[Moderated] Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held? - Page 5

Agatha · 13th June 2012, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Thank you, Agatha, for your answers.

If you apply for a refund, then do it now. There is no need to send your second son to work as a volunteer at the 2012 Olympic Games for there it will be cancelled anyway. The Games will not be pushed through according to the Holy Spirit we talk to. Do you believe this?

Quite frankly, I don't believe a word of it. I'm not going to get a refund just yet, nor am I going to cancel my adult son's arrangements. If the Olympics and Paralympics don't happen, I'll come back here and admit I was wrong, but I've said this (or equivalent) to a fair few failed prophets here and I've never needed to admit to being wrong, since they've never been correct yet. Paul Bethke was convinced the World Cup Final in 2010 would be cancelled - it wasn't. Dani'El was convinced California was going to be destroyed and he'd be transported to Israel fairly recently - again, it didn't happen.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I am just passing on to you what He said. It is up to you to decide whether you will believe Him or not.

I don't.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

He gave many prophecies, including the yearly “Record of Life” or “Talaan ng Buhay”. He said in the 1979-10-19 prophecy, “The ambition and motivation for war will be perennial inducements among all races until such inducements are made manifest three years after 1979.” Three years after 1979 is 1982. Did we have wars in 1982? Have you heard of the Falkland War? Or the Israelis' invasion of Lebanon?

Yes. There are wars somewhere in the world all the time, 1982 was not a special year in any way. Predicting a year without a conflict somewhere in the word would be slightly more interesting.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Would you like to know the coincidences in my life? I have written them in five parts. I could post them one a day.

Don't trouble yourself, coincidences are not proof of anything except that coincidences happen. To everyone, all the time. Humans are very good at finding meanings and patterns in random events, and those suffering from certain psychiatric disorders are more prone to finding patterns where there are none.

The only thing that sets this prophecy apart from a mountain of failed prophecies is the short time scale.

As I write this now on 13th June at 14.31, there are 44 days, 7 hours and 29 minutes to go before the Olympics begin. If WWIII starts inside these 44 days, and the Olympics are cancelled, I'll apologise to you for my unbelief. I won't start believing in a God, and I could not worship the God of the Bible even if I believed in him. But I will concede that the prophecy, however it was made, was correct.

However, if the Olympics proceed as planned, and WWIII does not start by the time they commence, will you apologise for your failed prophecy? Will you accept that the spirit you are listening to cannot be God, if it gets things wrong?

Foolmewunz · 13th June 2012, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

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Thank you, Jack by the hedge, for being honest that you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit who I believe.

Did you know that it took me eleven years (1983-1994) of doubt before I believed Him? Did you know that I embarked in 1999 to check if His revelations of the birth of Jesus on May 23 and His death on August 17 were correct? Did you know that had I proven Him wrong, I would have withdrawn and renounced my faith in Him? You may read about this in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled “From doubt to belief”.

BEechwood 4-5789

Just in case.... Are you aware that when we say, "discuss... and paranormal", that we're actually a board full of skeptics, e.g. we ask for evidence for just about anything. "Feel it in your heart" or "Come to God" do not count as evidence (in case you're heading there next).

In fact, many of us are outright agnostics and atheists.

I mention this because we've had a number of true believers who came here after misinterpreting the banner to mean that this place is friendly to the claims of the paranormal.

If you can offer evidence of your claims in some form other than "Open Yourself to God and You Will See", we might be able to discuss this "... in a friendly and lively way". If you cannot, you're going to continue to get a lot of cats toying with a mouse type responses (mine included).

Akhenaten · 13th June 2012, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Does Zombie Jesus (or do you) have a cunning plan in place which will help you to communicate this vital information to the seven billion people on Earth who don't speak Tagalog?

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[font=Verdana]You can help by warning the people through the Internet about the impending calamitous war.

37½

Can you send me a list of the people who already know about it? It will save me a lot of time if I don't have to type their addresses into the cc box.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

[font=Verdana]Were the people warned on World War II? Were the people warned of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on 1941-12-07?

146¾

No, the US Government decided it would cause less panic if they were warned the next day.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

[font=Verdana]We should be thankful that the Holy Spirit is warning us of the coming disaster.

