Can Jesus Inspire Science?

epix · 20th December 2011, 02:41 AM

Yes. Some of his antics did come to the attention of a few scientists who, for some reason, decided to do a bit of cautious debunking. But apart from that, there maybe cases of inspiration which are scientifically too esoteric to come across easily. Here is an example in Wikipedia:

Quote:

The Bond number is a measure of the importance of surface tension forces compared to body forces. A high Bond number indicates that the system is relatively unaffected by surface tension effects; a low number (typically less than one is the requirement) indicates that surface tension dominates. Intermediate numbers indicate a non-trivial balance between the two effects.

One over the Bond Number, ie. 1 / Bo is sometimes referred to as the Jesus number, Je, since bodies can walk on water if they have a large Jesus number, that is if Je > > 1.

The Bond number is the most common comparison of gravity and surface tension effects and it may be derived in a number of ways, such as scaling the pressure of a drop of liquid on a solid surface. It is usually important, however, to find the right length scale specific to a problem by doing a ground-up scale analysis. Other dimensionless numbers are related to the Bond number:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_number

Does anyone know about other examples like that? Any contribution would be very welcome.

(As far as the Bond number is concerned, that's easy to remember.)

dafydd · 20th December 2011, 02:50 AM

Calling the Bond number the Jesus number is something called irony.

P.J. Denyer · 20th December 2011, 03:06 AM

Walking on water is trivial compared to allowing life in the universe i.e. The Goldilocks Principal

Therefore

Goldilocks >> Jesus

zooterkin · 20th December 2011, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by epix

Yes. Some of his antics did come to the attention of a few scientists who, for some reason, decided to do a bit of cautious debunking. But apart from that, there maybe cases of inspiration which are scientifically too esoteric to come across easily. Here is an example in Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_number

How is that an example of inspiring science? All it seems to be is scientists making a joke.

maggot9779 · 20th December 2011, 03:30 AM

<--The example.

<--Your head.

HansMustermann · 20th December 2011, 03:43 AM

I dunno, as scientists and other people naming stuff after fairy tales go, we also have the already mentioned Goldilocks principle, and for that matter Goldilocks economy and several unrelated Goldilocks numbers, the principle of Rumpelstiltskin (no, seriously), the Cinderella complex, etc. So, yeah, Jesus too can have his name taken in vain to give a joke name to something.

Multivac · 20th December 2011, 04:37 AM

What is so inspiring about being nailed to a tree?

Aepervius · 20th December 2011, 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

How is that an example of inspiring science? All it seems to be is scientists making a joke.

indeed like the hunt for the "god" particle, and i am sure many others.

geni · 20th December 2011, 05:01 AM

There is a theological argument that since god created the ~~Earth~~ universe you can learn about god by studding it thus the requirement to do science. Throw in quite a few vicars having a reasonable amount of free time and you get a lot of botany and the like out of the CofE.

Gawdzilla · 20th December 2011, 05:05 AM

My name's Bond, Jesus Bond.

AvalonXQ · 20th December 2011, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer

Walking on water is trivial compared to allowing life in the universe i.e. The Goldilocks Principal

Therefore

Goldilocks >> Jesus

Therefore Goldilocks can walk on water.

Wildy · 20th December 2011, 05:29 AM

Well clearly Superman has also inspired science. I'm going to post the "Induction" section about the Arabidopsis thaliana locusAT3G23130 or 'SUPERMAN':

Originally Posted by AT3G23130, Induction

Repressed by KRYPTONITE/SUVH4, member of the histone H3-K9 methyltransferase family that contributes with other factors to the CpNpG methylation of the SUP gene resulting in its silencing. The alternative epigenetic states of the SUPERMAN locus have been called Clark Kent alleles. Positively regulated at an early stage of development by LEAFY and by B class homeotic proteins APETALA3 and PISTILLATA. Later expression is maintained by both the B class homeotic proteins and the C class homeotic protein AGAMOUS. These two steps of regulation require the intervention of additional factors.

P.J. Denyer · 20th December 2011, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by AvalonXQ

Therefore Goldilocks can walk on water.

Which means she weighs the same as a duck!

the PC apeman · 20th December 2011, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by AvalonXQ

Therefore Goldilocks can walk on water.

