GOD Colbert is just awesome

Lowpro · 25th April 2012, 04:23 PM

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...12/don-mcleroy

Just a great interview of exposing a nutter in true "Colbert-iness" he just makes a crackpot creationist look even more evil and disgusting than the title implies

MG1962 · 25th April 2012, 04:44 PM

Here is a thought for you - Listening to this guy made suddenly consider, this isn't really about religion. It is the rebirth of a Luddite movement, coupled onto religion to drive the engine

wardenclyffe · 25th April 2012, 04:56 PM

Watch the entire episode. It's one for the books.

Ward

Elypsis44 · 25th April 2012, 05:37 PM

This guy said Thomas Jefferson was a "fellow religious conservative". Hasn't read much Jefferson I see.

The rest of his rambling is just typical fundie claptrap.

sgtbaker · 25th April 2012, 05:39 PM

Don McLeroy is a Creationist because he's a skeptic.

joobz · 25th April 2012, 06:08 PM

Mcleroy: "I never said that..."
Colbert: "Well, I choose to believe that it is true..."

One of the greatest refutations of the entire anti-science movement.

JDC · 25th April 2012, 07:04 PM

Grrr... video not available for your location ...

Is this on youtube somewhere?

Also heard he trashed us Canucks, "poutine gobbling" something or others

He is verrrrrrrry funny and sooooooooo true!

X · 25th April 2012, 07:07 PM

<--- Also Canadian

Gord_in_Toronto · 25th April 2012, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by JDC

Grrr... video not available for your location ...

Is this on youtube somewhere?

Also heard he trashed us Canucks, "poutine gobbling" something or others

He is verrrrrrrry funny and sooooooooo true!

Al the shows on CTV and CTV-2 are available on-line. For the most recent couple of episodes. Just go to shows.ctv.ca

My Rogers Internet connection seems to hick-cup a bit but it maybe because I watch using my rather old note book computer.

Advantages over live are far fewer commercials and you can pause.

The Norseman · 25th April 2012, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by sgtbaker

Don McLeroy is a Creationist because he's a skeptic.

Heh, exactly.

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth. And then when I looked at the evidence for evolution... I found it unconvincing, so uh... I don't think he used evolution to do it."

That's some pretty hardcore skepticism, I tell ya!

Gord_in_Toronto · 25th April 2012, 09:16 PM

Just finished watching the April 23rd and 24th shows.

He is good.

DevilsAdvocate · 25th April 2012, 09:46 PM

Great interview by Colbert. The context of what Joobz mentioned is really needed.

McLeroy: When it gets to those good old evolutionists, they would have us believe so much that needs to be explained by ungodly natural processes, and frankly if you look at the complexity the cell--I’m a skeptic. I’m a skeptic. When I see that all this is a result of ungodly processes and see how complex it is, so I have become a Creationist.
Colbert: OK. So, how do you believe the world began, how long has it been here, and did we share the planet with dinosaurs?
McLeroy: Yes.

Colbert: Human beings and dinosaurs walked side by side?
McLeroy: That is my personal belief.
Colbert: That’s your personal scientific view?
McLeroy: Absolutely.
Colbert: I agree with you. Science can be a personal choice.

Later...

Colbert: But the changes that you called for in the textbook aren’t just evolution, you also wanted to remove references to Thomas Jefferson and his importance in the founding fathers. Why was that?
McLeroy: Actually, that’s not true.
Colbert: I have personally chosen that it is true.

ZING!!!!

(Not to mention the zingers inbetween!)

H'ethetheth · 26th April 2012, 02:16 AM

I thought the best, and most astonishing part was how this interview reveals that basically the contents of textbooks in virtually the entire USA are hugely influenced by a handful of utter idiots.
I thought that was quite an eye-opener.

Elizabeth I · 26th April 2012, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by H'ethetheth

I thought the best, and most astonishing part was how this interview reveals that basically the contents of textbooks in virtually the entire USA are hugely influenced by a handful of utter idiots.
I thought that was quite an eye-opener.

To be fair, they're not quite such a bunch of idiots since we dumped McLeroy.

If you want a real scary thought, the man is a dentist. He's been through college and dental school - surely at some point during that process he heard some science. Can you imagine letting him come near you with a dental drill?

H'ethetheth · 26th April 2012, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

To be fair, they're not quite such a bunch of idiots since we dumped McLeroy.

