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Old 3rd March 2012, 09:42 AM   #1
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George Russel Simpson

George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that...

"Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred."

Is there any news of his application?
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Old 3rd March 2012, 10:01 AM   #2
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Isn't that the corndog guy?

Didn't he sue the JREF when they showed how his code didn't work?
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Old 3rd March 2012, 10:17 AM   #3
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Is it this guy?

http://sites.google.com/site/simpsonlitigation/home
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Originally Posted by AvalonXQ View Post
Isn't that the corndog guy?

Didn't he sue the JREF when they showed how his code didn't work?
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Yes, and yes.

His frivolous lawsuit may well be the reason his application has been, as he alleges, ignored. Then again, the application itself is quite the piece of insanity; it provides ample reasons of its own why it should be ignored.
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Originally Posted by paulmarkj View Post
George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that...

"Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred."

Is there any news of his application?
How old is this article? Would you please post a link. You can leave off the http or the www and just leave the rest.
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Originally Posted by BirdyBuddy View Post
How old is this article? Would you please post a link. You can leave off the http or the www and just leave the rest.

Click at your own peril.
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This is a joke, right?
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Aleister Crowley has set the bar for jokesters very high. He was the Javier Sotomayor of his profession, whatever you want to call it.

Simpson keeps running around the bar, complaining about it being too high.

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While I would not take any statement made by Simpson to be reliable, I will say that his claim that the JREF has not been very reliable in corresponding with him sounds plausible. That certainly seems to be the experience that DowserDon has been having. We have no proof that DowserDon has been ignored by the JREF, but he seems to be an honest broker so far. We'll know better at the end of this month.

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Originally Posted by jsfisher View Post
OMG! It's that recent?
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Originally Posted by BirdyBuddy View Post
OMG! It's that recent?

http://ufoetblog.com/
Scroll down. There are two posts from February 23.
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Yeah, saw that. I'm just surprised he's still going on about it. Of course nothing mentioned about him trying to sue JREF...
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Originally Posted by wardenclyffe View Post
While I would not take any statement made by Simpson to be reliable, I will say that his claim that the JREF has not been very reliable in corresponding with him sounds plausible. That certainly seems to be the experience that DowserDon has been having. We have no proof that DowserDon has been ignored by the JREF, but he seems to be an honest broker so far. We'll know better at the end of this month.

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Well, there is this: "Incomplete applications will be ignored." (Source.) George's application was very incomplete.
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Somehow I doubt my comment will pass muster on his website.

"CriticalThanking on March 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm said:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
George, you tried to sue posters at JREF and Randi. Considering your appearing insane (layman’s opinion) and your incomplete and incoherent application, why should JREF talk to you at all?"
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Originally Posted by CriticalThanking View Post
Somehow I doubt my comment will pass muster on his website.

"CriticalThanking on March 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm said:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
George, you tried to sue posters at JREF and Randi. Considering your appearing insane (layman’s opinion) and your incomplete and incoherent application, why should JREF talk to you at all?"
I'm sure George will approve it after running it through the ol' ET hotdog translator:

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George, you an inspiration. Fight the good fight, and don't let this scam artist continue to dupe the innocent.
..and least that was what I got applying the simple translation rules.
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Well, there is this: "Incomplete applications will be ignored." (Source.) George's application was very incomplete.
True, but if Simpson is to be believed (I know---that's a stretch), the JREF did not ignore him. They contacted him and told him that it would take 2-3 weeks for them to get back to him.

The JREF has the right to ignore an incomplete application (although I think that's a bad policy) and they also have the right to reject someone outright if that applicant has sued them in the past. Neither of those is what happened in this case. Again, if Simpson is to be believed.

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Yes, and yes.

His frivolous lawsuit may well be the reason his application has been, as he alleges, ignored. Then again, the application itself is quite the piece of insanity; it provides ample reasons of its own why it should be ignored.
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Thanks for all the info on this. Ihave mentioned in the Daily Mail forum about the lawsuits (actually, the Daily Mail deleted one of my posts because they feared it might be libelous - all I did was qoute from simpsonlitigation!

Anyway, if anyone is interested, he is kicking up a fuss at daily mail forums
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Originally Posted by paulmarkj View Post
George Russel Simpson has said he mapplied for the million dollar challenge but has not received his promised rely. He posted on the Daily Mail website that...

"Randi is afraid I will win and he will lose his $1Million which he needs to continue his campaign of hatred."

Is there any news of his application?
There is no arrangement for people (or others) to mapply for anything here. Perhaps he should try applying for the challenge!!
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http://ufoetblog.com/
Scroll down. There are two posts from February 23.
He certainly has a creative "translation" of Randi's name!
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Ahh, good old George, it warms the cockles of my heart to see that he is still about and still as crazy as ever.

In terms of his other hobby of taking people to court for no apparent reason, I recently came across this judgement from the Supreme Court of the Virgin Islands but I can't make nor tail of all the legal mumbo jumbo. Looks like a general smackdown and 'go away, stop being silly' ?
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Ahh, good old George, it warms the cockles of my heart to see that he is still about and still as crazy as ever.

In terms of his other hobby of taking people to court for no apparent reason, I recently came across this judgement from the Supreme Court of the Virgin Islands but I can't make nor tail of all the legal mumbo jumbo. Looks like a general smackdown and 'go away, stop being silly' ?
I could be wrong, but I think it is Myrna Golden that the judge smacked. If I read things correctly, George lost his suit (no surprise) against Ms. Golden, and she was awarded $15,000 for legal fees. That was back on January 27, 2010.

George has appealed the decision and must of had to post a security bond while the appeal progressed. Ms. Golden was asking that the bond now be released to her, but the judge ruled it wasn't time, yet.

...or something like that.

Maybe our Goddess of Legaltainment will be inspired to update her website tracking the trials and tribulations (pun intended) of George Russel Simpson.
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I fondly recall using his code to turn "George Simpson" into "crackpot", earning myself a place in the Simpson 15+7.
I am still jealous of not having been named as an arch nemesis by this corny guy.
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I could be wrong, but I think it is Myrna Golden that the judge smacked. If I read things correctly, George lost his suit (no surprise) against Ms. Golden, and she was awarded $15,000 for legal fees. That was back on January 27, 2010.

George has appealed the decision and must of had to post a security bond while the appeal progressed. Ms. Golden was asking that the bond now be released to her, but the judge ruled it wasn't time, yet.

...or something like that.

Maybe our Goddess of Legaltainment will be inspired to update her website tracking the trials and tribulations (pun intended) of George Russel Simpson.
If you are right then I think this will be his most successful judgement yet.

Rut rut rut
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So "ET Corn Gods" is not a joke title for his stuff. It's the real thing!

http://www.etcorngods.com/translation.htm

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The JREF has the right to ignore an incomplete application (although I think that's a bad policy)
Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money.
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and they also have the right to reject someone outright if that applicant has sued them in the past. Neither of those is what happened in this case. Again, if Simpson is to be believed.

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I don't recall the exact details but I think once he got rebuffed the first time (Do application properly, all you've got is post dictions - try a prediction etc) he ramped up the crazy to supersonic and then threatened the JREF and a few posters with legal action. Then it got messy because (again if memory serves correctly) he was the one that they based the rule of "No MDC if you're sueing us" so he was allowed to hang around and troll the boards while the JREF consulted their lawyers.

ETA - you can probably sort out the sequence of events and timeline in this thread > http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98855
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Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money.
Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate.

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I don't recall the exact details but I think once he got rebuffed the first time (Do application properly, all you've got is post dictions - try a prediction etc) he ramped up the crazy to supersonic and then threatened the JREF and a few posters with legal action. Then it got messy because (again if memory serves correctly) he was the one that they based the rule of "No MDC if you're sueing us" so he was allowed to hang around and troll the boards while the JREF consulted their lawyers.

ETA - you can probably sort out the sequence of events and timeline in this thread > http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98855
I was under the impression that his application was a recent event---at least the application he's complaining about now.

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Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate.
You'd have to ask the JREF what the procedure is regarding incorrect submissions, and even if what he says bears a passing resemblance to reality he may have 'notes' on his file.

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I was under the impression that his application was a recent event---at least the application he's complaining about now.

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And, again - due to his past actions I wouldn't want to make any bets on how they treat his communications or what he's been told.

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If you are right then I think this will be his most successful judgement yet.

Rut rut rut
I looked a little closer. George lost his latest appeal in early February of this year. Ms. Golden filed her motion to release the bond a few days early of the court order being finalized. George still had another week to file yet another appeal.

Oh, look. He's going to appeal.
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Old 5th March 2012, 10:48 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by wardenclyffe View Post
Like I said, they have the right. I just think it's rude to completely ignore an incomplete application. I think it's better PR to at least reply and explain that the application is incomplete and cannot be accepted. I think their rules are fine mostly. The requirements for academic and media attention are fine, in my opinion. Those do weed out the time wasters, but giving no response whatsoever because someone forgot to fill out one blank on a form seems unnecessarily harsh. Will other organizations do it? Probably, but I don't think it's something the JREF should emulate.
It's essentially irrelevant because no applications are coming in or being processed. It seems unlikely that anyone currently eligible for the MDC is actually going to apply. Although I seriously doubt that if someone like Sylvia Brown were to apply and a required piece of data were missing that the application would simply be ignored.

As for the past, there were times when JREF was understaffed and incomplete applications were just shoved aside. But that was over 8-10 years ago. Look through the Challenge Applications section and you will find many, many, many instances where Kramer contacted people with incomplete applications and even followed up on old applications that had previously been pushed aside. The responses, from those who actually responded, are less than fabulous. Kramer worked it hard and worked good. What we got was loony tunes and dead end streets. I don’t think you can blame JREF for not trying. And actually, JREF probably bent over backwards too much and let the insanity go on too long.
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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
It's essentially irrelevant because no applications are coming in or being processed. It seems unlikely that anyone currently eligible for the MDC is actually going to apply. Although I seriously doubt that if someone like Sylvia Brown were to apply and a required piece of data were missing that the application would simply be ignored.
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Do you have any evidence that JREF are not receiving or processing any applications? Or are you just talking about George's application?
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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
As for the past, there were times when JREF was understaffed and incomplete applications were just shoved aside. But that was over 8-10 years ago. Look through the Challenge Applications section and you will find many, many, many instances where Kramer contacted people with incomplete applications and even followed up on old applications that had previously been pushed aside. The responses, from those who actually responded, are less than fabulous. Kramer worked it hard and worked good. What we got was loony tunes and dead end streets. I don’t think you can blame JREF for not trying. And actually, JREF probably bent over backwards too much and let the insanity go on too long.
That was my thought. The first thing I did on the forum when I joined was read all the stuff from KRAMER. I agree with the policy of ignoring incomplete applications. It's not hard to complete the app correctly, and the instructions state that incomplete apps will be ignored. Seems fair to me.
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Do you have any evidence that JREF are not receiving or processing any applications? Or are you just talking about George's application?
I am just talking that nothing is being updated in the Challenge Applications thread and there is no other message from JREF that anything is in the works. The point I was going for was that although some applications in the distant past were denied or tossed because they were incomplete, there is no evidence that is still occurring because we see later cases where incomplete applications were not ignored and we currently don’t see any applications being either accepted or denied. There is no evidence that JREF is ignoring any current applications because they are incomplete (of course, we don’t see any applications being accepted or rejected for any other reason either).
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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
I am just talking that nothing is being updated in the Challenge Applications thread and there is no other message from JREF that anything is in the works. The point I was going for was that although some applications in the distant past were denied or tossed because they were incomplete, there is no evidence that is still occurring because we see later cases where incomplete applications were not ignored and we currently don’t see any applications being either accepted or denied. There is no evidence that JREF is ignoring any current applications because they are incomplete (of course, we don’t see any applications being accepted or rejected for any other reason either).
If you look at DowserDon's thread in this sub-forum, you will find that he's been both accepted and ignored.

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Why? Think of it like the "Brown M&Ms" rider, it's an easy way to separate out the time wasters - saving time and money.
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