The Neuroscience of Psychic Phenomena

Limbo · 7th March 2012, 07:41 AM

Esoteric Voices 9: Neuroscience of Psychic Phenomena

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"Powell theorizes that the evolution of dreaming and psychic phenomena developed simultaneously as a defense mechanism so that baby mammals who are in a REM-state would be able to psychically connect to their mothers if there was an imminent threat to their safety. She also likes David Bohm's theory of the universe as a dynamic hologram that allows humans to access information about the universe by going within. Finally, she talks about her hopes to be able to lessen the taboo for patients to be able to talk about their psychic experiences within the context of the psychiatric fields."

Hey guys I heard you like podcasts and psychic stuff so here you go, enjoy!

http://evolver.s3.amazonaws.com/site...cVoices009.mp3

Goshawk · 7th March 2012, 07:58 AM

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Powell theorizes that the evolution of dreaming and psychic phenomena developed simultaneously as a defense mechanism so that baby mammals who are in a REM-state would be able to psychically connect to their mothers if there was an imminent threat to their safety.

And so this is why sleeping babies everywhere can psychically holler for help to Mommy if, for example, a rat climbs up into the baby's bed, or if an earthquake threatens?

I see.

Good to know the reason why I was continually being woken up by my three kids when they were babies by "Disaster is approaching! Save me!" bulletins. It seemed like there was always some crisis going on somewhere in the world that they interpreted, overly widely in my opinion, to threaten them personally; maybe they were just unusually sensitive to the psychic flow of disaster. I was glad when they all outgrew it and I could stop being woken up in the middle of the night and psychically informed about asteroid near-misses.

Jeff Corey · 7th March 2012, 08:04 AM

Wouldn't someone have to demonstrate psychic phenomena existed before looking for the neuroscience?

Czarcasm · 7th March 2012, 08:12 AM

I said this in a similar thread you started this morning, and I say it again: I'm not too keen on posters that start "Well, what do you thing of this?" threads but don't have the guts to give their own opinions on the topic, because if people support it the Original Poster is already at the front of the parade, and if it goes bad, the Original Poster can say "I didn't say I supported the idea-I was just putting it out there for discussion".

So, Limbo-What is your opinion of his theories?
"I find them (or him) interesting" will not be acceptable. People found Hitler "interesting", whether they supported him or hated him

Sledge · 8th March 2012, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Limbo

Hey guys I heard you like podcasts and psychic stuff

You heard wrong.

arthwollipot · 8th March 2012, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Limbo

Powell theorizes...

I stopped there.

Limbo · 8th March 2012, 05:23 AM

Wow, I'm disappointed in you Art. Oh well onto the ignore list with all the other pseudo-skeptics you go...

Jeff Corey · 8th March 2012, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

I stopped there.

Reminds me of, " It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."

Like I said before, it seems silly to look for the neuroscientific basis of a phenomeon that has not been shown to exist.
Why not study the biochemistry of ectoplasm, then?

Mashuna · 8th March 2012, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Limbo

Wow, I'm disappointed in you Art. Oh well onto the ignore list with all the other pseudo-skeptics you go...

Have you been channelling Ufology?

Aepervius · 8th March 2012, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by Limbo

Esoteric Voices 9: Neuroscience of Psychic Phenomena

[...]

"Powell theorizes that the evolution of dreaming and psychic phenomena developed simultaneously as a defense mechanism so that baby mammals who are in a REM-state would be able to psychically connect to their mothers if there was an imminent threat to their safety. She also likes David Bohm's theory of the universe as a dynamic hologram that allows humans to access information about the universe by going within. Finally, she talks about her hopes to be able to lessen the taboo for patients to be able to talk about their psychic experiences within the context of the psychiatric fields."

Hey guys I heard you like podcasts and psychic stuff so here you go, enjoy!

http://evolver.s3.amazonaws.com/site...cVoices009.mp3

Utter nonsense. before trying to come up with an explanation they better come up with evidence of a phenomena (hint : none really at the moment).

