2 unknown Poussin's Paintings key of Rennes le chateau'smystery

[Border Reiver]

13 herbs and spices

[gasc]

It's by Symbolic langage we recognize Poussin also !
I send a post with some more informations

[gasc]

do you know really Poussin ?do you red my website? it'sIMPOSSIBLE to have PIGMENTS expertise between one painting and one of Poussin ,it was possible for my paintings because they were already proofs about the paintings found by expert.
i know that the seekersRLChaateau don t like my discoveries because they have already you thought and many commerce about it but you no I m sure so I dont understand why you believe nothing

[gasc]

this last post to CASTMATE 1

[gasc]

My site is in english now
lesecretdepoussin.com

In this site at page LINK on ARQA you will find the same details in my paintings and Boudet VLC and parchments ..there are good pictures to explain my discoveries
I ve sent you a link to understand code Poussin It's interessant to see Poussin used kabbale and hermetic langage . And in my paintings also . In his sign Pou and under S X .he has used phonetic kabbale to sign POUSSIN .
There is also NP ,Have you see it
There is a sacred geometry in these 2 paintings which give solutions in these paintings .
all painters cannot do sacred geometry Poussin and de vinci .... yes


I say These 2 family's paintings are 2 Unknown Poussin's paintings and are THE KEY of RENNES LE CHATEAU's mystery

. Codes ,symboles,hidden pictures ,letters ,numbers discovered at rayons X .. Sacred geometry and astronomy give the key of this mystery. Religious secret ,ancestral secret and it was impossible for a priest ,to give this secret without code. Henri Gasc IS THIS PROTAGONIST with Henri Boudet . The key is in Cromlech of BOUDET and parchments of GASC . The secret found by Gasc in these paintings has been coded in parchments . Boudet was in the secret with Gasc and has wrotten the CROMLECH.It's a track game ..
The Poussin's secret is in the stars .. HERCULE AND BOUVIER explain it in my paintings there is things I can say and other no I say it s religious secret
my site in english will be easier for you . I tell this story in my site with details and paintings's pictures.

[catsmate1]

Originally Posted by gasc

It's by Symbolic langage we recognize Poussin also !
I send a post with some more informations

Originally Posted by gasc

do you know really Poussin ?do you red my website? it'sIMPOSSIBLE to have PIGMENTS expertise between one painting and one of Poussin ,it was possible for my paintings because they were already proofs about the paintings found by expert.
i know that the seekersRLChaateau don t like my discoveries because they have already you thought and many commerce about it but you no I m sure so I dont understand why you believe nothing

Originally Posted by gasc

this last post to CASTMATE 1

Originally Posted by gasc

My site is in english now
lesecretdepoussin.com

In this site at page LINK on ARQA you will find the same details in my paintings and Boudet VLC and parchments ..there are good pictures to explain my discoveries
I ve sent you a link to understand code Poussin It's interessant to see Poussin used kabbale and hermetic langage . And in my paintings also . In his sign Pou and under S X .he has used phonetic kabbale to sign POUSSIN .
There is also NP ,Have you see it
There is a sacred geometry in these 2 paintings which give solutions in these paintings .
all painters cannot do sacred geometry Poussin and de vinci .... yes


I say These 2 family's paintings are 2 Unknown Poussin's paintings and are THE KEY of RENNES LE CHATEAU's mystery

. Codes ,symboles,hidden pictures ,letters ,numbers discovered at rayons X .. Sacred geometry and astronomy give the key of this mystery. Religious secret ,ancestral secret and it was impossible for a priest ,to give this secret without code. Henri Gasc IS THIS PROTAGONIST with Henri Boudet . The key is in Cromlech of BOUDET and parchments of GASC . The secret found by Gasc in these paintings has been coded in parchments . Boudet was in the secret with Gasc and has wrotten the CROMLECH.It's a track game ..
The Poussin's secret is in the stars .. HERCULE AND BOUVIER explain it in my paintings there is things I can say and other no I say it s religious secret
my site in english will be easier for you . I tell this story in my site with details and paintings's pictures.

So no evidence that the paintings are genuine Poussin, no evidence of the supposed hidden codes, no evidence that there is any secret.

[dafydd]

Originally Posted by gasc

My site is in english now
lesecretdepoussin.com

In this site at page LINK on ARQA you will find the same details in my paintings and Boudet VLC and parchments ..there are good pictures to explain my discoveries
I ve sent you a link to understand code Poussin It's interessant to see Poussin used kabbale and hermetic langage . And in my paintings also . In his sign Pou and under S X .he has used phonetic kabbale to sign POUSSIN .
There is also NP ,Have you see it
There is a sacred geometry in these 2 paintings which give solutions in these paintings .
all painters cannot do sacred geometry Poussin and de vinci .... yes


I say These 2 family's paintings are 2 Unknown Poussin's paintings and are THE KEY of RENNES LE CHATEAU's mystery

. Codes ,symboles,hidden pictures ,letters ,numbers discovered at rayons X .. Sacred geometry and astronomy give the key of this mystery. Religious secret ,ancestral secret and it was impossible for a priest ,to give this secret without code. Henri Gasc IS THIS PROTAGONIST with Henri Boudet . The key is in Cromlech of BOUDET and parchments of GASC . The secret found by Gasc in these paintings has been coded in parchments . Boudet was in the secret with Gasc and has wrotten the CROMLECH.It's a track game ..
The Poussin's secret is in the stars .. HERCULE AND BOUVIER explain it in my paintings there is things I can say and other no I say it s religious secret
my site in english will be easier for you . I tell this story in my site with details and paintings's pictures.

