Repent - Page 2

Ladewig · 26th May 2012, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by rcfieldz

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...n-college?lite

May we ask you, in the future, to use the title or the opening post to explain exactly what the topic is?
A cryptic word and a blind link somewhat violates internet etiquette.

Nay_Sayer · 26th May 2012, 06:22 PM

I guess I can use this moment to coin a new term; RCFailz

orlykthnxbai · 28th May 2012, 09:41 AM

One of my favorite quotes from this:

"Obviously, if it's underground, they know it’s wrong and on some level they know they shouldn't be doing it"

Geee... A Roman official could have said that of a certain oddball "cult" known for meeting in the catacombs....

orlykthnxbai

Uncle Otto · 28th May 2012, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by orlykthnxbai

One of my favorite quotes from this:

"Obviously, if it's underground, they know it’s wrong and on some level they know they shouldn't be doing it"

Geee... A Roman official could have said that of a certain oddball "cult" known for meeting in the catacombs....

orlykthnxbai

Here's the thing------the administration has flat out said that they would kick out anyone who is "living the lifestyle". In other words, you can be a gay student, but you just can't do anything about it. They say they want an open "dialogue" with these students-----what for? So they can either try to "fix" their gayness, or to identify those to line up for possible expulsion?

The bad part is that probably at least some of these students are there because that's where family/financial pressure put them.

Baloney · 28th May 2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by orlykthnxbai

Geee... A Roman official could have said that of a certain oddball "cult" known for meeting in the catacombs....

Originally Posted by Uncle Otto

Here's the thing------the administration has flat out said that they would kick out anyone who is "living the lifestyle". In other words, you can be a gay student, but you just can't do anything about it. They say they want an open "dialogue" with these students-----what for? So they can either try to "fix" their gayness, or to identify those to line up for possible expulsion?

At least, unlike with the Romans, they'll only get expelled (and given a proper Christian-side-beating).

orlykthnxbai · 28th May 2012, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Uncle Otto

Here's the thing------the administration has flat out said that they would kick out anyone who is "living the lifestyle". In other words, you can be a gay student, but you just can't do anything about it. They say they want an open "dialogue" with these students-----what for? So they can either try to "fix" their gayness, or to identify those to line up for possible expulsion?

The bad part is that probably at least some of these students are there because that's where family/financial pressure put them.

As someone who quit church for Lent many years ago, I can tell you from experience that administrators (or other powers in the background) might just decide to expand "living the lifestyle" definition. I would be shocked if they didn't catch a few straight people up in the dragnet.

I can see some nice young lady getting dragged in for the "Inquisition PE(Protestant Edition)"(TM) for changing her own tire, or some young man with a drama / theater background in trouble because he knows one too many "Show Tunes".

Sounds messed up, but I've seen stupid things like that happen.

orlykthnxbai

(Currently an Atheist who figured out one does not have to be narrow to be straight)

Kopji · 28th May 2012, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Situated in the heart of Southern California, Biola is just a short drive from beautiful beaches, world-renowned entertainment venues and a wealth of diverse cultural opportunities.
http://www.biola.edu/about/

Ah! sounds just like paradise.
A little about themselves:

Quote:

The Bible, consisting of all the books of the Old and New Testaments, is the Word of God, a supernaturally given revelation from God Himself, concerning Himself, His being, nature, character, will and purposes; and concerning man, his nature, need and duty and destiny. The Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are without error or misstatement in their moral and spiritual teaching and record of historical facts. They are without error or defect of any kind...
http://www.biola.edu/about/doctrinal-statement/

So it's paradise and all that too.
But nothing really specific against homosexuality. (Maybe it went without saying.)

I can sorta understand why an atheist might want to join the Boy Scouts, but I would think that a school that holds Biola's doctrinal beliefs would deter someone who identified themselves as LGBT, (maybe they hoped so too).

I mean, why attend there? To be a gay student at Biola would be to lend support to a program that exists to disenfranchise you at every turn. You would have to lie to get in, and if you protested later that would be evidence you lacked Christian Truthiness. Even if you slipped by teh gayz firewall - protesting would only serve as a facade. Biola would enjoy the appearance that there is some kind of legitimate discussion of higher values going on - that Biola is perhaps open minded or progressive enough to accept dissent in their midst.

From their on line newsletter:

Quote:

...While I do think we can all agree (for the most part at least) that open and honest dialogue is necessary to work through the difficult issues brought up by the BQU, the problem is that face to face conversations cannot safely happen for those who continue to identify as LGBTQ because of their fear of expulsion.

It's easy for those who are not LBGTQ to say that we should all talk openly and honestly, but the only way that can realistically happen is if Biola clearly changes their policy so the openly LGBTQ students will not face disciplinary actions for identifying as LGBTQ. This isn't an argument that Biola should change their policies, but just that open and honest dialogue cannot truly happen until those policies are changed. You can't ask people to be open and honest and then punish them for being open and honest.

http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/m...hallening-con/

Sure you can.

