Home schooling anybody?

[Johnny Brant]

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

[Amazer]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

No home-schooling for my 2 kids. I prefer to have them educated by people that are more qualified than I am. (Besides, home-schooling is not an option here)

[Johnny Brant]

Looking back at the teachers I had, most were rotten to the core, filling our heads with false values, I wouldn't entrust them with a goldfish let alone a precious child.
Home schooling is allowed in GB and the US at least.

[Olowkow]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Looking back at the teachers I had, most were rotten to the core, filling our heads with false values, I wouldn't entrust them with a goldfish let alone a precious child.
Home schooling is allowed in GB and the US at least.

What do you mean by "false values"? Quite a few home schooled kids wind up with nothing but religion, and false notions of the natural world. It is a little ambiguous from what you are saying.

[Lanzy]

No, Unless you are a qualified teacher you will do a bad job of it.

[Kid Eager]

Nice opening with a false dichotomy.

Disclosure: Both my parents are teachers. I was not home schooled.

I am more than happy to entrust the formal education of my children to people who have the skills and qualifications to do so.

I am also neither narcissistic nor unintelligent enough to believe that:
a. I know everything or am competent at everything - including child education; nor
b. that having a child go to school somehow removes the ability or the responsibility of the parent to help the child prepare for life in those formative years.

[Kid Eager]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Looking back at the teachers I had, most were rotten to the core, filling our heads with false values, I wouldn't entrust them with a goldfish let alone a precious child.
Home schooling is allowed in GB and the US at least.

Nice anecdote, bro.

[Amazer]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Looking back at the teachers I had, most were rotten to the core, filling our heads with false values, I wouldn't entrust them with a goldfish let alone a precious child.

Yet here you are.

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Home schooling is allowed in GB and the US at least.

So? I'm not living in the US or the UK.

[fuelair]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

Very loaded question pointing at an obvious desired answer. Not a good way to make questions up. And you've done it at least twice. Much better to straight out ask a question and wait for answers before you pull the trick out.

[jasonpatterson]

I am one of those complete strangers you're mentioning, by the way. If among the things you consider false values that teachers promote are fairness, honesty, and curiosity, then I'm guilty as charged. My daughter just started kindergarten this year, and while I don't particularly like her teacher, I can't find any fault in the values that she has encouraged.

Which values do you consider false that your rotten teachers tried to cram into your head?

In retrospect, I only had two really bad teachers in K-12. One was a psycho who threw things at the kids, the other was a wretched English teacher in high school.

[marplots]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

And while we are at it, do you do home orthodontics or trust your kid's mouth to complete strangers?

I do some car repairs myself. I sometimes break my car because of it.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

Absolutely. I entrusted my children to public education without even a moment's hesitation.

[TheGoldcountry]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

What's wrong with doing both? I don't see it as an either/or proposition.

[Orphia Nay]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

Yeah, a teacher remains a complete stranger for a full school year.

[Denver]

Why does it have to be either/or?

[Johnny Brant]

Originally Posted by Olowkow

What do you mean by "false values"? Quite a few home schooled kids wind up with nothing but religion, and false notions of the natural world. It is a little ambiguous from what you are saying.

Home schooling is easy, just teach 'em to read and write and they're set up for life!
Oh and don't forget to buy a thick, colourful home encyclopaedia for them to browse through..
Am I the only one who had lousy teachers?

[hcmom]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Does anybody here home-school their kids, or are you happy to entrust them to complete strangers (teachers) for years of their impressionable young lives?

I made it a point to not have the teachers be complete strangers for very long at all.

[hcmom]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Home schooling is easy, just teach 'em to read and write and they're set up for life!
Oh and don't forget to buy a thick, colourful home encyclopaedia for them to browse through..

Since I don't know anyone who wrote encyclopedias, I'd still be letting them learn from strangers.

[AdMan]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Home schooling is easy, just teach 'em to read and write and they're set up for life!
Oh and don't forget to buy a thick, colourful home encyclopaedia for them to browse through..
Am I the only one who had lousy teachers?

