[Merged] Jestblaze's Thoughts - Page 4

Complexity · 27th January 2012, 08:46 AM

Utter nonsense.

Brombadil · 27th January 2012, 08:53 AM

I'm seeing someone who only posts here because this is probably the only attention he gets when he speaks of these kinds of ideas. My reccommendation is to take the approach his dad did when he starts:

"Out of the way son i'm trying to watch the game"

jestblaze · 27th January 2012, 08:55 AM

Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post
I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable. Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle. I know that was after the Columbia experiments. Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter? I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you

Darat · 27th January 2012, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by PixyMisa

This has actually been done - as far back as 1948, with the thiotimoline experiments at Columbia.

...snip...

I will see what you did there.

AdMan · 27th January 2012, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post
I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable. Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle. I know that was after the Columbia experiments. Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter? I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you

Whoosh...

dafydd · 27th January 2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post
I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable. Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle. I know that was after the Columbia experiments. Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter? I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you

Err..... jestblaze, take a peek at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline

Complexity · 27th January 2012, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

...but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you

'Woo' only has three letters.

'Thank' has five letters.

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but thank you for your insightful constributions.

Ziggurat · 27th January 2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post

Here's some more information about thiotimoline which you might find useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline

ETA: beaten to the punch! If it weren't for you meddling kids....

dafydd · 27th January 2012, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Here's some more information about thiotimoline which you might find useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline

ETA: beaten to the punch! If it weren't for you meddling kids....

I will have you know that I am an éminence grise!

ehcks · 27th January 2012, 09:47 AM

Posting in a troll thread...

A tesseract is a 4-dimensional cube, not a state of matter. If you want to say tesseract, say tesseract. If you want to say 4-dimensional matter, say 4-dimensional matter.

There's no such thing as tesseractile matter just like there's no such thing as cubic matter.

dafydd · 27th January 2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by ehcks

There's no such thing as tesseractile matter

What about 'And He Built A Crooked House'?

RobDegraves · 27th January 2012, 09:59 AM

Quote:

What about 'And He Built A Crooked House'?

Yes.. I remember that one, an interesting idea.

I didn't realize it was a documentary though. Live and learn.

dafydd · 27th January 2012, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by RobDegraves

Yes.. I remember that one, an interesting idea.

I didn't realize it was a documentary though. Live and learn.

And there was that documentary 'A Subway Named Möbius'

pristerognathus · 27th January 2012, 10:13 AM

Using my unfathomable powers not only have I made you raise your hand but I've wiped your memory of doing it. You puny sceptics make me laugh with your need for evidence. You are all in my power.

Or perhaps not.

Buckaroo · 27th January 2012, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

Err..... jestblaze, take a peek at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline

In 43 years of life, I had never heard of this. Now, for the second time in two days, I see a reference to it (the first being a conversation around the lunch table at work). Weird.

Ziggurat · 27th January 2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by dafydd

I will have you know that I am an éminence grise!

What, is that Latin for a greasy protuberance?

dafydd · 27th January 2012, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

What, is that Latin for a greasy protuberance?

You've been peeking through my shower curtains!

jestblaze · 27th January 2012, 10:35 AM

more off the wall ideas about tesseractile atomic structure creation to make tesseractile elements
I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom. This radiation goes somewhere. It goes into the impossibly small blackholes in the atomic structure and i hope dilates the black hole enough to pass particles through and into the black hole. Combining two radioactive elements, not sure which ones, to create what seems to be a cubic radioactive atomic structure where the black holes stay dialated and allow for tesseractile formation stable in four dimensions. You may say it goes into the black hole but why does it come out. Simple black holes work on gravity, i believe and atomic structure is held together by the greater force which trumps gravity allowing atomic shifting three dimensionally to acomadate <sp> a constant shifting cubic three dimensional form. Maybe this is all false, I'm no physicist so I'm just trying to inspire you to look at is it possible we may be able to make free energy tesseractile matter in the future. I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop

Belz... · 27th January 2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

a tesserect is a four dineminsoinal cube
Creating an element with tesseractile properties could be an eneregy source.
The only stable tesseractile atomic configuration is time dependent with parts of it hidden from standard view.
The best example of this while flawed is in the movie cube 0
Based on the elemental/tesseractic fundamentals the structure of the tesseract would be constantly changing but appear the same as with the constant C
Energy could be harvested from the stablity complex of a true tesseractila aton and it's element because part of it would become interdimentional and release energy constantly with their reshaping. I am not 100% positive on the outcome but i believe we should be making the terreractila matter as our first experiment in extradimensional energy.