∞

Indeed. Do you have his address? I'll send some flowers or something.

Damien Evans · 13th June 2012, 07:13 AM

10100101

This is fantastic.

PeaceCrusader · 13th June 2012, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

BEechwood 4-5789

Just in case.... Are you aware that when we say, "discuss... and paranormal", that we're actually a board full of skeptics, e.g. we ask for evidence for just about anything. "Feel it in your heart" or "Come to God" do not count as evidence (in case you're heading there next).

In fact, many of us are outright agnostics and atheists.

I mention this because we've had a number of true believers who came here after misinterpreting the banner to mean that this place is friendly to the claims of the paranormal.

If you can offer evidence of your claims in some form other than "Open Yourself to God and You Will See", we might be able to discuss this "... in a friendly and lively way". If you cannot, you're going to continue to get a lot of cats toying with a mouse type responses (mine included).

20120614.0005

I came to this forum before to participate in the One Million Dollar Challenge. So I went to the Philippines in 2007 to ask the Holy Spirit if Ka Apaz (His platform) and I, with His help, would accept the challenge. He declined. And that was it.

I went to the Philippines last month and talked to the Holy Spirit on 05-01 and 05-03. I would like to share to people in this forum what I heard and learned from Him about the 2012 Olympic Games and the calamitous war. I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I believe in. It is up to the people whether they will believe it or not. Anyway, as the English poet William Ernest Henley said in Invictus, “I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.”

PeaceCrusader · 13th June 2012, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

Quite frankly, I don't believe a word of it. I'm not going to get a refund just yet, nor am I going to cancel my adult son's arrangements. If the Olympics and Paralympics don't happen, I'll come back here and admit I was wrong, but I've said this (or equivalent) to a fair few failed prophets here and I've never needed to admit to being wrong, since they've never been correct yet. Paul Bethke was convinced the World Cup Final in 2010 would be cancelled - it wasn't. Dani'El was convinced California was going to be destroyed and he'd be transported to Israel fairly recently - again, it didn't happen.

I don't.

Yes. There are wars somewhere in the world all the time, 1982 was not a special year in any way. Predicting a year without a conflict somewhere in the word would be slightly more interesting.

Don't trouble yourself, coincidences are not proof of anything except that coincidences happen. To everyone, all the time. Humans are very good at finding meanings and patterns in random events, and those suffering from certain psychiatric disorders are more prone to finding patterns where there are none.

The only thing that sets this prophecy apart from a mountain of failed prophecies is the short time scale.

As I write this now on 13th June at 14.31, there are 44 days, 7 hours and 29 minutes to go before the Olympics begin. If WWIII starts inside these 44 days, and the Olympics are cancelled, I'll apologise to you for my unbelief. I won't start believing in a God, and I could not worship the God of the Bible even if I believed in him. But I will concede that the prophecy, however it was made, was correct.

However, if the Olympics proceed as planned, and WWIII does not start by the time they commence, will you apologise for your failed prophecy? Will you accept that the spirit you are listening to cannot be God, if it gets things wrong?

20120614.0040

I am not forcing anyone including yourself, Agatha, to believe in what I believe in. I am just passing on what I heard and learned from who I believe is the Holy Spirit.

I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God.

JimBenArm · 13th June 2012, 08:07 AM

Kansas City, MO 64155

I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to do, myself.

Jack by the hedge · 13th June 2012, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

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I would like to share to people in this forum what I heard and learned from Him about the 2012 Olympic Games and the calamitous war. I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I believe in.

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I may have missed something. What information have you shared with us regarding the 2012 Olympic games?

You started with a title which asks a question (will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?) but did not make a prediction, and then you opened by asking another question (did we think history would repeat itself).

So far you have made (as best I recall) 3 actual predictions;

1) China will invade the Phillippenes
2) Manila will be destroyed
3) A 3rd world war will kill 2/3 of humanity.

Now we might infer from this that you mean the London Olympics will be abandoned because a Chinese invasion of the Phillippenes will precipitate WWIII.