Based on your recent posts in other areas of the forum, I sincerely hope you're not trying to home-school your own kids.

[BravesFan]

I tend to think that the socialization skills of public school are damn near as important as the education itself. My mom teaches special ed and I asked her opinion of this and she said "well, some home schooled kids who come back to school are ahead or at the proper level, some come back and it seems they were't taught anything at all"

I reckon, like most other things in life, you tend to get out of it how much you put into it. If a parent is dedicated and does the work (and makes their kid do the work) then the education part can be just fine.

I have a friend who has 2 kids under 3 and he is all about some home schooling, he dismissed my idea that the socialization skills of public school are important and he thinks that they will get that in other ways... I'm not 100% sure about that. Often times the only black folks people will encounter on a social level down here (as a kid anyway) are school and sports/activites. I don't see that kind of multi-racial/multi-cultural interacton taking place otherwise... not as an elementary school kid anyway.

[fuelair]

Originally Posted by hcmom

Since I don't know anyone who wrote encyclopedias, I'd still be letting them learn from strangers.

Not to mention there are an awful lot of Colorful, Thick, Happy Home Encyclopedias that have a crapload of mediocre, poor, outdated and/or generally incorrect information in them. This is not invariably a good thing for your kids.

[fuelair]

Originally Posted by AdMan

Based on your recent posts in other areas of the forum, I sincerely hope you're not trying to home-school your own kids.

Though (and this is truly not just a casual put down) wondering if J may be at least partially a product of same. That just
teach to read and write thing.........

[Kid Eager]

Originally Posted by fuelair

Though (and this is truly not just a casual put down) wondering if J may be at least partially a product of same. That just
teach to read and write thing.........

I'm predicting that this flurry of posting on any topic is just a means of getting the post count up to do the atavar thing, start posting links, then home in on the actual topic that he/she/it is here for, leading to a slow-burn death by mod...

[marplots]

Originally Posted by BravesFan

I have a friend who has 2 kids under 3 and he is all about some home schooling, he dismissed my idea that the socialization skills of public school are important and he thinks that they will get that in other ways... I'm not 100% sure about that. Often times the only black folks people will encounter on a social level down here (as a kid anyway) are school and sports/activites. I don't see that kind of multi-racial/multi-cultural interacton taking place otherwise... not as an elementary school kid anyway.

Yeah, that socialization thing isn't all it's cracked up to be. Let the kids get socialized the same way the rest of us do -- TV and the Internet. That's bound to be half the curriculum anyhow.

Home schooling has come a long way. As long as they follow a decent course and do the work, the parent may learn as much as the kid. I don't see how they can afford all the accessories though. Things like microscopes and all that neat chemistry stuff. A good imagination would probably help.

[JJM 777]

I studied at home the two last years of high school, because I felt that sitting and sleeping in the classroom was waste of time. In Finland it is permissible to opt out totally from class studies, but not half-time sometimes attendind and sometimes not.

The pace of study is for morons in the classroom. Studying at home ended the waste of time, but it also ended any incentive to study at all, I became lazy and barely opened any book ever, and the marks sank like a stone to the bottom.

Performance-wise not a good idea.

[Orphia Nay]

I know two people who are homeschooling their kids.

One is a vehement Creationist and UFO nut.

The other believes in any woo she can lay her hands on. Her son wants to play the guitar, but she doesn't know how, and she doesn't want him to learn from anyone but herself.

[Joey McGee]

Teach your child how to be a skeptical, scientific thinker. Instil in them a good moral sense. Encourage though actions and education a mental immune system that will protect them against idiots, bullies, sociopaths and the unintentioned folly of the average person. Then you won't have to worry about silly problems at your average public school in the western world.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by Joey McGee

Teach your child how to be a skeptical, scientific thinker. Instil in them a good moral sense. Encourage though actions and education a mental immune system that will protect them against idiots, bullies, sociopaths and the unintentioned folly of the average person. Then you won't have to worry about silly problems at your average public school in the western world.