So you've read too much Marvel comics ?

sts60 · 27th January 2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post

jestblaze, the "thiotimoline" reference, as several people have pointed out, was from a short story by Isaac Asimov ("Thiotimoline to the Stars"). Nobody has tried to create "tesseractile matter"; there is no such thing.

I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable.

It doesn't exist.

Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle.

No, he didn't, and that doesn't even make sense. It's like saying there's a very small pony in every amoeba.

I know that was after the Columbia experiments.

Again, there were no such experiments. That was a joke.

Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter?

That makes no sense whatsoever. There's no separate set of some other "four dimensional" or "tesseractile" matter. Arguments about string theory and extra dimensions are about the nature of all matter and how we observe and interact with it.

I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility

Sorry, but nothing you said bears any resemblance to physical reality. But I commend you for your free-ranging interest.

but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you

Temper, temper. This isn't an academic environment, and frankly if you make wild claims people are going to have a little fun with it. Especially if you haven't invested enough effort to notice that the "HELPFUL" post was itself a joke. I'm not bashing you; that's just an observation.

dafydd · 27th January 2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

more off the wall ideas about tesseractile atomic structure creation to make tesseractile elements
I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom. This radiation goes somewhere. It goes into the impossibly small blackholes in the atomic structure and i hope dilates the black hole enough to pass particles through and into the black hole. Combining two radioactive elements, not sure which ones, to create what seems to be a cubic radioactive atomic structure where the black holes stay dialated and allow for tesseractile formation stable in four dimensions. You may say it goes into the black hole but why does it come out. Simple black holes work on gravity, i believe and atomic structure is held together by the greater force which trumps gravity allowing atomic shifting three dimensionally to acomadate <sp> a constant shifting cubic three dimensional form. Maybe this is all false, I'm no physicist so I'm just trying to inspire you to look at is it possible we may be able to make free energy tesseractile matter in the future. I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop

It is all false.

Complexity · 27th January 2012, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom.

Not only is this silly, it is wrong.

Where do you get this stuff? I highly recommend not using information from these sources again.

Originally Posted by jestblaze

I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop

You are the only person who used the word 'retarded' and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop doing so.

You are woo and you are wrong and you really really need to learn some science.

autumn1971 · 27th January 2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Is this something to do with Time Cube?

My first thought as well.

sts60 · 27th January 2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

more off the wall ideas about tesseractile atomic structure creation to make tesseractile elements

There is still no such thing as a "tesseractile element". Not even theoretically.

I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k

That is not possible.

it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity

No, that makes no sense. Radioactivity has nothing to do with thermal motion.

because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom.

No, that is gibberish. In any case, the temperature is of the atom and has nothing to do with space time in which it resides.

This radiation goes somewhere. It goes into the impossibly small blackholes in the atomic structure

The key word here is "impossibly". As already mentioned, there are no black holes inside atoms.

and i hope dilates the black hole enough to pass particles through and into the black hole.

No, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You're saying you are taking something smaller than a particle and putting a particle inside it. Not only is there no physical reality to any of this, it's not even logically coherent.

Combining two radioactive elements, not sure which ones, to create what seems to be a cubic radioactive atomic structure

No. When you combine two radioactive elements, you get a radioactive molecule, or a mix of radioactive elements if they don't combine chemically. It doesn't push things into different dimensions or other such nonsense.

where the black holes stay dialated and allow for tesseractile formation stable in four dimensions. You may say it goes into the black hole but why does it come out.

Word salad. None of this is even defined, let alone real.

Simple black holes work on gravity, i believe and atomic structure is held together by the greater force which trumps gravity

No, no, no. The strong atomic force has nothing to do with gravity, and doesnt' work against it anyway.

allowing atomic shifting three dimensionally to acomadate <sp> a constant shifting cubic three dimensional form.

"Cubic" and "three dimensional" do not mean the same thing. And what you said doesn't have any physical meaning, nor is it logically connected to your "four dimensional" notions.

Maybe this is all false, I'm no physicist so I'm just trying to inspire you to look at is it possible we may be able to make free energy tesseractile matter in the future. I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop

You're not retarded, but you need to spend some time learning a little basic physics if you want people to really pay attention to you. I don't mean to be rude, but as the saying goes, what you're talking about is so far removed from reality that it doesn't even get to the point of being "wrong". It's just, well, word salad - i.e., sciency-sounding words that don't mean anything.

