George Russel Simpson

paulmarkj · 3rd March 2012, 09:42 AM

George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that...

"Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred."

Is there any news of his application?

AvalonXQ · 3rd March 2012, 10:01 AM

Isn't that the corndog guy?

Didn't he sue the JREF when they showed how his code didn't work?

DrDave · 3rd March 2012, 10:17 AM

Is it this guy?

http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home

jsfisher · 3rd March 2012, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by AvalonXQ

Isn't that the corndog guy?

Didn't he sue the JREF when they showed how his code didn't work?

Originally Posted by DrDave

Is it this guy?

http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home

Yes, and yes.

His frivolous lawsuit may well be the reason his application has been, as he alleges, ignored. Then again, the application itself is quite the piece of insanity; it provides ample reasons of its own why it should be ignored.

BirdyBuddy · 3rd March 2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by paulmarkj

George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that...

"Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred."

Is there any news of his application?

How old is this article? Would you please post a link. You can leave off the http or the www and just leave the rest.

LibraryLady · 3rd March 2012, 01:46 PM

http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home

jsfisher · 3rd March 2012, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by BirdyBuddy

How old is this article? Would you please post a link. You can leave off the http or the www and just leave the rest.

Click at your own peril.

Metullus · 3rd March 2012, 01:56 PM

This is a joke, right?

Locknar · 3rd March 2012, 02:11 PM

Sadly no; check the link mentioned in posts 3, 6 or in my sig line to learn all about ole George.

GzuzKryzt · 3rd March 2012, 03:00 PM

Aleister Crowley has set the bar for jokesters very high. He was the Javier Sotomayor of his profession, whatever you want to call it.

Simpson keeps running around the bar, complaining about it being too high.

wardenclyffe · 3rd March 2012, 03:01 PM

While I would not take any statement made by Simpson to be reliable, I will say that his claim that the JREF has not been very reliable in corresponding with him sounds plausible. That certainly seems to be the experience that DowserDon has been having. We have no proof that DowserDon has been ignored by the JREF, but he seems to be an honest broker so far. We'll know better at the end of this month.

Ward

BirdyBuddy · 3rd March 2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by jsfisher

Click at your own peril.

OMG! It's that recent?

jsfisher · 3rd March 2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by BirdyBuddy

OMG! It's that recent?

http://ufoetblog.com/
Scroll down. There are two posts from February 23.

BirdyBuddy · 3rd March 2012, 03:53 PM

Yeah, saw that. I'm just surprised he's still going on about it. Of course nothing mentioned about him trying to sue JREF...

jsfisher · 3rd March 2012, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by wardenclyffe

While I would not take any statement made by Simpson to be reliable, I will say that his claim that the JREF has not been very reliable in corresponding with him sounds plausible. That certainly seems to be the experience that DowserDon has been having. We have no proof that DowserDon has been ignored by the JREF, but he seems to be an honest broker so far. We'll know better at the end of this month.

Ward

Well, there is this: "Incomplete applications will be ignored." (Source.) George's application was very incomplete.

CriticalThanking · 3rd March 2012, 06:09 PM

Somehow I doubt my comment will pass muster on his website.

"CriticalThanking on March 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm said:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
George, you tried to sue posters at JREF and Randi. Considering your appearing insane (layman’s opinion) and your incomplete and incoherent application, why should JREF talk to you at all?"

jsfisher · 3rd March 2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by CriticalThanking

Somehow I doubt my comment will pass muster on his website.

"CriticalThanking on March 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm said:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
George, you tried to sue posters at JREF and Randi. Considering your appearing insane (layman’s opinion) and your incomplete and incoherent application, why should JREF talk to you at all?"

I'm sure George will approve it after running it through the ol' ET hotdog translator:

Quote:

George, you an inspiration. Fight the good fight, and don't let this scam artist continue to dupe the innocent.

..and least that was what I got applying the simple translation rules.

wardenclyffe · 3rd March 2012, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by jsfisher

Well, there is this: "Incomplete applications will be ignored." (Source.) George's application was very incomplete.

True, but if Simpson is to be believed (I know---that's a stretch), the JREF did not ignore him. They contacted him and told him that it would take 2-3 weeks for them to get back to him.

