The plans of God - Page 40

joobz · 24th May 2012, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Read the links I posted.

I did
I saw nothing about how it violates god's plan.

Similarly, I saw nothing explaining why god let's children suffer.

Paulhoff · 24th May 2012, 07:18 PM

When one is scared of the big bad daddy in the sky, one never says bad thing about him.

Paul

Filippo Lippi · 25th May 2012, 08:46 AM

edge's inability to dowse is clearly part of god's plan and is, therefore, clearly germane to this thread

Rincewind · 25th May 2012, 09:22 AM

I don't understand how - if a God designs a plan - puny humans could have any effect on it whatsoever...

edge · 28th May 2012, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by joobz

I did
I saw nothing about how it violates god's plan.

Similarly, I saw nothing explaining why god let's children suffer.

It is their control over what we eat that they have hidden from the labels on food products that disables our freewill through political trickery and cohesion/greed.
There turning our food into crack...Less and less nutritional value do you like todays tomatoes?
We are never satisfied and eat more and more while the obesity rates increase.
Keeps putting money in their pockets doesn't it and on many levels?
In yellow: People die so they don't suffer anymore.

Does it taste good? Sure we are going to try it but what is the end result, tastes like crap doesn't it?

edge · 28th May 2012, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Rincewind

I don't understand how - if a God designs a plan - puny humans could have any effect on it whatsoever...

All we can do is improve on it by becoming more morally correct and treat each other with only kindness. If we could all get on that same page then nothing would make anyone suffer, that is the ultimate plan.

GeeMack · 28th May 2012, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by edge

All we can do is improve on it by becoming more morally correct and treat each other with only kindness. If we could all get on that same page then nothing would make anyone suffer.

Sounds like your god is a pussy.

DrDave · 28th May 2012, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

We have far more important things to deal with down here.

http://www.yvonneclaireadams.com/Hos...erdingCats.jpg

Problems with EDS I take it?

Akhenaten · 28th May 2012, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by DrDave

Problems with EDS I take it?

Well, that and the uprising in Ponylandistan. It's causing a lot of unrest across the board.

I'll bet God never saw this coming.

joobz · 28th May 2012, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by edge

It is their control over what we eat that they have hidden from the labels on food products that disables our freewill through political trickery and cohesion/greed.

So what part of this means god doesn't let children suffer?

tsig · 28th May 2012, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by edge

It is their control over what we eat that they have hidden from the labels on food products that disables our freewill through political trickery and cohesion/greed.
There turning our food into crack...Less and less nutritional value do you like todays tomatoes?
We are never satisfied and eat more and more while the obesity rates increase.
Keeps putting money in their pockets doesn't it and on many levels?
In yellow: People die so they don't suffer anymore.

Does it taste good? Sure we are going to try it but what is the end result, tastes like crap doesn't it?

If being dead is better than living why was any of us born?

joobz · 28th May 2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by tsig

If being dead is better than living why was any of us born?

Using Edge's reasoning, God let's children suffer so he can put them out of their misery by killing them..

Akhenaten · 28th May 2012, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by joobz

Using Edge's reasoning, God let's children suffer so he can put them out of their misery by killing them..

Which is chillingly similar to DOCs claim that children are better off dead non-Christian.

Paulhoff · 28th May 2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by GeeMack

Sounds like your god is a pussy.

He is, he kills babies.

Paul

edge · 29th May 2012, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

He is, he kills babies.

Paul

What else are you going to claim?
Where's the proof, the smoking gun?
Does he take out adults too?

dafydd · 29th May 2012, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by edge

What else are you going to claim?
Where's the proof, the smoking gun?
Does he take out adults too?

Yes, he behaves sadistically towards everyone, regardless of age. Why do you worship such an evil creature?

edge · 29th May 2012, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by joobz

So what part of this means god doesn't let children suffer?

Again who does this, men or God, is god working for the FDA?
Does God work for Monsanto, Oh he's the president of the company right?
But it’s not the beast who controls what we buy sell or eat, the definition of the beast, ( the system)?

edge · 29th May 2012, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Yes, he behaves sadistically towards everyone, regardless of age. Why do you worship such an evil creature?

Why do you lie? Everyone?