Lamuella · 29th May 2012, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by The Dark Lord

Why would gay students even want to go to a school like this?

A lot of times, parents are involved in school choice. A kid from a conservative christian family might not be able to say he or she wants to go to a big cosmopolitan school.

Multivac · 31st May 2012, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Bikewer

Fascinating. I do wonder about the thought processes of gay Christians, especially of the more fundamentalist sort.
Sure, JC is supposed to love everyone, but his old man was kinda down on the whole gay thing.
Of course, we have the gay Republicans as well....

A friend of mine is a gay catholic, and we have had many discussions about his religions attitute to gays, but I still have no idea how he retains his faith.

rcfieldz · 2nd June 2012, 11:46 AM

1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners...

joobz · 2nd June 2012, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by rcfieldz

1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners...

that's a bad touch.

Hercules Rockefeller · 2nd June 2012, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by rcfieldz

1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners...

Are they gay?

Tricky · 2nd June 2012, 12:31 PM

I had two gay guys doing some interior decorating for me, but when they painted the walls, the paint they used had so much turpentine in it that it didn't even cover the old paint, so I confronted them and cried, "Repaint, you thinners!"

I Ratant · 2nd June 2012, 02:46 PM

Not your best work.

Hercules Rockefeller · 2nd June 2012, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by I Ratant

Not your best work.

You just have to read it in the voice of Daffy Duck.

Baloney · 2nd June 2012, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by rcfieldz

1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners...

Actually, 1 Timothy 5:22 says "enough already with the hand-laying, people!"

Quote:

22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, and do not share in the sins of others. Keep yourself pure.

Also, nowhere in that book does it mentioning "curing gay."

I'm betting people were just as easy to fool back then:

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Nay_Sayer · 2nd June 2012, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by rcfieldz

1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners...

I ask again, What am I repenting for?

tsig · 2nd June 2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer

I ask again, What am I repenting for?

Being human, it offends god something fierce.

Baloney · 2nd June 2012, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer

I ask again, What am I repenting for?

From the OP, I'd say he wants you to repent for gay. Also, I think he believes the same as these folks...

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Minoosh · 2nd June 2012, 06:33 PM

I seriously don't know what Christian rule forbids gayness.

I could see sexual ethics tilting toward monogamous committed relationships - in other words, marriage, which would be a sticking point. However, in some Christian traditions civil approval isn't necessarily required for two people to form such a bond. Anyway I don't really know what the scriptural basis for the prohibition is, other than the Old Testament.

keale · 2nd June 2012, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

I seriously don't know what Christian rule forbids gayness.

I could see sexual ethics tilting toward monogamous committed relationships - in other words, marriage, which would be a sticking point. However, in some Christian traditions civil approval isn't necessarily required for two people to form such a bond. Anyway I don't really know what the scriptural basis for the prohibition is, other than the Old Testament.

I think the closest thing is this

And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’” (Matt. 19:4.)

But nothing specific in the NT

Baloney · 2nd June 2012, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by keale

I think the closest thing is this

And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’” (Matt. 19:4.)

But nothing specific in the NT

Let's face it: if there was a real god like the one claimed in the Old Testament and New, and he wasn't a complete incompetent dumb****, -- oh, also, was actually intent on people NOT going to the Hell he created -- then I would think he would have explicitly said, "Hey, gay people shouldn't be married, or be gay at all, for that matter," just like he (allegedly) did for eating shellfish. But guess what: he didn't.

Either the Christian god doesn't exist, or he's a dumb****.

Andrew Wiggin · 2nd June 2012, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Moss

Fridge logic made me wonder what's up with the church being Christ's bride but most members are male...

Several sects have made it clear than while visualizing one's self in bed with jesus one should image one's self as a female to avoid the gay.

Orphia Nay · 2nd June 2012, 11:33 PM

What does it accomplish to repent?

Repent? And then what?

Nay_Sayer · 3rd June 2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Baloney

From the OP, I'd say he wants you to repent for gay. Also, I think he believes the same as these folks...

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I'm gay?.... Why am I always the last to find these things out?!

Moss · 3rd June 2012, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by rcfieldz

1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners...

That still does not have any connections to this thread...

orlykthnxbai · 8th June 2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Baloney

At least, unlike with the Romans, they'll only get expelled (and given a proper Christian-side-beating).

Yeah.....and then after the beating(s), some will still mutter to themselves "But the church still loves me !"

I've seen that before.....

orlykthnxbai

Olowkow · 9th June 2012, 01:47 PM

Sexual Hypocrisy and the Religious Right - Max Blumenthal

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The above video is worth watching in my opinion.