The JREF has the right to ignore an incomplete application (although I think that's a bad policy) and they also have the right to reject someone outright if that applicant has sued them in the past. Neither of those is what happened in this case. Again, if Simpson is to be believed.

Ward

LashL · 3rd March 2012, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by DrDave

Is it this guy?

http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home

Originally Posted by jsfisher

Yes, and yes.

His frivolous lawsuit may well be the reason his application has been, as he alleges, ignored. Then again, the application itself is quite the piece of insanity; it provides ample reasons of its own why it should be ignored.

Originally Posted by LibraryLady

http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home

Originally Posted by Locknar

Sadly no; check the link mentioned in posts 3, 6 or in my sig line to learn all about ole George.

Memories...

Light the corners of my mind...

paulmarkj · 4th March 2012, 04:09 AM

Thanks for all the info on this. Ihave mentioned in the Daily Mail forum about the lawsuits (actually, the Daily Mail deleted one of my posts because they feared it might be libelous - all I did was qoute from simpsonlitigation!

Anyway, if anyone is interested, he is kicking up a fuss at daily mail forums

NobbyNobbs · 4th March 2012, 06:39 AM

I fondly recall using his code to turn "George Simpson" into "crackpot", earning myself a place in the Simpson 15+7.

fuelair · 4th March 2012, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by paulmarkj

George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that...

"Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred."

Is there any news of his application?

There is no arrangement for people (or others) to mapply for anything here. Perhaps he should try applying for the challenge!!

The Central Scrutinizer · 4th March 2012, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by jsfisher

http://ufoetblog.com/
Scroll down. There are two posts from February 23.

He certainly has a creative "translation" of Randi's name!

Worm · 5th March 2012, 05:50 AM

Ahh, good old George, it warms the cockles of my heart to see that he is still about and still as crazy as ever.

In terms of his other hobby of taking people to court for no apparent reason, I recently came across this judgement from the Supreme Court of the Virgin Islands but I can't make nor tail of all the legal mumbo jumbo. Looks like a general smackdown and 'go away, stop being silly' ?

jsfisher · 5th March 2012, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Worm

Ahh, good old George, it warms the cockles of my heart to see that he is still about and still as crazy as ever.

In terms of his other hobby of taking people to court for no apparent reason, I recently came across this judgement from the Supreme Court of the Virgin Islands but I can't make nor tail of all the legal mumbo jumbo. Looks like a general smackdown and 'go away, stop being silly' ?

I could be wrong, but I think it is Myrna Golden that the judge smacked. If I read things correctly, George lost his suit (no surprise) against Ms. Golden, and she was awarded $15,000 for legal fees. That was back on January 27, 2010.

George has appealed the decision and must of had to post a security bond while the appeal progressed. Ms. Golden was asking that the bond now be released to her, but the judge ruled it wasn't time, yet.

...or something like that.

Maybe our Goddess of Legaltainment will be inspired to update her website tracking the trials and tribulations (pun intended) of George Russel Simpson.

Aepervius · 5th March 2012, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by NobbyNobbs

I fondly recall using his code to turn "George Simpson" into "crackpot", earning myself a place in the Simpson 15+7.

I am still jealous of not having been named as an arch nemesis by this corny guy.

DrDave · 5th March 2012, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by jsfisher

I could be wrong, but I think it is Myrna Golden that the judge smacked. If I read things correctly, George lost his suit (no surprise) against Ms. Golden, and she was awarded $15,000 for legal fees. That was back on January 27, 2010.

George has appealed the decision and must of had to post a security bond while the appeal progressed. Ms. Golden was asking that the bond now be released to her, but the judge ruled it wasn't time, yet.

...or something like that.

Maybe our Goddess of Legaltainment will be inspired to update her website tracking the trials and tribulations (pun intended) of George Russel Simpson.

If you are right then I think this will be his most successful judgement yet.

Rut rut rut

Almo · 5th March 2012, 07:27 AM

So "ET Corn Gods" is not a joke title for his stuff. It's the real thing!

http://www.etcorngods.com/translation.htm

Mongrel · 5th March 2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by wardenclyffe

The JREF has the right to ignore an incomplete application (although I think that's a bad policy)

Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money.

Quote:

and they also have the right to reject someone outright if that applicant has sued them in the past. Neither of those is what happened in this case. Again, if Simpson is to be believed.