Filippo Lippi · 29th May 2012, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by edge

What else are you going to claim?
Where's the proof, the smoking gun?
Does he take out adults too?

Where's the proof for your claims, edge?

It is ephemeral as the dowser's ability to find gold coins when in the presence of encyclopedias

Akhenaten · 29th May 2012, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

He is, he kills babies.

Paul

[i][color="DarkRed"]What else are you going to claim?

2 Kings 2:23-24

²³ And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

²⁴ And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

Originally Posted by edge

Where's the proof, the smoking gun?

In your stupid bronze age book of horror stories.

Originally Posted by edge

Does he take out adults too?

Almost constantly.

Akhenaten · 29th May 2012, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Originally Posted by dafydd

Yes, he behaves sadistically towards everyone, regardless of age. Why do you worship such an evil creature?

[i][color="DarkRed"]
Why do you lie? Everyone?

What's Genesis 7 about, edge?

dafydd · 29th May 2012, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Why do you lie? Everyone?

In your bible your god is always behaving homicidally. Even nowadays he is still killing people with all sorts of horrible diseases, accidents and natural disasters. This is no lie. Why do you worship this psychopath?

Paulhoff · 29th May 2012, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by edge

What else are you going to claim?
Where's the proof, the smoking gun?
Does he take out adults too?

Your bible's flood for one, all the cities that he told his people to kill every man woman CHILD, that includes babies and also the first born of Egypt. Yes, need we say more, men teens children and babies all kill by you loving god, his solution for everything, death.

Paul

dafydd · 29th May 2012, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Paulhoff

Your bible's flood for one, all the cities that he told his people to kill every man woman CHILD, that includes babies and also the first born of Egypt. Yes, need we say more, men teens children and babies all kill by you loving god, his solution for everything, death.

Paul

I think that edge knows that the bible is fiction.

edge · 31st May 2012, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

What's Genesis 7 about, edge?

It's about an event that occurred 13,000 thousand-years-ago.
It's the nearest catastrophic event that can be somewhat verified with substantial proof with major extinctions.
Since they didn't write about it till about 3,000 years ago, I would say that there was much cultural bias that attached to this story over time.
Did God warn a Hebrew named Noah about that event?
Probably since their line of generations is what the beginning of the O.T. was about.
The question is did God cause this event?
I would have to have more proof so I would say it's a cultural story of a real event that was enhanced.
It is the same today as it was back then; God is on the side of a winner as president Bush proved and demonstrated in Church.

joobz · 31st May 2012, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Again who does this, men or God, is god working for the FDA?
Does God work for Monsanto, Oh he's the president of the company right?
But it’s not the beast who controls what we buy sell or eat, the definition of the beast, ( the system)?

I understand now. Everything good is part of gods plan.
Everything bad is mans fault and goes against gods plan.

disease is clearly good because man didnt create disease.
Cancer is bad because man invented cancer.

dafydd · 31st May 2012, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by edge

It's about an event that occurred 13,000 thousand-years-ago.
It's the nearest catastrophic event that can be somewhat verified with substantial proof with major extinctions.
Since they didn't write about it till about 3,000 years ago, I would say that there was much cultural bias that attached to this story over time.
Did God warn a Hebrew named Noah about that event?
Probably since their line of generations is what the beginning of the O.T. was about.
The question is did God cause this event?
I would have to have more proof so I would say it's a cultural story of a real event that was enhanced.
It is the same today as it was back then; God is on the side of a winner as president Bush proved and demonstrated in Church.

??????????

Akhenaten · 31st May 2012, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

??????????

I think what he was trying to say was, "I have no idea."

dafydd · 31st May 2012, 05:57 AM

Judging by god's plans up to date I wouldn't trust god to plan an orgy in a brothel.

Akhenaten · 31st May 2012, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

What's Genesis 7 about, edge?

[i][color="DarkRed"]

<gibberish>

Nothing to say about the verses from 2 Kings?

edge · 31st May 2012, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

2 Kings 2:23-24

²³ And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

²⁴ And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

In your stupid bronze age book of horror stories.

Almost constantly.

Sounds like a coincident to me, two female bears probably with cubs, nothing new here.
Are there even bears where this happened?

Filippo Lippi · 31st May 2012, 06:14 AM

So you think the bible lied about this happening?