But strictly speaking, you have not said that these three events listed above will coincide, nor have you said when any of them will happen. Even if any of them eventually does happen, it might be thousands of years in the future. You have certainly not declared that any of them will happen before the London Olympics.

So what exactly does this thread of yours have to do with its declared topic of the 2012 Olympics?

<edit> Ah. I see you have now made an explicit declaration. Thank you. But will you please check that what you wrote is what you intended? 'If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails...'

AdMan · 13th June 2012, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

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[font=Verdana]I am not forcing anyone including yourself, Agatha, to believe in what I believe in. I am just passing on what I heard and learned from who I believe is the Holy Spirit.

Poland 1 - Russia 1

Peace, did the Holy Spirit tell you to post here? If not, what do you expect to accomplish? Do you honestly think anyone is going to read your posts and say "PeaceCrusader has opened my eyes to the Holy Spirit and I BELIEEEVE!! AMEN!!!"

Let me give you a clue: it ain't gonna happen.

rambaldi · 13th June 2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

42.
Nope. Neither believe in it or worship it.

Even if one believes in the Holy Spirit, why should anyone believe that HE/SHE/IT is talking to PC?

philkensebben · 13th June 2012, 08:34 AM

Why does God hate Usain Bolt?

JimBenArm · 13th June 2012, 08:38 AM

One is the loneliest number.

He hates him because he's not Filipino. Duh.

Jack by the hedge · 13th June 2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by philkensebben

Why does God hate Usain Bolt?

Jealousy?

I'm sure I read He was a jealous God.

JimBenArm · 13th June 2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

Jealousy?

I'm sure I read He was a jealous God.

So he's green, then.

God is Green Lantern?

AdMan · 13th June 2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

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I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God.

25 or 6 to 4

Why didn't you brand him as a false prophet when his prediction that your calendar would be implemented globally didn't happen?

Ocelot · 13th June 2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

“If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others.

That'd be dashed reasonable of you sir.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God.

May?

philkensebben · 13th June 2012, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

So he's green, then.

God is Green Lantern?

Kurt Cobain was right? God is actually gay?

rambaldi · 13th June 2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor.

I assume the above should be "if the Olympics do proceed as planned"

Just wanted to make sure this does not get lost...

JimBenArm · 13th June 2012, 08:46 AM

Westport 1- 7100

Actually, I take back God being Green Lantern.
He's more like The Incredible Hulk.

"Hulk mad! Hulk smash!"

Jack by the hedge · 13th June 2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

Westport 1- 7100

Actually, I take back God being Green Lantern.
He's more like The Incredible Hulk.

"Hulk mad! Hulk smash!"

Whitehall 1212

Or the Jolly Green Giant. Jolly Green Giant Psychopath.

Captain_Swoop · 13th June 2012, 09:02 AM

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I think the OP should be applauded for actualy making predictions that are both explict andf with deadlines.

Usualy we just get some vague waffle that something might happen sometime.

maggot9779 · 13th June 2012, 09:21 AM

People that believe they have a direct line to some god are pretty scary. You never know what they could do in the name of that god.

Paul · 13th June 2012, 09:30 AM

2 4 6 8 motorway

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

The Holy Spirit revealed 19 prophecies on 1979-10-19

I could have sworn I just said that.

Quote:

I have written three. I still have to write the rest. So much to do and I am in a hurry for I am old already

What you have actually done is write 19 prophesies and provided empty links to "evidences or proofs I have gathered proving the prophecy's fulfillment" for 3 of them. All that work in only 33 years.

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One of the 19 prophecies states, “Heaven will make certain significant revelations which, however, will escape peoples’ notice due to their engrossment in self-centered activities.”

Not a very impressive heaven is it. Revelations that are so significant people are too busy doing anything else to take any notice.

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Is His prophecy regarding the coming Olympic Games in London not significant?

No. It is not.

Quote:

And yet people are ignoring His warnings and doing crazy things (“nagbabaliw-baliwan”), and assuming that they do not hear it (“nagbibingi-bingihan”) or not see it (“nagbubulag-bulagan”).

That's because it's nonsense, and not even interesting or colourful nonsense like some of the other nutters out there.