Ward

I don't recall the exact details but I think once he got rebuffed the first time (Do application properly, all you've got is post dictions - try a prediction etc) he ramped up the crazy to supersonic and then threatened the JREF and a few posters with legal action. Then it got messy because (again if memory serves correctly) he was the one that they based the rule of "No MDC if you're sueing us" so he was allowed to hang around and troll the boards while the JREF consulted their lawyers.

ETA - you can probably sort out the sequence of events and timeline in this thread > http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98855

wardenclyffe · 5th March 2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mongrel

Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money.

Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate.

Originally Posted by Mongrel

I don't recall the exact details but I think once he got rebuffed the first time (Do application properly, all you've got is post dictions - try a prediction etc) he ramped up the crazy to supersonic and then threatened the JREF and a few posters with legal action. Then it got messy because (again if memory serves correctly) he was the one that they based the rule of "No MDC if you're sueing us" so he was allowed to hang around and troll the boards while the JREF consulted their lawyers.

ETA - you can probably sort out the sequence of events and timeline in this thread > http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98855

I was under the impression that his application was a recent event---at least the application he's complaining about now.

Ward

Mongrel · 5th March 2012, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by wardenclyffe

Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate.

You'd have to ask the JREF what the procedure is regarding incorrect submissions, and even if what he says bears a passing resemblance to reality he may have 'notes' on his file.

Quote:

I was under the impression that his application was a recent event---at least the application he's complaining about now.

Ward

And, again - due to his past actions I wouldn't want to make any bets on how they treat his communications or what he's been told.

** I only post here and am not privy to the workings of the JREF administration. It's also too late here to trawl through the threads to shore up my recollections of events**

jsfisher · 5th March 2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by DrDave

If you are right then I think this will be his most successful judgement yet.

Rut rut rut

I looked a little closer. George lost his latest appeal in early February of this year. Ms. Golden filed her motion to release the bond a few days early of the court order being finalized. George still had another week to file yet another appeal.

Oh, look. He's going to appeal.

DevilsAdvocate · 5th March 2012, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by wardenclyffe

Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate.

It's essentially irrelevant because no applications are coming in or being processed. It seems unlikely that anyone currently eligible for the MDC is actually going to apply. Although I seriously doubt that if someone like Sylvia Brown were to apply and a required piece of data were missing that the application would simply be ignored.

As for the past, there were times when JREF was understaffed and incomplete applications were just shoved aside. But that was over 8-10 years ago. Look through the Challenge Applications section and you will find many, many, many instances where Kramer contacted people with incomplete applications and even followed up on old applications that had previously been pushed aside. The responses, from those who actually responded, are less than fabulous. Kramer worked it hard and worked good. What we got was loony tunes and dead end streets. I don’t think you can blame JREF for not trying. And actually, JREF probably bent over backwards too much and let the insanity go on too long.

rjh01 · 5th March 2012, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

It's essentially irrelevant because no applications are coming in or being processed. It seems unlikely that anyone currently eligible for the MDC is actually going to apply. Although I seriously doubt that if someone like Sylvia Brown were to apply and a required piece of data were missing that the application would simply be ignored.
<snip>

Do you have any evidence that JREF are not receiving or processing any applications? Or are you just talking about George's application?

Almo · 6th March 2012, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

As for the past, there were times when JREF was understaffed and incomplete applications were just shoved aside. But that was over 8-10 years ago. Look through the Challenge Applications section and you will find many, many, many instances where Kramer contacted people with incomplete applications and even followed up on old applications that had previously been pushed aside. The responses, from those who actually responded, are less than fabulous. Kramer worked it hard and worked good. What we got was loony tunes and dead end streets. I don’t think you can blame JREF for not trying. And actually, JREF probably bent over backwards too much and let the insanity go on too long.

That was my thought. The first thing I did on the forum when I joined was read all the stuff from KRAMER. I agree with the policy of ignoring incomplete applications. It's not hard to complete the app correctly, and the instructions state that incomplete apps will be ignored. Seems fair to me.

DevilsAdvocate · 6th March 2012, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by rjh01

Do you have any evidence that JREF are not receiving or processing any applications? Or are you just talking about George's application?

