Julian Assange Takes Job for Russia Today

NoZed Avenger · 25th January 2012, 01:55 PM

You may remember Mr. Assange, he's the guy who releases government secrets? Some time back, he said he had lots of government secrets, including of Russia.

Bets on whether he releases any?

Quote:

That’s right: Assange, self-styled foe of government secrets and conspiracies of the powerful, is going to be a star on a TV network backed by the Kremlin. The same Kremlin that has done suspiciously little to investigate or prevent the killings and beatings of journalists that have plagued Russia for more than a decade. The same Kremlin accused of blatant fraud in December’s parliamentary elections. The same Kremlin whose control of the country’s broadcast media allowed it to suppress coverage of the massive protests mounted in response to that fraud. The same Kremlin whose embrace of corruption led to Russia being named “the world’s most corrupt major economy” by Transparency International in 2011.

And so on. That Kremlin is Julian Assange’s new patron. The same Julian Assange who accused President Obama of putting “a chill across investigative journalism” by prosecuting Army leaker Bradley Manning.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...-kremlin-pawn/

Maybe he's going undercover to break the story of the dozens of journalists who have dies under mysterious circumstances in modern Russia. . . .

rwguinn · 25th January 2012, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by NoZed Avenger

You may remember Mr. Assange, he's the guy who releases government secrets? Some time back, he said he had lots of government secrets, including of Russia.

Bets on whether he releases any?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...-kremlin-pawn/

Maybe he's going undercover to break the story of the dozens of journalists who have dies under mysterious circumstances in modern Russia. . . .

And you are surprised at this? I'm not...

Gazpacho · 25th January 2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

The same Kremlin whose control of the country’s broadcast media allowed it to suppress coverage of the massive protests mounted in response to that fraud.

RT covered those protests, while exposing western sham reports of riots during the protests that the western media then had to back away from.

fuelair · 25th January 2012, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by NoZed Avenger

You may remember Mr. Assange, he's the guy who releases government secrets? Some time back, he said he had lots of government secrets, including of Russia.

Bets on whether he releases any?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...-kremlin-pawn/

Maybe he's going undercover to break the story of the dozens of journalists who have dies under mysterious circumstances in modern Russia. . . .

I can wait, but I will not halt breathing whilst doing so.

Checkmite · 25th January 2012, 03:10 PM

I think Assange is disillusioned. He expected that announcing he had classified information leaked from several governments would make him internationally feared or respected or whatnot, and was dejected when, as they say in EVE, "not one damn was given".

Now he just needs money.

Travis · 25th January 2012, 06:53 PM

Don't tell me he exhausted his supply of Swedish honeys so quickly that now he's going for the Russian babes.

Sam.I.Am · 25th January 2012, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Travis

Don't tell me he exhausted his supply of Swedish honeys so quickly that now he's going for the Russian babes.

Olga will probably rape him instead... probably not rape-rape of course.

timhau · 25th January 2012, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

I think Assange is disillusioned.

Or a douche.

bit_pattern · 25th January 2012, 11:17 PM

So by appearing on Russian TV it makes him a Kremlin operative? My god Americans are an obtuse bunch of crypto fascists

Travis · 25th January 2012, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by bit_pattern

So by appearing on Russian TV it makes him a Kremlin operative? My god Americans are an obtuse bunch of crypto fascists

Kremlin spy? Probably not. An unethical tool? Definitely.

bit_pattern · 25th January 2012, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Travis

Kremlin spy? Probably not. An unethical tool? Definitely.

How is it anymore "unethical" than appearing on, say, the ABC in Australia?

timhau · 25th January 2012, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by bit_pattern

How is it anymore "unethical" than appearing on, say, the ABC in Australia?

You don't know much about Russia Today, do you?

Gazpacho · 26th January 2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

You don't know much about Russia Today, do you?

I wouldn't care if they painted Putin's face big-brother-style on their set backgrounds as long as they continue releasing interviews and raw footage. Oh, and kicking sand in the face of US media when they deserve it.

thaiboxerken · 26th January 2012, 12:30 AM

Yea, I hate it when people leak government corruption to the public. Julian is a bastard.

SezMe · 26th January 2012, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

You don't know much about Russia Today, do you?