She's a witch! Burn her!

ETA: D'Oh! P.J. Beat me to it.

Bikewer · 20th December 2011, 05:57 AM

There is, after all, an entire sect of "Christ, Scientist"... Dunno how many test tubes they use in their services...

P.J. Denyer · 20th December 2011, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by the PC apeman

She's a witch! Burn her!

ETA: D'Oh! P.J. Beat me to it.

Just as well, if you'd beaten me to it I'd have turned you into a newt!

Dave Rogers · 20th December 2011, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by epix

Does anyone know about other examples like that?

I wouldn't know, I'm not much of a Jesus nut.

Dave

AvalonXQ · 20th December 2011, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

I wouldn't know, I'm not much of a Jesus nut.

Dave

Hmmm...

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Some more recent helicopter systems do not have a Jesus nut.

Atheist helicopters?! What's the world coming to?

Dinwar · 20th December 2011, 08:58 AM

I know of species who's names are hillarious puns (well, hillarious after you've been reading nothing but taxonomic decriptions for six weeks). You can tell, reading the name, that the guy naming the things was bored, and was trying to see what he could get past the taxonomists. Calling something the Jesus Number because it allows something to walk on water is right in line with that.

In other words, scientists like to have a little fun. It's nothing to do with inspiration, but rather a reference to a well-known story (true or not [and I say not] it's still a story).

dafydd · 20th December 2011, 09:04 AM

Jesus couldn't walk on the water after the crucifixion. The holes in the feet.

Brattus · 20th December 2011, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Jesus couldn't walk on the water after the crucifixion. The holes in the feet.

I don't get it.

7th sextile · 20th December 2011, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by AvalonXQ

Hmmm...

Atheist helicopters?! What's the world coming to?

Its senses?

Explorer · 20th December 2011, 12:32 PM

The answer to the thread question is an absolute "No". Move on to the next, and more meaningful and entertaining thread.

dafydd · 20th December 2011, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Brattus

I don't get it.

I'll give you the whole thing. After the crucifixion the disciples were drowning their sorrows at the inn. The door opens and in walks Jesus.
'Here I am lads, back from the dead''
Doubting Thomas says
'You're not Jesus.'
'Yes I am.'
'If you're Jesus, do a miracle for us'
'Ok, I'll walk on the water again'
They go outside and heave Jesus up onto a full rain barrel, they let him go and he sinks down.
Thomas says
'See, I said you weren't Jesus.'
'Have you tried it with these holes in your feet?'

epix · 20th December 2011, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

I wouldn't know, I'm not much of a Jesus nut.

Dave

Ahahahaha . . .

Cardinal, the pope-mobile won't be available until after the Ash Wednesday when the shop will have replaced the old Jesus nut.

But I thought that it's up to Our Father in the Heavens to make changes in the papacy.

I really wonder where the inspiration to "edit" a part of the article on Bond number in Wiki came from. That surely deserves a second look . . .

Quote:

One over the Bond Number, ie. 1 / Bo is sometimes referred to as the Jesus number, Je, since bodies can walk on water if they have a large Jesus number, that is if Je > > 1.

The Bond number is the most common comparison of gravity and surface tension effects and it may be derived in a number of ways, such as scaling the pressure of a drop of liquid on a solid surface. It is usually important, however, to find the right length scale specific to a problem by doing a ground-up scale analysis. Other dimensionless numbers are related to the Bond number:

Bo = Eo = 2Go² = 2De²

Where Eo, Go, and De are respectively the Eötvös, Goucher, and Deryagin numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C3%B6tv%C3%B6s_number
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Wolrab · 20th December 2011, 03:15 PM

I heard it as:
Moses and Jesus were playing a round of golf. Both hit their balls into the water. Moses walks over, strikes his club on the ground, the pond water parts, he walks out and chips the ball onto the green. The waters come back together and Moses gloats,"I still got it!"

Jesus smiles and walks to the waters edge. He takes a step or two into the pond, hits a deep spot and goes under.

Moses parts the water and drags a spitting and sputtering Jesus back to shore.

Jesus says,"I don't get it. I used to walk on water all the time"

Moses points down and says,"That was before the nail holes!"