I am just talking that nothing is being updated in the Challenge Applications thread and there is no other message from JREF that anything is in the works. The point I was going for was that although some applications in the distant past were denied or tossed because they were incomplete, there is no evidence that is still occurring because we see later cases where incomplete applications were not ignored and we currently don’t see any applications being either accepted or denied. There is no evidence that JREF is ignoring any current applications because they are incomplete (of course, we don’t see any applications being accepted or rejected for any other reason either).

wardenclyffe · 6th March 2012, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

I am just talking that nothing is being updated in the Challenge Applications thread and there is no other message from JREF that anything is in the works. The point I was going for was that although some applications in the distant past were denied or tossed because they were incomplete, there is no evidence that is still occurring because we see later cases where incomplete applications were not ignored and we currently don’t see any applications being either accepted or denied. There is no evidence that JREF is ignoring any current applications because they are incomplete (of course, we don’t see any applications being accepted or rejected for any other reason either).

If you look at DowserDon's thread in this sub-forum, you will find that he's been both accepted and ignored.

Ward

Worm · 3rd May 2012, 07:25 AM

heeeeeeeeeeere's Georgie!

New filing against Randi

(filed 02 May 2012)

Basically complaining about not being accepted for the MDC

Paul2 · 4th May 2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mongrel

Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money.

Ya gotta love the Borwn M&Ms story. Brilliant!

Almo · 6th May 2012, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Worm

heeeeeeeeeeere's Georgie!

New filing against Randi

(filed 02 May 2012)

Basically complaining about not being accepted for the MDC

3rd March 2012, 09:42 AM	#1
paulmarkj New Blood Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4	George Russel Simpson George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that... "Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred." Is there any news of his application?
paulmarkj New Blood Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4

3rd March 2012, 10:01 AM	#2
AvalonXQ Guest Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11,853	Isn't that the corndog guy? Didn't he sue the JREF when they showed how his code didn't work?
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3rd March 2012, 10:57 AM	#4
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,474	Originally Posted by AvalonXQ Isn't that the corndog guy? Didn't he sue the JREF when they showed how his code didn't work? Originally Posted by DrDave Is it this guy? http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home Yes, and yes. His frivolous lawsuit may well be the reason his application has been, as he alleges, ignored. Then again, the application itself is quite the piece of insanity; it provides ample reasons of its own why it should be ignored.
	__________________ As long as Comparison is sunk in the urine of one's mind, new glasses will not help. --Doronshadmi. *A proud member of the Simpson 15+7, named in the suit, Simpson v. Zwinge, et al., and founder of the ET Corn Gods Survivors Group.* By the way, the Nominate button is to your ~~right~~ left, sort of..

3rd March 2012, 01:43 PM	#5
BirdyBuddy Terrorized by 'tiels Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 5,781	Originally Posted by paulmarkj George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that... "Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred." Is there any news of his application? How old is this article? Would you please post a link. You can leave off the http or the www and just leave the rest.
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3rd March 2012, 01:46 PM	#6
LibraryLady ...but not JUST a LibraryLady Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Building a house in the common ground Posts: 13,059	http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home
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3rd March 2012, 10:17 AM	#3
DrDave Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 3,110	Is it this guy? http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home

3rd March 2012, 01:50 PM	#7
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,474	Originally Posted by BirdyBuddy How old is this article? Would you please post a link. You can leave off the http or the www and just leave the rest. Click at your own peril.
	__________________ As long as Comparison is sunk in the urine of one's mind, new glasses will not help. --Doronshadmi. *A proud member of the Simpson 15+7, named in the suit, Simpson v. Zwinge, et al., and founder of the ET Corn Gods Survivors Group.* By the way, the Nominate button is to your ~~right~~ left, sort of..