What is this secret?

[Orphia Nay]

What is the secret?

I put it to you that you are fabricating links to links to links in a neverending wild goose chase.

[pakeha]

Hi, gasc.
I'm really glad your site is in English now.
Could you post a link to the English version, please?

I'm looking forward to seeing what all this, and especially that little magic square, has to do with religious secrets.
When I think of 17th century France, I think of Port Royal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port-Royal-des-Champs and also that terrrible witchcraft trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affair_of_the_Poisons

And, of course, Lully
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmus_et_Hermione

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I AGREE

[gasc]

I'm really glad your site is in English now.
Could you post a link to the English version, please


Have you found the link ENGLISH on the site?

[gasc]

I don't know if I 've the right to send the site
http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com[/url]

I say at administrator it:THANKS

[dafydd]

Originally Posted by gasc

i don't know if i 've the right to send the site
http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com[/url]

i say at administrator it

what is the secret?

[gasc]

http://lesarchivesdu...e-18031846.html
http://lesarchivesdusavoirperdu.over...-21403740.html
http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/liens.php


it's google traduction because not easy for me!i hope enough well traduction!

I’am very disturbed by these really interesting articles and since not bad this time(weather) this image, this very particular stained glass in a church with the boat calls out to(questions) me because it is in connection with my two unknown paintings(boards) of POUSSIN, paintings(boards) of family, which as I said it are the key of the enigma the article on this subject is very relevant and sends back(dismisses) to me towards my two paintings(boards). Look at the description of the history(story), the subject of my two unknown paintings(boards).

Boat, argonautes, astronomy and there are number the other hidden details which are connected with this stained glass which is the card(map), THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE. As if by chance this stained glass in connection with this card(map), represents a boat and was put in a church! In my picture(board) the Christ is in the boat! The Christ sends back(dismisses) to the church and the boat and the mast à la carte of the wheel of fortune and to the church, the characters What are almost without face in the boat of my picture(board) (except the Christ), what could paint POUSSIN when the subject demanded it (".. POUSSIN in the field of the treatment(processing) of the shade(shadow) and the light, and in the dramatization of the lighting. As at Rembrandt, the light plays a moral role, she(it) illuminates the face of the Christ and those of the apostles, curiously evoked by ovals in trembled outlines (we know that POUSSIN will occasionally be allocated by a shiver of the hand from the beginning the forties ")The wheel of fortune bound(connected) to the boat, to the mast and when we look at all the present symbols in this biblical picture(board), this card(map) of the WHEEL bound(connected) to the picture(board) has a whole logic. Pierre's boat it is also the Great Bear and thus the wagon(trolley) .la card(map) of the wagon(trolley) is between that of the death and the wheel of fortune!
Solar symbol, it is the wheel of the births of the successive deaths through the cosmos; it is, on the human plan, the permanent instability and Eternal return. And this movement which sometimes raises(brings up), sometimes lowers, it is the movement of the Justice (mystery 8), which wants to maintain the balance on all the plans and does not hesitate to moderate by the destruction and the death him(it) triumphs over creative realizations, as still underlines it the number of this tenth mystery, enter the Wagon(Trolley) (mystery 7) and the Death (mystery 13). (Source(spring): dictionary of the symbols by Jean Chevalier and Alain Gheerbrant).

go AT LINK PAGE o my site at interview and read about "chariot" etc..and read the other links

[dafydd]

Originally Posted by gasc

http://lesarchivesdu...e-18031846.html
http://lesarchivesdusavoirperdu.over...-21403740.html
http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/liens.php


it's google traduction because not easy for me!i hope enough well traduction!

I’am very disturbed by these really interesting articles and since not bad this time(weather) this image, this very particular stained glass in a church with the boat calls out to(questions) me because it is in connection with my two unknown paintings(boards) of POUSSIN, paintings(boards) of family, which as I said it are the key of the enigma the article on this subject is very relevant and sends back(dismisses) to me towards my two paintings(boards). Look at the description of the history(story), the subject of my two unknown paintings(boards).