7th March 2012, 07:41 AM	#1
Limbo Jedi Consular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,000	The Neuroscience of Psychic Phenomena Esoteric Voices 9: Neuroscience of Psychic Phenomena [...] "Powell theorizes that the evolution of dreaming and psychic phenomena developed simultaneously as a defense mechanism so that baby mammals who are in a REM-state would be able to psychically connect to their mothers if there was an imminent threat to their safety. She also likes David Bohm's theory of the universe as a dynamic hologram that allows humans to access information about the universe by going within. Finally, she talks about her hopes to be able to lessen the taboo for patients to be able to talk about their psychic experiences within the context of the psychiatric fields." Hey guys I heard you like podcasts and psychic stuff so here you go, enjoy! http://evolver.s3.amazonaws.com/site...cVoices009.mp3
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7th March 2012, 08:12 AM	#4
Czarcasm Muse Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 976	I said this in a similar thread you started this morning, and I say it again: I'm not too keen on posters that start "Well, what do you thing of this?" threads but don't have the guts to give their own opinions on the topic, because if people support it the Original Poster is already at the front of the parade, and if it goes bad, the Original Poster can say "I didn't say I supported the idea-I was just putting it out there for discussion". So, Limbo-What is your opinion of his theories? "I find them (or him) interesting" will not be acceptable. People found Hitler "interesting", whether they supported him or hated him
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8th March 2012, 04:24 AM	#5
Sledge Grammaton Cleric Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Swingin' on a star Posts: 7,123	Originally Posted by Limbo Hey guys I heard you like podcasts and psychic stuff You heard wrong.
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8th March 2012, 04:26 AM	#6
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The other side of your screen Posts: 43,018	Originally Posted by Limbo Powell theorizes... I stopped there.
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8th March 2012, 05:23 AM	#7
Limbo Jedi Consular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,000	Wow, I'm disappointed in you Art. Oh well onto the ignore list with all the other pseudo-skeptics you go...
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7th March 2012, 07:58 AM	#2
Goshawk Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Decatur, Illinois, USA Posts: 1,453	Quote: Powell theorizes that the evolution of dreaming and psychic phenomena developed simultaneously as a defense mechanism so that baby mammals who are in a REM-state would be able to psychically connect to their mothers if there was an imminent threat to their safety. And so this is why sleeping babies everywhere can psychically holler for help to Mommy if, for example, a rat climbs up into the baby's bed, or if an earthquake threatens? I see. Good to know the reason why I was continually being woken up by my three kids when they were babies by "Disaster is approaching! Save me!" bulletins. It seemed like there was always some crisis going on somewhere in the world that they interpreted, overly widely in my opinion, to threaten them personally; maybe they were just unusually sensitive to the psychic flow of disaster. I was glad when they all outgrew it and I could stop being woken up in the middle of the night and psychically informed about asteroid near-misses.

7th March 2012, 08:04 AM	#3
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	Wouldn't someone have to demonstrate psychic phenomena existed before looking for the neuroscience?

8th March 2012, 05:43 AM	#8
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	Originally Posted by arthwollipot I stopped there. Reminds me of, " It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." Like I said before, it seems silly to look for the neuroscientific basis of a phenomeon that has not been shown to exist. Why not study the biochemistry of ectoplasm, then?

8th March 2012, 05:49 AM	#9
Mashuna Ovis ex Machina Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Welsh Wales Posts: 6,581	Originally Posted by Limbo Wow, I'm disappointed in you Art. Oh well onto the ignore list with all the other pseudo-skeptics you go... Have you been channelling Ufology?

8th March 2012, 06:12 AM	#10
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,756	Originally Posted by Limbo Esoteric Voices 9: Neuroscience of Psychic Phenomena [...] "Powell theorizes that the evolution of dreaming and psychic phenomena developed simultaneously as a defense mechanism so that baby mammals who are in a REM-state would be able to psychically connect to their mothers if there was an imminent threat to their safety. She also likes David Bohm's theory of the universe as a dynamic hologram that allows humans to access information about the universe by going within. Finally, she talks about her hopes to be able to lessen the taboo for patients to be able to talk about their psychic experiences within the context of the psychiatric fields." Hey guys I heard you like podcasts and psychic stuff so here you go, enjoy! http://evolver.s3.amazonaws.com/site...cVoices009.mp3 Utter nonsense. before trying to come up with an explanation they better come up with evidence of a phenomena (hint : none really at the moment).
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