3rd March 2012, 01:56 PM	#8
Metullus Forum ¾-Wit Pro Tem Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Waldo's Pond Posts: 3,959	This is a joke, right?
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3rd March 2012, 02:11 PM	#9
Locknar Sum of all evils ^tm Deputy Admin Join Date: May 2007 Location: 25.50 N, 77.54 W Posts: 14,117	Sadly no; check the link mentioned in posts 3, 6 or in my sig line to learn all about ole George.
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3rd March 2012, 03:00 PM	#10
GzuzKryzt Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,367	Aleister Crowley has set the bar for jokesters very high. He was the Javier Sotomayor of his profession, whatever you want to call it. Simpson keeps running around the bar, complaining about it being too high.
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3rd March 2012, 03:01 PM	#11
wardenclyffe Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,483	While I would not take any statement made by Simpson to be reliable, I will say that his claim that the JREF has not been very reliable in corresponding with him sounds plausible. That certainly seems to be the experience that DowserDon has been having. We have no proof that DowserDon has been ignored by the JREF, but he seems to be an honest broker so far. We'll know better at the end of this month. Ward
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3rd March 2012, 03:27 PM	#12
BirdyBuddy Terrorized by 'tiels Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 5,781	Originally Posted by jsfisher Click at your own peril. OMG! It's that recent?
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3rd March 2012, 03:48 PM	#13
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,474	Originally Posted by BirdyBuddy OMG! It's that recent? http://ufoetblog.com/ Scroll down. There are two posts from February 23.
	__________________ As long as Comparison is sunk in the urine of one's mind, new glasses will not help. --Doronshadmi. *A proud member of the Simpson 15+7, named in the suit, Simpson v. Zwinge, et al., and founder of the ET Corn Gods Survivors Group.* By the way, the Nominate button is to your ~~right~~ left, sort of..

3rd March 2012, 03:53 PM	#14
BirdyBuddy Terrorized by 'tiels Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 5,781	Yeah, saw that. I'm just surprised he's still going on about it. Of course nothing mentioned about him trying to sue JREF...
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3rd March 2012, 05:53 PM	#15
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,474	Originally Posted by wardenclyffe While I would not take any statement made by Simpson to be reliable, I will say that his claim that the JREF has not been very reliable in corresponding with him sounds plausible. That certainly seems to be the experience that DowserDon has been having. We have no proof that DowserDon has been ignored by the JREF, but he seems to be an honest broker so far. We'll know better at the end of this month. Ward Well, there is this: "Incomplete applications will be ignored." (Source.) George's application was very incomplete.
	__________________ As long as Comparison is sunk in the urine of one's mind, new glasses will not help. --Doronshadmi. *A proud member of the Simpson 15+7, named in the suit, Simpson v. Zwinge, et al., and founder of the ET Corn Gods Survivors Group.* By the way, the Nominate button is to your ~~right~~ left, sort of..

3rd March 2012, 06:09 PM	#16
CriticalThanking Designated Hitter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the queue to Williamsport Posts: 2,159	Somehow I doubt my comment will pass muster on his website. "CriticalThanking on March 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm said: Your comment is awaiting moderation. George, you tried to sue posters at JREF and Randi. Considering your appearing insane (layman’s opinion) and your incomplete and incoherent application, why should JREF talk to you at all?"

3rd March 2012, 06:19 PM	#17
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,474	Originally Posted by CriticalThanking Somehow I doubt my comment will pass muster on his website. "CriticalThanking on March 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm said: Your comment is awaiting moderation. George, you tried to sue posters at JREF and Randi. Considering your appearing insane (layman’s opinion) and your incomplete and incoherent application, why should JREF talk to you at all?" I'm sure George will approve it after running it through the ol' ET hotdog translator: Quote: George, you an inspiration. Fight the good fight, and don't let this scam artist continue to dupe the innocent. ..and least that was what I got applying the simple translation rules.
	__________________ As long as Comparison is sunk in the urine of one's mind, new glasses will not help. --Doronshadmi. *A proud member of the Simpson 15+7, named in the suit, Simpson v. Zwinge, et al., and founder of the ET Corn Gods Survivors Group.* By the way, the Nominate button is to your ~~right~~ left, sort of..

3rd March 2012, 06:40 PM	#18
wardenclyffe Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,483	Originally Posted by jsfisher Well, there is this: "Incomplete applications will be ignored." (Source.) George's application was very incomplete. True, but if Simpson is to be believed (I know---that's a stretch), the JREF did not ignore him. They contacted him and told him that it would take 2-3 weeks for them to get back to him. The JREF has the right to ignore an incomplete application (although I think that's a bad policy) and they also have the right to reject someone outright if that applicant has sued them in the past. Neither of those is what happened in this case. Again, if Simpson is to be believed. Ward
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3rd March 2012, 09:22 PM	#19
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26,174	Originally Posted by DrDave Is it this guy? http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home Originally Posted by jsfisher Yes, and yes. His frivolous lawsuit may well be the reason his application has been, as he alleges, ignored. Then again, the application itself is quite the piece of insanity; it provides ample reasons of its own why it should be ignored. Originally Posted by LibraryLady http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home Originally Posted by Locknar Sadly no; check the link mentioned in posts 3, 6 or in my sig line to learn all about ole George. Memories... Light the corners of my mind...

