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fourtoe · 8th June 2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by 000063

What does that even mean?

To graduate from flying saucer school you gotta knit a dress in less than 6 seconds. That ET was just a slacker.

Robrob · 8th June 2012, 08:19 PM

In claiming to be prior military service, one of our resident trolls develops a case of selective memory:

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

If I ever did hear REMF it wasn't important enough to be worthy to remember.
And I'm sure I never heard it as an acrimonious acronym. Never heard it in over 40 years at the posts. I guess the pussies dwell on it.

FenerFan · 9th June 2012, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by 000063

What does that even mean?

I think it means in order to knit a dress in under 5 seconds, this person must take a saw to an alien prior to the start of the knitting process. Obviously, the time required to knit the dress would be greater than 5 seconds if (a) no alien can be found, (b) no saw can be found, (c) a saw is found but it is not sufficiently sharpened to actually cause damage to the alien. Duh!

Robrob · 9th June 2012, 04:15 PM

From a FaceBook debate about various CT. CT claims "The 4th Amendment has been gutted." Invariably when asked for proof responds:

Quote:

CT: "Almost every traffic stop can and often does get turned into a narcotics search. Many more examples if I choose to waste the time...

Quote:

CT: I guess the people here haven't watched COPS ("but that's just a TV show"), yeah right..."

Classic...

TSR · 10th June 2012, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Robrob

From a FaceBook debate about various CT. CT claims "The 4th Amendment has been gutted." Invariably when asked for proof responds:

Classic...

I think this person needs to stop toking up in the car so the cops don't smell it...

Elizabeth I · 10th June 2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by garethdjb

A chemtrail-watcher on Facebook finds the idea of transatlantic flight suspicious:

LINK

I think we can close the nominations right now.

I wonder what this person thinks of Japan Air and Korean Air planes in the U.S.? Or El Al (never mind, those are the evil Joos.)

Tomtomkent · 10th June 2012, 10:48 AM

Because when your theory already involves Aliens with psychic powers, Utopia being a true story and not a work of fiction, money being evil, and claims your own posts are "proof" and "demonstrations" that you are right, you might as well throw in Genies and Angels in support of your claim too...

Originally Posted by Gaetan

Djinns and angel was with Jesus Christ when he faced the devil in the desert only when he got rid of him. If we want djinns and angels to support and be with us we got to prove that we are not with Satan and money but God.

Oh wait... I forgot Satan. You gotta have satan and god in there too.

LordXenu · 10th June 2012, 01:48 PM

Here's a FMOTL stundie on how the Federal Reserve owns everything:
http://www.henrymakow.com/they.html

Quote:

Most people believe that when they buy something that they are the real owner of it. However, when you understand the truth about maritime law, you will clearly see how this is nothing more than a fraud.

Historically, when people used gold or silver as actual currency, ownership of the object purchased transferred from the seller to the buyer.

If a chair was purchased for $10 and the buyer paid in $10 worth of gold or silver, it was an even exchange and thus the buyer completely owned the chair.

Today this is no longer true.

In 1913, the 16th amendment authorized the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank. The FED then created the "Federal Reserve Note" which is not a true currency at all.

Unknown to most, each U.S. dollar has a "lien of ownership" that follows it wherever it goes. This lien transfers ownership of anything purchased back to the institution that created it, i.e. the Federal Reserve Bank.

Article 1, section 8 of the U.S Constitution states that Congress alone has the right to "coin money".

However, The FED is a private foreign bank and the U.S. dollar is not United States money.

Ever since the "ratification" of the 16th amendment and the creation of the "Federal Reserve note" nothing that you purchase is truly yours.

Ownership of all items purchased ultimately reverts back to the "Federal Reserve Bank" or (FED) due to the "lien of ownership" or "Maritime Hypothecation" that is attached to every dollar created by the fed.

The funny thing is if you follow the link and read the subsequent comments from other conspiracy theorists even they think this either makes or sense or is completely useless from any practical perspective.

Horatius · 10th June 2012, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by LordXenu

Here's a FMOTL stundie on how the Federal Reserve owns everything:
http://www.henrymakow.com/they.html

Wow, that reminds me of an old bit from comedian Steven Wright: "Have you seen my seashell collections? I keep it on the beaches of the world!"