Quote:

The Holy Spirit said that two-thirds of mankind will die in the coming reduction of people in the world.

He says a lot of things, like "Nameless diseases will spread the cause of which will not be known, and such diseases will exact a heavy toll of human beings and work animals" and "Worms of all kinds will plague crops and ricefields to destruction; all vegetation will be affected"

Quote:

In Noah’s time, all except Noah and his family died.

No they didn't.

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He knows who will survive and those who will die. Will you survive, Paul, or will you die?

Really he knows the names of 4.697 billion people?

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I was wrong that the Aristean Calendar was not implemented by 2011, but I firmly believe that it will eventually become the official standard primary calendar of the world.

What, in your long history of being completely wrong, leads you to this conclusion?

Agatha · 13th June 2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

am not forcing anyone including yourself, Agatha, to believe in what I believe in. I am just passing on what I heard and learned from who I believe is the Holy Spirit.
I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God.

10538 Overture

It would take more than one fulfilled prophecy to get me to believe in the sort of god that is referenced in the Bible. Mind you, just one fulfilled prophecy would be a good start, we've been discussing the abject failure of Biblical prophecy in another thread and so far, the believers have come up empty of fulfilled prophecy except those which have been post-dicted.

I assume you mean that

If the Olympics do go ahead as planned

AND

WWIII does not commence before 27 July 2012

then you will consider this a failed, or false, prophecy.

Professor Yaffle · 13th June 2012, 09:34 AM

Why does the Holy Spirit lie to you, PeaceCrusader?

JimBenArm · 13th June 2012, 09:34 AM

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I'm sure it will be a simple misunderstanding, and God actually meant the Winter Olympics.

Jack by the hedge · 13th June 2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

10538 Overture

...I assume you mean that

If the Olympics do go ahead as planned...

Northside 777

I wouldn't be at all surprised if that got used as an excuse later: "No, no, the Holy Spirit said 'If the Olympics does not proceed as planned'...".

It's teh miracle of teh Holy Typo.

Jack by the hedge · 13th June 2012, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Professor Yaffle

Why does the Holy Spirit lie to you, PeaceCrusader?

It's his punishment for trying to use Holy Revelation to win a million bucks.

Cl1mh4224rd · 13th June 2012, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

The God that I am referring to is the true God for not all gods that people worship is the true God. There is only one true God and the others are false gods. Be able to discern the true God from the false gods.

That's what everyone says. You'll need to do better.

Originally Posted by rambaldi

Couldn't that God have chosen someone with a little less exotic language?

PeaceCrusader's god is apparently not multilingual. I would have expected a bit more from the "one, true God".

commandlinegamer · 13th June 2012, 10:11 AM

New Gold Dream 81/82/83/84

The Siren and the Ecstasy
Crashing Beats and Fantasy
Dream in the dream with Me

Agatha · 13th June 2012, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

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I'm sure it will be a simple misunderstanding, and God actually meant the Winter Olympics.

99 red balloons.

Or the Rio de Janeiro Olympics in 2016, or the PyeongChang Winter Olympics in 2018....

Goalpost moving seems to be the favourite sport of Prophets these days.

Damien Evans · 13th June 2012, 10:52 AM

666 The Number Of The Beast, 666 The One For You And Me

Any bets on how he'll wiggle out of it when it doesn't happen?

Elizabeth I · 13th June 2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

BEechwood 4-5789

No. 10 Downing Street

Hey! BEechwood 4-5789 was going to be my next number!

Now you've thrown the whole thing off course and I'll have to clean up the mess. Naturally.

Agatha · 13th June 2012, 11:03 AM

Paul Hardcastle's 19

Paul (the poster, not Hardcastle afaik) ninjad me with 2 4 6 8 motorway.

The Central Scrutinizer · 13th June 2012, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

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Thank you, Jack by the hedge, for being honest that you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit who I believe.

Did you know that it took me eleven years (1983-1994) of doubt before I believed Him? Did you know that I embarked in 1999 to check if His revelations of the birth of Jesus on May 23 and His death on August 17 were correct? Did you know that had I proven Him wrong, I would have withdrawn and renounced my faith in Him? You may read about this in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled “From doubt to belief”.