No, actually, I don't. Educate me.

The Dark Lord · 26th January 2012, 12:54 AM

Russia Today is a state owned propaganda channel that gives airtime to conspiracy theories, presumably to make the US look bad.

bit_pattern · 26th January 2012, 01:26 AM

Sounds like Fox News sans the public ownership.

timhau · 26th January 2012, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by The Dark Lord

Russia Today is a state owned propaganda channel that gives airtime to conspiracy theories, presumably to make the US look bad.

Yeah, it specializes in all sorts of fringe weirdness. As an example ccording to RT's experts, the financial crisis put the US in an unavoidable course towards a new civil war, which was to break out before the end of 2009. And 2010. And 2011. They give a lot of air time to kooks like Gerald Celente, because they never met a destruction of the West -theory that they didn't like. Sometimes watching it makes you think they missed the part where the USSR fell and the Cold War ended.

Childlike Empress · 26th January 2012, 02:45 AM

Hillary is afraid the sheeple will notice the propaganda when exposed to alternative viewpoints:

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timhau · 26th January 2012, 02:46 AM

I was going to add that cranks and kooks naturally love RT.

Childlike Empress · 26th January 2012, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

I was going to add that cranks and kooks naturally love RT.

That would indeed have looked stupid under Hillary's counter-evidence. yw.

Gazpacho · 26th January 2012, 02:50 AM

As a matter of full disclosure could you identify the TV news networks whose entire program lineup you approve of?

bit_pattern · 26th January 2012, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by Gazpacho

As a matter of full disclosure could you identify the TV news networks whose entire program lineup you approve of?

Yes, I'd be interested to hear an answer to this. And can anyone clarify for me, as the article was heavy on rhetoric and light on clarity, is he just being interviewed by RT or is he being employed by them?

bit_pattern · 26th January 2012, 02:58 AM

OK, so he's being employed by them essentially. That is pretty **********

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16716904

Childlike Empress · 26th January 2012, 03:07 AM

From the press release:

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DC · 26th January 2012, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by The Dark Lord

Russia Today is a state owned propaganda channel that gives airtime to conspiracy theories, presumably to make the US look bad.

state owned or not has nothing to do with it being propaganda or not, FOX has propaganda running also and are not state owned, other stations that are state or public owned are not propaganda stations at all. Also FOX has its conspiracy nuts on air.

but i agree that Rt is terribly onesided just as is FOX news or PressTV.

Gazpacho · 26th January 2012, 03:20 AM

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Margarita Simonyan, the channel's editor-in-chief, tweeted: "Assange will record the programme under house arrest.

Talk about a short commute.

Originally Posted by bit_pattern

OK, so he's being employed by them essentially.

He's producing shows for sale to RT.

timhau · 26th January 2012, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by Gazpacho

As a matter of full disclosure could you identify the TV news networks whose entire program lineup you approve of?

Comedy Central.

Childlike Empress · 26th January 2012, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

Comedy Central.

Shows.

Arcade22 · 26th January 2012, 04:03 AM

Don't worry. RT is about as fair and balanced about the west (The US) as western (American) newspapers and tv stations are about Russia, so it evens out.

NoZed Avenger · 26th January 2012, 04:26 AM

Assange announced he had information harmful to the Russian government and he has never released it. The Russian government is suspected (that is not a strong enough term) to have had tens of journalists outright killed, more beaten, for being negative about it. RT is Russian's non-secret propaganda arm.

And that's all ok in some quarters because at least they put their thumb in the eye of the real enemy, the U.S.

Give the people what they want, I guess.

Childlike Empress · 26th January 2012, 04:41 AM

Yeah, yeah, we get it. Assange evil. RT evil. Birds of a feather. Five minutes of hate.

If I were you I would be more concerned that you always have to peel layers and layers of propaganda from a "news" item to get from the idiotic ramblings in your OP quote to the competition bashing of the BBC to the fact that Assange produces the show himself and only licences it to RT.