The FED owns everything, they just store it all in other peoples' houses....

Travis · 10th June 2012, 11:44 PM

Well have you ever tried to kick the Fed out once they start sleeping on your couch? They just laugh then order another pizza expecting you to pay for it.

grandmastershek · 11th June 2012, 12:33 PM

I really can't stand how facts are so subjective:

Quote:

"You use terms like "facts" and "myths" as if words are not inherently subjective."

http://www.facebook.com/groups/911co...reaninsidejob/

Robrob · 11th June 2012, 04:52 PM

The WTC explosions were more like Michael Bay movies than we thought?

Quote:

Chris Hogg ‎"What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level. And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke" So a falling car was the explosion in the lobby? LOL what are you on?

thedopefishlives · 12th June 2012, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by tntruther

Bell,
Remember, what you see above the impact zone is equal or weaker than the structure below. The floor you are showing here is impacted only by the floors above. Those floors are not stronger. If there are 15 floor above, then at best, they would only crush 15 floor below. Nor are the columns above stronger than the columns below.
And, if the upper 15 floor did crush the lower 15 floors, it would have to slow down before it stopped at that 15th lower floor.
Actually what you see in the video footage is that the top part of the TTs collapse in to the lower floors before the lower floors start to disintegrate. So by the time the upper floors collapse, there is no power driver left to crush the rest of the building.

Truther math: 15-story upper block can only crush a 15-story lower block.

Dave Rogers · 12th June 2012, 07:54 AM

This is quite an interesting one from ergo.

Originally Posted by ergo

Yes, I've noticed this. How many opportunities have you guys had to present your case now? What is the difficulty?

"Nanothermite in the WTC has been disproven because:

1) ____________________________

2) ____________________________

3) ____________________________ "

This is opening up new horizons in trutherdom. Not only does ergo insist that we prove the null hypothesis, but for some reason he requires three different proofs; apparently only proving something once doesn't count.

Dave

Alareth · 12th June 2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

Truther math: 15-story upper block can only crush a 15-story lower block.

Obviously.

This complies with Newton's Third Law, Any action has an equal and opposite reaction.

LordXenu · 12th June 2012, 08:43 PM

The Illuminati are destroying British pubs and beer:
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_war_on_pubs.html

Quote:

The Illuminati are destroying everything that binds us together. Another front in this war, the British government is taxing pubs out of business. England is losing

A British pub is much more than a place to get drunk. It is a meeting place, the focal point of the community. Everyone has a 'local'.

Pubs are the last remnants of community in atomized Britain.

However, due to the crippling effect of government taxation, they are falling like dominos.

Since the start of the financial crisis in 2008, 4500 pubs have closed down. We are currently losing 50 a week.

Many people can longer afford to drink in a pub and buy beer from supermarkets instead. The average cost of a pint of beer in a pub is £3 ($4.75); from a supermarket, it is £1 ($1.55.)

When I was last in England, I noticed the number of people in my local had declined dramatically. In my hometown of 25,000 people, there were about 15 pubs. Now some of them are boarded up, sad shells of their former selves.

The government has placed monstrous taxes on beer.

These tax increases widen the gap between pubs and supermarkets, because pubs have much higher overheads.

For every £3 pint sold, more than £1 goes into the government coffers!

The duty on beer in Britain is an outrageous 55 pence per pint! This is 8 times more than the beer duty in France (a measly 7p) and 11 times more than Germany (5p)!

The duty on beer is much higher, in relative terms, than spirits. Britain has the smallest gap between beer and spirits duty in Europe. This is a sign that beer is being specifically targeted.

Under the previous New Labour government (1997-2010) the duty on beer increased by 60%, but the duty on spirits only increased by 25%. A few years ago, a former aide to Jack Straw revealed that Labour's 'open door' immigration policy was designed to destroy British culture forever. Were the tax increases on beer intended to do the same?

Robrob · 12th June 2012, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

Truther math: 15-story upper block can only crush a 15-story lower block.

Not to mention ignoring the obvious point, that 15 stories adds its mass to the below 15 stories. Now you have 30 stories which can only collapse the below 30, then 60, then 120, etc...