Boat, argonautes, astronomy and there are number the other hidden details which are connected with this stained glass which is the card(map), THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE. As if by chance this stained glass in connection with this card(map), represents a boat and was put in a church! In my picture(board) the Christ is in the boat! The Christ sends back(dismisses) to the church and the boat and the mast à la carte of the wheel of fortune and to the church, the characters What are almost without face in the boat of my picture(board) (except the Christ), what could paint POUSSIN when the subject demanded it (".. POUSSIN in the field of the treatment(processing) of the shade(shadow) and the light, and in the dramatization of the lighting. As at Rembrandt, the light plays a moral role, she(it) illuminates the face of the Christ and those of the apostles, curiously evoked by ovals in trembled outlines (we know that POUSSIN will occasionally be allocated by a shiver of the hand from the beginning the forties ")The wheel of fortune bound(connected) to the boat, to the mast and when we look at all the present symbols in this biblical picture(board), this card(map) of the WHEEL bound(connected) to the picture(board) has a whole logic. Pierre's boat it is also the Great Bear and thus the wagon(trolley) .la card(map) of the wagon(trolley) is between that of the death and the wheel of fortune!
Solar symbol, it is the wheel of the births of the successive deaths through the cosmos; it is, on the human plan, the permanent instability and Eternal return. And this movement which sometimes raises(brings up), sometimes lowers, it is the movement of the Justice (mystery 8), which wants to maintain the balance on all the plans and does not hesitate to moderate by the destruction and the death him(it) triumphs over creative realizations, as still underlines it the number of this tenth mystery, enter the Wagon(Trolley) (mystery 7) and the Death (mystery 13). (Source(spring): dictionary of the symbols by Jean Chevalier and Alain Gheerbrant).

go AT LINK PAGE o my site at interview and read about "chariot" etc..and read the other links

???? Is the above supposed to mean something? The words are English but they appear to be in a random order.

[pakeha]

Hi, gasc, thanks for the links.
Do you have dates for that stained glass?
"The wheel of fortune bound(connected) to the boat, to the mast and when we look at all the present symbols in this biblical picture(board), this card(map) of the WHEEL bound(connected) to the picture(board) has a whole logic. Pierre's boat it is also the Great Bear and thus the wagon(trolley) .la card(map) of the wagon(trolley) is between that of the death and the wheel of fortune! "

I didn't quite understand how Pierres boat relates to the constellation of the Great Bear.
Also, why are you tying in the tarot with Poussin's symbolism?

[catsmate1]

Originally Posted by gasc

http://lesarchivesdu...e-18031846.html
http://lesarchivesdusavoirperdu.over...-21403740.html
http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/liens.php


it's google traduction because not easy for me!i hope enough well traduction!

I’am very disturbed by these really interesting articles and since not bad this time(weather) this image, this very particular stained glass in a church with the boat calls out to(questions) me because it is in connection with my two unknown paintings(boards) of POUSSIN, paintings(boards) of family, which as I said it are the key of the enigma the article on this subject is very relevant and sends back(dismisses) to me towards my two paintings(boards). Look at the description of the history(story), the subject of my two unknown paintings(boards).

Boat, argonautes, astronomy and there are number the other hidden details which are connected with this stained glass which is the card(map), THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE. As if by chance this stained glass in connection with this card(map), represents a boat and was put in a church! In my picture(board) the Christ is in the boat! The Christ sends back(dismisses) to the church and the boat and the mast à la carte of the wheel of fortune and to the church, the characters What are almost without face in the boat of my picture(board) (except the Christ), what could paint POUSSIN when the subject demanded it (".. POUSSIN in the field of the treatment(processing) of the shade(shadow) and the light, and in the dramatization of the lighting. As at Rembrandt, the light plays a moral role, she(it) illuminates the face of the Christ and those of the apostles, curiously evoked by ovals in trembled outlines (we know that POUSSIN will occasionally be allocated by a shiver of the hand from the beginning the forties ")The wheel of fortune bound(connected) to the boat, to the mast and when we look at all the present symbols in this biblical picture(board), this card(map) of the WHEEL bound(connected) to the picture(board) has a whole logic. Pierre's boat it is also the Great Bear and thus the wagon(trolley) .la card(map) of the wagon(trolley) is between that of the death and the wheel of fortune!
Solar symbol, it is the wheel of the births of the successive deaths through the cosmos; it is, on the human plan, the permanent instability and Eternal return. And this movement which sometimes raises(brings up), sometimes lowers, it is the movement of the Justice (mystery 8), which wants to maintain the balance on all the plans and does not hesitate to moderate by the destruction and the death him(it) triumphs over creative realizations, as still underlines it the number of this tenth mystery, enter the Wagon(Trolley) (mystery 7) and the Death (mystery 13). (Source(spring): dictionary of the symbols by Jean Chevalier and Alain Gheerbrant).

go AT LINK PAGE o my site at interview and read about "chariot" etc..and read the other links

What?
Look start by determining if your paintings are actually by Poussin, you can start the conspiratorial sillyness after that.