Hokulele · 27th January 2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

... I'm no physicist so ...

We realized this days ago.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...87#post7964587

GreyArea · 27th January 2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

In 43 years of life, I had never heard of this. Now, for the second time in two days, I see a reference to it (the first being a conversation around the lunch table at work). Weird.

Maybe you've found a new property of that substance, a kind of harmonic.

My question is, can it be also used as a packing material for toyboxes?

SezMe · 27th January 2012, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cuddles

Are you positive?

To be fair he didn't try to spin his reply, not even by ½.

Psi Baba · 27th January 2012, 01:10 PM

And it's 'Hawking' not 'Hawkings."

Sorry, that's all I got. Everything else has been pretty much covered.

AdMan · 27th January 2012, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Psi Baba

And it's 'Hawking' not 'Hawkings."

Sorry, that's all I got. Everything else has been pretty much covered.

Also, it's 'Stephen', not 'Steven'.

mijopaalmc · 27th January 2012, 01:19 PM

Is this theory's failure known as tesseractile dysfunction?

jestblaze · 27th January 2012, 01:22 PM

take a sample of a radioactive element down to absolute zero or vanishingly close to that.

does it decay with its usual half-life or not?

i suspect that it does, as the physical processes leading to radioactive decay are not temperature dependent. <from source>

few quickly found sources:

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/23530/
http://physics.aps.org/story/v10/st27
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0182828AAQBK1W

sadhatter · 27th January 2012, 01:25 PM

To everyone who feels to make a thread like this, let me explain what it is like.

Think of if a guy my size walked up to a professional MMA fighter, now i start a conversation as to exactly how i would beat him if we were in a fight. Without , at all doing anything to show that i actually can beat him in a fight.

Does this not seem like it would be a bit obnoxious? It is the same thing these " Here is how my power works." threads are doing. Show that it works, then we will care about how it works.

catsmate1 · 27th January 2012, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

In 43 years of life, I had never heard of this. Now, for the second time in two days, I see a reference to it (the first being a conversation around the lunch table at work). Weird.

I'm sorry, we've been having a number of glitches in the matrix recently. A hotfix for reality is in beta testing and should be applied to the universe soon.

aggle-rithm · 27th January 2012, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by sadhatter

Think of if a guy my size walked up to a professional MMA fighter, now i start a conversation as to exactly how i would beat him if we were in a fight. Without , at all doing anything to show that i actually can beat him in a fight.

Also, if anyone claims that you can't beat him up, take on a hurt expression and say: "But...I wouldn't LIE!"

And: "I'm doing this for JESUS!"

Wolrab · 27th January 2012, 02:03 PM

I use tessasildenafil citrate when having tesseractile problems.

Tomblvd · 27th January 2012, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

Creating an element with tesseractile properties could be an eneregy source.

Where did you find this word?

AdMan · 27th January 2012, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tomblvd

Where did you find this word?

He pulled it out of a black hole.

PixyMisa · 27th January 2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by jestblaze

take a sample of a radioactive element down to absolute zero or vanishingly close to that.

does it decay with its usual half-life or not?

i suspect that it does, as the physical processes leading to radioactive decay are not temperature dependent.

As far as I know, yes, that's correct; radioactive decay continues at its normal rate at very high and very low temperatures.

If you want to follow up on that, I suggest you post the question in its own thread. There are working physicists on the forum who can answer this better than my layman's knowledge.

TubbaBlubba · 27th January 2012, 03:59 PM

Isn't one of the magical technobabble devices in the 80's motion picture Masters of the Universe called a "Tesseract"? Maybe this is what he's referring to.

jestblaze · 27th January 2012, 04:36 PM

just another off the wall post but if it's impossible to reach true abolute zero kelvin shouldn't there be an equation that tells you Absolute Velocity in reference to the universe?
Maybe :
Lowest achievable temperature in kelvin * a constant<maybe C> = absolute universal velocity

