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Mondial · 16th March 2012, 04:21 PM

Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html
Everything he condemned in Hitler - one party state, dictatorship, secret police, concentration camps, press censorship - he supported in Stalin. Apologists for FDR state that this was because of the wartime alliance with the USSR. This is a lie. One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration in the field of foreign affairs was to give diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union. This was at the same time - 1933 - that Stalin was starving 10 million Ukrainians to death www.holodomor.org which the US government knew all about. Also during the Spanish civil war instead of being neutral and supporting neither side Roosevelt openly sided with the Repubicans who had many communists in their ranks and who had received arms and ammunition from Stalin. Roosevelt spoke of "democracy" when in reality he helped extend soviet communist dictatorship over half of Europe. It was FDR who came up with the idea of unconditional surrender instead of a negotiated peace which prolonged the war leading to millions of casualties on both sides. Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached.

Piscivore · 16th March 2012, 04:32 PM

Washington was a slave owner. Let's hang him!

MG1962 · 16th March 2012, 04:33 PM

Almost immediately upon taking office, however, President Roosevelt moved to establish formal diplomatic relations between the United States and the Soviet Union. His reasons for doing so were complex, but the decision was based on several primary factors. Roosevelt hoped that recognition of the Soviet Union would serve U.S.strategic interests by limiting Japanese expansionism in Asia, and he believed that full diplomatic recognition would serve American commercial interests in the Soviet Union, a matter of some concern to an Administration grappling with the effects of the Great Depression. Finally, the United States was the only major power that continued to withhold official diplomatic recognition from the Soviet Union.

fuelair · 16th March 2012, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html
Everything he condemned in Hitler - one party state, dictatorship, secret police, concentration camps, press censorship - he supported in Stalin. Apologists for FDR state that this was because of the wartime alliance with the USSR. This is a lie. One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration in the field of foreign affairs was to give diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union. This was at the same time - 1933 - that Stalin was starving 10 million Ukrainians to death www.holodomor.org which the US government knew all about. Also during the Spanish civil war instead of being neutral and supporting neither side Roosevelt openly sided with the Repubicans who had many communists in their ranks and who had received arms and ammunition from Stalin. Roosevelt spoke of "democracy" when in reality he helped extend soviet communist dictatorship over half of Europe. It was FDR who came up with the idea of unconditional surrender instead of a negotiated peace which prolonged the war leading to millions of casualties on both sides. Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached.

Yawn. (no offense, but ......)

uke2se · 16th March 2012, 06:37 PM

I see an OP filled with lies. I see the lies supported with crack-pot websites. I chose to ridicule the OP.

Generic ridicule.

Mondial · 16th March 2012, 06:42 PM

Roosevelt was very thin skinned. In true communist fashion he came up with the idea of a soviet type show trial to imprison critics of his warmongering and pro communist policies all the while hypocritically claiming world war 2 was being fought for democracy including freedom of speech. http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Great_S..._Trial_of_1944

Kid Eager · 16th March 2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Roosevelt was very thin skinned. In true communist fashion he came up with the idea of a soviet type show trial to imprison critics of his warmongering and pro communist policies all the while hypocritically claiming world war 2 was being fought for democracy including freedom of speech. http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Great_S..._Trial_of_1944

Well you're certainly predictable in your postings. We get it - you hate Roosevelt and believe the Holocaust was faked. Try something new or original or *shock* with actual evidence....

Piscivore · 16th March 2012, 07:57 PM

Tell you what, Roosevelt died before my father was born, Stalin followed not long after, and the Soviet Union fell before my now-adult kid was born. What's next, you gonna start bitching about the Teapot Dome scandal? Who the hell cares?

When you catch up to this century, let me know.

Border Reiver · 16th March 2012, 08:18 PM

No, he will shockingly hint that certain Canadian politicians accepted money from railway interests to buy votes and then secure lucrative contracts. Granted this was the 1870s....

kookbreaker · 16th March 2012, 08:19 PM

Amazing. Some Republican's give Dems grief about not being able to let go of the Bush the Younger administration - and then some folks can't even let go of a Presidency that ended 65+ years ago.