Like RT reports (and understandably "hopes" that they will have it exclusive):

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bit_pattern · 26th January 2012, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by NoZed Avenger

Assange announced he had information harmful to the Russian government and he has never released it.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Russian_Federation

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Russia

I agree though that he shouldn't involve himself or Wikileaks with an organ of the Russian government. I'm not convinced that the sentiments expressed in the OP or in the thread are necessarily accurate, I will wait to see what actually happens, but if it is how it seems then its unconscionable.

bit_pattern · 26th January 2012, 05:21 AM

RT really doesn't sound any worse than most American news service, I could find a parallel criticisms for every US MSM outlet. I think Americans find it shocking because it gives different views to the propganda that passes for news over there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_...and_criticisms

Childlike Empress · 26th January 2012, 05:28 AM

RT is the propaganda arm of the Kremlin in exactly the same way as "Voice of America" is the propaganda arm of the White House. Not more, not less.

bit_pattern · 26th January 2012, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

RT is the propaganda arm of the Kremlin in exactly the same way as "Voice of America" is the propaganda arm of the White House. Not more, not less.

Sounds about right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_o...ca#Controversy

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On April 2, 2007, Abdul Malik Rigi, the leader of Jundullah, a militant group with possible links to al-Qaeda, appeared on Voice of America's Persian service. VOA introduced Rigi as "the leader of popular Iranian resistance movement".[60] The interview resulted in public condemnation by the Iranian-American community, as well as the Iranian government.[61][61][62][62][63] Jundullah is a Sunni Islamiist militant organization that has been linked to numerous attacks on civilians, such as the 2009 Zahedan explosion.

WildCat · 26th January 2012, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Gazpacho

I wouldn't care if they painted Putin's face big-brother-style on their set backgrounds as long as they continue releasing interviews and raw footage. Oh, and kicking sand in the face of US media when they deserve it.

Yeah, like when they showed that 9/11 was an inside job. That's some serioius journalism they practice at Russia Today!

I wish Assange well in his new role as Putin's hand puppet.

WildCat · 26th January 2012, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by bit_pattern

RT really doesn't sound any worse than most American news service

If the late great Weekly World News was typical of American news service.

IDB87 · 26th January 2012, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Sam.I.Am

Olga will probably rape him instead... probably not rape-rape of course.

Snu snu?

WildCat · 26th January 2012, 06:02 AM

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It's Russia's version of prisonplanet. Anything is fit to broadcast, so long as it's anti-US.

25th January 2012, 01:55 PM	#1
NoZed Avenger Bitter Whiner Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 11,313	Julian Assange Takes Job for Russia Today You may remember Mr. Assange, he's the guy who releases government secrets? Some time back, he said he had lots of government secrets, including of Russia. Bets on whether he releases any? Quote: That’s right: Assange, self-styled foe of government secrets and conspiracies of the powerful, is going to be a star on a TV network backed by the Kremlin. The same Kremlin that has done suspiciously little to investigate or prevent the killings and beatings of journalists that have plagued Russia for more than a decade. The same Kremlin accused of blatant fraud in December’s parliamentary elections. The same Kremlin whose control of the country’s broadcast media allowed it to suppress coverage of the massive protests mounted in response to that fraud. The same Kremlin whose embrace of corruption led to Russia being named “the world’s most corrupt major economy” by Transparency International in 2011. And so on. That Kremlin is Julian Assange’s new patron. The same Julian Assange who accused President Obama of putting “a chill across investigative journalism” by prosecuting Army leaker Bradley Manning. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...-kremlin-pawn/ Maybe he's going undercover to break the story of the dozens of journalists who have dies under mysterious circumstances in modern Russia. . . .
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25th January 2012, 02:20 PM	#3
Gazpacho Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Valley Lodge, USA Posts: 2,136	Quote: The same Kremlin whose control of the country’s broadcast media allowed it to suppress coverage of the massive protests mounted in response to that fraud. RT covered those protests, while exposing western sham reports of riots during the protests that the western media then had to back away from.
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25th January 2012, 02:43 PM	#4
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,881	Originally Posted by NoZed Avenger You may remember Mr. Assange, he's the guy who releases government secrets? Some time back, he said he had lots of government secrets, including of Russia. Bets on whether he releases any? http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffberc...-kremlin-pawn/ Maybe he's going undercover to break the story of the dozens of journalists who have dies under mysterious circumstances in modern Russia. . . . I can wait, but I will not halt breathing whilst doing so.
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25th January 2012, 06:53 PM	#6
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25th January 2012, 03:10 PM	#5
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 14,878	I think Assange is disillusioned. He expected that announcing he had classified information leaked from several governments would make him internationally feared or respected or whatnot, and was dejected when, as they say in EVE, "not one damn was given". Now he just needs money.