[Croydon Bob]

Hello everyone! sorry, I've arrived a little late to this thread.

Hi gasc! I've read a number of your threads scattered around teh interweb, such as this one: http://andrewgough.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3935
You are very short on facts.

It has been stated a couple of times in this thread that the whole Rennes le Chateau "mystery" was invented by Pierre Plantard. This is not actually quite right. The RLC "mystery" was created by a man called Noel Corbu, who opened a hotel in RLC in the 1950s in the house that had been the home of the priest Berenger Sauniere. To attract business he created the mystery around Sauniere and RLC. Plantard added it to his strange secret society/bloodline/right-wing hoax in the 1960s. Bagent, Leigh and Lincoln added further fiction, such as the bloodline going back to Jesus, in the 1970s.

As others have already said: Poussin has nothing to do with any of this. The connection of his paintings to a small French village that he never visited is completely unsupported by evidence.

There is no mystery regarding the source of Sauniere's money. His accounts still exist and do not require treasure or whatever to explain them.

Everything you never wanted to know about all this nonsense can be found here: http://priory-of-sion.com/
A reasonably skeptical site (but I'm not endorsing the owner/author of it).

The only serious English language book on the subject is "The Treasure of Rennes-le-Château: A Mystery Solved" by Bill Putnam and John Edwin Wood (Sutton Publishing Limited, 2005). All other books in English on RLC, etc, are woo-infested. Although "Rat Scabies and the Holy Grail" by Christopher Dawes is very entertaining.

[gasc]

hello Pakeha

just read it to explain why Grande Ourse is chariot" ..
Poussin used many occult sciences not only Tarot reference .Kabbale and codes with numerical tables ! optical and pesrpective as Durer ..To understand Da Poussin code" there are letters =numbers or numbers = letters ..there are correspondances !the letter has a signification ,the number laso but all has a sense!to recognize Poussin here is trough the story . he used mythological fables to hidde another subject about religious !i explain all this in the site with more details

"La Grande Ourse, en astronomie, c’est bien sûr aussi l’image de la Barque de saint Pierre, dans le Coelum Stellatum Chistianum de Julius Schiller, paru en 1627, dont sans aucun doute Poussin s’est inspiré, ce qui par ailleurs, a déjà été dit. "

[gasc]

sorry!it's too tecnical for me in english !i send you in french and perharps you could have a better traduction as me?


je trouve cette question très intéressante car depuis pas mal ce temps cette image ce vitrail avec la barque m'interpelle en relation avec les deux tableaux inconnus de Poussin qui sont la clé de l'énigme (et je sais que cela peut en déranger certains et c'est bien dommage !)
l'article à ce sujet est très pertinent et me renvoie vers mes deux tableaux . regardez la description de l'histoire ,du sujet des deux tableaux inconnus de Poussin découverts par Gasc .

barque ,argonautes ,astronomie et il y a nombre autres détails cachés qui se rattachent à cette carte . comme par hasard ce vitrail en relation avec cette carte a été mis dans une église alors que dans le tableau le christ est dans la barque ! les personnages sont presque sans visage dans la barque,ce que pouvait peindre Poussin quand le sujet le réclamait .. La roue de la fortune liée à la barque ,au mât et quand on regarde tous les symboles présents dans ce tableau biblique,cette carte de la ROUE liée au tableau a toute une logique. La barque de Pierre c'est ausi la grande ourse et donc le chariot .la carte du chariot est entre celle de la mort et de la roue de la fortune!

Symbole solaire, c’est la roue des naissances des morts successives à travers le cosmos ; c’est, sur le plan humain, l’instabilité permanente et l’éternel retour. Et ce mouvement qui tantôt élève, tantôt abaisse, c’est le mouvement même de la Justice ( arcane 8 ), qui veut maintenir l’équilibre sur tous les plans et n’hésite pas à tempérer par la destruction et la mort le triomphe des réalisations créatrices, comme le souligne encore le numéro de ce dixième arcane, entre le Chariot ( arcane 7 ) et la Mort ( arcane 13). (Source : Dictionnaire des symboles par Jean Chevalier et Alain Gheerbrant).
regardez le site et aussi l'interview en pages liens de F Gasc avec T Garnier

[gasc]

Originally Posted by pakeha

Hi, gasc, thanks for the links.
Do you have dates for that stained glass?
"The wheel of fortune bound(connected) to the boat, to the mast and when we look at all the present symbols in this biblical picture(board), this card(map) of the WHEEL bound(connected) to the picture(board) has a whole logic. Pierre's boat it is also the Great Bear and thus the wagon(trolley) .la card(map) of the wagon(trolley) is between that of the death and the wheel of fortune! "

I didn't quite understand how Pierres boat relates to the constellation of the Great Bear.
Also, why are you tying in the tarot with Poussin's symbolism?

i look for who has done this stained glass and when?

[gasc]

Originally Posted by Croydon Bob

Hello everyone! sorry, I've arrived a little late to this thread.