Good to hear. Was he actually dumped because he's an idiot?

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

If you want a real scary thought, the man is a dentist. He's been through college and dental school - surely at some point during that process he heard some science. Can you imagine letting him come near you with a dental drill?

Actually, yes I can, since that is more of an engineering job. You know, stewards of the earth etc. I have quite a few very competent Christian engineers as colleagues, and I'm fairly sure some of them are at the very least creationists. Young or Old Earth I don't know, though.

Another thing I don't know is how they do that.

fishbait · 26th April 2012, 05:15 AM

Nay_Sayer · 26th April 2012, 05:23 PM

Colbert is my hero.

Gawdzilla · 26th April 2012, 07:11 PM

These people believe science is a plot cooked up by the left wingers. I'm not joking about that, some of my relatives have emailed me videos stating this. They can't see the irony in that.

UnrepentantSinner · 26th April 2012, 10:54 PM

The most astounding thing about McElroy out promoting The Revisionaries is that he cannot come across as anything other than the villain...

... though, now that I think about it, I'm sure Creationists and other wingnuts will think he's a hero standing up for, well, something.

Lowpro · 27th April 2012, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner

The most astounding thing about McElroy out promoting The Revisionaries is that he cannot come across as anything other than the villain...

... though, now that I think about it, I'm sure Creationists and other wingnuts will think he's a hero standing up for, well, something.

Reminds me of the intro in this video

http://www.myvidster.com/video/31685...lution_Debate_

Polaris · 27th April 2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner

The most astounding thing about McElroy out promoting The Revisionaries is that he cannot come across as anything other than the villain...

... though, now that I think about it, I'm sure Creationists and other wingnuts will think he's a hero standing up for, well, something.

The most astounding thing for me is that he agreed to go on the Report. It's not like it's the show's first season, didn't he research it? Is research also a leftist plot?

Elizabeth I · 27th April 2012, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by H'ethetheth

Good to hear. Was he actually dumped because he's an idiot?

Well, it's an elected position, so we can hope.

ETA: the other thing is that these people are shooting the state [themselves] in the foot. One of our fastest growing industries is biomedical. I can't imagine how people like McLeroy think these multimillion-dollar companies are going to hang out here if we start producing a state full of scientific illiterates. They'll just go somewhere they don't have to import their entire workforce.

Toontown · 27th April 2012, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

Well, it's an elected position, so we can hope.

ETA: the other thing is that these people are shooting the state [themselves] in the foot. One of our fastest growing industries is biomedical. I can't imagine how people like McLeroy think these multimillion-dollar companies are going to hang out here if we start producing a state full of scientific illiterates. They'll just go somewhere they don't have to import their entire workforce.

Do you really think he thinks that deeply?

I don't think you think he thinks that deeply.

Elizabeth I · 27th April 2012, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Toontown

Do you really think he thinks that deeply?

I don't think you think he thinks that deeply.

You're right, of course - but he and his ilk would be the first to scream like mashed cats when the state economy started to tank.

Gawdzilla · 27th April 2012, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Polaris

The most astounding thing for me is that he agreed to go on the Report. It's not like it's the show's first season, didn't he research it? Is research also a leftist plot?

Penn commented on this phenomenon once, saying that they sent people a video of "********!" so they would know what kind of treatment they might get. He said they usually agreed to appear anyway. There's a degree of self-delusionment (if that's even a word) involved that explains why they believe in the whacky crap to begin with.

Polaris · 30th April 2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Gawdzilla

Penn commented on this phenomenon once, saying that they sent people a video of "********!" so they would know what kind of treatment they might get. He said they usually agreed to appear anyway. There's a degree of self-delusionment (if that's even a word) involved that explains why they believe in the whacky crap to begin with.

I'll buy that for a dollar.

temporalillusion · 1st May 2012, 08:20 PM

I couldn't believe he'd agreed to be on either.

Originally Posted by Gawdzilla

Penn commented on this phenomenon once, saying that they sent people a video of "********!" so they would know what kind of treatment they might get. He said they usually agreed to appear anyway. There's a degree of self-delusionment (if that's even a word) involved that explains why they believe in the whacky crap to begin with.

Or he thinks that God will work through him and he'll argue Colbert around the stage until he cries like a little girl...