Pennsylvania 6-5000

I am unable to read. Would it be possible for you to act this out with puppets and post it on "Utube"?

JimBenArm · 13th June 2012, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

Pennsylvania 6-5000

I am unable to read. Would it be possible for you to act this out with puppets and post it on "Utube"?

The Magnificent Seven
I can't get the yootwobee stuff here. Can you come to my office and do it in an interpretive dance?

Elizabeth I · 13th June 2012, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

Pennsylvania 6-5000

Plan IX from Outer Space

Sorry, I already used Pennsylvania 6-5000. You have to skip a turn.

Paul · 13th June 2012, 11:55 AM

21^st Century Schizoid Man

Interpretive dance you say....

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I AGREE

Steve · 13th June 2012, 11:58 AM

1953.10.28
Nothing to contribute. Just had this compulsion to post a number.

AdMan · 13th June 2012, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

1953.10.28
Nothing to contribute. Just had this compulsion to post a number.

Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope

Can't imagine why. Must be the Holy Spirit guiding your actions.

13th June 2012, 06:35 AM	#161
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,214	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader Thank you, Agatha, for your answers. If you apply for a refund, then do it now. There is no need to send your second son to work as a volunteer at the 2012 Olympic Games for there it will be cancelled anyway. The Games will not be pushed through according to the Holy Spirit we talk to. Do you believe this? Quite frankly, I don't believe a word of it. I'm not going to get a refund just yet, nor am I going to cancel my adult son's arrangements. If the Olympics and Paralympics don't happen, I'll come back here and admit I was wrong, but I've said this (or equivalent) to a fair few failed prophets here and I've never needed to admit to being wrong, since they've never been correct yet. Paul Bethke was convinced the World Cup Final in 2010 would be cancelled - it wasn't. Dani'El was convinced California was going to be destroyed and he'd be transported to Israel fairly recently - again, it didn't happen. Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader I am just passing on to you what He said. It is up to you to decide whether you will believe Him or not. I don't. Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader He gave many prophecies, including the yearly “Record of Life” or “Talaan ng Buhay”. He said in the 1979-10-19 prophecy, “The ambition and motivation for war will be perennial inducements among all races until such inducements are made manifest three years after 1979.” Three years after 1979 is 1982. Did we have wars in 1982? Have you heard of the Falkland War? Or the Israelis' invasion of Lebanon? Yes. There are wars somewhere in the world all the time, 1982 was not a special year in any way. Predicting a year without a conflict somewhere in the word would be slightly more interesting. Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader Would you like to know the coincidences in my life? I have written them in five parts. I could post them one a day. Don't trouble yourself, coincidences are not proof of anything except that coincidences happen. To everyone, all the time. Humans are very good at finding meanings and patterns in random events, and those suffering from certain psychiatric disorders are more prone to finding patterns where there are none. The only thing that sets this prophecy apart from a mountain of failed prophecies is the short time scale. As I write this now on 13th June at 14.31, there are 44 days, 7 hours and 29 minutes to go before the Olympics begin. If WWIII starts inside these 44 days, and the Olympics are cancelled, I'll apologise to you for my unbelief. I won't start believing in a God, and I could not worship the God of the Bible even if I believed in him. But I will concede that the prophecy, however it was made, was correct. However, if the Olympics proceed as planned, and WWIII does not start by the time they commence, will you apologise for your failed prophecy? Will you accept that the spirit you are listening to cannot be God, if it gets things wrong?
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Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 20,509	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader 20120613.2315 Thank you, Jack by the hedge, for being honest that you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit who I believe. Did you know that it took me eleven years (1983-1994) of doubt before I believed Him? Did you know that I embarked in 1999 to check if His revelations of the birth of Jesus on May 23 and His death on August 17 were correct? Did you know that had I proven Him wrong, I would have withdrawn and renounced my faith in Him? You may read about this in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled “From doubt to belief”. BEechwood 4-5789 Just in case.... Are you aware that when we say, "discuss... and paranormal", that we're actually a board full of skeptics, e.g. we ask for evidence for just about anything. "Feel it in your heart" or "Come to God" do not count as evidence (in case you're heading there next). In fact, many of us are outright agnostics and atheists. I mention this because we've had a number of true believers who came here after misinterpreting the banner to mean that this place is friendly to the claims of the paranormal. If you can offer evidence of your claims in some form other than "Open Yourself to God and You Will See", we might be able to discuss this "... in a friendly and lively way". If you cannot, you're going to continue to get a lot of cats toying with a mouse type responses (mine included).
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13th June 2012, 07:10 AM	#163
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 24,631	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader Originally Posted by Akhenaten Does Zombie Jesus (or do you) have a cunning plan in place which will help you to communicate this vital information to the seven billion people on Earth who don't speak Tagalog? [font=Verdana]20120613.2235 [font=Verdana]You can help by warning the people through the Internet about the impending calamitous war. 37½ Can you send me a list of the people who already know about it? It will save me a lot of time if I don't have to type their addresses into the cc box. Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader [font=Verdana]Were the people warned on World War II? Were the people warned of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on 1941-12-07? 146¾ No, the US Government decided it would cause less panic if they were warned the next day. Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader [font=Verdana]We should be thankful that the Holy Spirit is warning us of the coming disaster. ∞ Indeed. Do you have his address? I'll send some flowers or something.
	__________________ Life is mostly Froth and Bubble - Adam Lindsay Gordon The Australasian Skeptics Forum