Hi gasc! I've read a number of your threads scattered around teh interweb, such as this one: http://andrewgough.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3935
You are very short on facts.

It has been stated a couple of times in this thread that the whole Rennes le Chateau "mystery" was invented by Pierre Plantard. This is not actually quite right. The RLC "mystery" was created by a man called Noel Corbu, who opened a hotel in RLC in the 1950s in the house that had been the home of the priest Berenger Sauniere. To attract business he created the mystery around Sauniere and RLC. Plantard added it to his strange secret society/bloodline/right-wing hoax in the 1960s. Bagent, Leigh and Lincoln added further fiction, such as the bloodline going back to Jesus, in the 1970s.

As others have already said: Poussin has nothing to do with any of this. The connection of his paintings to a small French village that he never visited is completely unsupported by evidence.

There is no mystery regarding the source of Sauniere's money. His accounts still exist and do not require treasure or whatever to explain them.

Everything you never wanted to know about all this nonsense can be found here: http://priory-of-sion.com/
A reasonably skeptical site (but I'm not endorsing the owner/author of it).

The only serious English language book on the subject is "The Treasure of Rennes-le-Château: A Mystery Solved" by Bill Putnam and John Edwin Wood (Sutton Publishing Limited, 2005). All other books in English on RLC, etc, are woo-infested. Although "Rat Scabies and the Holy Grail" by Christopher Dawes is very entertaining.

"As others have already said: Poussin has nothing to do with any of this"

ah nothing ??so why since one century thousand researchers explore POUSSIN WITH ARCADIA SHEPERDS ?AND MANY IN GB!Poussin is in center this enigma with parchments and "dalle de blanchefort'
RLC is a great mystery as a treasure hunt with clues . All hypothesis but NO PROOFS!the sheperds don't give a real answer but Poussin is a real clue. A mystery is always something strange and difficult to explain . I din't know RLC mystery before discoverings about my paintings and it's through them with familial track i understand these paintings haev a secret in connection RLC mystery .In this mystery it's for me BOUDET the most important person with GASC as protagonist . This track is a serious pist now with my discoverings . I explain all it in interview on my site
many researchers are not very happy with my discoverings because RLC it's THEIR TRADE and i bring the key of a mystery that they don't want see the end!!!

[gasc]

[quote=gasc;8397944]"As others have already said: Poussin has nothing to do with any of this"

ah nothing ??so why since one century thousand researchers explore POUSSIN WITH ARCADIA SHEPERDS ?AND MANY IN GB!Poussin is in center this enigma with parchments and "dalle de blanchefort'
RLC is a great mystery as a treasure hunt with clues . All hypothesis but NO PROOFS!the sheperds don't give a real answer but Poussin is a real clue. A mystery is always something strange and difficult to explain . I din't know RLC mystery before discoverings about my paintings and it's through them with familial track i understand these paintings have a secret in connection RLC mystery .In this mystery it's for me BOUDET the most important person with GASC as protagonist . This track is a serious pist now with my discoverings . I explain all it in interview on my site
many researchers are not very happy with my discoverings because RLC it's THEIR TRADE and i bring the key of a mystery that they don't want see the end!!!
I put my story by MYSELF on forum and web beacuse the next day after TV reportage on 4 forums there are my paintings ,pictures etc ..it's for this reason i do myself now on web . For my story and painting's pictures i've put legal rights and i say nothing when it's fo a good using but i prefer have the control
you are on Andrew Gough forum ? are you Brian ???

[dafydd]

[quote=gasc;8397951]

Originally Posted by gasc

"As others have already said: Poussin has nothing to do with any of this"

ah nothing ??so why since one century thousand researchers explore POUSSIN WITH ARCADIA SHEPERDS ?AND MANY IN GB!Poussin is in center this enigma with parchments and "dalle de blanchefort'
RLC is a great mystery as a treasure hunt with clues . All hypothesis but NO PROOFS!the sheperds don't give a real answer but Poussin is a real clue. A mystery is always something strange and difficult to explain . I din't know RLC mystery before discoverings about my paintings and it's through them with familial track i understand these paintings have a secret in connection RLC mystery .In this mystery it's for me BOUDET the most important person with GASC as protagonist . This track is a serious pist now with my discoverings . I explain all it in interview on my site
many researchers are not very happy with my discoverings because RLC it's THEIR TRADE and i bring the key of a mystery that they don't want see the end!!!
I put my story by MYSELF on forum and web beacuse the next day after TV reportage on 4 forums there are my paintings ,pictures etc ..it's for this reason i do myself now on web . For my story and painting's pictures i've put legal rights and i say nothing when it's fo a good using but i prefer have the control
you are on Andrew Gough forum ? are you Brian ???

WHAT ENIGMA? WHAT MYSTERY?