Colbert: But the changes that you called for in the textbook aren’t just evolution, you also wanted to remove references to Thomas Jefferson and his importance in the founding fathers. Why was that?
McLeroy: Actually, that’s not true.
Colbert: I have personally chosen that it is true.

You could actually see the cognitive dissonance in that one, his brain went offline for diagnostics for a second and then boop, right back up with the next thought as if nothing happened.

Wolfman · 2nd May 2012, 01:57 AM

Actually, I think this guy knew exactly what he was in for, and was well prepared for it. He didn't try to get into any debates, didn't try to justify himself much...just a few simple statements about his ideas, and then smile and nod at Colbert's comments.

There's a saying that there's no such thing as bad publicity, and there's a whole bunch more people who know about his book now, who may buy it simply to see what nonsense he is peddling.

It's win-win for him. Those people who believe the same things he does will see him as a victim of that terrible Colbert guy; those people who don't believe what he believes won't change their opinion, but a few of them may buy his book.

Belz... · 2nd May 2012, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by X

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+1. Stupid territorial restrictions. Don't they want people to watch this ? Idiots.

Gawdzilla · 2nd May 2012, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Actually, I think this guy knew exactly what he was in for, and was well prepared for it. He didn't try to get into any debates, didn't try to justify himself much...just a few simple statements about his ideas, and then smile and nod at Colbert's comments.

There's a saying that there's no such thing as bad publicity, and there's a whole bunch more people who know about his book now, who may buy it simply to see what nonsense he is peddling.

It's win-win for him. Those people who believe the same things he does will see him as a victim of that terrible Colbert guy; those people who don't believe what he believes won't change their opinion, but a few of them may buy his book.

He was a bot, reciting his spiel with utter disregard to the other side of the conversation. Typical "believer" tactics.

Gord_in_Toronto · 2nd May 2012, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Belz...

+1. Stupid territorial restrictions. Don't they want people to watch this ? Idiots.

shows.ctv.ca god dammit!

Just take me off ignore.

Jorghnassen · 2nd May 2012, 06:34 PM

I'm technically in Canada and have no problem accessing thedailyshow.com and colbertnation.com and all their content.

Some of you guys' internet skills and google-fu are pretty weak. I'll bet you use Internet Explorer too. For shame.

Gord_in_Toronto · 2nd May 2012, 06:39 PM

I use Firefox.

I get Canadian ads at shows.ctv.ca.

So, I'm not on Ignore?

Jorghnassen · 2nd May 2012, 06:43 PM

Ads? I keep forgetting those can be bothersome.

I'm old enough to remember the internet before ads. I try to make my browsing experience as adless as possible.

devnull · 2nd May 2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Jorghnassen

Ads? I keep forgetting those can be bothersome.

I'm old enough to remember the internet before ads. I try to make my browsing experience as adless as possible.

Hell, Im old enough to remember the internet before *http*.

Belz... · 3rd May 2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto

shows.ctv.ca god dammit!

Just take me off ignore.

Well I didn't see any parsed links so I didn't read.

sgtbaker · 3rd May 2012, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Great interview by Colbert. The context of what Joobz mentioned is really needed.

McLeroy: When it gets to those good old evolutionists, they would have us believe so much that needs to be explained by ungodly natural processes, and frankly if you look at the complexity the cell--I’m a skeptic. I’m a skeptic. When I see that all this is a result of ungodly processes and see how complex it is, so I have become a Creationist.
Colbert: OK. So, how do you believe the world began, how long has it been here, and did we share the planet with dinosaurs?
McLeroy: Yes.

Colbert: Human beings and dinosaurs walked side by side?
McLeroy: That is my personal belief.
Colbert: That’s your personal scientific view?
McLeroy: Absolutely.
Colbert: I agree with you. Science can be a personal choice.

Later...

Colbert: But the changes that you called for in the textbook aren’t just evolution, you also wanted to remove references to Thomas Jefferson and his importance in the founding fathers. Why was that?
McLeroy: Actually, that’s not true.
Colbert: I have personally chosen that it is true.

ZING!!!!

(Not to mention the zingers inbetween!)

That kind of humor has to require an exceptional level of intelligence and wit. To be able to think on the fly and a turn an argument back to the arguer with such grace is a trait I envy.

Biscuit · 3rd May 2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

I agree with you. Science can be a personal choice.

Pure genius.

Gord_in_Toronto · 3rd May 2012, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Belz...