Mudcat · 20th December 2011, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Epix Fail

Bo = Eo = 2Go2 = 2De2

Taking confirmation bias a bit far today Epix Fail?

dafydd · 20th December 2011, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Wolrab

I heard it as:
Moses and Jesus were playing a round of golf. Both hit their balls into the water. Moses walks over, strikes his club on the ground, the pond water parts, he walks out and chips the ball onto the green. The waters come back together and Moses gloats,"I still got it!"

Jesus smiles and walks to the waters edge. He takes a step or two into the pond, hits a deep spot and goes under.

Moses parts the water and drags a spitting and sputtering Jesus back to shore.

Jesus says,"I don't get it. I used to walk on water all the time"

Moses points down and says,"That was before the nail holes!"

I could tell you the one about Jesus on honeymoon but I'd get myself banned.

Minoosh · 20th December 2011, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by geni

There is a theological argument that since god created the ~~Earth~~ universe you can learn about god by studding it thus the requirement to do science. Throw in quite a few vicars having a reasonable amount of free time and you get a lot of botany and the like out of the CofE.

I always think of C&E as a fairly abstract sort of Christianity without much in the way of literal belief required ... but then there's a range I'm sure.

devnull · 20th December 2011, 06:44 PM

I dunno if anybody has mentioned it yet (I havent read all of the thread), but in Australia the hand rail/bar in the car above the window is commonly referred to as a "Jesus bar".

Mainly because when you grab hold of it, you're usually screaming "JESSSSUUUSSSS!!!!!!!"

the PC apeman · 20th December 2011, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by devnull

I dunno if anybody has mentioned it yet (I havent read all of the thread), but in Australia the hand rail/bar in the car above the window is commonly referred to as a "Jesus bar".

Mainly because when you grab hold of it, you're usually screaming "JESSSSUUUSSSS!!!!!!!"

Old Jeep CJ's (maybe new ones too, IDK) had a handle on the dashboard in front of the passenger similarly named the "JC bar". My crazed door-less, roof-less, off-road driving regularly confirmed its function and name. Man I miss that old pile of rust.

In architecture school, we were told the technical name given to a very impressive amount of open interior volume (such as an atrium) was "JC space" - when one walked into it the first reaction was... well, you know.

Ron_Tomkins · 20th December 2011, 11:14 PM

Yes, even imaginary beings for which there is no evidence of their existence, can inspire science. Human beings can find inspiration for anything in anything, so this is not something to be amazed of.

yomero · 21st December 2011, 01:26 AM

The Jesus Christ lizard from Costa Rica: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45yabrnryXk

SezMe · 21st December 2011, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Calling the Bond number the Jesus number is something called irony.

[Nit]Actually, according to the OP, the Jesus number is the inverse of the Bond number.[/Nit]
You got it upside down.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 02:58 AM

In Wales sandals are called Jesus daps.

ponderingturtle · 21st December 2011, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer

Which means she weighs the same as a duck!

And jesus was made of wood, which makes the crucifixion the one act of carpentry attributed to him.

epix · 21st December 2011, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Ron_Tomkins

Yes, even imaginary beings for which there is no evidence of their existence, can inspire science. Human beings can find inspiration for anything in anything, so this is not something to be amazed of.

The well-known case is the evolution theory. The Christians have the opportunity to see some of the amazing creatures in a fancy 3D computer graphic rendition, but there is no physical trace of them. Even though most of the Christians are familiar with the meaning of "theory" as science use it, they frown on the analogous "Jesus theory," even though theology and evolutionary science can and is taught under one university roof.

joobz · 21st December 2011, 01:16 PM

Jesus can inspire science, just as much as Jesus can inspire infidelity, charity and homosexuality.

It's all in a matter of how you wish to take it.

cwalner · 21st December 2011, 01:26 PM

With all the Python references being thrown about, I thought I should bring up the INDY gene

Quote:

Indy, short for I'm not dead yet, is a gene of the model organism, the fruitfly Drosophila melanogaster. Mutant versions of this gene doubles the fruitflies' average life span (this is subject to controversy).[1] Its name originates from a repeated comic line in Monty Python and the Holy Grail[2]

epix · 21st December 2011, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

In Wales sandals are called Jesus daps.

