Do you think The Age of Transformation will come about?

taotransformation · 21st December 2011, 10:20 AM

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

the PC apeman · 21st December 2011, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

It sounds like vacuous woo.

What does it mean to "raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level"? Can this be measured?

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

No.

ynot · 21st December 2011, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

Hell no. Or should that be heavens no?

Twiler · 21st December 2011, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

What 'vibrations'?

ynot · 21st December 2011, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

I hope an age Transformation from adolescent to adult occurs for you some time soon.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Twiler

What 'vibrations'?

It's a woo thing, unless you live near a railway line or a motorway.

Tricky · 21st December 2011, 10:58 AM

Gosh I hope so. That would be soooo cool! I especially like the one that turns into a Camaro!

bruto · 21st December 2011, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

It would be nice if we had an age of transformation, starting with the task of transforming new age nonsense into something resembling coherent thought. Alas, it's just another leap at the dreary pieless sky.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

Does this have something to do with sex toys?

Sun Countess · 21st December 2011, 11:08 AM

Probably billions of people pray or meditate every single day...while millions are concurrently starving and suffering all over the globe. How much "collective consciousness" is needed before the world is transformed?

I really just wish all the energy spent on yogic flying, praying, etc. were replaced with more good works. Now work requires effort and money, and is still so often just a "drop in the bucket." But at least it's something, and the drops can add up. Billions of daily prayers and the bucket is still empty.

Craig4 · 21st December 2011, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

I think this largely stems from the mistaken belief that humans are somehow special in the universe and there's some great destiny for us. This is of course false.

Dancing David · 21st December 2011, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

Um, yes, when we have flying broomsticks.

Craig4 · 21st December 2011, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Dancing David

Um, yes, when we have flying broomsticks.

I get to be a beater on the JREF quidditch team.

Chucky · 21st December 2011, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

Is there supposed to be a good side to that?

Aepervius · 21st December 2011, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?

The only age of transformation I believe in, is when I die : that will certainly transform me from human being to rotten corpse. ETA: The Age before my Birth shall be named "The Age Pre of PRE-being" nowadays "the Age Of Aepervius" And after my death "The Age of After-Being"

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TRhe rest is non evidenced bunkum.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Chucky

Is there supposed to be a good side to that?

The Earth will smell of roses forevermore? Sounds more like a recipe for creating the workers in the film Metropolis. Luckily it is only new age woo and therefore nothing to do with reality.

learner · 21st December 2011, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Twiler

What 'vibrations'?

Good vibrations of course.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by learner

Good vibrations of course.

We'll all have to fry our brains in LSD and live in Brain Wilson's sandbox?

learner · 21st December 2011, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

We'll all have to fry our brains in LSD and live in Brain Wilson's sandbox?

yeah, there are snags.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by learner

yeah, there are snags.

In that case I prefer to leave my ego unsubmerged. Is this another drive-by post? Where is toatransformation?

Marquis de Carabas · 21st December 2011, 11:37 AM

The Age of Transformation will come about when we discover the Creation Matrix.

the PC apeman · 21st December 2011, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

In that case I prefer to leave my ego unsubmerged. Is this another drive-by post? Where is toatransformation?

The location of taotransformation that can be known is not the true location of the taotransformation.

MontagK505 · 21st December 2011, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Does this have something to do with sex toys?

Only if they are properly synchronized.

Craig4 · 21st December 2011, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by the PC apeman

The location of taotransformation that can be known is not the true location of the taotransformation.

The cup is made useful by its emptiness.

MontagK505 · 21st December 2011, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

In that case I prefer to leave my ego unsubmerged. Is this another drive-by post? Where is toatransformation?

Getting synchronized.

MontagK505 · 21st December 2011, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

The cup is made useful by its emptiness.

Is a cup empty if it only contains emptiness?

the PC apeman · 21st December 2011, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

The cup is made useful by its emptiness.

Which tells all we need to know about those whose cup overfloweth.

Craig4 · 21st December 2011, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by MontagK505

Is a cup empty if it only contains emptiness?

I'll need to revisit this after I've consumed a large amount of absinthe.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by MontagK505

Is a cup empty if it only contains emptiness?