Well I didn't see any parsed links so I didn't read.

Well in that case I am sorry.

DevilsAdvocate · 5th May 2012, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by sgtbaker

That kind of humor has to require an exceptional level of intelligence and wit. To be able to think on the fly and a turn an argument back to the arguer with such grace is a trait I envy.

Watch the Colbert Report some more. The zingers in this interview were super easy. He gets some he on the hard stuff as well.

And watch the Daily Show as well (just before the Colbert Report). Colbert was on the Daily Show before he got his own program. He excelled in zinger comedy interviews.

Colbert is impressive with the zingers and jokes, but Jon Stewart (of the Daily Show) is probably the best interviewer of all human kind. Barbara Walters used to be considered a great interviewer. Jon Stewart takes it to a whole other level.

25th April 2012, 04:23 PM	#1
Lowpro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 4,517	GOD Colbert is just awesome http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...12/don-mcleroy Just a great interview of exposing a nutter in true "Colbert-iness" he just makes a crackpot creationist look even more evil and disgusting than the title implies
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25th April 2012, 04:56 PM	#3
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25th April 2012, 05:37 PM	#4
Elypsis44 Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,355	This guy said Thomas Jefferson was a "fellow religious conservative". Hasn't read much Jefferson I see. The rest of his rambling is just typical fundie claptrap.
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25th April 2012, 05:39 PM	#5
sgtbaker Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,546	Don McLeroy is a Creationist because he's a skeptic.
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25th April 2012, 06:08 PM	#6
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,492	Mcleroy: "I never said that..." Colbert: "Well, I choose to believe that it is true..." One of the greatest refutations of the entire anti-science movement.
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25th April 2012, 04:44 PM	#2
MG1962 Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas (Australia) Posts: 14,750	Here is a thought for you - Listening to this guy made suddenly consider, this isn't really about religion. It is the rebirth of a Luddite movement, coupled onto religion to drive the engine

25th April 2012, 07:04 PM	#7
JDC Scholar Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 100	Grrr... video not available for your location ... Is this on youtube somewhere? Also heard he trashed us Canucks, "poutine gobbling" something or others He is verrrrrrrry funny and sooooooooo true!

25th April 2012, 07:07 PM	#8
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25th April 2012, 07:27 PM	#9
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 13,409	Originally Posted by JDC Grrr... video not available for your location ... Is this on youtube somewhere? Also heard he trashed us Canucks, "poutine gobbling" something or others He is verrrrrrrry funny and sooooooooo true! Al the shows on CTV and CTV-2 are available on-line. For the most recent couple of episodes. Just go to shows.ctv.ca My Rogers Internet connection seems to hick-cup a bit but it maybe because I watch using my rather old note book computer. Advantages over live are far fewer commercials and you can pause.
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25th April 2012, 07:45 PM	#10
The Norseman I Void Warranties Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Treasure Valley Posts: 3,236	Originally Posted by sgtbaker Don McLeroy is a Creationist because he's a skeptic. Heh, exactly. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth. And then when I looked at the evidence for evolution... I found it unconvincing, so uh... I don't think he used evolution to do it." That's some pretty hardcore skepticism, I tell ya!
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25th April 2012, 09:16 PM	#11
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25th April 2012, 09:46 PM	#12
DevilsAdvocate Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,633	Great interview by Colbert. The context of what Joobz mentioned is really needed. McLeroy: When it gets to those good old evolutionists, they would have us believe so much that needs to be explained by ungodly natural processes, and frankly if you look at the complexity the cell--I’m a skeptic. I’m a skeptic. When I see that all this is a result of ungodly processes and see how complex it is, so I have become a Creationist. Colbert: OK. So, how do you believe the world began, how long has it been here, and did we share the planet with dinosaurs? McLeroy: Yes. Colbert: Human beings and dinosaurs walked side by side? McLeroy: That is my personal belief. Colbert: That’s your personal scientific view? McLeroy: Absolutely. Colbert: I agree with you. Science can be a personal choice. Later... Colbert: But the changes that you called for in the textbook aren’t just evolution, you also wanted to remove references to Thomas Jefferson and his importance in the founding fathers. Why was that? McLeroy: Actually, that’s not true. Colbert: I have personally chosen that it is true. ZING!!!! (Not to mention the zingers inbetween!)
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26th April 2012, 02:16 AM	#13
H'ethetheth fishy rocket scientist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: among the machines Posts: 2,340	I thought the best, and most astonishing part was how this interview reveals that basically the contents of textbooks in virtually the entire USA are hugely influenced by a handful of utter idiots. I thought that was quite an eye-opener.