Tomtomkent · 12th June 2012, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by LordXenu

The Illuminati are destroying British pubs and beer:
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_war_on_pubs.html

Yes. It was awfully nice of the Illuminati to allow this to be debated at length in the commons before they made it happen through normal political means. Anybody would think that the Binge Drinking debate would have been going on for a decade or more. They might also wonder if people were going to pubs less and buying cheaper supermarket drinks because of the double dip recession.

But no. It was the illuminati.

And the distinguishing feature of a Local is its locality. It is the pub you visit by virtue of limited choice in staggering distance of home, sometimes the only pub at your end of town or in your village. If you visited it "last time you were in England" it probably is no longer your Local.

Travis · 13th June 2012, 04:27 AM

Hmmm, I can't stand pubs and bars as well. I never knew that could be part of our wider evil schemes for world domination. Now destroying drive-in theaters was an obvious decision.

Horatius · 13th June 2012, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Tomtomkent

And the distinguishing feature of a Local is its locality. It is the pub you visit by virtue of limited choice in staggering distance of home, sometimes the only pub at your end of town or in your village. If you visited it "last time you were in England" it probably is no longer your Local.

And, if he thinks paying $4.75 a pint is outrageous, he really should avoid drinking in Canadian pubs. That's about what it costs for a pint of the cheap stuff - when it's on special.

Border Reiver · 13th June 2012, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

And, if he thinks paying $4.75 a pint is outrageous, he really should avoid drinking in Canadian pubs. That's about what it costs for a pint of the cheap stuff - when it's on special.

That's why I drink in the Mess, or at home - premium beer in the mess for $3/bottle, Guinness cans for $4, regular beer for $2.75 and pop for a $1/can.

thedopefishlives · 13th June 2012, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by Robrob

Not to mention ignoring the obvious point, that 15 stories adds its mass to the below 15 stories. Now you have 30 stories which can only collapse the below 30, then 60, then 120, etc...

I thought about mentioning this to him, but I figured it would blow his mind. Either that, or he'd come up with some other cowardly dodge that defies the known laws of physics. Twoofers are known to do that.

Myron Proudfoot · 13th June 2012, 07:00 PM

Plus the bonus that the 16th Amendment did not actually create the Federal Reserve....

Dave Rogers · 14th June 2012, 01:24 AM

Here's a nice piece of disconnected thinking from ScootleRoyale at Debunking the Debunkers:

Quote:

We may have invested a lot of time into defending it, but don't worry, unlike debunkers, we don't let emotional investments and cognitive dissonance cloud our rational judgement!

Again, my big concern is what a refutation of Harrit et al will mean for AE911Truth and their movie. No amount of thermite debunking will convince me that the collapse explanations offered by NIST and Bazant are in any way consistent with the laws of physics, so I'll defend the 1700 individual A&Es to the death,

Move along folks, no emotional investment to be seen here.

Dave

Alareth · 14th June 2012, 09:04 AM

Tom DeWeese of the American Policy Center has some interesting ideas about Global Warming

Originally Posted by Tom DeWeese

Trees give off carbon dioxide; all the plants around us give it off. The fact is some scientists have done some studies saying we’ve got a carbon dioxide shortage right now. That then causes plants to die, that causes environmental damage.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...carbon-dioxide

Captain_Swoop · 14th June 2012, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

And, if he thinks paying $4.75 a pint is outrageous, he really should avoid drinking in Canadian pubs. That's about what it costs for a pint of the cheap stuff - when it's on special.

I drink in the Abbey or the Anchor in Guisborough. They are both Sam Smiths Brewery pubs and the beer is £1.60 a pint. If Sams can sell their Old Brewery Bitter for that price why can't the others? It's a conspiracy of greed by the companies that own the leases of most of the pubs and tie the leaseholders to buying beer through them rather than direct from the brewery.

My dad was a Pub Landlord for 8 or 9 years when he retired from the Navy. He had the lease on a 'Free House' He had no tie to a 'Pub Co' or to a Brewery. He was paying half the price for Beer compared to Landlords who had leases through the Pub Leasing companies.

thedopefishlives · 14th June 2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by SnakeTongue

This is a blatant false statement.