4th March 2012, 04:09 AM	#20
paulmarkj New Blood Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4	Thanks for all the info on this. Ihave mentioned in the Daily Mail forum about the lawsuits (actually, the Daily Mail deleted one of my posts because they feared it might be libelous - all I did was qoute from simpsonlitigation! Anyway, if anyone is interested, he is kicking up a fuss at daily mail forums
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4th March 2012, 06:39 AM	#21
NobbyNobbs Gazerbeam's Protege Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Mended Drum Posts: 5,630	I fondly recall using his code to turn "George Simpson" into "crackpot", earning myself a place in the Simpson 15+7.
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4th March 2012, 06:40 AM	#22
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,881	Originally Posted by paulmarkj George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that... "Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred." Is there any news of his application? There is no arrangement for people (or others) to mapply for anything here. Perhaps he should try applying for the challenge!!
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4th March 2012, 06:57 AM	#23
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Originally Posted by jsfisher http://ufoetblog.com/ Scroll down. There are two posts from February 23. He certainly has a creative "translation" of Randi's name!
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5th March 2012, 05:50 AM	#24
Worm Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Coldstream, Scotland Posts: 1,086	Ahh, good old George, it warms the cockles of my heart to see that he is still about and still as crazy as ever. In terms of his other hobby of taking people to court for no apparent reason, I recently came across this judgement from the Supreme Court of the Virgin Islands but I can't make nor tail of all the legal mumbo jumbo. Looks like a general smackdown and 'go away, stop being silly' ?
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5th March 2012, 06:18 AM	#25
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,474	Originally Posted by Worm Ahh, good old George, it warms the cockles of my heart to see that he is still about and still as crazy as ever. In terms of his other hobby of taking people to court for no apparent reason, I recently came across this judgement from the Supreme Court of the Virgin Islands but I can't make nor tail of all the legal mumbo jumbo. Looks like a general smackdown and 'go away, stop being silly' ? I could be wrong, but I think it is Myrna Golden that the judge smacked. If I read things correctly, George lost his suit (no surprise) against Ms. Golden, and she was awarded $15,000 for legal fees. That was back on January 27, 2010. George has appealed the decision and must of had to post a security bond while the appeal progressed. Ms. Golden was asking that the bond now be released to her, but the judge ruled it wasn't time, yet. ...or something like that. Maybe our Goddess of Legaltainment will be inspired to update her website tracking the trials and tribulations (pun intended) of George Russel Simpson.
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5th March 2012, 07:14 AM	#26
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,730	Originally Posted by NobbyNobbs I fondly recall using his code to turn "George Simpson" into "crackpot", earning myself a place in the Simpson 15+7. I am still jealous of not having been named as an arch nemesis by this corny guy.
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5th March 2012, 07:26 AM	#27
DrDave Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 3,110	Originally Posted by jsfisher I could be wrong, but I think it is Myrna Golden that the judge smacked. If I read things correctly, George lost his suit (no surprise) against Ms. Golden, and she was awarded $15,000 for legal fees. That was back on January 27, 2010. George has appealed the decision and must of had to post a security bond while the appeal progressed. Ms. Golden was asking that the bond now be released to her, but the judge ruled it wasn't time, yet. ...or something like that. Maybe our Goddess of Legaltainment will be inspired to update her website tracking the trials and tribulations (pun intended) of George Russel Simpson. If you are right then I think this will be his most successful judgement yet. Rut rut rut

