan to fix things.............. again and again and again. Paul I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation and mostly cultural.
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11th December 2011, 08:13 PM	#465
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff ~~It doesn't matter, all sides say he is on their side~~, the god of the bible can't lose. Paul Fixed it. one right, one wrong.
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11th December 2011, 08:17 PM	#466
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect! .
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11th December 2011, 08:20 PM	#467
TheRedWorm I AM the Red Worm! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Body: Michigan, Heart: Chicago Posts: 3,886	Edge, how do you know that it wasn't Satan behind the bible?
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11th December 2011, 08:39 PM	#468
Mudcat Man of a Thousand Memes Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,681	Anyone notice that Edge's posts are getting less lucid and more personal? At this rate it'll be a Novest level meltdown.
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11th December 2011, 08:40 PM	#469
Leumas Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,493	Originally Posted by edge I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect! . Wisdom = Sophia ( σοφία greek) = Khokmah (חוכמה Hebrew) = Sabientia (latin) All feminine nouns in all three languages. In fact you might find that in many of the languages that have gendered nouns it is feminine.... e.g. Sabiduría in Spanish. Also in Greek she is a Goddess.... in Agnosticism too. In fact in the bible it is almost a goddess too...but it is definitely attributed some kind of entity-like being.
Leumas Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,493	__________________ "I don't know if God exists, but it would be better for his reputation if he didn't." - Jules Renard "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own." - Thomas Jefferson Last edited by Leumas; 11th December 2011 at 08:46 PM.

11th December 2011, 08:51 PM	#470
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,720	Originally Posted by edge I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation and mostly cultural. I thought the OT gave the proofs for Jesus?

11th December 2011, 11:00 PM	#471
devnull Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,532	Originally Posted by tsig I thought the OT gave the proofs for Jesus? Im also reminded of Tim Minchin's "I love Jesus" song.
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12th December 2011, 04:48 AM	#472
MRC_Hans Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Whithin earshot of the North Sea Posts: 16,600	Originally Posted by edge I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect! . Edge, I called God and asked about her plans. She said "They are none of your business!". I said, "But that guy Edge says he knows them!". She laughed and said: "Edge doesn't have a clue, don't pay any attention to him". Hans
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12th December 2011, 05:25 AM	#473
Mr. Scott Under the Amazing One's Wing Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,275	Originally Posted by edge I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation and mostly cultural. Jesus himself, according to scripture, supported the O.T. 100%, as explained in this article. Edge, why do you ignore Christ's command to follow O.T. laws? Quote: “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
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12th December 2011, 05:29 AM	#474
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,452	Originally Posted by edge I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect! . Respect has to be earned. The farrago of nonsense known as the bible has done nothing to earn my respect,
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12th December 2011, 05:58 AM	#475
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Fixed it. one right, one wrong. Prove a god first, go for it, you'll be the first one. It still doesn't chance the fact that both sides said the god of the bible was on their side in the war. Paul
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12th December 2011, 06:09 AM	#476
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation and mostly cultural. Salvation, Jesus didn't say anything against the O.T. for one. Also don't quote anything from the O.T. from now on and just cherry-pick the N.T. Of course if you don't misquote the O.T., Jesus can't be your savior. Paul
	__________________ For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing