Al-Zarqawi did the Beheading. HE WILL PAY THE PRICE.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 09:48 AM

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CIA Says Al-Zarqawi Beheaded Berg in Iraq

By KATHERINE PFLEGER SHRADER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was the person shown on a video beheading an American civilian in Iraq, based on an analysis of the voice on the video, a CIA official said Thursday.

Intelligence officials conducted a technical analysis of the video released on an Islamic web site May 11 and determined "with high probability" that the person shown speaking on the tape — wearing a head scarf and a ski mask — is al-Zarqawi, a CIA official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The person who is shown speaking in the video — determined to be al-Zarqawi — is then shown on the video decapitating American citizen Nicholas Berg, the official said.

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Zarqawi, who is also supsected in the Madrid train slaughters, will pay the f#cking price for what he was done. His crimes are clear and his death is forthcoming.

Nie Trink Wasser · 13th May 2004, 09:52 AM

but but but but but :

1 - what happened to the prisoners was so much worse !

2 - that's what those US slimeballs get for taking those pictures !

3 - it was faked by the US government !

4 - it was faked !

5 - stop talking about it, it's distracting from the investigation that been happening since Jan 16 !

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

Zarqawi, who is also supsected in the Madrid train slaughters, will pay the f#cking price for what he was done. His crimes are clear and his death is forthcoming.

Yeah. The CIA is never wrong, afterall.

chrisberez · 13th May 2004, 10:04 AM

I just read this too. What puzzles me is-- well, correct me if I'm wrong, but on the tape, one of the men claims to be doing this in Zarqawi's name. So if he was going to claim responsibility in the first place, why conceil his identy?

I'm not disputing it was him, I just don't get it is all. In the same way I don't get the stupidity of photographing yourself violating the geneva convention.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by chrisberez
I just read this too. What puzzles me is-- well, correct me if I'm wrong, but on the tape, one of the men claims to be doing this in Zarqawi's name. So if he was going to claim responsibility in the first place, why conceil his identy?

I'm not disputing it was him, I just don't get it is all. In the same way I don't get the stupidity of photographing yourself violating the geneva convention.

NO. The title on the video says that Zarqawi did it.

MARK MY WORDS: Zarqawi will pay the ultimate price for his crimes against America.

rikzilla · 13th May 2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

NO. The title on the video says that Zarqawi did it.

MARK MY WORDS: Zarqawi will pay the ultimate price for his crimes against America.

What ultimate price? The deck is stacked in his favor.

Kill him, and he's a holy martyr...he wins.
Capture him and try him,...he gets a lawyer and puts the US on trial instead,....like what Saddam's lawyers are planning....he wins.
Execute him (likely by lethal injection)..he dies painlessly, AND still becomes holy martyr...he wins.

...or are you suggesting that he'll end up with a chemlight up his a$$ @ Abu Ghraib?? Gee, I don't think we do that anymore!

Religious fanatics will never be wrong, and will win even as they lose....get used to it. Zarqawi will likely never have his head slowly sawed off....but he deserves it.

-z

Tmy · 13th May 2004, 11:04 AM

I thought I heard that AL Zar was a 1/2 cripple or sumthin? Are they sure it was him.

Let me do the flip side Nie,

1) we shouldnt release the pictures. Its killing americans.

2) release the film of the beheading, we need to see whats really going on.

3) the liberals are glad this happened.

4) this is Kerrys fault

5) This is Clintons fault.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by rikzilla
Zarqawi will likely never have his head slowly sawed off....but he deserves it.

If he is guilty.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by DanishDynamite
If he is guilty.

He has accepted responsibility for enough crimes to string that b*tch up. Believe me, Bush will bring him to justice.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by rikzilla

What ultimate price? The deck is stacked in his favor.
Kill him, and he's a holy martyr...he wins.

Capture him and try him,...he gets a lawyer and puts the US on trial instead,....like what Saddam's lawyers are planning....he wins.

Execute him (likely by lethal injection)..he dies painlessly, AND still becomes holy martyr...he wins.

Whatever, he will be KILLED by U.S. commandos. He won't get Saddam's treatment. He will be KILLED ON SIGHT.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

He has accepted responsibility for enough crimes to string that b*tch up.

Great. But was he responsible for this one?

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Believe me, Bush will bring him to justice.

I hope not. I'd rather see Kerry do it.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by DanishDynamite
Great. But was he responsible for this one?
I hope not. I'd rather see Kerry do it.

You can wish that fairies will sprinkle fairy dust on your car to improve your gas milage, but none of that sh*t will work,

Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it.

Tmy · 13th May 2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

Whatever, he will be KILLED by U.S. commandos. He won't get Saddam's treatment. He will be KILLED ON SIGHT.

Wouldnt it be better to catch him. maybe squeeze some info out of him. Or at the least destroy his msytique like they did with Saddam and those pictures of him all dirty and humiliated.

Isnt this guy one of the most wanted already?? Is he now really really wanted!

Tmy · 13th May 2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it.

You're kidding right? Who has he annihilated? Al Queda? Cause they seem to be up to their terror nonsense more than ever.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Tmy

Wouldnt it be better to catch him. maybe squeeze some info out of him. Or at the least destroy his msytique like they did with Saddam and those pictures of him all dirty and humiliated.

Isnt this guy one of the most wanted already?? Is he now really really wanted!

Sure, he is going to get humiliated and questioned just like Sheik "Ron Jeremy" Mohammed was.

That fat fu(k fessed up a lot of useful information that led to dozens of arrests.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

You can wish that fairies will sprinkle fairy dust on your car to improve your gas milage, but none of that sh*t will work,

I agree.

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Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it.

Substitute Al-Zarqawi for Bush and you have the mindset of a fundamentalist.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by DanishDynamite
I agree.
Substitute Al-Zarqawi for Bush and you have the mindset of a fundamentalist.

No. Only one man has the balls to take on and KILL all of our foes -- BUSH.

The rest of the pussies will only talk about fighting in "degrees".

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

No. Only one man has the balls to take on and KILL all of our foes -- BUSH.

The rest of the pussies will only talk about fighting in "degrees".

QED.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by DanishDynamite
QED.

That's the bottom line.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

That's the bottom line.

The only objectively true statement from you so far.

CFLarsen · 13th May 2004, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn
Whatever, he will be KILLED by U.S. commandos. He won't get Saddam's treatment. He will be KILLED ON SIGHT.

You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed.

Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal.

He cannot lose. Get that through your skull.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by CFLarsen

You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed.

Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal.

He cannot lose. Get that through your skull.

Already noted by rikzilla, Claus.

Sane · 13th May 2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by CFLarsen

...

He cannot lose. Get that through your skull.

Perhaps from his perspective. He'll get his 74 virgins. We'll (the US) will get justice and one less fundamentalist slime ball to deal with.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by CFLarsen

You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed.

Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal.

He cannot lose. Get that through your skull.

NO, he is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't really believe in Islam. He is politically motivated. He is a liar and a piece of SH*T.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

NO, he is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't really believe in Islam. He is politically motivated. He is a liar and a piece of SH*T.

Are you a close friend of Jedi Knight?

Marian · 13th May 2004, 01:07 PM

What happened to getting Osama?

/sigh

And you're missing the point. Whatever he REALLY believes you don't know, and neither do I. I'm not in the man's head. However it's pretty fricken obvious he does believe in his 'cause'.

As others have pointed out very clearly...he's killed, it furthers his cause. He's not killed, it furthers his cause. He's not captured, he'll continue doing stuff to further his cause.

So as far as the 'ultimate price' yeah you can argue that after killing someone you've done the 'ultimate' to them, but it's not as though that's a big deal to an extremist who only cares about 'their cause'.

And let's imagine in fantasy land that tomorrow some sniper puts a bullet in his brain. Sure, he's dead, and considering what he's done the death penalty isn't an issue for most people. However, what exactly does that do for the larger problem? Not much.

It just strikes me as ultimately ironic and sad that some people scream for blood in the streets but when the 'enemy' does the same they're barbarians and monsters, yet they can't or won't see the monstrosity of their own blood lust. I'm not saying that's you specifically, but I wander around and if I see one more 'NUKE 'EM ALL!!!1111' comment from the various peanut galleries my head is going to just pop.

EDIT: I thought I had quoted Errol Flynn, but I didn't, I was responding to his comments though. I lose at SQL coding. ;(

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by CFLarsen

You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed.

Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal.

Sure, just like that fat liar Sadr. He talks a lot of ****, but everytime the miltary moves in on him, he BACKS DOWN LIKE A BITCH.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

Sure, just like that fat liar Sadr. He talks a lot of s**t, but everytime the miltary moves in on him, he BACKS DOWN LIKE A BITCH.

*Sigh*

How old are you, Errol?

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 01:26 PM

Sadr is a liar,

CFLarsen · 13th May 2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn
NO, he is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't really believe in Islam. He is politically motivated. He is a liar and a piece of SH*T.

You obviously don't get it.

It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a fraud. It doesn't matter if he "really" believes in Islam. It doesn't matter if he is politically motivated - who isn't? It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a piece of sh*t.

What matters is that he has chosen to become a martyr. He will achieve that goal. His own life means nothing to him. His victims mean nothing to him. All he cares about is becoming a martyr.

This guy is so empty inside that his only salvation lies in his own death. He will lie, he will cheat, and he will kill to achieve his goal.

But he will succeed. How can he fail? That is the major attraction of martyrs - they cannot possibly fail.

Errol Flynn · 13th May 2004, 01:31 PM

Okay, your are RIGHT.

DanishDynamite · 13th May 2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by CFLarsen

You obviously don't get it.

It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a fraud. It doesn't matter if he "really" believes in Islam. It doesn't matter if he is politically motivated - who isn't? It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a piece of sh*t.

What matters is that he has chosen to become a martyr. He will achieve that goal. His own life means nothing to him. His victims mean nothing to him. All he cares about is becoming a martyr.

This guy is so empty inside that his only salvation lies in his own death. He will lie, he will cheat, and he will kill to achieve his goal.

But he will succeed. How can he fail? That is the major attraction of martyrs - they cannot possibly fail.

Well said, my Red friend.

Ralph · 13th May 2004, 03:20 PM

For people who WANT to be martyrs----they seem to spend an awful lot of time running & hiding.

I think if I wanted to die a glorious martyrs death I'd be putting myself in harms way, not hiding in mosques or behind children.

I think they're more interested in getting the other guy to play the martyr..................

LucyR · 13th May 2004, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn

Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it.

Not very effectively it would seem.

demon · 13th May 2004, 05:36 PM

Who is Zarqawi?
Well, what do we know about him? Firstly, he's Jordanian and pretty active for a dead guy - some sources reckon he was killed in the US attack on Iraq last year. He's said to have lost a leg.
He's ace with computers and a fast typist - could easily work as a temp - with a 'dear diary' habit. He's also a tad forgetful - he word-processed a long screed setting out his hopes and plans for jihad in Iraq and then carelessly left the disk for the Americans to find.

The loss of a leg is no barrier to his travelling the length and breadth of Iraq to plant bombs - he's obviously an explosives expert. Luckily, no Iraqi ever remembers a one-legged Jordanian buying vast quantities of C4 so I guess he must be a practitioner of some sort of mind control.

All-in-all, the guy's impressive - CIA material you might say.

Ed · 13th May 2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by CFLarsen

You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed.

Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal.

He cannot lose. Get that through your skull.

Dunno. He and Ozzie seem to be acting like they really don't want all of those virgins anytime soon.

Mycroft · 13th May 2004, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by demon
All-in-all, the guy's impressive - CIA material you might say.

When in doubt, blame the CIA.

Regnad Kcin · 13th May 2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by Errol Flynn
Sure, just like that fat liar Sadr. He talks a lot of s**t, but everytime the miltary moves in on him, he BACKS DOWN LIKE A BITCH.

I'm getting a 'G' here. Does that mean anything to you? And a 'P'. Somebody close to you. Definitely. Anyone you know? This person is coming through strongly.

CFLarsen · 13th May 2004, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Ralph
For people who WANT to be martyrs----they seem to spend an awful lot of time running & hiding.

I think if I wanted to die a glorious martyrs death I'd be putting myself in harms way, not hiding in mosques or behind children.

I think they're more interested in getting the other guy to play the martyr..................

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Originally posted by Ed
Dunno. He and Ozzie seem to be acting like they really don't want all of those virgins anytime soon.

Yes. Yes. Yes. This is one of the ways we can show just how sick this martyr business is: Why do these sanctimonious leaders hide their faces? Why are they running away? Why are they hiding like rats? Why do they let children blow themselves up instead of blowing up their own bodies?

I'd love to hear answers to those questions.

Bottle or the Gun · 14th May 2004, 04:47 AM

Who cares if he is a martyr? He and his buddies get wacked, we win and then we can get on to making the next martyr to die for the cause. Pretty soon, we'll run out of guys willing to sacrifice. One of the great victories in dealing with Qadaffi way back when was that he and his country got spanked so hard he was running out of volunteers willing to sacrifice.

13th May 2004, 09:48 AM	#1
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Al-Zarqawi did the Beheading. HE WILL PAY THE PRICE. Quote: CIA Says Al-Zarqawi Beheaded Berg in Iraq By KATHERINE PFLEGER SHRADER, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was the person shown on a video beheading an American civilian in Iraq, based on an analysis of the voice on the video, a CIA official said Thursday. Intelligence officials conducted a technical analysis of the video released on an Islamic web site May 11 and determined "with high probability" that the person shown speaking on the tape — wearing a head scarf and a ski mask — is al-Zarqawi, a CIA official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. The person who is shown speaking in the video — determined to be al-Zarqawi — is then shown on the video decapitating American citizen Nicholas Berg, the official said. LINK Zarqawi, who is also supsected in the Madrid train slaughters, will pay the f#cking price for what he was done. His crimes are clear and his death is forthcoming.
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13th May 2004, 09:52 AM	#2
Nie Trink Wasser Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,333	but but but but but : 1 - what happened to the prisoners was so much worse ! 2 - that's what those US slimeballs get for taking those pictures ! 3 - it was faked by the US government ! 4 - it was faked ! 5 - stop talking about it, it's distracting from the investigation that been happening since Jan 16 !
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DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Re: Al-Zarqawi did the Beheading. HE WILL PAY THE PRICE. Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn Zarqawi, who is also supsected in the Madrid train slaughters, will pay the f#cking price for what he was done. His crimes are clear and his death is forthcoming. Yeah. The CIA is never wrong, afterall.

13th May 2004, 10:04 AM	#4
chrisberez Thinker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 234	I just read this too. What puzzles me is-- well, correct me if I'm wrong, but on the tape, one of the men claims to be doing this in Zarqawi's name. So if he was going to claim responsibility in the first place, why conceil his identy? I'm not disputing it was him, I just don't get it is all. In the same way I don't get the stupidity of photographing yourself violating the geneva convention.
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13th May 2004, 10:12 AM	#5
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by chrisberez I just read this too. What puzzles me is-- well, correct me if I'm wrong, but on the tape, one of the men claims to be doing this in Zarqawi's name. So if he was going to claim responsibility in the first place, why conceil his identy? I'm not disputing it was him, I just don't get it is all. In the same way I don't get the stupidity of photographing yourself violating the geneva convention. NO. The title on the video says that Zarqawi did it. MARK MY WORDS: Zarqawi will pay the ultimate price for his crimes against America.
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13th May 2004, 10:41 AM	#6
rikzilla Ninja wave: Atomic fire-breath ninja Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,001	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn NO. The title on the video says that Zarqawi did it. MARK MY WORDS: Zarqawi will pay the ultimate price for his crimes against America. What ultimate price? The deck is stacked in his favor. Kill him, and he's a holy martyr...he wins. Capture him and try him,...he gets a lawyer and puts the US on trial instead,....like what Saddam's lawyers are planning....he wins. Execute him (likely by lethal injection)..he dies painlessly, AND still becomes holy martyr...he wins. ...or are you suggesting that he'll end up with a chemlight up his a$$ @ Abu Ghraib?? Gee, I don't think we do that anymore! Religious fanatics will never be wrong, and will win even as they lose....get used to it. Zarqawi will likely never have his head slowly sawed off....but he deserves it. -z
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13th May 2004, 11:04 AM	#7
Tmy Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 6,489	I thought I heard that AL Zar was a 1/2 cripple or sumthin? Are they sure it was him. Let me do the flip side Nie, 1) we shouldnt release the pictures. Its killing americans. 2) release the film of the beheading, we need to see whats really going on. 3) the liberals are glad this happened. 4) this is Kerrys fault 5) This is Clintons fault.
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13th May 2004, 11:09 AM	#8
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by rikzilla Zarqawi will likely never have his head slowly sawed off....but he deserves it. If he is guilty.

13th May 2004, 11:21 AM	#9
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by DanishDynamite If he is guilty. He has accepted responsibility for enough crimes to string that b*tch up. Believe me, Bush will bring him to justice.
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13th May 2004, 11:23 AM	#10
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by rikzilla What ultimate price? The deck is stacked in his favor. Kill him, and he's a holy martyr...he wins. Capture him and try him,...he gets a lawyer and puts the US on trial instead,....like what Saddam's lawyers are planning....he wins. Execute him (likely by lethal injection)..he dies painlessly, AND still becomes holy martyr...he wins. Whatever, he will be KILLED by U.S. commandos. He won't get Saddam's treatment. He will be KILLED ON SIGHT.
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13th May 2004, 11:24 AM	#11
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn *He has accepted responsibility for enough crimes to string that btch up.** Great. But was he responsible for this one? Quote: Believe me, Bush will bring him to justice. I hope not. I'd rather see Kerry do it.

13th May 2004, 11:29 AM	#12
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by DanishDynamite Great. But was he responsible for this one? I hope not. I'd rather see Kerry do it. You can wish that fairies will sprinkle fairy dust on your car to improve your gas milage, but none of that sh*t will work, Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it.
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13th May 2004, 11:31 AM	#13
Tmy Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 6,489	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn Whatever, he will be KILLED by U.S. commandos. He won't get Saddam's treatment. He will be KILLED ON SIGHT. Wouldnt it be better to catch him. maybe squeeze some info out of him. Or at the least destroy his msytique like they did with Saddam and those pictures of him all dirty and humiliated. Isnt this guy one of the most wanted already?? Is he now really really wanted!
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13th May 2004, 11:33 AM	#14
Tmy Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 6,489	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it. You're kidding right? Who has he annihilated? Al Queda? Cause they seem to be up to their terror nonsense more than ever.
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13th May 2004, 11:36 AM	#15
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by Tmy Wouldnt it be better to catch him. maybe squeeze some info out of him. Or at the least destroy his msytique like they did with Saddam and those pictures of him all dirty and humiliated. Isnt this guy one of the most wanted already?? Is he now really really wanted! Sure, he is going to get humiliated and questioned just like Sheik "Ron Jeremy" Mohammed was. That fat fu(k fessed up a lot of useful information that led to dozens of arrests.
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13th May 2004, 11:39 AM	#16
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn *You can wish that fairies will sprinkle fairy dust on your car to improve your gas milage, but none of that sht will work,** I agree. Quote: Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it. Substitute Al-Zarqawi for Bush and you have the mindset of a fundamentalist.

13th May 2004, 11:57 AM	#17
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by DanishDynamite I agree. Substitute Al-Zarqawi for Bush and you have the mindset of a fundamentalist. No. Only one man has the balls to take on and KILL all of our foes -- BUSH. The rest of the pussies will only talk about fighting in "degrees".
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13th May 2004, 12:06 PM	#18
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn No. Only one man has the balls to take on and KILL all of our foes -- BUSH. The rest of the pussies will only talk about fighting in "degrees". QED.

13th May 2004, 12:16 PM	#19
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by DanishDynamite QED. That's the bottom line.
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13th May 2004, 12:29 PM	#20
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn That's the bottom line. The only objectively true statement from you so far.

13th May 2004, 12:39 PM	#21
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn Whatever, he will be KILLED by U.S. commandos. He won't get Saddam's treatment. He will be KILLED ON SIGHT. You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed. Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal. He cannot lose. Get that through your skull.
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13th May 2004, 12:42 PM	#22
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed. Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal. He cannot lose. Get that through your skull. Already noted by rikzilla, Claus.

13th May 2004, 12:50 PM	#23
Sane Scholar Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 71	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen ... He cannot lose. Get that through your skull. Perhaps from his perspective. He'll get his 74 virgins. We'll (the US) will get justice and one less fundamentalist slime ball to deal with.
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13th May 2004, 12:56 PM	#24
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed. Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal. He cannot lose. Get that through your skull. NO, he is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't really believe in Islam. He is politically motivated. He is a liar and a piece of SH*T.
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13th May 2004, 01:06 PM	#25
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn *NO, he is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't really believe in Islam. He is politically motivated. He is a liar and a piece of SHT.** Are you a close friend of Jedi Knight?

13th May 2004, 01:07 PM	#26
Marian Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 455	What happened to getting Osama? /sigh And you're missing the point. Whatever he REALLY believes you don't know, and neither do I. I'm not in the man's head. However it's pretty fricken obvious he does believe in his 'cause'. As others have pointed out very clearly...he's killed, it furthers his cause. He's not killed, it furthers his cause. He's not captured, he'll continue doing stuff to further his cause. So as far as the 'ultimate price' yeah you can argue that after killing someone you've done the 'ultimate' to them, but it's not as though that's a big deal to an extremist who only cares about 'their cause'. And let's imagine in fantasy land that tomorrow some sniper puts a bullet in his brain. Sure, he's dead, and considering what he's done the death penalty isn't an issue for most people. However, what exactly does that do for the larger problem? Not much. It just strikes me as ultimately ironic and sad that some people scream for blood in the streets but when the 'enemy' does the same they're barbarians and monsters, yet they can't or won't see the monstrosity of their own blood lust. I'm not saying that's you specifically, but I wander around and if I see one more 'NUKE 'EM ALL!!!1111' comment from the various peanut galleries my head is going to just pop. EDIT: I thought I had quoted Errol Flynn, but I didn't, I was responding to his comments though. I lose at SQL coding. ;(
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13th May 2004, 01:10 PM	#27
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen You really don't get it. This guy doesn't care if he is killed. He wants to be killed. Whatever happens to him, he is guaranteed to be a martyr. That is his goal. Sure, just like that fat liar Sadr. He talks a lot of ****, but everytime the miltary moves in on him, he BACKS DOWN LIKE A BITCH.
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65

13th May 2004, 01:14 PM	#28
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn Sure, just like that fat liar Sadr. He talks a lot of st, but everytime the miltary moves in on him, he BACKS DOWN LIKE A BITCH.** Sigh How old are you, Errol?

13th May 2004, 01:26 PM	#29
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Sadr is a liar,
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65

13th May 2004, 01:27 PM	#30
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn *NO, he is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't really believe in Islam. He is politically motivated. He is a liar and a piece of SHT.** You obviously don't get it. It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a fraud. It doesn't matter if he "really" believes in Islam. It doesn't matter if he is politically motivated - who isn't? It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a piece of sht. What matters is that he has chosen* to become a martyr. He will achieve that goal. His own life means nothing to him. His victims mean nothing to him. All he cares about is becoming a martyr. This guy is so empty inside that his only salvation lies in his own death. He will lie, he will cheat, and he will kill to achieve his goal. But he will succeed. How can he fail? That is the major attraction of martyrs - they cannot possibly fail.
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13th May 2004, 01:31 PM	#31
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65	Okay, your are RIGHT.
Errol Flynn Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 65

13th May 2004, 01:43 PM	#32
DanishDynamite Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In the cold Posts: 10,802	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen You obviously don't get it. It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a fraud. It doesn't matter if he "really" believes in Islam. It doesn't matter if he is politically motivated - who isn't? It doesn't matter if he is a liar and a piece of sht. What matters is that he has chosen* to become a martyr. He will achieve that goal. His own life means nothing to him. His victims mean nothing to him. All he cares about is becoming a martyr. This guy is so empty inside that his only salvation lies in his own death. He will lie, he will cheat, and he will kill to achieve his goal. But he will succeed. How can he fail? That is the major attraction of martyrs - they cannot possibly fail. Well said, my Red friend.

13th May 2004, 03:20 PM	#33
Ralph Muse Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: S.E. Mass....... Posts: 997	For people who WANT to be martyrs----they seem to spend an awful lot of time running & hiding. I think if I wanted to die a glorious martyrs death I'd be putting myself in harms way, not hiding in mosques or behind children. I think they're more interested in getting the other guy to play the martyr..................

13th May 2004, 05:32 PM	#34
LucyR Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,086	Quote: Originally posted by Errol Flynn Only annihilation of our foes will work, and BUSH is doing it. Not very effectively it would seem.
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13th May 2004, 05:36 PM	#35
demon Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,744	Who is Zarqawi? Well, what do we know about him? Firstly, he's Jordanian and pretty active for a dead guy - some sources reckon he was killed in the US attack on Iraq last year. He's said to have lost a leg. He's ace with computers and a fast typist - could easily work as a temp - with a 'dear diary' habit. He's also a tad forgetful - he word-processed a long screed setting out his hopes and plans for jihad in Iraq and then carelessly left the disk for the Americans to find. The loss of a leg is no barrier to his travelling the length and breadth of Iraq to plant bombs - he's obviously an explosives expert. Luckily, no Iraqi ever remembers a one-legged Jordanian buying vast quantities of C4 so I guess he must be a practitioner of some sort of mind control. All-in-all, the guy's impressive - CIA material you might say.
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