These people are really in a funk that FDR was elected - four times.

TimCallahan · 16th March 2012, 08:30 PM

The Roosevelt administration instituted the Fair Labor Relations Act. This gave us the 40 hour week, minimum wage, legalization of labor unions and the right to strike. is this communism?

Mark R · 16th March 2012, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Amazing. Some Republican's give Dems grief about not being able to let go of the Bush the Younger administration - and then some folks can't even let go of a Presidency that ended 65+ years ago.

These people are really in a funk that FDR was elected - four times.

I was getting my hair cut when the topic of discussion with the stylist turned to politics. She mentioned how she hates (I mean HATES) FDR. One of the main reasons being because FDR caused the Great Depression.

I should mention this in Orange County, CA which is one of the few conservative bastions in Southern California.

In the course of the same conversation I had to adamantly state we did not evolve from monkeys and that “evolution is 'just' a theory” is not quite the counterpoint she thinks it is.

I had to ask where she gets this crap from, which is generally ill advised to ask of someone holding scissors.

Mark R · 16th March 2012, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by TimCallahan

The Roosevelt administration instituted the Fair Labor Relations Act. This gave us the 40 hour week, minimum wage, legalization of labor unions and the right to strike. is this communism?

I know people who would certainly call it socialism (in a negative context) and yet are happy to benefit from these protections. The disconnect between what people rail against and what they benefit from is sometimes staggering.

I have a coworker who argues that what is wrong with the economy is that government (federal and state) is too big and unions are to blame. The irony being he is a teacher now and before that was in law enforcement. So he has been on the government payroll and protected by strong unions most of his career.

If he seriously believed his own reasoning shouldn't he quit and get a job in the private sector?

tsig · 16th March 2012, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html
Everything he condemned in Hitler - one party state, dictatorship, secret police, concentration camps, press censorship - he supported in Stalin. Apologists for FDR state that this was because of the wartime alliance with the USSR. This is a lie. One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration in the field of foreign affairs was to give diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union. This was at the same time - 1933 - that Stalin was starving 10 million Ukrainians to death www.holodomor.org which the US government knew all about. Also during the Spanish civil war instead of being neutral and supporting neither side Roosevelt openly sided with the Repubicans who had many communists in their ranks and who had received arms and ammunition from Stalin. Roosevelt spoke of "democracy" when in reality he helped extend soviet communist dictatorship over half of Europe. It was FDR who came up with the idea of unconditional surrender instead of a negotiated peace which prolonged the war leading to millions of casualties on both sides. Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached.

Too late, he's dead.

tsig · 16th March 2012, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by TimCallahan

The Roosevelt administration instituted the Fair Labor Relations Act. This gave us the 40 hour week, minimum wage, legalization of labor unions and the right to strike. is this communism?

Anything that interferes with the absolute right of employers is communistic.

Employees should be grateful to be allowed to work and should love their employers and be happy to kiss the boot that kicks them.

Tomtomkent · 16th March 2012, 11:01 PM

FDR opened diplomatic relationships with Stalin precisely so he could find a way to end the horrible actions you accuse him of condoning. For the same reason the regimes of Pol Pot and mister Mugabe were recognised. Please stop being silly now.

BaaBaa · 16th March 2012, 11:02 PM

"Come along. We're going to the Trans-Lux to hiss Roosevelt."

Sword_Of_Truth · 16th March 2012, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html

That's where I stopped reading.

If your best source is a Holocaust denial site, then it's not worth any consideration.

Hans · 16th March 2012, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by uke2se

I see an OP filled with lies. I see the lies supported with crack-pot websites. I chose to ridicule the OP.

Generic ridicule.

I see your generic ridicule and raise a rash of distain and call it nonsense (the op)

Kestrel · 17th March 2012, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mark R

I was getting my hair cut when the topic of discussion with the stylist turned to politics. She mentioned how she hates (I mean HATES) FDR. One of the main reasons being because FDR caused the Great Depression.