The most usual evidence presented here is just books of story-telling...

SnakeTongue knows exactly how to handle historical references: Dismiss them as "story-telling".

FluffyPersian · 14th June 2012, 11:28 AM

This is my first stundie nomination, and I think it's an excellent contender.

In trying to discredit Roberto's calculation of the number of people who can fit into a mass grave, SnakeTongue magically turns the unit of measurement "persons", in kg/person, into a variable that equals one while kg and cubic meters remain units of measurement. The point of this alchemy is to "prove" that Roberto's calculation results in the wrong unit.

The link to the full post is above, but here's the "money" part. Remember, he's talking about kg/person and trying to turn the unit "persons" into a variable called x.

Originally Posted by SnakeTongue

Kg / m^3 is mass per volume.

Kg / x is mass per variable value.

So, the only way to transform the measurement in common units is assume that x value is just 1

ANTPogo · 14th June 2012, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by FluffyPersian

This is my first stundie nomination, and I think it's an excellent contender. If you take time to read through it, it truly merits the adjective "stunning."

In trying to discredit Roberto's calculation of the number of people who can fit into a mass grave, SnakeTongue argues that persons, in the context of body weight per person,m are not a unit of measurement, but are instead a variable.

I was debating nominating this myself. So I'll just second your nomination!

thedopefishlives · 14th June 2012, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by ANTPogo

I was debating nominating this myself. So I'll just second your nomination!

I think all of us reading (or participating in) that thread were more than a little baffled by that one.

Sabrina · 14th June 2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Alareth

Tom DeWeese of the American Policy Center has some interesting ideas about Global Warming

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...carbon-dioxide

*blink*

*blink blink*

Umm... don't trees produce OXYGEN?

uke2se · 14th June 2012, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Sabrina

*blink*

*blink blink*

Umm... don't trees produce OXYGEN?

Nu-huh, and anyone telling you so is a liberal communist socialist!

thedopefishlives · 14th June 2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Clayton Moore

The ignorant assumption is that less than 1/3 of a modern steel framed building could fall through a pristine and undamaged over 2/3 of itself rather than take a path of least resistance AWAY FROM THE BUILDING.

Because when it comes to objects in motion, the forces involved don't matter. Everything should just automatically follow the "path of least resistance".

Biscuit · 14th June 2012, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

Because when it comes to objects in motion, the forces involved don't matter. Everything should just automatically follow the "path of least resistance".

Well buildings are a liquid after all.

thedopefishlives · 14th June 2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

Well buildings are a liquid after all.

It makes me wonder how people could ever die from bullet wounds. Wouldn't the bullet just follow the "path of least resistance" and jump off into empty space?

jaydeehess · 14th June 2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Horatius

And, if he thinks paying $4.75 a pint is outrageous, he really should avoid drinking in Canadian pubs. That's about what it costs for a pint of the cheap stuff - when it's on special.

you live in an expensive part on the country

I just bought beer at the local golf clubhouse yesterday
$3.75

jaydeehess · 14th June 2012, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

It makes me wonder how people could ever die from bullet wounds. Wouldn't the bullet just follow the "path of least resistance" and jump off into empty space?

or how about this instead
since the bullet must follow PoT then once it breaks the skin it will avoid bone AND therefore a head shot is very unlikely to cause brain damage

LSSBB · 14th June 2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

Well buildings are a liquid after all.

Been reading Thales, have we?

CORed · 14th June 2012, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

Because when it comes to objects in motion, the forces involved don't matter. Everything should just automatically follow the "path of least resistance".

This is part of the truther canon that has always mystified me. Do these people think that if I take a small rock, hold it above a big rock, and release it, that the small rock will go around the big rock instead of hitting it? What universe do these people live in?

Biscuit · 14th June 2012, 02:21 PM

Less than 5 minutes fishing on ATS secret and I come across this beauty. The thread is about the stones in the great pyramid being "man made" or something.

Quote:

We have no idea what "technologies" the Ancient Egyptians had. Technology doesn't have to mean the same as it does today. IMO they were far more advanced than we give them credit for. We can't even replicate their structures today with the tools and machines we have.