Do they have holes in them?

20th December 2011, 02:41 AM	#1
epix Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Borgia Apartment, Vatican City Posts: 2,957	Can Jesus Inspire Science? Yes. Some of his antics did come to the attention of a few scientists who, for some reason, decided to do a bit of cautious debunking. But apart from that, there maybe cases of inspiration which are scientifically too esoteric to come across easily. Here is an example in Wikipedia: Quote: The Bond number is a measure of the importance of surface tension forces compared to body forces. A high Bond number indicates that the system is relatively unaffected by surface tension effects; a low number (typically less than one is the requirement) indicates that surface tension dominates. Intermediate numbers indicate a non-trivial balance between the two effects. One over the Bond Number, ie. 1 / Bo is sometimes referred to as the Jesus number, Je, since bodies can walk on water if they have a large Jesus number, that is if Je > > 1. The Bond number is the most common comparison of gravity and surface tension effects and it may be derived in a number of ways, such as scaling the pressure of a drop of liquid on a solid surface. It is usually important, however, to find the right length scale specific to a problem by doing a ground-up scale analysis. Other dimensionless numbers are related to the Bond number: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_number Does anyone know about other examples like that? Any contribution would be very welcome. (As far as the Bond number is concerned, that's easy to remember.)
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20th December 2011, 02:50 AM	#2
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20th December 2011, 03:18 AM	#4
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,622	Originally Posted by epix Yes. Some of his antics did come to the attention of a few scientists who, for some reason, decided to do a bit of cautious debunking. But apart from that, there maybe cases of inspiration which are scientifically too esoteric to come across easily. Here is an example in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_number How is that an example of inspiring science? All it seems to be is scientists making a joke.
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20th December 2011, 04:54 AM	#8
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,773	Originally Posted by zooterkin How is that an example of inspiring science? All it seems to be is scientists making a joke. indeed like the hunt for the "god" particle, and i am sure many others.
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20th December 2011, 03:06 AM	#3
P.J. Denyer Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,159	Walking on water is trivial compared to allowing life in the universe i.e. The Goldilocks Principal Therefore Goldilocks >> Jesus

20th December 2011, 03:43 AM	#6
HansMustermann Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 9,851	I dunno, as scientists and other people naming stuff after fairy tales go, we also have the already mentioned Goldilocks principle, and for that matter Goldilocks economy and several unrelated Goldilocks numbers, the principle of Rumpelstiltskin (no, seriously), the Cinderella complex, etc. So, yeah, Jesus too can have his name taken in vain to give a joke name to something.

20th December 2011, 04:37 AM	#7
Multivac Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,947	What is so inspiring about being nailed to a tree?

20th December 2011, 05:01 AM	#9
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,583	There is a theological argument that since god created the ~~Earth~~ universe you can learn about god by studding it thus the requirement to do science. Throw in quite a few vicars having a reasonable amount of free time and you get a lot of botany and the like out of the CofE.

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20th December 2011, 05:13 AM	#11
AvalonXQ Guest Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,853	Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer Walking on water is trivial compared to allowing life in the universe i.e. The Goldilocks Principal Therefore Goldilocks >> Jesus Therefore Goldilocks can walk on water.
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Wildy Adelaidean Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia, not that you'll read the "location" field. Posts: 9,924	Well clearly Superman has also inspired science. I'm going to post the "Induction" section about the Arabidopsis thaliana locusAT3G23130 or 'SUPERMAN': Originally Posted by AT3G23130, Induction Repressed by KRYPTONITE/SUVH4, member of the histone H3-K9 methyltransferase family that contributes with other factors to the CpNpG methylation of the SUP gene resulting in its silencing. The alternative epigenetic states of the SUPERMAN locus have been called Clark Kent alleles. Positively regulated at an early stage of development by LEAFY and by B class homeotic proteins APETALA3 and PISTILLATA. Later expression is maintained by both the B class homeotic proteins and the C class homeotic protein AGAMOUS. These two steps of regulation require the intervention of additional factors.
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20th December 2011, 05:33 AM	#13
P.J. Denyer Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,159	Originally Posted by AvalonXQ Therefore Goldilocks can walk on water. Which means she weighs the same as a duck!