5th March 2012, 07:27 AM	#28
Almo Masterblazer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 6,404	So "ET Corn Gods" is not a joke title for his stuff. It's the real thing! http://www.etcorngods.com/translation.htm
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5th March 2012, 11:12 AM	#29
Mongrel Begging for Scraps Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 20 minutes in the future Posts: 1,640	Originally Posted by wardenclyffe The JREF has the right to ignore an incomplete application (although I think that's a bad policy) Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money. Quote: and they also have the right to reject someone outright if that applicant has sued them in the past. Neither of those is what happened in this case. Again, if Simpson is to be believed. Ward I don't recall the exact details but I think once he got rebuffed the first time (Do application properly, all you've got is post dictions - try a prediction etc) he ramped up the crazy to supersonic and then threatened the JREF and a few posters with legal action. Then it got messy because (again if memory serves correctly) he was the one that they based the rule of "No MDC if you're sueing us" so he was allowed to hang around and troll the boards while the JREF consulted their lawyers. ETA - you can probably sort out the sequence of events and timeline in this thread > http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98855
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5th March 2012, 12:57 PM	#30
wardenclyffe Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,483	Originally Posted by Mongrel Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money. Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate. Originally Posted by Mongrel I don't recall the exact details but I think once he got rebuffed the first time (Do application properly, all you've got is post dictions - try a prediction etc) he ramped up the crazy to supersonic and then threatened the JREF and a few posters with legal action. Then it got messy because (again if memory serves correctly) he was the one that they based the rule of "No MDC if you're sueing us" so he was allowed to hang around and troll the boards while the JREF consulted their lawyers. ETA - you can probably sort out the sequence of events and timeline in this thread > http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98855 I was under the impression that his application was a recent event---at least the application he's complaining about now. Ward
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5th March 2012, 03:25 PM	#31
Mongrel Begging for Scraps Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 20 minutes in the future Posts: 1,640	Originally Posted by wardenclyffe Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate. You'd have to ask the JREF what the procedure is regarding incorrect submissions, and even if what he says bears a passing resemblance to reality he may have 'notes' on his file. Quote: I was under the impression that his application was a recent event---at least the application he's complaining about now. Ward And, again - due to his past actions I wouldn't want to make any bets on how they treat his communications or what he's been told. I only post here and am not privy to the workings of the JREF administration. It's also too late here to trawl through the threads to shore up my recollections of events
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5th March 2012, 06:21 PM	#32
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,474	Originally Posted by DrDave If you are right then I think this will be his most successful judgement yet. Rut rut rut I looked a little closer. George lost his latest appeal in early February of this year. Ms. Golden filed her motion to release the bond a few days early of the court order being finalized. George still had another week to file yet another appeal. Oh, look. He's going to appeal.
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5th March 2012, 10:48 PM	#33
DevilsAdvocate Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,633	Originally Posted by wardenclyffe Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate. It's essentially irrelevant because no applications are coming in or being processed. It seems unlikely that anyone currently eligible for the MDC is actually going to apply. Although I seriously doubt that if someone like Sylvia Brown were to apply and a required piece of data were missing that the application would simply be ignored. As for the past, there were times when JREF was understaffed and incomplete applications were just shoved aside. But that was over 8-10 years ago. Look through the Challenge Applications section and you will find many, many, many instances where Kramer contacted people with incomplete applications and even followed up on old applications that had previously been pushed aside. The responses, from those who actually responded, are less than fabulous. Kramer worked it hard and worked good. What we got was loony tunes and dead end streets. I don’t think you can blame JREF for not trying. And actually, JREF probably bent over backwards too much and let the insanity go on too long.
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5th March 2012, 11:29 PM	#34
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,166	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate It's essentially irrelevant because no applications are coming in or being processed. It seems unlikely that anyone currently eligible for the MDC is actually going to apply. Although I seriously doubt that if someone like Sylvia Brown were to apply and a required piece of data were missing that the application would simply be ignored. <snip> Do you have any evidence that JREF are not receiving or processing any applications? Or are you just talking about George's application?

6th March 2012, 01:11 PM	#35
Almo Masterblazer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 6,404	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate As for the past, there were times when JREF was understaffed and incomplete applications were just shoved aside. But that was over 8-10 years ago. Look through the Challenge Applications section and you will find many, many, many instances where Kramer contacted people with incomplete applications and even followed up on old applications that had previously been pushed aside. The responses, from those who actually responded, are less than fabulous. Kramer worked it hard and worked good. What we got was loony tunes and dead end streets. I don’t think you can blame JREF for not trying. And actually, JREF probably bent over backwards too much and let the insanity go on too long. That was my thought. The first thing I did on the forum when I joined was read all the stuff from KRAMER. I agree with the policy of ignoring incomplete applications. It's not hard to complete the app correctly, and the instructions state that incomplete apps will be ignored. Seems fair to me.
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