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Old 19th April 2012, 12:30 AM   #1
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Crackdown ordered on American nuns

Vatican orders crackdown on American nuns

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WASHINGTON — The Vatican has launched a crackdown on the umbrella group that represents most of America’s 55,000 Catholic nuns, saying that the group was not speaking out strongly enough against gay marriage, abortion and women’s ordination.

Rome also chided the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) for sponsoring conferences that featured “a prevalence of certain radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith.”
Those uppity women need to be put back in their place!
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Old 19th April 2012, 12:43 AM   #2
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Jeez, they're already up the proverbial creek without a paddle and now they want to tip over the canoe. This won't end well.
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Old 19th April 2012, 01:33 AM   #3
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So, wait, wait... it's not that those are saying anything in favour of gay marriage or anything, but just... errr... what? Aren't rabid enough against it to be proper Catholics?

I have bad news for his assholiness. If you only count the most rabid fanboys as good enough for you, then, congrats, you've just made yourself one of the smallest denominations ever.
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Old 19th April 2012, 01:40 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by HansMustermann View Post
So, wait, wait... it's not that those are saying anything in favour of gay marriage or anything, but just... errr... what? Aren't rabid enough against it to be proper Catholics?

I have bad news for his assholiness. If you only count the most rabid fanboys as good enough for you, then, congrats, you've just made yourself one of the smallest denominations ever.
But they're *nuns*. They're supposed to toe the party line!

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Old 19th April 2012, 01:51 AM   #5
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But apparently they do toe the line. Just apparently they're not as mindlessly rabid about it as his assholiness would like.
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Old 19th April 2012, 01:58 AM   #6
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This thread is not what I expected it to be. Neither is it what it should be.

I am shocked.
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Old 19th April 2012, 02:08 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Skepticemea View Post
This thread is not what I expected it to be. Neither is it what it should be.

I am shocked.
Agreed. Thought it would be closer to "nuns receive a spanking".

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This looks like a job for Whoopi Goldberg...
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Old 19th April 2012, 04:14 AM   #9
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the catholic church couldn't stop its clerics from violating children, but by god will they stamp down on the terrible scourge of not disapproving of gay marriage vocally enough.
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Old 19th April 2012, 04:29 AM   #10
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the catholic church couldn't stop its clerics from violating children, but by god will they stamp down on the terrible scourge of not disapproving of gay marriage vocally enough.
Cos that's what The Gulli-bible says you should do.
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Old 19th April 2012, 04:33 AM   #11
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You know, you would think that the dimwits in Rome would read the writing on the wall facing numbers like this--------

"The number of nuns in America has dropped from 179,954 in 1965 to just 55,000 today."

Also--------

"Benedict gave the CDF the go-ahead to take action against the LCWR in January 2011, more than a year ago."

What are they going to do, de-nun them?
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Old 19th April 2012, 04:38 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Uncle Otto View Post
You know, you would think that the dimwits in Rome would read the writing on the wall facing numbers like this--------

"The number of nuns in America has dropped from 179,954 in 1965 to just 55,000 today."

Also--------

"Benedict gave the CDF the go-ahead to take action against the LCWR in January 2011, more than a year ago."

What are they going to do, de-nun them?
They're going to be nun-chucked.
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If I were forced to do crack off of a nun, I'm not sure I'd pick an American nun...

Oh, wait...
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Old 19th April 2012, 05:27 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by HansMustermann View Post
But apparently they do toe the line. Just apparently they're not as mindlessly rabid about it as his assholiness would like.
Social activism isn't uncommon among the female religious, e.g. Sr. Stan, along with charitable work. It seems the Vatican, or at least the former rotweiller of orthodoxy, feels their efforts should be better focussed on opposing access to legal abortion, opposing marriage equality et cetera.
The support of LCWR and Network for US health care reform was particularly annoying to the hierarchy.

However in conjunction with other actions, like the silencing of Tony Flannery (exiled to a monastery to contemplate his sins), this crackdown may prove counter-productive to the aim of maintaining Roman control.
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Old 19th April 2012, 05:30 AM   #15
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Those uppity women need to be put back in their place!
Yeah, in the 7th Century.
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Old 19th April 2012, 05:33 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by catsmate1 View Post
Social activism isn't uncommon among the female religious, e.g. Sr. Stan, along with charitable work. It seems the Vatican, or at least the former rotweiller of orthodoxy, feels their efforts should be better focussed on opposing access to legal abortion, opposing marriage equality et cetera.
The support of LCWR and Network for US health care reform was particularly annoying to the hierarchy.

However in conjunction with other actions, like the silencing of Tony Flannery (exiled to a monastery to contemplate his sins), this crackdown may prove counter-productive to the aim of maintaining Roman control.
I'm sure they'll be asking what the Romans ever done for them.
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Uncle Ratty really wants to turn his ship around backwards.

Well, more backwards than it already is.
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Uncle Ratty really wants to turn his ship around backwards.

Well, more backwards than it already is.
There are distressing signs of independent thought, these need to be quashed.