25th January 2012, 07:04 PM	#7
Sam.I.Am Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hunting Moose and Squirrel Posts: 4,154	Originally Posted by Travis Don't tell me he exhausted his supply of Swedish honeys so quickly that now he's going for the Russian babes. Olga will probably rape him instead... probably not rape-rape of course.
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25th January 2012, 10:56 PM	#8
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,644	Originally Posted by Checkmite I think Assange is disillusioned. Or a douche.
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25th January 2012, 11:17 PM	#9
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	So by appearing on Russian TV it makes him a Kremlin operative? My god Americans are an obtuse bunch of crypto fascists
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25th January 2012, 11:44 PM	#10
Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 17,937	Originally Posted by bit_pattern So by appearing on Russian TV it makes him a Kremlin operative? My god Americans are an obtuse bunch of crypto fascists Kremlin spy? Probably not. An unethical tool? Definitely.
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25th January 2012, 11:53 PM	#11
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	Originally Posted by Travis Kremlin spy? Probably not. An unethical tool? Definitely. How is it anymore "unethical" than appearing on, say, the ABC in Australia?
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25th January 2012, 11:59 PM	#12
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,644	Originally Posted by bit_pattern How is it anymore "unethical" than appearing on, say, the ABC in Australia? You don't know much about Russia Today, do you?
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26th January 2012, 12:23 AM	#13
Gazpacho Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Valley Lodge, USA Posts: 2,136	Originally Posted by timhau You don't know much about Russia Today, do you? I wouldn't care if they painted Putin's face big-brother-style on their set backgrounds as long as they continue releasing interviews and raw footage. Oh, and kicking sand in the face of US media when they deserve it.
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26th January 2012, 12:30 AM	#14
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 20,947	Yea, I hate it when people leak government corruption to the public. Julian is a bastard.
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26th January 2012, 12:35 AM	#15
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 16,370	Originally Posted by timhau You don't know much about Russia Today, do you? No, actually, I don't. Educate me.