I hear that from time to time. Most often from people that want to tell me why gold in the only true money. Somehow the Great Depression started in 1929 because FDR took office in 1933.

The propaganda artists of the right are masters at rewriting history.

Kestrel · 17th March 2012, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Tomtomkent

FDR opened diplomatic relationships with Stalin precisely so he could find a way to end the horrible actions you accuse him of condoning.

An old Bircher claim is that the initials JS on the Roosevelt dime were put there to honor Joseph Stalin.

Cleon · 17th March 2012, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth

That's where I stopped reading.

If your best source is a Holocaust denial site, then it's not worth any consideration.

He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia.

MG1962 · 17th March 2012, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Cleon

He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia.

Which by the way has an excellent article on the Beatles song Get Back, then tells us the original version of the song (complete with lost lyrics) is about Lennon's hatred of Pakistanis

Sword_Of_Truth · 17th March 2012, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Cleon

He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia.

Yes, I see that now. I'm glad I stopped reading.

CORed · 17th March 2012, 10:33 AM

Whatever one may think about FDR's New Deal policies during the Great Depression (and I am kind of ambivalent about them), his leadership during WWII, IMO makes him one of the great American presidents. Of course, a Neo-Nazi would probably disagree with me.

MG1962 · 17th March 2012, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

Whatever one may think about FDR's New Deal policies during the Great Depression (and I am kind of ambivalent about them), his leadership during WWII, IMO makes him one of the great American presidents. Of course, a Neo-Nazi would probably disagree with me.

And thats really the extent of it isn't it

Gawdzilla · 17th March 2012, 04:37 PM

OP, I guess FDR duped the entire US public, except for you. Hats off!

Mondial · 17th March 2012, 04:43 PM

Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

MG1962 · 17th March 2012, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

LOL So once again Hitler is painted as the bad guy....Damn those Americans and their Jewish friends

cue Pearl Harbor conspiracy in 5 4 3 2 1

throw to camera two for Gawdzilla's rebutle in....................

Gazpacho · 17th March 2012, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist.

You say that like it would be a bad thing...

kookbreaker · 17th March 2012, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute.

In your gushing poetic over your love for Nazis you seem to have neglected that the 'territorial dispute' was Nazis wanting all of Polish land.

Quote:

FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. oh look more nazi-luving links

In other words, FDR might have suggested that maybe Poland shouldn't roll over like the Czeks.

Kid Eager · 17th March 2012, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

I don't see anywhere that Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger.

Perhaps you're confusing this forum with an alternative history one?

Walter Ego · 17th March 2012, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cleon

He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia.

Now it's the Institute for Historical Review. Obviously FDR got us into WW2 to appease the Jews. Why else would we have stood up against Fascism and naked aggression in Europe?

Captain_Swoop · 17th March 2012, 06:23 PM

That would make Churchill a Communist as well then.

BravesFan · 17th March 2012, 06:31 PM

Let me guess the protocols of the elders of zion were the key?

Garrison · 17th March 2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Kid Eager

I don't see anywhere that Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger.

Perhaps you're confusing this forum with an alternative history one?

Well this would probably come under the heading of ASB.

BravesFan · 17th March 2012, 06:34 PM

Who is condemning him? 4 rednecks jacked up on meth and jack daniel's in their backyard?

A group of rebellious teenagers in Frankfurt?

Some guy named Eddie in his mom's basement in Queens?

Border Reiver · 17th March 2012, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

Sorry, the warmonger would still be Herr Schickelgruber who was making the territorial demands, positioning his armies and using spec ops people to cause an incident.

By this logic, if Canada made territorial demands on the US (say over part of Maine or the Alaskan Panhandle) and Mexico urged the US to stand firm on its territorial integrity and Canada then launched a war after prepositioning it's troops, ratcheting up international tensions with a propaganda war and finally faking a terrorist incident to justify the invasion, then the Mexican President would be the warmonger?

Craig4 · 17th March 2012, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Kid Eager

I don't see anywhere that Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger.

Perhaps you're confusing this forum with an alternative history one?