Multivac · 31st May 2012, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

A broken record cannot be played.

But it can be imagined in the same way as the sound of one hand clapping.

Paulhoff · 31st May 2012, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Sounds like a coincident to me, two female bears probably with cubs, nothing new here.
Are there even bears where this happened?

There is nothing about cubs. It was about your loving god having bears kill 42 youths because they made fun of a man.

Again and again your god of the bible only knows killing, I see nothing godlike about him.

Paul

Multivac · 31st May 2012, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

I guess it depends on how Gene gets manipulated.

And whether or not he enjoys it.

Akhenaten · 31st May 2012, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Filippo Lippi

So you think the bible lied about this happening?

Apparently that's exactly what he thinks.

Akhenaten · 31st May 2012, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by edge

[i][color="DarkRed"]Sounds like a coincident to me, two female bears probably with cubs, nothing new here.

What's new is that your story is nothing like the one in the Bible.

Although now that I come to think of it, that's not new at all.

Originally Posted by edge

Are there even bears where this happened?

You've just claimed that it was "two female bears probably with cubs" and now you're asking if there could have been any bears about the place at all?

joobz · 31st May 2012, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by edge

Sounds like a coincident to me, two female bears probably with cubs, nothing new here.
Are there even bears where this happened?

Everything good is god's fault.
Everything bad is man's
Those bears were created by men to kill kids.
This is against god's plan.

The Norseman · 1st June 2012, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by edge

Sounds like a coincident to me, two female bears probably with cubs, nothing new here.
Are there even bears where this happened?

This is one of the most unintentionally funny thing said on JREF in a long time.

"Oh, yes, just a few bears with their cubs which managed to tear 42 children into bloody ribbons. Nothing new here; happens all the time, really. It was just a simple coincidence that an old bald-headed man that was being taunted by those very same children who were cursed in THE LORD'S name just so happened on the scene. Shame, but hey, all those kids are now with THE LORD so it's all good! Hey, we don't even know if bears live around there, but that's okay. Purest coincidence. Nothing to do with THE LORD. Let's all ~~prey~~ pray now!"

devnull · 1st June 2012, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by edge

It's about an event that occurred 13,000 thousand-years-ago.
It's the nearest catastrophic event that can be somewhat verified with substantial proof with major extinctions.
Since they didn't write about it till about 3,000 years ago, I would say that there was much cultural bias that attached to this story over time.
Did God warn a Hebrew named Noah about that event?
Probably since their line of generations is what the beginning of the O.T. was about.
The question is did God cause this event?
I would have to have more proof so I would say it's a cultural story of a real event that was enhanced.
It is the same today as it was back then; God is on the side of a winner as president Bush proved and demonstrated in Church.

My missus and I are literally shaking with laughter over this one......

Maybe god didnt cause the flood? BAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA

24th May 2012, 07:15 PM	#1561
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,496	Originally Posted by edge Read the links I posted. I did I saw nothing about how it violates god's plan. Similarly, I saw nothing explaining why god let's children suffer.
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24th May 2012, 07:18 PM	#1562
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	When one is scared of the big bad daddy in the sky, one never says bad thing about him. Paul
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25th May 2012, 08:46 AM	#1563
Filippo Lippi Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1,576	edge's inability to dowse is clearly part of god's plan and is, therefore, clearly germane to this thread
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28th May 2012, 05:29 AM	#1566
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Rincewind I don't understand how - if a God designs a plan - puny humans could have any effect on it whatsoever... All we can do is improve on it by becoming more morally correct and treat each other with only kindness. If we could all get on that same page then nothing would make anyone suffer, that is the ultimate plan.
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28th May 2012, 06:42 AM	#1569
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,656	Originally Posted by DrDave Problems with EDS I take it? Well, that and the uprising in Ponylandistan. It's causing a lot of unrest across the board. I'll bet God never saw this coming.
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25th May 2012, 09:22 AM	#1564
Rincewind Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,161	I don't understand how - if a God designs a plan - puny humans could have any effect on it whatsoever...

28th May 2012, 05:34 AM	#1567
GeeMack Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Not Bandiagara Posts: 7,175	Originally Posted by edge All we can do is improve on it by becoming more morally correct and treat each other with only kindness. If we could all get on that same page then nothing would make anyone suffer. Sounds like your god is a pussy.