26th April 2012, 04:11 AM	#14
Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,254	Originally Posted by H'ethetheth I thought the best, and most astonishing part was how this interview reveals that basically the contents of textbooks in virtually the entire USA are hugely influenced by a handful of utter idiots. I thought that was quite an eye-opener. To be fair, they're not quite such a bunch of idiots since we dumped McLeroy. If you want a real scary thought, the man is a dentist. He's been through college and dental school - surely at some point during that process he heard some science. Can you imagine letting him come near you with a dental drill?
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26th April 2012, 04:33 AM	#15
H'ethetheth fishy rocket scientist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: among the machines Posts: 2,340	Originally Posted by Elizabeth I To be fair, they're not quite such a bunch of idiots since we dumped McLeroy. Good to hear. Was he actually dumped because he's an idiot? Originally Posted by Elizabeth I If you want a real scary thought, the man is a dentist. He's been through college and dental school - surely at some point during that process he heard some science. Can you imagine letting him come near you with a dental drill? Actually, yes I can, since that is more of an engineering job. You know, stewards of the earth etc. I have quite a few very competent Christian engineers as colleagues, and I'm fairly sure some of them are at the very least creationists. Young or Old Earth I don't know, though. Another thing I don't know is how they do that.

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26th April 2012, 07:11 PM	#18
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26th April 2012, 10:54 PM	#19
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,349	The most astounding thing about McElroy out promoting The Revisionaries is that he cannot come across as anything other than the villain... ... though, now that I think about it, I'm sure Creationists and other wingnuts will think he's a hero standing up for, well, something.
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27th April 2012, 11:51 AM	#20
Lowpro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 4,517	Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner The most astounding thing about McElroy out promoting The Revisionaries is that he cannot come across as anything other than the villain... ... though, now that I think about it, I'm sure Creationists and other wingnuts will think he's a hero standing up for, well, something. Reminds me of the intro in this video http://www.myvidster.com/video/31685...lution_Debate_
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27th April 2012, 12:00 PM	#21
Polaris Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,167	Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner The most astounding thing about McElroy out promoting The Revisionaries is that he cannot come across as anything other than the villain... ... though, now that I think about it, I'm sure Creationists and other wingnuts will think he's a hero standing up for, well, something. The most astounding thing for me is that he agreed to go on the Report. It's not like it's the show's first season, didn't he research it? Is research also a leftist plot?
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27th April 2012, 07:46 PM	#22
Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,254	Originally Posted by H'ethetheth Good to hear. Was he actually dumped because he's an idiot? Well, it's an elected position, so we can hope. ETA: the other thing is that these people are shooting the state [themselves] in the foot. One of our fastest growing industries is biomedical. I can't imagine how people like McLeroy think these multimillion-dollar companies are going to hang out here if we start producing a state full of scientific illiterates. They'll just go somewhere they don't have to import their entire workforce.
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27th April 2012, 08:03 PM	#23
Toontown Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,555	Originally Posted by Elizabeth I Well, it's an elected position, so we can hope. ETA: the other thing is that these people are shooting the state [themselves] in the foot. One of our fastest growing industries is biomedical. I can't imagine how people like McLeroy think these multimillion-dollar companies are going to hang out here if we start producing a state full of scientific illiterates. They'll just go somewhere they don't have to import their entire workforce. Do you really think he thinks that deeply? I don't think you think he thinks that deeply.
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27th April 2012, 08:32 PM	#24
Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,254	Originally Posted by Toontown Do you really think he thinks that deeply? I don't think you think he thinks that deeply. You're right, of course - but he and his ilk would be the first to scream like mashed cats when the state economy started to tank.
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27th April 2012, 11:04 PM	#25
Gawdzilla 121.92-meter mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingy Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northern St. Louis County, Missouri. Posts: 13,349	Originally Posted by Polaris The most astounding thing for me is that he agreed to go on the Report. It's not like it's the show's first season, didn't he research it? Is research also a leftist plot? Penn commented on this phenomenon once, saying that they sent people a video of "********!" so they would know what kind of treatment they might get. He said they usually agreed to appear anyway. There's a degree of self-delusionment (if that's even a word) involved that explains why they believe in the whacky crap to begin with.