I have heard people say that egyptians couldn't have made the pyramids with the technology they had but never that modern man could not build the pyramids with the technology we have! I am fairly certain a trip to vegas will debunk this.

linky

8th June 2012, 04:02 PM	#41
fourtoe Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northridge, Ca Posts: 1,020	Originally Posted by 000063 What does that even mean? To graduate from flying saucer school you gotta knit a dress in less than 6 seconds. That ET was just a slacker.
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8th June 2012, 08:19 PM	#42
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	In claiming to be prior military service, one of our resident trolls develops a case of selective memory: Originally Posted by Clayton Moore If I ever did hear REMF it wasn't important enough to be worthy to remember. And I'm sure I never heard it as an acrimonious acronym. Never heard it in over 40 years at the posts. I guess the pussies dwell on it.
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9th June 2012, 01:23 AM	#43
FenerFan Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Istanbul...again Posts: 1,603	Originally Posted by 000063 What does that even mean? I think it means in order to knit a dress in under 5 seconds, this person must take a saw to an alien prior to the start of the knitting process. Obviously, the time required to knit the dress would be greater than 5 seconds if (a) no alien can be found, (b) no saw can be found, (c) a saw is found but it is not sufficiently sharpened to actually cause damage to the alien. Duh!
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9th June 2012, 04:15 PM	#44
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	From a FaceBook debate about various CT. CT claims "The 4th Amendment has been gutted." Invariably when asked for proof responds: Quote: CT: "Almost every traffic stop can and often does get turned into a narcotics search. Many more examples if I choose to waste the time... Quote: CT: I guess the people here haven't watched COPS ("but that's just a TV show"), yeah right..." Classic...
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10th June 2012, 03:00 AM	#45
TSR Do you know what this notorious criminal did? Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,788	Originally Posted by Robrob From a FaceBook debate about various CT. CT claims "The 4th Amendment has been gutted." Invariably when asked for proof responds: Classic... I think this person needs to stop toking up in the car so the cops don't smell it...
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10th June 2012, 09:57 AM	#46
Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,358	Originally Posted by garethdjb A chemtrail-watcher on Facebook finds the idea of transatlantic flight suspicious: LINK I think we can close the nominations right now. I wonder what this person thinks of Japan Air and Korean Air planes in the U.S.? Or El Al (never mind, those are the evil Joos.)
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10th June 2012, 10:48 AM	#47
Tomtomkent Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 5,346	Because when your theory already involves Aliens with psychic powers, Utopia being a true story and not a work of fiction, money being evil, and claims your own posts are "proof" and "demonstrations" that you are right, you might as well throw in Genies and Angels in support of your claim too... Originally Posted by Gaetan Djinns and angel was with Jesus Christ when he faced the devil in the desert only when he got rid of him. If we want djinns and angels to support and be with us we got to prove that we are not with Satan and money but God. Oh wait... I forgot Satan. You gotta have satan and god in there too.
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10th June 2012, 01:48 PM	#48
LordXenu Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 331	Here's a FMOTL stundie on how the Federal Reserve owns everything: http://www.henrymakow.com/they.html Quote: Most people believe that when they buy something that they are the real owner of it. However, when you understand the truth about maritime law, you will clearly see how this is nothing more than a fraud. Historically, when people used gold or silver as actual currency, ownership of the object purchased transferred from the seller to the buyer. If a chair was purchased for $10 and the buyer paid in $10 worth of gold or silver, it was an even exchange and thus the buyer completely owned the chair. Today this is no longer true. In 1913, the 16th amendment authorized the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank. The FED then created the "Federal Reserve Note" which is not a true currency at all. Unknown to most, each U.S. dollar has a "lien of ownership" that follows it wherever it goes. This lien transfers ownership of anything purchased back to the institution that created it, i.e. the Federal Reserve Bank. Article 1, section 8 of the U.S Constitution states that Congress alone has the right to "coin money". However, The FED is a private foreign bank and the U.S. dollar is not United States money. Ever since the "ratification" of the 16th amendment and the creation of the "Federal Reserve note" nothing that you purchase is truly yours. Ownership of all items purchased ultimately reverts back to the "Federal Reserve Bank" or (FED) due to the "lien of ownership" or "Maritime Hypothecation" that is attached to every dollar created by the fed. The funny thing is if you follow the link and read the subsequent comments from other conspiracy theorists even they think this either makes or sense or is completely useless from any practical perspective.