26th January 2012, 12:54 AM	#16
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26th January 2012, 01:26 AM	#17
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	Sounds like Fox News sans the public ownership.
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26th January 2012, 02:25 AM	#18
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,644	Originally Posted by The Dark Lord Russia Today is a state owned propaganda channel that gives airtime to conspiracy theories, presumably to make the US look bad. Yeah, it specializes in all sorts of fringe weirdness. As an example ccording to RT's experts, the financial crisis put the US in an unavoidable course towards a new civil war, which was to break out before the end of 2009. And 2010. And 2011. They give a lot of air time to kooks like Gerald Celente, because they never met a destruction of the West -theory that they didn't like. Sometimes watching it makes you think they missed the part where the USSR fell and the Cold War ended.
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26th January 2012, 02:46 AM	#20
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,644	I was going to add that cranks and kooks naturally love RT.
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26th January 2012, 02:49 AM	#21
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 7,834	Originally Posted by timhau I was going to add that cranks and kooks naturally love RT. That would indeed have looked stupid under Hillary's counter-evidence. yw.
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26th January 2012, 02:50 AM	#22
Gazpacho Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Valley Lodge, USA Posts: 2,136	As a matter of full disclosure could you identify the TV news networks whose entire program lineup you approve of?
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26th January 2012, 02:56 AM	#23
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	Originally Posted by Gazpacho As a matter of full disclosure could you identify the TV news networks whose entire program lineup you approve of? Yes, I'd be interested to hear an answer to this. And can anyone clarify for me, as the article was heavy on rhetoric and light on clarity, is he just being interviewed by RT or is he being employed by them?
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26th January 2012, 02:58 AM	#24
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	OK, so he's being employed by them essentially. That is pretty ********** http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16716904
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26th January 2012, 03:07 AM	#25
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26th January 2012, 03:14 AM	#26
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,639	Originally Posted by The Dark Lord Russia Today is a state owned propaganda channel that gives airtime to conspiracy theories, presumably to make the US look bad. state owned or not has nothing to do with it being propaganda or not, FOX has propaganda running also and are not state owned, other stations that are state or public owned are not propaganda stations at all. Also FOX has its conspiracy nuts on air. but i agree that Rt is terribly onesided just as is FOX news or PressTV.
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26th January 2012, 03:20 AM	#27
Gazpacho Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Valley Lodge, USA Posts: 2,136	Quote: Margarita Simonyan, the channel's editor-in-chief, tweeted: "Assange will record the programme under house arrest. Talk about a short commute. Originally Posted by bit_pattern OK, so he's being employed by them essentially. He's producing shows for sale to RT.
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26th January 2012, 03:29 AM	#28
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26th January 2012, 03:29 AM	#29
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 7,834	Originally Posted by timhau Comedy Central. Shows.
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26th January 2012, 04:03 AM	#30
Arcade22 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Västerbotten, Sweden Posts: 1,823	Don't worry. RT is about as fair and balanced about the west (The US) as western (American) newspapers and tv stations are about Russia, so it evens out.
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26th January 2012, 04:26 AM	#31
NoZed Avenger Bitter Whiner Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 11,313	Assange announced he had information harmful to the Russian government and he has never released it. The Russian government is suspected (that is not a strong enough term) to have had tens of journalists outright killed, more beaten, for being negative about it. RT is Russian's non-secret propaganda arm. And that's all ok in some quarters because at least they put their thumb in the eye of the real enemy, the U.S. Give the people what they want, I guess.
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26th January 2012, 05:13 AM	#33
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	Originally Posted by NoZed Avenger Assange announced he had information harmful to the Russian government and he has never released it. http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Russian_Federation http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Russia I agree though that he shouldn't involve himself or Wikileaks with an organ of the Russian government. I'm not convinced that the sentiments expressed in the OP or in the thread are necessarily accurate, I will wait to see what actually happens, but if it is how it seems then its unconscionable.
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26th January 2012, 05:21 AM	#34
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	RT really doesn't sound any worse than most American news service, I could find a parallel criticisms for every US MSM outlet. I think Americans find it shocking because it gives different views to the propganda that passes for news over there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_...and_criticisms
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	__________________ "You are the epitome of the 'pigeon playing chess'. No matter how good I am at chess, you are just going to knock the pieces over, **** on the board and strut around like you've won something" "In this political climate, all of science is vulnerable to ideological attack when reality disagrees with political beliefs."

26th January 2012, 05:28 AM	#35
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 7,834	RT is the propaganda arm of the Kremlin in exactly the same way as "Voice of America" is the propaganda arm of the White House. Not more, not less.
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26th January 2012, 05:41 AM	#36
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress RT is the propaganda arm of the Kremlin in exactly the same way as "Voice of America" is the propaganda arm of the White House. Not more, not less. Sounds about right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_o...ca#Controversy Quote: On April 2, 2007, Abdul Malik Rigi, the leader of Jundullah, a militant group with possible links to al-Qaeda, appeared on Voice of America's Persian service. VOA introduced Rigi as "the leader of popular Iranian resistance movement".[60] The interview resulted in public condemnation by the Iranian-American community, as well as the Iranian government.[61][61][62][62][63] Jundullah is a Sunni Islamiist militant organization that has been linked to numerous attacks on civilians, such as the 2009 Zahedan explosion.
bit_pattern Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,349	__________________ "You are the epitome of the 'pigeon playing chess'. No matter how good I am at chess, you are just going to knock the pieces over, **** on the board and strut around like you've won something" "In this political climate, all of science is vulnerable to ideological attack when reality disagrees with political beliefs."

26th January 2012, 05:50 AM	#37
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Originally Posted by Gazpacho I wouldn't care if they painted Putin's face big-brother-style on their set backgrounds as long as they continue releasing interviews and raw footage. Oh, and kicking sand in the face of US media when they deserve it. Yeah, like when they showed that 9/11 was an inside job. That's some serioius journalism they practice at Russia Today! I wish Assange well in his new role as Putin's hand puppet.