He's condemned as a war monger if you want to see all members of certain classes of people murdered. Interesting use of the word condemned.

SpringHallConvert · 18th March 2012, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Mondial

Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached.

No, shot, burned at the stake, and then hung.

I'm not sure this country has had a bigger POS in the White House than FDR.

16th March 2012, 04:21 PM	#1
Mondial Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 231	Roosevelt's Rotten Record:Communism, Treachery, Betrayal Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html Everything he condemned in Hitler - one party state, dictatorship, secret police, concentration camps, press censorship - he supported in Stalin. Apologists for FDR state that this was because of the wartime alliance with the USSR. This is a lie. One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration in the field of foreign affairs was to give diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union. This was at the same time - 1933 - that Stalin was starving 10 million Ukrainians to death www.holodomor.org which the US government knew all about. Also during the Spanish civil war instead of being neutral and supporting neither side Roosevelt openly sided with the Repubicans who had many communists in their ranks and who had received arms and ammunition from Stalin. Roosevelt spoke of "democracy" when in reality he helped extend soviet communist dictatorship over half of Europe. It was FDR who came up with the idea of unconditional surrender instead of a negotiated peace which prolonged the war leading to millions of casualties on both sides. Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached.
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16th March 2012, 04:32 PM	#2
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16th March 2012, 06:07 PM	#4
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,324	Originally Posted by Mondial Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html Everything he condemned in Hitler - one party state, dictatorship, secret police, concentration camps, press censorship - he supported in Stalin. Apologists for FDR state that this was because of the wartime alliance with the USSR. This is a lie. One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration in the field of foreign affairs was to give diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union. This was at the same time - 1933 - that Stalin was starving 10 million Ukrainians to death www.holodomor.org which the US government knew all about. Also during the Spanish civil war instead of being neutral and supporting neither side Roosevelt openly sided with the Repubicans who had many communists in their ranks and who had received arms and ammunition from Stalin. Roosevelt spoke of "democracy" when in reality he helped extend soviet communist dictatorship over half of Europe. It was FDR who came up with the idea of unconditional surrender instead of a negotiated peace which prolonged the war leading to millions of casualties on both sides. Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached. Yawn. (no offense, but ......)
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16th March 2012, 06:37 PM	#5
uke2se Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,229	I see an OP filled with lies. I see the lies supported with crack-pot websites. I chose to ridicule the OP. Generic ridicule.
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16th March 2012, 06:42 PM	#6
Mondial Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 231	Roosevelt was very thin skinned. In true communist fashion he came up with the idea of a soviet type show trial to imprison critics of his warmongering and pro communist policies all the while hypocritically claiming world war 2 was being fought for democracy including freedom of speech. http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Great_S..._Trial_of_1944
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16th March 2012, 04:33 PM	#3
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Almost immediately upon taking office, however, President Roosevelt moved to establish formal diplomatic relations between the United States and the Soviet Union. His reasons for doing so were complex, but the decision was based on several primary factors. Roosevelt hoped that recognition of the Soviet Union would serve U.S.strategic interests by limiting Japanese expansionism in Asia, and he believed that full diplomatic recognition would serve American commercial interests in the Soviet Union, a matter of some concern to an Administration grappling with the effects of the Great Depression. Finally, the United States was the only major power that continued to withhold official diplomatic recognition from the Soviet Union.