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30th April 2012, 07:31 PM	#26
Polaris Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,167	Originally Posted by Gawdzilla Penn commented on this phenomenon once, saying that they sent people a video of "********!" so they would know what kind of treatment they might get. He said they usually agreed to appear anyway. There's a degree of self-delusionment (if that's even a word) involved that explains why they believe in the whacky crap to begin with. I'll buy that for a dollar.
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1st May 2012, 08:20 PM	#27
temporalillusion Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada's Texas Posts: 1,163	I couldn't believe he'd agreed to be on either. Originally Posted by Gawdzilla Penn commented on this phenomenon once, saying that they sent people a video of "******!" so they would know what kind of treatment they might get. He said they usually agreed to appear anyway. There's a degree of self-delusionment (if that's even a word) involved that explains why they believe in the whacky crap to begin with. Or he thinks that God will work through him and he'll argue Colbert around the stage until he cries like a little girl... Colbert: But the changes that you called for in the textbook aren’t just evolution, you also wanted to remove references to Thomas Jefferson and his importance in the founding fathers. Why was that? McLeroy: Actually, that’s not true. Colbert**: I have personally chosen that it is true. You could actually see the cognitive dissonance in that one, his brain went offline for diagnostics for a second and then boop, right back up with the next thought as if nothing happened.
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2nd May 2012, 01:57 AM	#28
Wolfman Chief Solipsistic Autosycophant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dongguan, China Posts: 11,809	Actually, I think this guy knew exactly what he was in for, and was well prepared for it. He didn't try to get into any debates, didn't try to justify himself much...just a few simple statements about his ideas, and then smile and nod at Colbert's comments. There's a saying that there's no such thing as bad publicity, and there's a whole bunch more people who know about his book now, who may buy it simply to see what nonsense he is peddling. It's win-win for him. Those people who believe the same things he does will see him as a victim of that terrible Colbert guy; those people who don't believe what he believes won't change their opinion, but a few of them may buy his book.
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2nd May 2012, 03:03 AM	#29
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details... Posts: 28,397	Originally Posted by X <--- Also Canadian +1. Stupid territorial restrictions. Don't they want people to watch this ? Idiots.
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2nd May 2012, 04:03 AM	#30
Gawdzilla 121.92-meter mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingy Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northern St. Louis County, Missouri. Posts: 13,349	Originally Posted by Wolfman Actually, I think this guy knew exactly what he was in for, and was well prepared for it. He didn't try to get into any debates, didn't try to justify himself much...just a few simple statements about his ideas, and then smile and nod at Colbert's comments. There's a saying that there's no such thing as bad publicity, and there's a whole bunch more people who know about his book now, who may buy it simply to see what nonsense he is peddling. It's win-win for him. Those people who believe the same things he does will see him as a victim of that terrible Colbert guy; those people who don't believe what he believes won't change their opinion, but a few of them may buy his book. He was a bot, reciting his spiel with utter disregard to the other side of the conversation. Typical "believer" tactics.
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2nd May 2012, 06:31 PM	#31
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 13,409	Originally Posted by Belz... +1. Stupid territorial restrictions. Don't they want people to watch this ? Idiots. shows.ctv.ca god dammit! Just take me off ignore.
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2nd May 2012, 06:34 PM	#32
Jorghnassen Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The realm of ideas Posts: 3,881	I'm technically in Canada and have no problem accessing thedailyshow.com and colbertnation.com and all their content. Some of you guys' internet skills and google-fu are pretty weak. I'll bet you use Internet Explorer too. For shame.
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2nd May 2012, 06:39 PM	#33
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 13,409	I use Firefox. I get Canadian ads at shows.ctv.ca. So, I'm not on Ignore?
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2nd May 2012, 06:43 PM	#34
Jorghnassen Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The realm of ideas Posts: 3,881	Ads? I keep forgetting those can be bothersome. I'm old enough to remember the internet before ads. I try to make my browsing experience as adless as possible.
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2nd May 2012, 08:45 PM	#35
devnull Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,531	Originally Posted by Jorghnassen Ads? I keep forgetting those can be bothersome. I'm old enough to remember the internet before ads. I try to make my browsing experience as adless as possible. Hell, Im old enough to remember the internet before http.
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