13th June 2012, 07:13 AM	#164
Damien Evans Up The Irons Tagger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 25,270	10100101 This is fantastic.
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13th June 2012, 07:35 AM	#165
PeaceCrusader Muse Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 955	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz BEechwood 4-5789 Just in case.... Are you aware that when we say, "discuss... and paranormal", that we're actually a board full of skeptics, e.g. we ask for evidence for just about anything. "Feel it in your heart" or "Come to God" do not count as evidence (in case you're heading there next). In fact, many of us are outright agnostics and atheists. I mention this because we've had a number of true believers who came here after misinterpreting the banner to mean that this place is friendly to the claims of the paranormal. If you can offer evidence of your claims in some form other than "Open Yourself to God and You Will See", we might be able to discuss this "... in a friendly and lively way". If you cannot, you're going to continue to get a lot of cats toying with a mouse type responses (mine included). 20120614.0005 I came to this forum before to participate in the One Million Dollar Challenge. So I went to the Philippines in 2007 to ask the Holy Spirit if Ka Apaz (His platform) and I, with His help, would accept the challenge. He declined. And that was it. I went to the Philippines last month and talked to the Holy Spirit on 05-01 and 05-03. I would like to share to people in this forum what I heard and learned from Him about the 2012 Olympic Games and the calamitous war. I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I believe in. It is up to the people whether they will believe it or not. Anyway, as the English poet William Ernest Henley said in Invictus, “I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.”
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13th June 2012, 08:04 AM	#166
PeaceCrusader Muse Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 955	Originally Posted by Agatha Quite frankly, I don't believe a word of it. I'm not going to get a refund just yet, nor am I going to cancel my adult son's arrangements. If the Olympics and Paralympics don't happen, I'll come back here and admit I was wrong, but I've said this (or equivalent) to a fair few failed prophets here and I've never needed to admit to being wrong, since they've never been correct yet. Paul Bethke was convinced the World Cup Final in 2010 would be cancelled - it wasn't. Dani'El was convinced California was going to be destroyed and he'd be transported to Israel fairly recently - again, it didn't happen. I don't. Yes. There are wars somewhere in the world all the time, 1982 was not a special year in any way. Predicting a year without a conflict somewhere in the word would be slightly more interesting. Don't trouble yourself, coincidences are not proof of anything except that coincidences happen. To everyone, all the time. Humans are very good at finding meanings and patterns in random events, and those suffering from certain psychiatric disorders are more prone to finding patterns where there are none. The only thing that sets this prophecy apart from a mountain of failed prophecies is the short time scale. As I write this now on 13th June at 14.31, there are 44 days, 7 hours and 29 minutes to go before the Olympics begin. If WWIII starts inside these 44 days, and the Olympics are cancelled, I'll apologise to you for my unbelief. I won't start believing in a God, and I could not worship the God of the Bible even if I believed in him. But I will concede that the prophecy, however it was made, was correct. However, if the Olympics proceed as planned, and WWIII does not start by the time they commence, will you apologise for your failed prophecy? Will you accept that the spirit you are listening to cannot be God, if it gets things wrong? 20120614.0040 I am not forcing anyone including yourself, Agatha, to believe in what I believe in. I am just passing on what I heard and learned from who I believe is the Holy Spirit. I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God.
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13th June 2012, 08:07 AM	#167
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13th June 2012, 08:16 AM	#168
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,402	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader 20120614.0005 I would like to share to people in this forum what I heard and learned from Him about the 2012 Olympic Games and the calamitous war. I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I believe in. 6.626e-34 I may have missed something. What information have you shared with us regarding the 2012 Olympic games? You started with a title which asks a question (will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?) but did not make a prediction, and then you opened by asking another question (did we think history would repeat itself). So far you have made (as best I recall) 3 actual predictions; 1) China will invade the Phillippenes 2) Manila will be destroyed 3) A 3rd world war will kill 2/3 of humanity. Now we might infer from this that you mean the London Olympics will be abandoned because a Chinese invasion of the Phillippenes will precipitate WWIII. But strictly speaking, you have not said that these three events listed above will coincide, nor have you said when any of them will happen. Even if any of them eventually does happen, it might be thousands of years in the future. You have certainly not declared that any of them will happen before the London Olympics. So what exactly does this thread of yours have to do with its declared topic of the 2012 Olympics? <edit> Ah. I see you have now made an explicit declaration. Thank you. But will you please check that what you wrote is what you intended? 'If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails...'
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13th June 2012, 08:16 AM	#169
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,157	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader 20120614.0040 [font=Verdana]I am not forcing anyone including yourself, Agatha, to believe in what I believe in. I am just passing on what I heard and learned from who I believe is the Holy Spirit. Poland 1 - Russia 1 Peace, did the Holy Spirit tell you to post here? If not, what do you expect to accomplish? Do you honestly think anyone is going to read your posts and say "PeaceCrusader has opened my eyes to the Holy Spirit and I BELIEEEVE!! AMEN!!!" Let me give you a clue: it ain't gonna happen.
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13th June 2012, 08:29 AM	#170
rambaldi Thinker Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 163	Originally Posted by Agatha 42. Nope. Neither believe in it or worship it. Even if one believes in the Holy Spirit, why should anyone believe that HE/SHE/IT is talking to PC?
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13th June 2012, 08:34 AM	#171
philkensebben Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,831	Why does God hate Usain Bolt?