The Emptiness contained in the cup is not the true Ineffable Emptiness.

taotransformation · 21st December 2011, 12:09 PM

Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness. So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh? The idea of the age of Information was absurd as well, but Bill Gates had the vision of everyone having a computer in their household.. now they're practically in everyone's pockets. I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer.

I Ratant · 21st December 2011, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Twiler

What 'vibrations'?

.
Dunno, but they're giving me excitations!

the PC apeman · 21st December 2011, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness. So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh? The idea of the age of Information was absurd as well, but Bill Gates had the vision of everyone having a computer in their household.. now they're practically in everyone's pockets. I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer.

What about those of us we merely expressed skepticism and also asked for more information?

What does it mean to "raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level"? Can this be measured?

I Ratant · 21st December 2011, 12:13 PM

There's mass hysteria, and the tyranny of the mob, but there is no "collective consciousness".

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness. So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh? The idea of the age of Information was absurd as well, but Bill Gates had the vision of everyone having a computer in their household.. now they're practically in everyone's pockets. I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer.

Computers are reality, talk of a 'higher plane' is bunk. There is no such thing as a collective consciousness. Social status has been around for a long time and always will be around. I have no idea what you mean by going beyond form. You will be waiting a long time for this new age to come. Mankind will just soldier on in the way we always have done. As for calling us douches, read the Member's Agreement that you signed up to. I have never heard of this Jersey Shore.

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by the PC apeman

What about those of us we merely expressed skepticism and also asked for more information?

What does it mean to "raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level"? Can this be measured?

A practical guide would be welcome.

Spindrift · 21st December 2011, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness. So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh? The idea of the age of Information was absurd as well, but Bill Gates had the vision of everyone having a computer in their household.. now they're practically in everyone's pockets. I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer.

When was the age of information absurd? Far-off, fantastical maybe, but not absurd.

How does the "Collective Consciousness" go about being transformed?

BTW: We're realistic douches, not pessimistic douches.

ynot · 21st December 2011, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness. So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh? The idea of the age of Information was absurd as well, but Bill Gates had the vision of everyone having a computer in their household.. now they're practically in everyone's pockets. I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer.

You asked for our thoughts and you got them. That our thoughts don’t agree with your thoughts doesn’t make us either pessimistic or douches. If you wanted our agreement you should have asked for that.

Impostant difference between your vision and Bill Gates vision is that computers are real things that have actual existence. Provide a single piece of credible evidence that “vibrations at a collective conscious level” exist beyond being a belief fantasy in your mind. Or simply grow up.

Sun Countess · 21st December 2011, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by taotransformation

Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness.

Because anyone who disagrees with you is a pessimistic douche?

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So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh?

You can promote any idea you want. What you can't do is provide evidence that it works. All the yogic flying, meditations, prayers, astral travel, etc. is ultimately futile. I will agree with you that the people who are doing their part to "transform the collective consciousness into a higher plane" are not doing any harm, nor are the people who fistpump while they watch Jersey Shore and use cheesy phrases. Are either of these groups doing any good? Or is it possible to live in a world where people do harmless things that please themselves, without getting into battles with people who do other harmless things to please themselves?

What amount of harm or good comes from somebody calling people who disagree "pessimistic douches?"

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I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer.

I don't even know what this means. Yes, the world has some abundance to offer. Who cares if we tune into it or not? Right now there are hundreds of millions of people who need fresh water, food, and medical care. Other billions are still looking for peace, equality and freedom. I imagine they don't care a whit about what some privileged person in a first-world country is "tuning into."

dafydd · 21st December 2011, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sun Countess

Because anyone who disagrees with you is a pessimistic douche?

You can promote any idea you want. What you can't do is provide evidence that it works. All the yogic flying, meditations, prayers, astral travel, etc. is ultimately futile. I will agree with you that the people who are doing their part to "transform the collective consciousness into a higher plane" are not doing any harm, nor are the people who fistpump while they watch Jersey Shore and use cheesy phrases. Are either of these groups doing any good? Or is it possible to live in a world where people do harmless things that please themselves, without getting into battles with people who do other harmless things to please themselves?