27th January 2012, 08:46 AM	#121
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27th January 2012, 08:53 AM	#122
Brombadil Thinker Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 187	I'm seeing someone who only posts here because this is probably the only attention he gets when he speaks of these kinds of ideas. My reccommendation is to take the approach his dad did when he starts: "Out of the way son i'm trying to watch the game"
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27th January 2012, 08:55 AM	#123
jestblaze Banned Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 61	Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable. Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle. I know that was after the Columbia experiments. Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter? I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you
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27th January 2012, 09:05 AM	#124
Darat Lackey Administrator / JREF Forum Liaison Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 64,731	Originally Posted by PixyMisa This has actually been done - as far back as 1948, with the thiotimoline experiments at Columbia. ...snip... I will see what you did there.
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27th January 2012, 09:25 AM	#125
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,157	Originally Posted by jestblaze Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable. Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle. I know that was after the Columbia experiments. Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter? I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you Whoosh...
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27th January 2012, 09:29 AM	#126
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,439	Originally Posted by jestblaze Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable. Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle. I know that was after the Columbia experiments. Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter? I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you Err..... jestblaze, take a peek at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline
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27th January 2012, 09:30 AM	#127
Complexity The Woo Whisperer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 9,263	Originally Posted by jestblaze ...but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you 'Woo' only has three letters. 'Thank' has five letters. I'm not quite sure what you mean, but thank you for your insightful constributions.
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27th January 2012, 09:33 AM	#128
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 26,175	Originally Posted by jestblaze Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post Here's some more information about thiotimoline which you might find useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline ETA: beaten to the punch! If it weren't for you meddling kids....
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27th January 2012, 09:35 AM	#129
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,439	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Here's some more information about thiotimoline which you might find useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline ETA: beaten to the punch! If it weren't for you meddling kids.... I will have you know that I am an éminence grise!
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27th January 2012, 09:47 AM	#130
ehcks Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,687	Posting in a troll thread... A tesseract is a 4-dimensional cube, not a state of matter. If you want to say tesseract, say tesseract. If you want to say 4-dimensional matter, say 4-dimensional matter. There's no such thing as tesseractile matter just like there's no such thing as cubic matter.
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27th January 2012, 09:57 AM	#131
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,439	Originally Posted by ehcks There's no such thing as tesseractile matter What about 'And He Built A Crooked House'?
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27th January 2012, 10:04 AM	#133
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,439	Originally Posted by RobDegraves Yes.. I remember that one, an interesting idea. I didn't realize it was a documentary though. Live and learn. And there was that documentary 'A Subway Named Möbius'
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27th January 2012, 10:13 AM	#134
pristerognathus Scholar Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 96	Using my unfathomable powers not only have I made you raise your hand but I've wiped your memory of doing it. You puny sceptics make me laugh with your need for evidence. You are all in my power. Or perhaps not.
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Buckaroo Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 1,715	Originally Posted by dafydd Err..... jestblaze, take a peek at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline In 43 years of life, I had never heard of this. Now, for the second time in two days, I see a reference to it (the first being a conversation around the lunch table at work). Weird.
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27th January 2012, 10:26 AM	#136
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 26,175	Originally Posted by dafydd I will have you know that I am an éminence grise! What, is that Latin for a greasy protuberance?
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27th January 2012, 10:27 AM	#137
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,439	Originally Posted by Ziggurat What, is that Latin for a greasy protuberance? You've been peeking through my shower curtains!
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27th January 2012, 10:35 AM	#138
jestblaze Banned Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 61	more off the wall ideas about tesseractile atomic structure creation to make tesseractile elements I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom. This radiation goes somewhere. It goes into the impossibly small blackholes in the atomic structure and i hope dilates the black hole enough to pass particles through and into the black hole. Combining two radioactive elements, not sure which ones, to create what seems to be a cubic radioactive atomic structure where the black holes stay dialated and allow for tesseractile formation stable in four dimensions. You may say it goes into the black hole but why does it come out. Simple black holes work on gravity, i believe and atomic structure is held together by the greater force which trumps gravity allowing atomic shifting three dimensionally to acomadate <sp> a constant shifting cubic three dimensional form. Maybe this is all false, I'm no physicist so I'm just trying to inspire you to look at is it possible we may be able to make free energy tesseractile matter in the future. I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop
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27th January 2012, 10:36 AM	#139
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details... Posts: 28,397	Originally Posted by jestblaze a tesserect is a four dineminsoinal cube Creating an element with tesseractile properties could be an eneregy source. The only stable tesseractile atomic configuration is time dependent with parts of it hidden from standard view. The best example of this while flawed is in the movie cube 0 Based on the elemental/tesseractic fundamentals the structure of the tesseract would be constantly changing but appear the same as with the constant C Energy could be harvested from the stablity complex of a true tesseractila aton and it's element because part of it would become interdimentional and release energy constantly with their reshaping. I am not 100% positive on the outcome but i believe we should be making the terreractila matter as our first experiment in extradimensional energy. So you've read too much Marvel comics ?
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27th January 2012, 10:36 AM	#140