Quote:

It is almost a perfect storm. The party of family values, is revealed as the largest walk-in closet in America.

Blumenthal captures very eloquently the connection between the religious right wing and their fear of the gay issues. I tend to think he is correct, or at least there is plenty of apparent confirmation of his claims recently. His explanation is enlightening, given the notion that one continually hears from fundamentalists that being gay is a choice...preference for evil, etc. in spite of overwhelming evidence from closeted gays among them.

26th May 2012, 04:33 PM	#41
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,792	Originally Posted by rcfieldz http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...n-college?lite May we ask you, in the future, to use the title or the opening post to explain exactly what the topic is? A cryptic word and a blind link somewhat violates internet etiquette.
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26th May 2012, 06:22 PM	#42
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28th May 2012, 09:41 AM	#43
orlykthnxbai New Blood Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21	One of my favorite quotes from this: "Obviously, if it's underground, they know it’s wrong and on some level they know they shouldn't be doing it" Geee... A Roman official could have said that of a certain oddball "cult" known for meeting in the catacombs.... orlykthnxbai
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28th May 2012, 03:30 PM	#45
Baloney Muse Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: America! (F, yeah!) Posts: 666	Originally Posted by orlykthnxbai Geee... A Roman official could have said that of a certain oddball "cult" known for meeting in the catacombs.... Originally Posted by Uncle Otto Here's the thing------the administration has flat out said that they would kick out anyone who is "living the lifestyle". In other words, you can be a gay student, but you just can't do anything about it. They say they want an open "dialogue" with these students-----what for? So they can either try to "fix" their gayness, or to identify those to line up for possible expulsion? At least, unlike with the Romans, they'll only get expelled (and given a proper Christian-side-beating).
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28th May 2012, 07:54 PM	#46
orlykthnxbai New Blood Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21	Originally Posted by Uncle Otto Here's the thing------the administration has flat out said that they would kick out anyone who is "living the lifestyle". In other words, you can be a gay student, but you just can't do anything about it. They say they want an open "dialogue" with these students-----what for? So they can either try to "fix" their gayness, or to identify those to line up for possible expulsion? The bad part is that probably at least some of these students are there because that's where family/financial pressure put them. As someone who quit church for Lent many years ago, I can tell you from experience that administrators (or other powers in the background) might just decide to expand "living the lifestyle" definition. I would be shocked if they didn't catch a few straight people up in the dragnet. I can see some nice young lady getting dragged in for the "Inquisition PE(Protestant Edition)"(TM) for changing her own tire, or some young man with a drama / theater background in trouble because he knows one too many "Show Tunes". Sounds messed up, but I've seen stupid things like that happen. orlykthnxbai (Currently an Atheist who figured out one does not have to be narrow to be straight)
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28th May 2012, 12:47 PM	#44
Uncle Otto Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 356	Originally Posted by orlykthnxbai One of my favorite quotes from this: "Obviously, if it's underground, they know it’s wrong and on some level they know they shouldn't be doing it" Geee... A Roman official could have said that of a certain oddball "cult" known for meeting in the catacombs.... orlykthnxbai Here's the thing------the administration has flat out said that they would kick out anyone who is "living the lifestyle". In other words, you can be a gay student, but you just can't do anything about it. They say they want an open "dialogue" with these students-----what for? So they can either try to "fix" their gayness, or to identify those to line up for possible expulsion? The bad part is that probably at least some of these students are there because that's where family/financial pressure put them.

28th May 2012, 11:31 PM	#47
Kopji Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mogollon Rim Posts: 7,697	Quote: Situated in the heart of Southern California, Biola is just a short drive from beautiful beaches, world-renowned entertainment venues and a wealth of diverse cultural opportunities. http://www.biola.edu/about/ Ah! sounds just like paradise. A little about themselves: Quote: The Bible, consisting of all the books of the Old and New Testaments, is the Word of God, a supernaturally given revelation from God Himself, concerning Himself, His being, nature, character, will and purposes; and concerning man, his nature, need and duty and destiny. The Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are without error or misstatement in their moral and spiritual teaching and record of historical facts. They are without error or defect of any kind... http://www.biola.edu/about/doctrinal-statement/ So it's paradise and all that too. But nothing really specific against homosexuality. (Maybe it went without saying.) I can sorta understand why an atheist might want to join the Boy Scouts, but I would think that a school that holds Biola's doctrinal beliefs would deter someone who identified themselves as LGBT, (maybe they hoped so too). I mean, why attend there? To be a gay student at Biola would be to lend support to a program that exists to disenfranchise you at every turn. You would have to lie to get in, and if you protested later that would be evidence you lacked Christian Truthiness. Even if you slipped by teh gayz firewall - protesting would only serve as a facade. Biola would enjoy the appearance that there is some kind of legitimate discussion of higher values going on - that Biola is perhaps open minded or progressive enough to accept dissent in their midst. From their on line newsletter: Quote: ...While I do think we can all agree (for the most part at least) that open and honest dialogue is necessary to work through the difficult issues brought up by the BQU, the problem is that face to face conversations cannot safely happen for those who continue to identify as LGBTQ because of their fear of expulsion. It's easy for those who are not LBGTQ to say that we should all talk openly and honestly, but the only way that can realistically happen is if Biola clearly changes their policy so the openly LGBTQ students will not face disciplinary actions for identifying as LGBTQ. This isn't an argument that Biola should change their policies, but just that open and honest dialogue cannot truly happen until those policies are changed. You can't ask people to be open and honest and then punish them for being open and honest. http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/m...hallening-con/ Sure you can.