28th May 2012, 06:38 AM	#1568
DrDave Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 3,110	Originally Posted by Akhenaten We have far more important things to deal with down here. http://www.yvonneclaireadams.com/Hos...erdingCats.jpg Problems with EDS I take it?

28th May 2012, 08:43 AM	#1570
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,496	Originally Posted by edge It is their control over what we eat that they have hidden from the labels on food products that disables our freewill through political trickery and cohesion/greed. So what part of this means god doesn't let children suffer?
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28th May 2012, 09:45 AM	#1571
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,744	Originally Posted by edge It is their control over what we eat that they have hidden from the labels on food products that disables our freewill through political trickery and cohesion/greed. There turning our food into crack...Less and less nutritional value do you like todays tomatoes? We are never satisfied and eat more and more while the obesity rates increase. Keeps putting money in their pockets doesn't it and on many levels? In yellow: People die so they don't suffer anymore. Does it taste good? Sure we are going to try it but what is the end result, tastes like crap doesn't it? If being dead is better than living why was any of us born?

28th May 2012, 09:50 AM	#1572
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,496	Originally Posted by tsig If being dead is better than living why was any of us born? Using Edge's reasoning, God let's children suffer so he can put them out of their misery by killing them..
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28th May 2012, 09:58 AM	#1573
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,656	Originally Posted by joobz Using Edge's reasoning, God let's children suffer so he can put them out of their misery by killing them.. Which is chillingly similar to DOCs claim that children are better off dead non-Christian.
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28th May 2012, 12:56 PM	#1574
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by GeeMack Sounds like your god is a pussy. He is, he kills babies. Paul
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29th May 2012, 05:00 AM	#1575
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Paulhoff He is, he kills babies. Paul What else are you going to claim? Where's the proof, the smoking gun? Does he take out adults too?
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29th May 2012, 05:04 AM	#1576
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,459	Originally Posted by edge What else are you going to claim? Where's the proof, the smoking gun? Does he take out adults too? Yes, he behaves sadistically towards everyone, regardless of age. Why do you worship such an evil creature?
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29th May 2012, 05:06 AM	#1577
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by joobz So what part of this means god doesn't let children suffer? Again who does this, men or God, is god working for the FDA? Does God work for Monsanto, Oh he's the president of the company right? But it’s not the beast who controls what we buy sell or eat, the definition of the beast, ( the system)?
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29th May 2012, 05:07 AM	#1578
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by dafydd Yes, he behaves sadistically towards everyone, regardless of age. Why do you worship such an evil creature? Why do you lie? Everyone?
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29th May 2012, 05:09 AM	#1579
Filippo Lippi Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1,576	Originally Posted by edge What else are you going to claim? Where's the proof, the smoking gun? Does he take out adults too? Where's the proof for your claims, edge? It is ephemeral as the dowser's ability to find gold coins when in the presence of encyclopedias
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29th May 2012, 05:21 AM	#1580
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,656	Originally Posted by edge Originally Posted by Paulhoff He is, he kills babies. Paul [i][color="DarkRed"]What else are you going to claim? 2 Kings 2:23-24 ²³ And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. ²⁴ And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. Originally Posted by edge Where's the proof, the smoking gun? In your stupid bronze age book of horror stories. Originally Posted by edge Does he take out adults too? Almost constantly.
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29th May 2012, 05:27 AM	#1581
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,656	Originally Posted by edge Originally Posted by dafydd Yes, he behaves sadistically towards everyone, regardless of age. Why do you worship such an evil creature? [i][color="DarkRed"] Why do you lie? Everyone? What's Genesis 7 about, edge?
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29th May 2012, 06:01 AM	#1582
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,459	Originally Posted by edge Why do you lie? Everyone? In your bible your god is always behaving homicidally. Even nowadays he is still killing people with all sorts of horrible diseases, accidents and natural disasters. This is no lie. Why do you worship this psychopath?
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29th May 2012, 06:13 AM	#1583
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge What else are you going to claim? Where's the proof, the smoking gun? Does he take out adults too? Your bible's flood for one, all the cities that he told his people to kill every man woman CHILD, that includes babies and also the first born of Egypt. Yes, need we say more, men teens children and babies all kill by you loving god, his solution for everything, death. Paul