What amount of harm or good comes from somebody calling people who disagree "pessimistic douches?"

I don't even know what this means. Yes, the world has some abundance to offer. Who cares if we tune into it or not? Right now there are hundreds of millions of people who need fresh water, food, and medical care. Other billions are still looking for peace, equality and freedom. I imagine they don't care a whit about what some privileged person in a first-world country is "tuning into."

That idea went out of the world with Timothy Leary.

21st December 2011, 10:20 AM	#1
taotransformation New Blood Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7	Do you think The Age of Transformation will come about? We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this?
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21st December 2011, 10:22 AM	#2
the PC apeman Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 649	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? It sounds like vacuous woo. What does it mean to "raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level"? Can this be measured?
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21st December 2011, 10:23 AM	#3
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? No.
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21st December 2011, 10:32 AM	#4
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,654	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? Hell no. Or should that be heavens no?
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21st December 2011, 10:40 AM	#5
Twiler Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,494	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? What 'vibrations'?
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21st December 2011, 10:50 AM	#6
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,654	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? I hope an age Transformation from adolescent to adult occurs for you some time soon.
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21st December 2011, 10:55 AM	#7
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by Twiler What 'vibrations'? It's a woo thing, unless you live near a railway line or a motorway.
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21st December 2011, 10:58 AM	#8
Tricky Briefly immortal Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Group W bench Posts: 42,371	Gosh I hope so. That would be soooo cool! I especially like the one that turns into a Camaro!

21st December 2011, 11:00 AM	#9
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,191	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? It would be nice if we had an age of transformation, starting with the task of transforming new age nonsense into something resembling coherent thought. Alas, it's just another leap at the dreary pieless sky.
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21st December 2011, 11:02 AM	#10
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by taotransformation we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? Does this have something to do with sex toys?
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21st December 2011, 11:08 AM	#11
Sun Countess Appearance of intelligence Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,176	Probably billions of people pray or meditate every single day...while millions are concurrently starving and suffering all over the globe. How much "collective consciousness" is needed before the world is transformed? I really just wish all the energy spent on yogic flying, praying, etc. were replaced with more good works. Now work requires effort and money, and is still so often just a "drop in the bucket." But at least it's something, and the drops can add up. Billions of daily prayers and the bucket is still empty.