29th May 2012, 01:36 AM	#48
Lamuella Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,480	Originally Posted by The Dark Lord Why would gay students even want to go to a school like this? A lot of times, parents are involved in school choice. A kid from a conservative christian family might not be able to say he or she wants to go to a big cosmopolitan school.
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31st May 2012, 07:18 AM	#49
Multivac Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,931	Originally Posted by Bikewer Fascinating. I do wonder about the thought processes of gay Christians, especially of the more fundamentalist sort. Sure, JC is supposed to love everyone, but his old man was kinda down on the whole gay thing. Of course, we have the gay Republicans as well.... A friend of mine is a gay catholic, and we have had many discussions about his religions attitute to gays, but I still have no idea how he retains his faith.

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joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,493	Originally Posted by rcfieldz 1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners... that's a bad touch.
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2nd June 2012, 11:53 AM	#52
Hercules Rockefeller Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ponylandistan Posts: 1,382	Originally Posted by rcfieldz 1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners... Are they gay?
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2nd June 2012, 03:49 PM	#55
Hercules Rockefeller Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ponylandistan Posts: 1,382	Originally Posted by I Ratant Not your best work. You just have to read it in the voice of Daffy Duck.
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2nd June 2012, 05:55 PM	#57
Nay_Sayer Muse Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 741	Originally Posted by rcfieldz 1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners... I ask again, What am I repenting for?

2nd June 2012, 06:25 PM	#58
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,688	Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer I ask again, What am I repenting for? Being human, it offends god something fierce.

2nd June 2012, 06:33 PM	#60
Minoosh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,490	I seriously don't know what Christian rule forbids gayness. I could see sexual ethics tilting toward monogamous committed relationships - in other words, marriage, which would be a sticking point. However, in some Christian traditions civil approval isn't necessarily required for two people to form such a bond. Anyway I don't really know what the scriptural basis for the prohibition is, other than the Old Testament.
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2nd June 2012, 08:05 PM	#61
keale Muse Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 813	Originally Posted by Minoosh I seriously don't know what Christian rule forbids gayness. I could see sexual ethics tilting toward monogamous committed relationships - in other words, marriage, which would be a sticking point. However, in some Christian traditions civil approval isn't necessarily required for two people to form such a bond. Anyway I don't really know what the scriptural basis for the prohibition is, other than the Old Testament. I think the closest thing is this And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’” (Matt. 19:4.) But nothing specific in the NT
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2nd June 2012, 08:27 PM	#62
Baloney Muse Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: America! (F, yeah!) Posts: 666	Originally Posted by keale I think the closest thing is this And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’” (Matt. 19:4.) But nothing specific in the NT Let's face it: if there was a real god like the one claimed in the Old Testament and New, and he wasn't a complete incompetent dumb**, -- oh, also, was actually intent on people NOT going to the Hell he created -- then I would think he would have explicitly said, "Hey, gay people shouldn't be married, or be gay at all, for that matter," just like he (allegedly) did for eating shellfish. But guess what: he didn't. Either the Christian god doesn't exist, or he's a dumb**.
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2nd June 2012, 08:54 PM	#63
Andrew Wiggin Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: A small planet named for its dirt. You'll find it filed under 'mostly harmless' Posts: 2,914	Originally Posted by Moss Fridge logic made me wonder what's up with the church being Christ's bride but most members are male... Several sects have made it clear than while visualizing one's self in bed with jesus one should image one's self as a female to avoid the gay.
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3rd June 2012, 10:06 PM	#66
Moss Dramatocrat Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Heiligsblechle country Posts: 3,229	Originally Posted by rcfieldz 1 Timothy 5:22 . when the preacher touches the followers forehead with his palm and exclaims, "Heal The" and is caught falling backwards to the floor by fellow parishioners... That still does not have any connections to this thread...

8th June 2012, 07:17 AM	#67
orlykthnxbai New Blood Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21	Originally Posted by Baloney At least, unlike with the Romans, they'll only get expelled (and given a proper Christian-side-beating). Yeah.....and then after the beating(s), some will still mutter to themselves "But the church still loves me !" I've seen that before..... orlykthnxbai
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