[Orphia Nay]

From another thread, regarding conspiracy theorists:

Originally Posted by Inside Mob

They have a collection of unorganized thoughts that do not form an argument and they have not attempted to do so. The logical inconsistencies, fallacies and non-answers to direct questions are the result of the fact that they do not know themselves what their exact position on the issue is.

This thread is pretty much a conspiracy theory. It's an imagined link to a tenuous link to a mythical link, over and over and over, all muddled up. No answers are forthcoming, or they just lead to more questions.

[Croydon Bob]

Originally Posted by gasc

Poussin is in center this enigma with parchments and "dalle de blanchefort'
RLC is a great mystery as a treasure hunt with clues . All hypothesis but NO PROOFS! the sheperds don't give a real answer but Poussin is a real clue. A mystery is always something strange and difficult to explain .


you are on Andrew Gough forum ? are you Brian ???

As dafydd has asked: WHAT ENIGMA? WHAT MYSTERY?

And I would add: WHAT TREASURE?

The only mystery is why people think that there is a mystery.

What treasure are you looking for? How can paintings that you claim are by an artist who never visited the south of France be relevant?

Yes, I am on the Andrew Gough forum, no, I am not Brian (let's try to avoid Monty Python quotes).

[pakeha]

Thanks for joining in, Croydon Bob, you've brought a lot of information to the discussion.

@gasc, I'll be interested in knowing what that stained glass has to do with any mystery whatsoever. And also an explanation as to this claim
"La barque de Pierre c'est ausi la grande ourse et donc le chariot "

[Croydon Bob]

Originally Posted by pakeha

Thanks for joining in, Croydon Bob, you've brought a lot of information to the discussion.

The only reason I remember a fair bit about this particular brand of nonsense is that my father-in-law used to live in Perpignan which is less than two-hours drive away and I have been to Rennes-le-Chateau a couple of times. It really is an amazing place and well worth a day-trip if you are in the area. So, I have more of an interest in what the "Rennies" or "Grail Hunters" are up to than the average skeptic does.

Yes, I've seen the actual site of the place where there used to be a tomb that wasn't painted by Poussin because he was never in the area and the tomb wasn't built until long after he had died.

[LSSBB]

I'm reading "The Sion Revelation" right now. That Plantard sure was a tricky fellow.

[gasc]

pakeha

thanks for your interest at my thread and discoverings . Sorry for my bad english but i do what i can!
people ask me what is the secret? what's mystery? since a long time in RLC mystery people say NICOLAS POUSSIN IS THE KEY of this mystery!why ?his name is in parchments and on the "paving stone"BLANCHEFORT, there is " et in arcadia ego" . This is a code,in fact on this paving stone .
We know by FOUQUET letter, POUSSIN has a secret and all people have said :the secret for POUSSIN and RLC mystery was BERGERS ARCADIE which give secret :this painting has been studied thousand times but actually NOTHING real and concret about a tresure or secret in this painting . !nothing
I arrived in this mystery with discoverings about 2 unkown paintings by POUSSIN and we say they give this secret 2 paintings coming from my family show hidden pictures etc.. these paintings come from my ancestor , HENRI GASC ,priest at ND de marceille near RLC . By historical researchs i learn it's GASC which has coded these parchments and paving stone and i learn that GASC has found 17e paintings on an hidding place in his church ,perharps POUSSIN paintings ,is it said ! (i shall send you articles about it )
my paintings come from HENRI GASC . So i say with these discoverings,these paintings :they are coded ,and they are by Poussin ,and are the key of these secret . Why ? because on these paintings i find the same details given by GASC and BOUDET who is the protagonist with GASC of this mystery . !
the first secret that i explain about this mystery : is that GASC has found in his church in hidden place POUSSIN PAINTINGS and in these paintings he has found codes and secret hidden (as me) so he has wanted give this secret but only with a real "jeu de piste"or puzzle! !these paintings found by GASC ,expalin why POUSSIN is the key of this enigma as GASC says it in HIS parchments!
what is the enigma secret ? when we find a tresure or secret its not possible to say it ! i say that i've found the answer at this enigma about POUSSIN on this RLC MYSTERY in my paintings which give what is " tresure"!nobody knew these paintings before and did not knew really why POUSSIN was the key ? i've found that all the clues about RLC mystery were in my paintings !so MY paintings are well the key of this mystery . all clues of this enigma were whithout answer before !
it's a religious secret and i give in interview some details,clues about this secret which is hidden in my paintings . http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/liens.php(in english )
pakeha ,in this interview i speak about "grande ourse" and it's possible to read it in english

i have a Poussin's drawing much interesting about boat !people says often he doesn't draw or paint boat !
http://aaaahooooohparichotphilippe.o...-13560562.html

[Croydon Bob]

Originally Posted by LSSBB

I'm reading "The Sion Revelation" right now. That Plantard sure was a tricky fellow.