Why recently some Seattle PP's declined to use their pulpits and churches to gather signature for a (church endorsed) referendum to overturn the Washington state marriage equality law, including in the archdiocesan cathedral.....................
Phrases like "he couldn’t in good conscience allow signature gathering" were used.
Archbishop Sartrain was not amused.
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Old 19th April 2012, 05:58 AM   #19
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They're going to be nun-chucked.
Ouch.
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Ouch.
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More and more I have to wonder:
Is the Vatican trying to drive people away from Catholicism?
Their PR guy is either an idiot or an atheist.
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More and more I have to wonder:
Is the Vatican trying to drive people away from Catholicism?
Their PR guy is either an idiot or an atheist.
It's like a celebrity firing their fan club because they don't hate everyone else enough.
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The average age of a nun in the US is 70. They probably think gay marriage is happy marriage and why would anyone be against that?
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Old 19th April 2012, 06:34 AM   #24
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This is a positive development. When a pedophile-enabling, anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-independent thinking cult is plagued by infighting, this can only be a good thing for society. Unfortunately, it appears that protestant Christianity stands to gain the most from the Catholic Church's continued meltdown, rather than atheists and freethinkers.

In my opinion.

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Agreed. Thought it would be closer to "nuns receive a spanking".

And after that, the oral sex!
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jeez, they're already up the proverbial creek sewage lagoon without a paddle and now they want to tip over the canoe. This won't end well.

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When will American Catholics finally break away from the Vatican? They don't need the Pope, and they pretty much ignore him already.
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I know some Sisters of St. Joseph here in the U.S. I attended a funeral mass for a Sister's relative at their chapel two weeks ago.

Every single one of them will silently tell the Vatican to go **** itself. Then confess it and be absolved.

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There are distressing signs of independent thought, these need to be quashed.

Why recently some Seattle PP's declined to use their pulpits and churches to gather signature for a (church endorsed) referendum to overturn the Washington state marriage equality law, including in the archdiocesan cathedral.....................
Phrases like "he couldn’t in good conscience allow signature gathering" were used.
Archbishop Sartrain was not amused.
Seems like they could lose their tax exemption by doing that.
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The best thread title ever. The actual content was a little disappointing, as my imagination went riot over the title.


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So the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith is going to carry out this crackdown? Why don't they revert to their previous name too? It seems the old times of the Inquisition are back.
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my father was a nun, on my birth certificate where it says "fathers occupation" he wrote nun
he also was barely literate

I don't think he was an American, though he did talk a load of crap and shout yeeehaa during war movies

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It seems the old times of the Inquisition are back.
finally a chance at some real power
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It seems the old times of the Inquisition are back.
no one expects the inquisition

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my father was a nun, on my birth certificate where it says "fathers occupation" he wrote nun
he also was barely literate

I don't think he was an American, though he did talk a load of crap and shout yeeehaa during war movies



finally a chance at some real power
MBWAHAHAwahahaha



no one expects the inquisition
So what implement do you bring along for torturing? I suggest the comfy chair.
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Originally Posted by catsmate1 View Post
Social activism isn't uncommon among the female religious, e.g. Sr. Stan, along with charitable work. It seems the Vatican, or at least the former rotweiller of orthodoxy, feels their efforts should be better focussed on opposing access to legal abortion, opposing marriage equality et cetera.
The support of LCWR and Network for US health care reform was particularly annoying to the hierarchy.
[invitation to American nuns] Ladies, may I interest you in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America? It's very much like what V2 was headed for, with the added bonus of not having a pope. I mean, it has a Presiding Bishop, but how scary can he be when he dropped by our church picnic one year? (I think he was driving an Olds, not a Popemobile.) You can become pastors and bishops and get married and even be married to other ladies. Do you want to be community activists? They welcome and encourage it.
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[invitation to American nuns] Ladies, may I interest you in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America? It's very much like what V2 was headed for, with the added bonus of not having a pope. I mean, it has a Presiding Bishop, but how scary can he be when he dropped by our church picnic one year? (I think he was driving an Olds, not a Popemobile.) You can become pastors and bishops and get married and even be married to other ladies. Do you want to be community activists? They welcome and encourage it.
How are they on Transubstantiation?
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When will American Catholics finally break away from the Vatican? They don't need the Pope, and they pretty much ignore him already.
Agreed. Rome having issues with the American branches is nothing new. I loved the survey brought up during the RCC vs ACA kerfuffle that 98% of Catholic women (in the US) have used birth control.

In the US, at least, the hierarchy is a very poor representative of the laity. Pretty much the only American Catholic that I know of, who actually seems to agree with the hierarchy just dropped out of the Republican primary race.
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So what implement do you bring along for torturing? I suggest the comfy chair.
I, like the real inquistion aren't limited to an implement, I have a whole room filled with them
guess what I call the room


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Pretty much the only American Catholic that I know of, who actually seems to agree with the hierarchy just dropped out of the Republican primary race.
I hear theres maybe a few more south of the Mexican border

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I hear that the Vatican also wants to crack down on nuns in Canada. They're starting a long nun registry.
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I've just realised that:

"Crackdown on Nuns!!"

Sounds like a Fox TV pitch.
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I, like the real inquistion aren't limited to an implement, I have a whole room filled with them
guess what I call the room
Gitmo?
The Sistine Chapel? (have to get this back on topic)
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