sts60 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,523	Originally Posted by jestblaze Ok firstly i didn't know they already tried to create tesseractile matter secondly thank you for a HELPFUL post jestblaze, the "thiotimoline" reference, as several people have pointed out, was from a short story by Isaac Asimov ("Thiotimoline to the Stars"). Nobody has tried to create "tesseractile matter"; there is no such thing. I wrote this late at night when the idea just came to me I thought about how in the future we may make it stable. It doesn't exist. Steven Hawkings proposed a theory that black holes too small for a photon to pass through exist in every particle. No, he didn't, and that doesn't even make sense. It's like saying there's a very small pony in every amoeba. I know that was after the Columbia experiments. Again, there were no such experiments. That was a joke. Do you think it in the future this principle could allow for the stabilization of a 3 dimensional shifting true four dimensional tesseractile matter? That makes no sense whatsoever. There's no separate set of some other "four dimensional" or "tesseractile" matter. Arguments about string theory and extra dimensions are about the nature of all matter and how we observe and interact with it. I really know little about this and I am just trying to give some off the wall ideas that I honestly don't know if they lack scientific credibility Sorry, but nothing you said bears any resemblance to physical reality. But I commend you for your free-ranging interest. but to everyone who posted jokes or simply bashed me <i'm thinking of a four letter word> you Temper, temper. This isn't an academic environment, and frankly if you make wild claims people are going to have a little fun with it. Especially if you haven't invested enough effort to notice that the "HELPFUL" post was itself a joke. I'm not bashing you; that's just an observation.
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27th January 2012, 10:38 AM	#141
dafydd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium (Flatland) Posts: 31,439	Originally Posted by jestblaze more off the wall ideas about tesseractile atomic structure creation to make tesseractile elements I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom. This radiation goes somewhere. It goes into the impossibly small blackholes in the atomic structure and i hope dilates the black hole enough to pass particles through and into the black hole. Combining two radioactive elements, not sure which ones, to create what seems to be a cubic radioactive atomic structure where the black holes stay dialated and allow for tesseractile formation stable in four dimensions. You may say it goes into the black hole but why does it come out. Simple black holes work on gravity, i believe and atomic structure is held together by the greater force which trumps gravity allowing atomic shifting three dimensionally to acomadate <sp> a constant shifting cubic three dimensional form. Maybe this is all false, I'm no physicist so I'm just trying to inspire you to look at is it possible we may be able to make free energy tesseractile matter in the future. I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop It is all false.
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27th January 2012, 10:41 AM	#142
Complexity The Woo Whisperer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 9,263	Originally Posted by jestblaze I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom. Not only is this silly, it is wrong. Where do you get this stuff? I highly recommend not using information from these sources again. Originally Posted by jestblaze I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop You are the only person who used the word 'retarded' and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop doing so. You are woo and you are wrong and you really really need to learn some science.
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27th January 2012, 10:48 AM	#143
autumn1971 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,451	Originally Posted by Mojo Is this something to do with Time Cube? My first thought as well.
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27th January 2012, 11:01 AM	#144
sts60 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,523	Originally Posted by jestblaze more off the wall ideas about tesseractile atomic structure creation to make tesseractile elements There is still no such thing as a "tesseractile element". Not even theoretically. I believe if you take a radioactive element atom and lower it to 0k That is not possible. it still exhibits radioactive decay but shows no signs of radioactivity No, that makes no sense. Radioactivity has nothing to do with thermal motion. because 0k restricts time-space to motionlessness relative to the atom. No, that is gibberish. In any case, the temperature is of the atom and has nothing to do with space time in which it resides. This radiation goes somewhere. It goes into the impossibly small blackholes in the atomic structure The key word here is "impossibly". As already mentioned, there are no black holes inside atoms. and i hope dilates the black hole enough to pass particles through and into the black hole. No, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You're saying you are taking something smaller than a particle and putting a particle inside it. Not only is there no physical reality to any of this, it's not even logically coherent. Combining two radioactive elements, not sure which ones, to create what seems to be a cubic radioactive atomic structure No. When you combine two radioactive elements, you get a radioactive molecule, or a mix of radioactive elements if they don't combine chemically. It doesn't push things into different dimensions or other such nonsense. where the black holes stay dialated and allow for tesseractile formation stable in four dimensions. You may say it goes into the black hole but why does it come out. Word salad. None of this is even defined, let alone real. Simple black holes work on gravity, i believe and atomic structure is held together by the greater force which trumps gravity No, no, no. The strong atomic force has nothing to do with gravity, and doesnt' work against it anyway. allowing atomic shifting three dimensionally to acomadate <sp> a constant shifting cubic three dimensional form. "Cubic" and "three dimensional" do not mean the same thing. And what you said doesn't have any physical meaning, nor is it logically connected to your "four dimensional" notions. Maybe this is all false, I'm no physicist so I'm just trying to inspire you to look at is it possible we may be able to make free energy tesseractile matter in the future. I slightly take offense to comments that I'm retarded etc please stop You're not retarded, but you need to spend some time learning a little basic physics if you want people to really pay attention to you. I don't mean to be rude, but as the saying goes, what you're talking about is so far removed from reality that it doesn't even get to the point of being "wrong". It's just, well, word salad - i.e., sciency-sounding words that don't mean anything.
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27th January 2012, 11:22 AM	#145
Hokulele Official Nemesis Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Trying to decide whether to set defenses against an army, or against mole rats. Posts: 27,265	Originally Posted by jestblaze ... I'm no physicist so ... We realized this days ago. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...87#post7964587
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27th January 2012, 12:54 PM	#146
GreyArea Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,000	Originally Posted by Buckaroo In 43 years of life, I had never heard of this. Now, for the second time in two days, I see a reference to it (the first being a conversation around the lunch table at work). Weird. Maybe you've found a new property of that substance, a kind of harmonic. My question is, can it be also used as a packing material for toyboxes?
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27th January 2012, 12:55 PM	#147
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 16,361	Originally Posted by Cuddles Are you positive? To be fair he didn't try to spin his reply, not even by ½.