Ah yes. Picknett and Prince's attempt to cash in on The Da Vinci Code. I haven't read it, but beware of their pretend skepticism. I've read several of their other books and they believe some of the most wibble wibble hatstand woo stuff out there (Da Vinci invented photography, Stargates, etc). I wouldn't trust them even when they are debunking the Priory of Sion.

[LSSBB]

Originally Posted by Croydon Bob

Ah yes. Picknett and Prince's attempt to cash in on The Da Vinci Code. I haven't read it, but beware of their pretend skepticism. I've read several of their other books and they believe some of the most wibble wibble hatstand woo stuff out there (Da Vinci invented photography, Stargates, etc). I wouldn't trust them even when they are debunking the Priory of Sion.

Thanks, however I got the same impression reading through the Amazon reviews. My wife bought the book for me from the drugstore discount bin - that should have been warning enough, , however I read a good bio of Joe Namath from the same book source.
In any case, Its taking me a while to slog through it because the book tends to ramble.

[pakeha]

Originally Posted by Croydon Bob

...Yes, I've seen the actual site of the place where there used to be a tomb that wasn't painted by Poussin because he was never in the area and the tomb wasn't built until long after he had died.

So Poussin had a time machine, too?

Originally Posted by gasc

...thanks for your interest at my thread and discoverings . Sorry for my bad english but i do what i can!...

No worries about your English- practise makes perfect, after all.
I'd love to learn more about the stained glass and its role in this secret.
I admit I find it daunting you have constructed so much on the basis of two paintings which haven't been confirmed as being by Poussin.

[Maja]

Originally Posted by gasc

We know by FOUQUET letter, POUSSIN has a secret and all people have said :the secret for POUSSIN and RLC mystery was BERGERS ARCADIE which give secret :this painting has been studied thousand times but actually NOTHING real and concret about a tresure or secret in this painting . !nothing

Gasc, have you considered the possibility that the reason no one has discovered any clues about a treasure or secret in this painting is that there were never supposed to be any?

The painting "Et in Arcadia ego" or "Shepherds of Arcadia" does have a meaning, but it was never meant to be a secret one: it's a subject first painted by Guercino, and the meaning is that there is no escape from death, not even in the most beautiful places on earth. It's a similar sentiment to the one expressed in "Memento mori" still lives. It was never meant to be a mystery.

[Croydon Bob]

Originally Posted by pakeha

So Poussin had a time machine, too?

If we had to explain the similarity (we don't, it's a rectangular tomb, there's similar in graveyards all over the western world) then the obvious answer would be that the tomb was constructed based on the image in the painting. Some of the Rennies have conspiracy theories around this idea. Others stick to the nonsense that Poussin visited the area and painted the tomb that was already there while the evidence that it was constructed later was fabricated as part of the cover-up.

I like your time-machine theory. this explains EVERYTHING!!!! Poussin had a time machine, he hid it in the church at RLC. This is the treasure that Sauniere found. The holy bloodline nonsense can be added in because someone has been back and verified the marriage to Mary M and the Children, etc, blah. Now we just need to solve the mystery of where Poussin got his time machine!

[Lucian]

Originally Posted by Croydon Bob

If we had to explain the similarity (we don't, it's a rectangular tomb, there's similar in graveyards all over the western world) then the obvious answer would be that the tomb was constructed based on the image in the painting. Some of the Rennies have conspiracy theories around this idea. Others stick to the nonsense that Poussin visited the area and painted the tomb that was already there while the evidence that it was constructed later was fabricated as part of the cover-up.

I like your time-machine theory. this explains EVERYTHING!!!! Poussin had a time machine, he hid it in the church at RLC. This is the treasure that Sauniere found. The holy bloodline nonsense can be added in because someone has been back and verified the marriage to Mary M and the Children, etc, blah. Now we just need to solve the mystery of where Poussin got his time machine!

He borrowed it from William Shakespeare/the Earl of Oxford, according to my theory* that the Earl of Oxford was a time-traveling alien who wrote The Canterbury Tales and Beowulf as well as the works of Shakespeare.

*Should not be confused with any known use of the word "theory."

[Orphia Nay]

Originally Posted by Croydon Bob

we just need to solve the mystery of where Poussin got his time machine!

From one of these guys, including, naturally, Nostradamus.

http://australasianskeptics.info/vie...hp?f=14&t=1123

Quote:

Australian researcher RONALD PEGG discovered and confirmed that at least two modern cd-roms were taken back along with a computer and were seen back in the past, with their contents being described in Ancient Texts by certain named prophets.

Just quickly…
In a Sumerian Account they were named Tablet of Destiny and Tablet of Fate.
In Egyptian Mythology they were known as the RA-Disk and the Aten disk.
Moses called them the Tablets of Testimony and named them the Urim and Thummim.
Nostradamus was visited by time travellers and called the cd-roms Wheel of Destiny of Nations and Wheel of Time.
The Queen of France called them ‘magic circles’ and the information was seen on a ‘magic mirror’ (the monitor).
The rod of Moses and the wand of Nostradamus = a computer’s mouse and cable.