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10th June 2012, 06:38 PM	#49
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,028	Originally Posted by LordXenu Here's a FMOTL stundie on how the Federal Reserve owns everything: http://www.henrymakow.com/they.html Wow, that reminds me of an old bit from comedian Steven Wright: "Have you seen my seashell collections? I keep it on the beaches of the world!" The FED owns everything, they just store it all in other peoples' houses....
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10th June 2012, 11:44 PM	#50
Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 18,101	Well have you ever tried to kick the Fed out once they start sleeping on your couch? They just laugh then order another pizza expecting you to pay for it.
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11th June 2012, 12:33 PM	#51
grandmastershek Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Where you look at a thigh, and blacken an eye... Posts: 1,324	I really can't stand how facts are so subjective: Quote: "You use terms like "facts" and "myths" as if words are not inherently subjective." http://www.facebook.com/groups/911co...reaninsidejob/
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11th June 2012, 04:52 PM	#52
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	The WTC explosions were more like Michael Bay movies than we thought? Quote: Chris Hogg ‎"What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level. And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke" So a falling car was the explosion in the lobby? LOL what are you on?
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12th June 2012, 06:54 AM	#53
thedopefishlives Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 782	Originally Posted by tntruther Bell, Remember, what you see above the impact zone is equal or weaker than the structure below. The floor you are showing here is impacted only by the floors above. Those floors are not stronger. If there are 15 floor above, then at best, they would only crush 15 floor below. Nor are the columns above stronger than the columns below. And, if the upper 15 floor did crush the lower 15 floors, it would have to slow down before it stopped at that 15th lower floor. Actually what you see in the video footage is that the top part of the TTs collapse in to the lower floors before the lower floors start to disintegrate. So by the time the upper floors collapse, there is no power driver left to crush the rest of the building. Truther math: 15-story upper block can only crush a 15-story lower block.
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12th June 2012, 07:54 AM	#54
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In a world lit only by fire. Posts: 17,907	This is quite an interesting one from ergo. Originally Posted by ergo Yes, I've noticed this. How many opportunities have you guys had to present your case now? What is the difficulty? "Nanothermite in the WTC has been disproven because: 1) ____________________________ 2) ____________________________ 3) ____________________________ " This is opening up new horizons in trutherdom. Not only does ergo insist that we prove the null hypothesis, but for some reason he requires three different proofs; apparently only proving something once doesn't count. Dave
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12th June 2012, 08:00 AM	#55
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,806	Originally Posted by thedopefishlives Truther math: 15-story upper block can only crush a 15-story lower block. Obviously. This complies with Newton's Third Law, Any action has an equal and opposite reaction.
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12th June 2012, 08:43 PM	#56
LordXenu Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 331	The Illuminati are destroying British pubs and beer: http://www.henrymakow.com/the_war_on_pubs.html Quote: The Illuminati are destroying everything that binds us together. Another front in this war, the British government is taxing pubs out of business. England is losing A British pub is much more than a place to get drunk. It is a meeting place, the focal point of the community. Everyone has a 'local'. Pubs are the last remnants of community in atomized Britain. However, due to the crippling effect of government taxation, they are falling like dominos. Since the start of the financial crisis in 2008, 4500 pubs have closed down. We are currently losing 50 a week. Many people can longer afford to drink in a pub and buy beer from supermarkets instead. The average cost of a pint of beer in a pub is £3 ($4.75); from a supermarket, it is £1 ($1.55.) When I was last in England, I noticed the number of people in my local had declined dramatically. In my hometown of 25,000 people, there were about 15 pubs. Now some of them are boarded up, sad shells of their former selves. The government has placed monstrous taxes on beer. These tax increases widen the gap between pubs and supermarkets, because pubs have much higher overheads. For every £3 pint sold, more than £1 goes into the government coffers! The duty on beer in Britain is an outrageous 55 pence per pint! This is 8 times more than the beer duty in France (a measly 7p) and 11 times more than Germany (5p)! The duty on beer is much higher, in relative terms, than spirits. Britain has the smallest gap between beer and spirits duty in Europe. This is a sign that beer is being specifically targeted. Under the previous New Labour government (1997-2010) the duty on beer increased by 60%, but the duty on spirits only increased by 25%. A few years ago, a former aide to Jack Straw revealed that Labour's 'open door' immigration policy was designed to destroy British culture forever. Were the tax increases on beer intended to do the same?
