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Chucky · 26th May 2012, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by paiute

he is currently a northern conservative baptist great lakes region council of 1912 convert.

heretic!

Humes fork · 26th May 2012, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by Baloney

I agree. Being an atheist, I prefer to identify as an "atheist through skepticism" as opposed to "atheist because that's the next religious outlook on the list." My ex-wife is an atheist also, but believes in ghosts, UFOs, and crystal magic -- sure she's an atheist, due to the lack of god-beliefs, but carries a lot of woo baggage despite the label.

I agree with you. Atheism is an issue, IMO an important issue, but not the only one. I think an organization based on atheism is a lacking idea.

There are various woo-subcultures that are largely atheistic, such as Randroids and singularitards.

LordofTruth · 26th May 2012, 09:58 PM

Just quickly FYI: I'm in the middle of composing a bit of a defence of Robert Spencer, and in doing so I came across a website, and thought I'd post it here quickly in case it dissapears (I think it's new, and it does (arguably) call for violence, and I'm not sure where it's hosted). If it's genuine then it's a dark gem - a fantastic and very professional jihadist website in English, with lots of video footage, especially of the recent riot in Bonn. I'm going to email it to Jihad Watch too, I'm sure they'll be interested.

http://www.izharudeen.com/index.html

Baloney · 26th May 2012, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Humes fork

I agree with you. Atheism is an issue, IMO an important issue, but not the only one. I think an organization based on atheism is a lacking idea.

Just to be clear, I don't have an issue with organizations based upon atheism with regards to promoting civil-rights, community, and outreach for atheists -- despite the reasons for the members' beliefs or lack of beliefs.

Originally Posted by Humes fork

There are various woo-subcultures that are largely atheistic, such as Randroids and singularitards.

By this you mean Ayn Rand and Singularity enthusiasts, right? You must be some kind of Hatheist!

ANTPogo · 26th May 2012, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by LordofTruth

Just quickly FYI: I'm in the middle of composing a bit of a defence of Robert Spencer

Of course you are.

LordofTruth · 26th May 2012, 11:12 PM

I was. I'm not sure I'll finish it now though. My activity here tends to correlate very srongly with the amount of assignments I should be doing instead, and I really need to focus on my homework now.

The jist of my reply was going to be that I don't think it's fair to confuse a source of information with the quality of that information, and that it seems a particularly odd thing to do on a skeptics forum.

26th May 2012, 01:02 AM	#41
Chucky Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 324	Originally Posted by paiute he is currently a northern conservative baptist great lakes region council of 1912 convert. heretic!
Chucky Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 324	Last edited by Chucky; 26th May 2012 at 01:03 AM. Reason: Emphasis added

26th May 2012, 06:39 AM	#42
Humes fork Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,470	Originally Posted by Baloney I agree. Being an atheist, I prefer to identify as an "atheist through skepticism" as opposed to "atheist because that's the next religious outlook on the list." My ex-wife is an atheist also, but believes in ghosts, UFOs, and crystal magic -- sure she's an atheist, due to the lack of god-beliefs, but carries a lot of woo baggage despite the label. I agree with you. Atheism is an issue, IMO an important issue, but not the only one. I think an organization based on atheism is a lacking idea. There are various woo-subcultures that are largely atheistic, such as Randroids and singularitards.
	__________________ "Faith is the surrender of the mind; it’s the surrender of reason, it’s the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other mammals. It’s our need to believe, and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated." - Christopher Hitchens

26th May 2012, 09:58 PM	#43
LordofTruth Thinker Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 153	Just quickly FYI: I'm in the middle of composing a bit of a defence of Robert Spencer, and in doing so I came across a website, and thought I'd post it here quickly in case it dissapears (I think it's new, and it does (arguably) call for violence, and I'm not sure where it's hosted). If it's genuine then it's a dark gem - a fantastic and very professional jihadist website in English, with lots of video footage, especially of the recent riot in Bonn. I'm going to email it to Jihad Watch too, I'm sure they'll be interested. http://www.izharudeen.com/index.html
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26th May 2012, 10:07 PM	#44
Baloney Muse Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: America! (F, yeah!) Posts: 666	Originally Posted by Humes fork I agree with you. Atheism is an issue, IMO an important issue, but not the only one. I think an organization based on atheism is a lacking idea. Just to be clear, I don't have an issue with organizations based upon atheism with regards to promoting civil-rights, community, and outreach for atheists -- despite the reasons for the members' beliefs or lack of beliefs. Originally Posted by Humes fork There are various woo-subcultures that are largely atheistic, such as Randroids and singularitards. By this you mean Ayn Rand and Singularity enthusiasts, right? You must be some kind of Hatheist!
	__________________ _{When I think about woo, I detect myself.} Last edited by Baloney; 26th May 2012 at 10:29 PM.

26th May 2012, 10:15 PM	#45
ANTPogo Unique Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 9,596	Originally Posted by LordofTruth Just quickly FYI: I'm in the middle of composing a bit of a defence of Robert Spencer Of course you are.
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26th May 2012, 11:12 PM	#46
LordofTruth Thinker Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 153	I was. I'm not sure I'll finish it now though. My activity here tends to correlate very srongly with the amount of assignments I should be doing instead, and I really need to focus on my homework now. The jist of my reply was going to be that I don't think it's fair to confuse a source of information with the quality of that information, and that it seems a particularly odd thing to do on a skeptics forum.
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