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29th May 2012, 06:32 AM	#1584
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,459	Originally Posted by Paulhoff Your bible's flood for one, all the cities that he told his people to kill every man woman CHILD, that includes babies and also the first born of Egypt. Yes, need we say more, men teens children and babies all kill by you loving god, his solution for everything, death. Paul I think that edge knows that the bible is fiction.
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31st May 2012, 05:32 AM	#1585
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Akhenaten What's Genesis 7 about, edge? It's about an event that occurred 13,000 thousand-years-ago. It's the nearest catastrophic event that can be somewhat verified with substantial proof with major extinctions. Since they didn't write about it till about 3,000 years ago, I would say that there was much cultural bias that attached to this story over time. Did God warn a Hebrew named Noah about that event? Probably since their line of generations is what the beginning of the O.T. was about. The question is did God cause this event? I would have to have more proof so I would say it's a cultural story of a real event that was enhanced. It is the same today as it was back then; God is on the side of a winner as president Bush proved and demonstrated in Church.
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31st May 2012, 05:42 AM	#1586
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,496	Originally Posted by edge Again who does this, men or God, is god working for the FDA? Does God work for Monsanto, Oh he's the president of the company right? But it’s not the beast who controls what we buy sell or eat, the definition of the beast, ( the system)? I understand now. Everything good is part of gods plan. Everything bad is mans fault and goes against gods plan. disease is clearly good because man didnt create disease. Cancer is bad because man invented cancer.
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31st May 2012, 05:43 AM	#1587
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,459	Originally Posted by edge It's about an event that occurred 13,000 thousand-years-ago. It's the nearest catastrophic event that can be somewhat verified with substantial proof with major extinctions. Since they didn't write about it till about 3,000 years ago, I would say that there was much cultural bias that attached to this story over time. Did God warn a Hebrew named Noah about that event? Probably since their line of generations is what the beginning of the O.T. was about. The question is did God cause this event? I would have to have more proof so I would say it's a cultural story of a real event that was enhanced. It is the same today as it was back then; God is on the side of a winner as president Bush proved and demonstrated in Church. ??????????
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31st May 2012, 05:53 AM	#1588
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,656	Originally Posted by dafydd ?????????? I think what he was trying to say was, "I have no idea."
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31st May 2012, 05:57 AM	#1589
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,459	Judging by god's plans up to date I wouldn't trust god to plan an orgy in a brothel.
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31st May 2012, 05:57 AM	#1590
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,656	Originally Posted by edge Originally Posted by Akhenaten What's Genesis 7 about, edge? [i][color="DarkRed"] <gibberish> Nothing to say about the verses from 2 Kings?
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31st May 2012, 06:06 AM	#1591
edge Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where my two best friends are, in here now. Posts: 5,247	Originally Posted by Akhenaten 2 Kings 2:23-24 ²³ And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. ²⁴ And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. In your stupid bronze age book of horror stories. Almost constantly. Sounds like a coincident to me, two female bears probably with cubs, nothing new here. Are there even bears where this happened?
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31st May 2012, 06:14 AM	#1592
Filippo Lippi Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1,576	So you think the bible lied about this happening?
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31st May 2012, 06:14 AM	#1593
Multivac Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,927	Originally Posted by dafydd A broken record cannot be played. But it can be imagined in the same way as the sound of one hand clapping.

31st May 2012, 06:18 AM	#1594
Paulhoff You can't expect perfection. Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 12,570	Originally Posted by edge Sounds like a coincident to me, two female bears probably with cubs, nothing new here. Are there even bears where this happened? There is nothing about cubs. It was about your loving god having bears kill 42 youths because they made fun of a man. Again and again your god of the bible only knows killing, I see nothing godlike about him. Paul
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31st May 2012, 06:18 AM	#1595
Multivac Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,927	Originally Posted by Elizabeth I I guess it depends on how Gene gets manipulated. And whether or not he enjoys it.
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31st May 2012, 06:28 AM	#1596
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,656	Originally Posted by Filippo Lippi So you think the bible lied about this happening? Apparently that's exactly what he thinks.
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