16th March 2012, 07:00 PM	#7
Kid Eager Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 3,567	Originally Posted by Mondial Roosevelt was very thin skinned. In true communist fashion he came up with the idea of a soviet type show trial to imprison critics of his warmongering and pro communist policies all the while hypocritically claiming world war 2 was being fought for democracy including freedom of speech. http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Great_S..._Trial_of_1944 Well you're certainly predictable in your postings. We get it - you hate Roosevelt and believe the Holocaust was faked. Try something new or original or shock with actual evidence....
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16th March 2012, 07:57 PM	#8
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16th March 2012, 08:18 PM	#9
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16th March 2012, 08:19 PM	#10
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,258	Amazing. Some Republican's give Dems grief about not being able to let go of the Bush the Younger administration - and then some folks can't even let go of a Presidency that ended 65+ years ago. These people are really in a funk that FDR was elected - four times.
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16th March 2012, 08:30 PM	#11
TimCallahan Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,213	The Roosevelt administration instituted the Fair Labor Relations Act. This gave us the 40 hour week, minimum wage, legalization of labor unions and the right to strike. is this communism?
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16th March 2012, 09:34 PM	#12
Mark R Thinker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 127	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Amazing. Some Republican's give Dems grief about not being able to let go of the Bush the Younger administration - and then some folks can't even let go of a Presidency that ended 65+ years ago. These people are really in a funk that FDR was elected - four times. I was getting my hair cut when the topic of discussion with the stylist turned to politics. She mentioned how she hates (I mean HATES) FDR. One of the main reasons being because FDR caused the Great Depression. I should mention this in Orange County, CA which is one of the few conservative bastions in Southern California. In the course of the same conversation I had to adamantly state we did not evolve from monkeys and that “evolution is 'just' a theory” is not quite the counterpoint she thinks it is. I had to ask where she gets this crap from, which is generally ill advised to ask of someone holding scissors.

16th March 2012, 09:48 PM	#13
Mark R Thinker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 127	Originally Posted by TimCallahan The Roosevelt administration instituted the Fair Labor Relations Act. This gave us the 40 hour week, minimum wage, legalization of labor unions and the right to strike. is this communism? I know people who would certainly call it socialism (in a negative context) and yet are happy to benefit from these protections. The disconnect between what people rail against and what they benefit from is sometimes staggering. I have a coworker who argues that what is wrong with the economy is that government (federal and state) is too big and unions are to blame. The irony being he is a teacher now and before that was in law enforcement. So he has been on the government payroll and protected by strong unions most of his career. If he seriously believed his own reasoning shouldn't he quit and get a job in the private sector?

16th March 2012, 10:45 PM	#14
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27,257	Originally Posted by Mondial Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html Everything he condemned in Hitler - one party state, dictatorship, secret police, concentration camps, press censorship - he supported in Stalin. Apologists for FDR state that this was because of the wartime alliance with the USSR. This is a lie. One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration in the field of foreign affairs was to give diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union. This was at the same time - 1933 - that Stalin was starving 10 million Ukrainians to death www.holodomor.org which the US government knew all about. Also during the Spanish civil war instead of being neutral and supporting neither side Roosevelt openly sided with the Repubicans who had many communists in their ranks and who had received arms and ammunition from Stalin. Roosevelt spoke of "democracy" when in reality he helped extend soviet communist dictatorship over half of Europe. It was FDR who came up with the idea of unconditional surrender instead of a negotiated peace which prolonged the war leading to millions of casualties on both sides. Roosevelt was a criminal who should have been impeached. Too late, he's dead.

16th March 2012, 10:56 PM	#15
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27,257	Originally Posted by TimCallahan The Roosevelt administration instituted the Fair Labor Relations Act. This gave us the 40 hour week, minimum wage, legalization of labor unions and the right to strike. is this communism? Anything that interferes with the absolute right of employers is communistic. Employees should be grateful to be allowed to work and should love their employers and be happy to kiss the boot that kicks them.

16th March 2012, 11:01 PM	#16
Tomtomkent Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 5,353	FDR opened diplomatic relationships with Stalin precisely so he could find a way to end the horrible actions you accuse him of condoning. For the same reason the regimes of Pol Pot and mister Mugabe were recognised. Please stop being silly now.
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16th March 2012, 11:02 PM	#17
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16th March 2012, 11:22 PM	#18
Sword_Of_Truth Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,497	Originally Posted by Mondial Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART.../6315/fdr.html That's where I stopped reading. If your best source is a Holocaust denial site, then it's not worth any consideration.