21st December 2011, 11:08 AM	#12
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? I think this largely stems from the mistaken belief that humans are somehow special in the universe and there's some great destiny for us. This is of course false.
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21st December 2011, 11:09 AM	#13
Dancing David Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 34,725	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? Um, yes, when we have flying broomsticks.
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21st December 2011, 11:11 AM	#14
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by Dancing David Um, yes, when we have flying broomsticks. I get to be a beater on the JREF quidditch team.
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21st December 2011, 11:11 AM	#15
Chucky Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 324	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? Is there supposed to be a good side to that?
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21st December 2011, 11:15 AM	#16
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,761	Originally Posted by taotransformation We've heard of the age of Information and other stuff, do you think an age of Transformation is about occur? An age where ego's really become submerged and the whole social status, roles, and the way we behave is totally uprooted and we raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level... What are your thoughts on this? The only age of transformation I believe in, is when I die : that will certainly transform me from human being to rotten corpse. ETA: The Age before my Birth shall be named "The Age Pre of PRE-being" nowadays "the Age Of Aepervius" And after my death "The Age of After-Being" . TRhe rest is non evidenced bunkum.
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21st December 2011, 11:18 AM	#17
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by Chucky Is there supposed to be a good side to that? The Earth will smell of roses forevermore? Sounds more like a recipe for creating the workers in the film Metropolis. Luckily it is only new age woo and therefore nothing to do with reality.
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21st December 2011, 11:21 AM	#18
learner Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2008 Location: dorset england Posts: 1,589	Originally Posted by Twiler What 'vibrations'? Good vibrations of course.
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21st December 2011, 11:27 AM	#19
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by learner Good vibrations of course. We'll all have to fry our brains in LSD and live in Brain Wilson's sandbox?
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21st December 2011, 11:31 AM	#20
learner Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2008 Location: dorset england Posts: 1,589	Originally Posted by dafydd We'll all have to fry our brains in LSD and live in Brain Wilson's sandbox? yeah, there are snags.
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21st December 2011, 11:36 AM	#21
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by learner yeah, there are snags. In that case I prefer to leave my ego unsubmerged. Is this another drive-by post? Where is toatransformation?
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21st December 2011, 11:37 AM	#22
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: vuori Posts: 27,106	The Age of Transformation will come about when we discover the Creation Matrix.
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21st December 2011, 11:51 AM	#23
the PC apeman Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 649	Originally Posted by dafydd In that case I prefer to leave my ego unsubmerged. Is this another drive-by post? Where is toatransformation? The location of taotransformation that can be known is not the true location of the taotransformation.
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21st December 2011, 11:52 AM	#24
MontagK505 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Peoples Republick of Kalifornia Posts: 1,800	Originally Posted by dafydd Does this have something to do with sex toys? Only if they are properly synchronized.
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21st December 2011, 11:53 AM	#25
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by the PC apeman The location of taotransformation that can be known is not the true location of the taotransformation. The cup is made useful by its emptiness.
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21st December 2011, 11:54 AM	#26
MontagK505 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Peoples Republick of Kalifornia Posts: 1,800	Originally Posted by dafydd In that case I prefer to leave my ego unsubmerged. Is this another drive-by post? Where is toatransformation? Getting synchronized.
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21st December 2011, 11:56 AM	#27
MontagK505 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Peoples Republick of Kalifornia Posts: 1,800	Originally Posted by Craig4 The cup is made useful by its emptiness. Is a cup empty if it only contains emptiness?
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21st December 2011, 11:58 AM	#28
the PC apeman Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 649	Originally Posted by Craig4 The cup is made useful by its emptiness. Which tells all we need to know about those whose cup overfloweth.
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21st December 2011, 12:04 PM	#29
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by MontagK505 Is a cup empty if it only contains emptiness? I'll need to revisit this after I've consumed a large amount of absinthe.
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21st December 2011, 12:06 PM	#30
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by MontagK505 Is a cup empty if it only contains emptiness? The Emptiness contained in the cup is not the true Ineffable Emptiness.
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21st December 2011, 12:09 PM	#31
taotransformation New Blood Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7	Thanks for your input Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness. So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh? The idea of the age of Information was absurd as well, but Bill Gates had the vision of everyone having a computer in their household.. now they're practically in everyone's pockets. I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer.
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21st December 2011, 12:11 PM	#32
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	Originally Posted by Twiler What 'vibrations'? . Dunno, but they're giving me excitations!

21st December 2011, 12:13 PM	#34
I Ratant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,305	There's mass hysteria, and the tyranny of the mob, but there is no "collective consciousness".

21st December 2011, 12:15 PM	#35
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by taotransformation Thanks just wondering. To you pessimistic douches who replied with a hell no, thank you, now I remember just why we can't raise our collective consciousness. So we can air "Jersey Shore" on MTV and have half of America fist pumping and using their cheesy phrases but we can't promote the idea that if we all carried the intention of transforming our current collective consciousness into a higher plane is just too far out huh? The idea of the age of Information was absurd as well, but Bill Gates had the vision of everyone having a computer in their household.. now they're practically in everyone's pockets. I believe an age is coming soon where social status, roles, is all uprooted and what will be left is just the intention to go beyond form and really tune into the abundance the world has to offer. Computers are reality, talk of a 'higher plane' is bunk. There is no such thing as a collective consciousness. Social status has been around for a long time and always will be around. I have no idea what you mean by going beyond form. You will be waiting a long time for this new age to come. Mankind will just soldier on in the way we always have done. As for calling us douches, read the Member's Agreement that you signed up to. I have never heard of this Jersey Shore.
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21st December 2011, 12:19 PM	#36
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,480	Originally Posted by the PC apeman What about those of us we merely expressed skepticism and also asked for more information? What does it mean to "raise our vibrations at a collective conscious level"? Can this be measured? A practical guide would be welcome.
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