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12th June 2012, 09:21 PM	#57
Robrob Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,660	Originally Posted by thedopefishlives Truther math: 15-story upper block can only crush a 15-story lower block. Not to mention ignoring the obvious point, that 15 stories adds its mass to the below 15 stories. Now you have 30 stories which can only collapse the below 30, then 60, then 120, etc...
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12th June 2012, 10:42 PM	#58
Tomtomkent Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 5,346	Originally Posted by LordXenu The Illuminati are destroying British pubs and beer: http://www.henrymakow.com/the_war_on_pubs.html Yes. It was awfully nice of the Illuminati to allow this to be debated at length in the commons before they made it happen through normal political means. Anybody would think that the Binge Drinking debate would have been going on for a decade or more. They might also wonder if people were going to pubs less and buying cheaper supermarket drinks because of the double dip recession. But no. It was the illuminati. And the distinguishing feature of a Local is its locality. It is the pub you visit by virtue of limited choice in staggering distance of home, sometimes the only pub at your end of town or in your village. If you visited it "last time you were in England" it probably is no longer your Local.
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13th June 2012, 04:27 AM	#59
Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 18,101	Hmmm, I can't stand pubs and bars as well. I never knew that could be part of our wider evil schemes for world domination. Now destroying drive-in theaters was an obvious decision.
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13th June 2012, 04:34 AM	#60
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,028	Originally Posted by Tomtomkent And the distinguishing feature of a Local is its locality. It is the pub you visit by virtue of limited choice in staggering distance of home, sometimes the only pub at your end of town or in your village. If you visited it "last time you were in England" it probably is no longer your Local. And, if he thinks paying $4.75 a pint is outrageous, he really should avoid drinking in Canadian pubs. That's about what it costs for a pint of the cheap stuff - when it's on special.
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13th June 2012, 04:57 AM	#61
Border Reiver Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 2,257	Originally Posted by Horatius And, if he thinks paying $4.75 a pint is outrageous, he really should avoid drinking in Canadian pubs. That's about what it costs for a pint of the cheap stuff - when it's on special. That's why I drink in the Mess, or at home - premium beer in the mess for $3/bottle, Guinness cans for $4, regular beer for $2.75 and pop for a $1/can.
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13th June 2012, 05:03 AM	#62
thedopefishlives Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 782	Originally Posted by Robrob Not to mention ignoring the obvious point, that 15 stories adds its mass to the below 15 stories. Now you have 30 stories which can only collapse the below 30, then 60, then 120, etc... I thought about mentioning this to him, but I figured it would blow his mind. Either that, or he'd come up with some other cowardly dodge that defies the known laws of physics. Twoofers are known to do that.
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13th June 2012, 07:00 PM	#63
Myron Proudfoot Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington DC area. Posts: 967	Plus the bonus that the 16th Amendment did not actually create the Federal Reserve....
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14th June 2012, 01:24 AM	#64
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In a world lit only by fire. Posts: 17,907	Here's a nice piece of disconnected thinking from ScootleRoyale at Debunking the Debunkers: Quote: We may have invested a lot of time into defending it, but don't worry, unlike debunkers, we don't let emotional investments and cognitive dissonance cloud our rational judgement! Again, my big concern is what a refutation of Harrit et al will mean for AE911Truth and their movie. No amount of thermite debunking will convince me that the collapse explanations offered by NIST and Bazant are in any way consistent with the laws of physics, so I'll defend the 1700 individual A&Es to the death, Move along folks, no emotional investment to be seen here. Dave
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14th June 2012, 09:04 AM	#65
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,806	Tom DeWeese of the American Policy Center has some interesting ideas about Global Warming Originally Posted by Tom DeWeese Trees give off carbon dioxide; all the plants around us give it off. The fact is some scientists have done some studies saying we’ve got a carbon dioxide shortage right now. That then causes plants to die, that causes environmental damage. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...carbon-dioxide