[LSSBB]

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

From one of these guys, including, naturally, Nostradamus.

http://australasianskeptics.info/vie...hp?f=14&t=1123

No doubt one of the discs ended up being the Grail, or one of the three lost books from Labrynth.

The real mystery is how the laptop batteries held up so long. Bamboo Tech?

[pakeha]

Bamboo tech!

Still, I like the Ozzi Pegg's explanation better.

I simply can't get around the dimensionsof the time and energy spent by the OP on the subject, without having gone to the obvious measure of confirming the paintings are actually by Poussin.

[gasc]

THE FAMOUS PARCHMENTS speak about GENESARETH :IT'S A KEY OF THIS MYSTERY!MY PAINTING WITH THE "BARQUE" IS ON GENESARETH!

1) The coded parchmentsBelow, an exclusive study, sent this site by Mr. Gerard Papadimopoulos, we thank:Text translation detached from the rest of the message (BLES REDIS SACERDOTIBUS SOLIS) is: The Treasure of Rennes is for insiders.On the other hand, one can see that if we draw a diagonal line starting from the cross, to the right instead of the fourth row just before the word MANDU to the second cross which is on the tenth line continuing towards this diagonal penultimate N the last line, the word ZION. We can deduce that the message has to do with THE PRIORY OF SION. The signature on the message being that of the priory without context.Sign the certificate No. 2 is singular. At first glance this does not sound like much, but if we return this signature, appears once again the word ZION.When the letters A (reversed) and N, their meanings remain unproven (note: one direction?). What we can say is that they seem connected by an arrow imperfect.There are also signs or letters written in small print, if you take these signs for letters and we follow their order in the text, then we discover a new cryptic message: REX MUNDI is REXMUNDI: King of the World.Is this a new key to understanding a new message in the text?In the middle of the text we find the letter A written in uppercase, while all the other "a" is lowercase. A continuing after this, we see another sign, Omega.So we ALPHA and Omega, the beginning and end.Between these two signs, letters shifted up giving us: ARETH.By taking up the other seven letters shifted, we ADGENES. By assembling all this, we find: AD Gennesaret: Towards Genesareth.Genesareth Lake Tiberias or the Sea of Galilee, which holds an important place in the New Testament.By taking down the other letters offset, we obtain: Panis SAL: The bread and salt.
Here is a New Key: Towards Genesareth, bread and salt.
http://www.renneslechateau.com/francais/parch2.htm

2) the serpent rouge is an “opuscule” on the mystery RLC . it’s an enigmatic book and it’s one more time a proof of the relation between this mystery and my paintings . read this link of my site with these links:
http://www.light-of-truth.com/gunnar...s_Treasure.pdf
http://mysteresdelaude.com/?page_id=51
http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/arcadie.php

[dafydd]

Originally Posted by gasc

the famous parchments speak about genesareth :it's a key of this mystery!my painting with the "barque" is on genesareth!

1) the coded parchmentsbelow, an exclusive study, sent this site by mr. Gerard papadimopoulos, we thank:text translation detached from the rest of the message (bles redis sacerdotibus solis) is: The treasure of rennes is for insiders.on the other hand, one can see that if we draw a diagonal line starting from the cross, to the right instead of the fourth row just before the word mandu to the second cross which is on the tenth line continuing towards this diagonal penultimate n the last line, the word zion. We can deduce that the message has to do with the priory of sion. The signature on the message being that of the priory without context.sign the certificate no. 2 is singular. At first glance this does not sound like much, but if we return this signature, appears once again the word zion.when the letters a (reversed) and n, their meanings remain unproven (note: One direction?). What we can say is that they seem connected by an arrow imperfect.there are also signs or letters written in small print, if you take these signs for letters and we follow their order in the text, then we discover a new cryptic message: Rex mundi is rexmundi: King of the world.is this a new key to understanding a new message in the text?in the middle of the text we find the letter a written in uppercase, while all the other "a" is lowercase. A continuing after this, we see another sign, omega.so we alpha and omega, the beginning and end.between these two signs, letters shifted up giving us: Areth.by taking up the other seven letters shifted, we adgenes. By assembling all this, we find: Ad gennesaret: Towards genesareth.genesareth lake tiberias or the sea of galilee, which holds an important place in the new testament.by taking down the other letters offset, we obtain: Panis sal: The bread and salt.
Here is a new key: Towards genesareth, bread and salt.
http://www.renneslechateau.com/francais/parch2.htm

2) the serpent rouge is an “opuscule” on the mystery rlc . It’s an enigmatic book and it’s one more time a proof of the relation between this mystery and my paintings . Read this link of my site with these links:
http://www.light-of-truth.com/gunnar...s_treasure.pdf
http://mysteresdelaude.com/?page_id=51
http://www.lesecretdepoussin.com/arcadie.php

what mystery!!!!!!!!!!!