27th January 2012, 01:10 PM	#148
Psi Baba Homo Skepticalis Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Occupying my barstool Posts: 3,177	And it's 'Hawking' not 'Hawkings." Sorry, that's all I got. Everything else has been pretty much covered.
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27th January 2012, 01:15 PM	#149
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,157	Originally Posted by Psi Baba And it's 'Hawking' not 'Hawkings." Sorry, that's all I got. Everything else has been pretty much covered. Also, it's 'Stephen', not 'Steven'.
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27th January 2012, 01:19 PM	#150
mijopaalmc Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,634	Is this theory's failure known as tesseractile dysfunction?
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27th January 2012, 01:22 PM	#151
jestblaze Banned Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 61	take a sample of a radioactive element down to absolute zero or vanishingly close to that. does it decay with its usual half-life or not? i suspect that it does, as the physical processes leading to radioactive decay are not temperature dependent. <from source> few quickly found sources: http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/23530/ http://physics.aps.org/story/v10/st27 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0182828AAQBK1W
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27th January 2012, 01:25 PM	#152
sadhatter Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,743	To everyone who feels to make a thread like this, let me explain what it is like. Think of if a guy my size walked up to a professional MMA fighter, now i start a conversation as to exactly how i would beat him if we were in a fight. Without , at all doing anything to show that i actually can beat him in a fight. Does this not seem like it would be a bit obnoxious? It is the same thing these " Here is how my power works." threads are doing. Show that it works, then we will care about how it works.
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27th January 2012, 01:39 PM	#153
catsmate1 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin (the one in Ireland) Posts: 7,093	Originally Posted by Buckaroo In 43 years of life, I had never heard of this. Now, for the second time in two days, I see a reference to it (the first being a conversation around the lunch table at work). Weird. I'm sorry, we've been having a number of glitches in the matrix recently. A hotfix for reality is in beta testing and should be applied to the universe soon.

27th January 2012, 01:45 PM	#154
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,149	Originally Posted by sadhatter Think of if a guy my size walked up to a professional MMA fighter, now i start a conversation as to exactly how i would beat him if we were in a fight. Without , at all doing anything to show that i actually can beat him in a fight. Also, if anyone claims that you can't beat him up, take on a hurt expression and say: "But...I wouldn't LIE!" And: "I'm doing this for JESUS!"
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27th January 2012, 02:03 PM	#155
Wolrab Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beautiful Finger Lakes Posts: 1,706	I use tessasildenafil citrate when having tesseractile problems.
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