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14th June 2012, 10:01 AM	#66
Captain_Swoop Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3,980	Originally Posted by Horatius And, if he thinks paying $4.75 a pint is outrageous, he really should avoid drinking in Canadian pubs. That's about what it costs for a pint of the cheap stuff - when it's on special. I drink in the Abbey or the Anchor in Guisborough. They are both Sam Smiths Brewery pubs and the beer is £1.60 a pint. If Sams can sell their Old Brewery Bitter for that price why can't the others? It's a conspiracy of greed by the companies that own the leases of most of the pubs and tie the leaseholders to buying beer through them rather than direct from the brewery. My dad was a Pub Landlord for 8 or 9 years when he retired from the Navy. He had the lease on a 'Free House' He had no tie to a 'Pub Co' or to a Brewery. He was paying half the price for Beer compared to Landlords who had leases through the Pub Leasing companies.
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14th June 2012, 11:21 AM	#67
thedopefishlives Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 782	Originally Posted by SnakeTongue This is a blatant false statement. The most usual evidence presented here is just books of story-telling... SnakeTongue knows exactly how to handle historical references: Dismiss them as "story-telling".
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14th June 2012, 11:28 AM	#68
FluffyPersian Thinker Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 191	This is my first stundie nomination, and I think it's an excellent contender. In trying to discredit Roberto's calculation of the number of people who can fit into a mass grave, SnakeTongue magically turns the unit of measurement "persons", in kg/person, into a variable that equals one while kg and cubic meters remain units of measurement. The point of this alchemy is to "prove" that Roberto's calculation results in the wrong unit. The link to the full post is above, but here's the "money" part. Remember, he's talking about kg/person and trying to turn the unit "persons" into a variable called x. Originally Posted by SnakeTongue Kg / m^3 is mass per volume. Kg / x is mass per variable value. So, the only way to transform the measurement in common units is assume that x value is just 1
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14th June 2012, 11:34 AM	#69
ANTPogo Unique Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 9,598	Originally Posted by FluffyPersian This is my first stundie nomination, and I think it's an excellent contender. If you take time to read through it, it truly merits the adjective "stunning." In trying to discredit Roberto's calculation of the number of people who can fit into a mass grave, SnakeTongue argues that persons, in the context of body weight per person,m are not a unit of measurement, but are instead a variable. I was debating nominating this myself. So I'll just second your nomination!
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14th June 2012, 11:35 AM	#70
thedopefishlives Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 782	Originally Posted by ANTPogo I was debating nominating this myself. So I'll just second your nomination! I think all of us reading (or participating in) that thread were more than a little baffled by that one.
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14th June 2012, 11:47 AM	#71
Sabrina Wicked Lovely Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spinning through space Posts: 6,874	Originally Posted by Alareth Tom DeWeese of the American Policy Center has some interesting ideas about Global Warming http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...carbon-dioxide blink blink blink Umm... don't trees produce OXYGEN?
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14th June 2012, 11:55 AM	#72
uke2se Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,229	Originally Posted by Sabrina blink blink blink Umm... don't trees produce OXYGEN? Nu-huh, and anyone telling you so is a liberal communist socialist!
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14th June 2012, 11:56 AM	#73
thedopefishlives Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 782	Originally Posted by Clayton Moore The ignorant assumption is that less than 1/3 of a modern steel framed building could fall through a pristine and undamaged over 2/3 of itself rather than take a path of least resistance AWAY FROM THE BUILDING. Because when it comes to objects in motion, the forces involved don't matter. Everything should just automatically follow the "path of least resistance".
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14th June 2012, 12:15 PM	#74
Biscuit Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,917	Originally Posted by thedopefishlives Because when it comes to objects in motion, the forces involved don't matter. Everything should just automatically follow the "path of least resistance". Well buildings are a liquid after all.
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14th June 2012, 12:21 PM	#75
thedopefishlives Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 782	Originally Posted by Biscuit Well buildings are a liquid after all. It makes me wonder how people could ever die from bullet wounds. Wouldn't the bullet just follow the "path of least resistance" and jump off into empty space?
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