16th March 2012, 11:40 PM	#19
Hans Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Location: NW United States Posts: 2,860	Originally Posted by uke2se I see an OP filled with lies. I see the lies supported with crack-pot websites. I chose to ridicule the OP. Generic ridicule. I see your generic ridicule and raise a rash of distain and call it nonsense (the op)
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17th March 2012, 12:44 AM	#20
Kestrel Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: DM79 Posts: 4,227	Originally Posted by Mark R I was getting my hair cut when the topic of discussion with the stylist turned to politics. She mentioned how she hates (I mean HATES) FDR. One of the main reasons being because FDR caused the Great Depression. I hear that from time to time. Most often from people that want to tell me why gold in the only true money. Somehow the Great Depression started in 1929 because FDR took office in 1933. The propaganda artists of the right are masters at rewriting history.

17th March 2012, 12:51 AM	#21
Kestrel Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: DM79 Posts: 4,227	Originally Posted by Tomtomkent FDR opened diplomatic relationships with Stalin precisely so he could find a way to end the horrible actions you accuse him of condoning. An old Bircher claim is that the initials JS on the Roosevelt dime were put there to honor Joseph Stalin.

17th March 2012, 07:22 AM	#22
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,611	Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth That's where I stopped reading. If your best source is a Holocaust denial site, then it's not worth any consideration. He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia.
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17th March 2012, 07:48 AM	#23
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by Cleon He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia. Which by the way has an excellent article on the Beatles song Get Back, then tells us the original version of the song (complete with lost lyrics) is about Lennon's hatred of Pakistanis

17th March 2012, 09:45 AM	#24
Sword_Of_Truth Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,497	Originally Posted by Cleon He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia. Yes, I see that now. I'm glad I stopped reading.

17th March 2012, 10:33 AM	#25
CORed Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,350	Whatever one may think about FDR's New Deal policies during the Great Depression (and I am kind of ambivalent about them), his leadership during WWII, IMO makes him one of the great American presidents. Of course, a Neo-Nazi would probably disagree with me.
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17th March 2012, 02:34 PM	#26
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by CORed Whatever one may think about FDR's New Deal policies during the Great Depression (and I am kind of ambivalent about them), his leadership during WWII, IMO makes him one of the great American presidents. Of course, a Neo-Nazi would probably disagree with me. And thats really the extent of it isn't it

17th March 2012, 04:37 PM	#27
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17th March 2012, 04:43 PM	#28
Mondial Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 231	Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
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17th March 2012, 05:03 PM	#29
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Originally Posted by Mondial Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html LOL So once again Hitler is painted as the bad guy....Damn those Americans and their Jewish friends cue Pearl Harbor conspiracy in 5 4 3 2 1 throw to camera two for Gawdzilla's rebutle in....................

17th March 2012, 05:10 PM	#30
Gazpacho Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Valley Lodge, USA Posts: 2,136	Originally Posted by Mondial Franklin Roosevelt was a closet communist. You say that like it would be a bad thing...
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17th March 2012, 05:55 PM	#31
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,258	Originally Posted by Mondial Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. In your gushing poetic over your love for Nazis you seem to have neglected that the 'territorial dispute' was Nazis wanting all of Polish land. Quote: FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. oh look more nazi-luving links In other words, FDR might have suggested that maybe Poland shouldn't roll over like the Czeks.
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17th March 2012, 05:57 PM	#32
Kid Eager Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 3,567	Originally Posted by Mondial Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. In 1938-39 in secret dealings with the Polish government he urged them not to negotiate with Germany for a peaceful solution to a territorial dispute. FDR's insistence on a belligerent attitude accelerated tensions and contributed to the outbreak of conflict. www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html I don't see anywhere that Roosevelt stands condemned as a warmonger. Perhaps you're confusing this forum with an alternative history one?
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17th March 2012, 06:00 PM	#33
Walter Ego Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,557	Originally Posted by Cleon He then moved on to Metapedia, the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Conservapedia. Now it's the Institute for Historical Review. Obviously FDR got us into WW2 to appease the Jews. Why else would we have stood up against Fascism and naked aggression in Europe?

17th March 2012, 06:23 PM	#34
Captain_Swoop Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3,980	That would make Churchill a Communist as well then.

17th March 2012, 06:31 PM	#35
BravesFan Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ocean Springs, Ms Posts: 1,784	Let me guess the protocols of the elders of zion were the key?