20th December 2011, 05:34 AM	#14
the PC apeman Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 649	Originally Posted by AvalonXQ Therefore Goldilocks can walk on water. She's a witch! Burn her! ETA: D'Oh! P.J. Beat me to it.
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20th December 2011, 05:57 AM	#15
Bikewer Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 9,540	There is, after all, an entire sect of "Christ, Scientist"... Dunno how many test tubes they use in their services...

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AvalonXQ Guest Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,853	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers I wouldn't know, I'm not much of a Jesus nut. Dave Hmmm... Originally Posted by Wikipedia Some more recent helicopter systems do not have a Jesus nut. Atheist helicopters?! What's the world coming to?
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20th December 2011, 12:32 PM	#23
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20th December 2011, 01:44 PM	#24
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Brattus I don't get it. I'll give you the whole thing. After the crucifixion the disciples were drowning their sorrows at the inn. The door opens and in walks Jesus. 'Here I am lads, back from the dead'' Doubting Thomas says 'You're not Jesus.' 'Yes I am.' 'If you're Jesus, do a miracle for us' 'Ok, I'll walk on the water again' They go outside and heave Jesus up onto a full rain barrel, they let him go and he sinks down. Thomas says 'See, I said you weren't Jesus.' 'Have you tried it with these holes in your feet?'
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20th December 2011, 03:32 PM	#27
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dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	Originally Posted by Wolrab I heard it as: Moses and Jesus were playing a round of golf. Both hit their balls into the water. Moses walks over, strikes his club on the ground, the pond water parts, he walks out and chips the ball onto the green. The waters come back together and Moses gloats,"I still got it!" Jesus smiles and walks to the waters edge. He takes a step or two into the pond, hits a deep spot and goes under. Moses parts the water and drags a spitting and sputtering Jesus back to shore. Jesus says,"I don't get it. I used to walk on water all the time" Moses points down and says,"That was before the nail holes!" I could tell you the one about Jesus on honeymoon but I'd get myself banned.
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20th December 2011, 04:55 PM	#29
Minoosh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,491	Originally Posted by geni There is a theological argument that since god created the ~~Earth~~ universe you can learn about god by studding it thus the requirement to do science. Throw in quite a few vicars having a reasonable amount of free time and you get a lot of botany and the like out of the CofE. I always think of C&E as a fairly abstract sort of Christianity without much in the way of literal belief required ... but then there's a range I'm sure.
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20th December 2011, 06:44 PM	#30
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20th December 2011, 06:52 PM	#31
the PC apeman Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 649	Originally Posted by devnull I dunno if anybody has mentioned it yet (I havent read all of the thread), but in Australia the hand rail/bar in the car above the window is commonly referred to as a "Jesus bar". Mainly because when you grab hold of it, you're usually screaming "JESSSSUUUSSSS!!!!!!!" Old Jeep CJ's (maybe new ones too, IDK) had a handle on the dashboard in front of the passenger similarly named the "JC bar". My crazed door-less, roof-less, off-road driving regularly confirmed its function and name. Man I miss that old pile of rust. In architecture school, we were told the technical name given to a very impressive amount of open interior volume (such as an atrium) was "JC space" - when one walked into it the first reaction was... well, you know.
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20th December 2011, 11:14 PM	#32
Ron_Tomkins Satan's Helper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 32,059	Yes, even imaginary beings for which there is no evidence of their existence, can inspire science. Human beings can find inspiration for anything in anything, so this is not something to be amazed of.
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21st December 2011, 01:26 AM	#33
yomero Muse Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North of here South of there Posts: 931	The Jesus Christ lizard from Costa Rica: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45yabrnryXk
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21st December 2011, 01:36 AM	#34
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 16,374	Originally Posted by dafydd Calling the Bond number the Jesus number is something called irony. [Nit]Actually, according to the OP, the Jesus number is the inverse of the Bond number.[/Nit] You got it upside down.

21st December 2011, 02:58 AM	#35
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,484	In Wales sandals are called Jesus daps.
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21st December 2011, 03:27 AM	#36
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,434	Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer Which means she weighs the same as a duck! And jesus was made of wood, which makes the crucifixion the one act of carpentry attributed to him.
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