You say that as though it were possible to teach a child all that before kindergarten.

[Roboramma]

I suspect it's easier for a parent to become engaged in his or her child's education while that child is attending public school (looking over and helping with homework, addressing questions the child has, ensuring your knowledge is up to the level necessary to give this sort of aid, etc.) than to completely take over the role that the teachers fill.

In which case, said parent should know first hand what sort of education his or her child is receiving, what sorts of values are being instilled, etc. and thus there's no issue at all with regards to "strangers" educating his or her child.

On the other hand, failing to become engaged in his or her child's education will likely have a greater affect on his or her child's ability to take advantage of that education than the quality (or lack thereof) of the teachers involved.

[Hokulele]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Looking back at the teachers I had, most were rotten to the core...

What makes you so sure it was the teachers, hm?

[OnlyTellsTruths]

Is this an attack on the OP or an attack on home-schooling?

If it's the latter, I assume links to large studies comparing regular and home schooling will be forthcoming.

[Orphia Nay]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Looking back at the teachers I had, most were rotten to the core, filling our heads with false values, I wouldn't entrust them with a goldfish let alone a precious child.
Home schooling is allowed in GB and the US at least.

Originally Posted by Olowkow

What do you mean by "false values"? Quite a few home schooled kids wind up with nothing but religion, and false notions of the natural world. It is a little ambiguous from what you are saying.

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Home schooling is easy, just teach 'em to read and write and they're set up for life!
Oh and don't forget to buy a thick, colourful home encyclopaedia for them to browse through..
Am I the only one who had lousy teachers?

Sorry, but could you try and explain what those "false values" were that you were taught?

If you could, could you also tell us what sort of school you went to?

Cheers.

[slingblade]

Originally Posted by AdMan

Based on your recent posts in other areas of the forum, I sincerely hope you're not trying to home-school your own kids.

I sometimes wonder if bridges have the ability to become lonely...

[psionl0]

I have no problem trusting my kids with teachers.

It's the bureaucrats who tell teachers what to teach that have me worried.

[Amazer]

Originally Posted by Johnny Brant

Home schooling is easy, just teach 'em to read and write and they're set up for life!

Way back in 1235 perhaps.... nowadays a tiny itsy bit more is required.

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Oh and don't forget to buy a thick, colourful home encyclopaedia for them to browse through..

It might give them some necessary general knowledge but utterly fails to provide them with the required diploma's that they need later in life.

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Am I the only one who had lousy teachers?

Doubtful, I assume that you were in a class with other students... thus at least your class mates would have had the same lousy teachers as you

[Craig4]

I've going to make a prediction here and say that Jonny Brant objects to science being taught to his children.

[Eddie Dane]

Home-schooling isn't allowed where I live.

But I applaud the concept.

After all, it means less competition for my kids when they hit the universities and the workforce.

I'm sure home-schooled kids will be a minor thread for kids that have gone to a good school, been through tiger-mom homework bootcamp, read books with dad and are taken to a museum every other weekend.

If you home-school your kids, be sure to include essential sentences such as:
'Would you like fries with that'.
'Paper or plastic?'

[tyr_13]

I want to go to a museum every other weekend. Adopt me?

[Hokulele]

Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths

Is this an attack on the OP or an attack on home-schooling?

Neither.

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If it's the latter, I assume links to large studies comparing regular and home schooling will be forthcoming.

Regular? By that are you referring to public, private, Waldorf, Montessori, or Bob Jones U? Pre-kindergarten? Primary? Secondary? Public in the US sense, or the UK? Public (assuming US) in a well-funded district, or one that is less so?

Now does my question make more sense, or would you still prefer to view it as a personal attack on the OP or an attack on home-schooling, rather than as an attack on a vague claim without context?

[Eddie Dane]

Originally Posted by tyr_13

I want to go to a museum every other weekend. Adopt me?

I have to admit it is mostly the same four museums that get rotated.