13th June 2012, 08:38 AM	#172
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,967	One is the loneliest number. He hates him because he's not Filipino. Duh.
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13th June 2012, 08:39 AM	#173
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,402	Originally Posted by philkensebben Why does God hate Usain Bolt? Jealousy? I'm sure I read He was a jealous God.

13th June 2012, 08:41 AM	#174
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,967	Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge Jealousy? I'm sure I read He was a jealous God. So he's green, then. God is Green Lantern?
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13th June 2012, 08:41 AM	#175
AdMan Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,157	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader 20120614.0040[/font] I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God. 25 or 6 to 4 Why didn't you brand him as a false prophet when his prediction that your calendar would be implemented globally didn't happen?
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13th June 2012, 08:41 AM	#176
Ocelot Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 3,016	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. That'd be dashed reasonable of you sir. Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God. May?
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13th June 2012, 08:44 AM	#177
philkensebben Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,831	Originally Posted by JimBenArm So he's green, then. God is Green Lantern? Kurt Cobain was right? God is actually gay?

13th June 2012, 08:46 AM	#178
rambaldi Thinker Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 163	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I assume the above should be "if the Olympics do proceed as planned" Just wanted to make sure this does not get lost...
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13th June 2012, 08:46 AM	#179
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,967	Westport 1- 7100 Actually, I take back God being Green Lantern. He's more like The Incredible Hulk. "Hulk mad! Hulk smash!"
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13th June 2012, 08:50 AM	#180
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,402	Originally Posted by JimBenArm Westport 1- 7100 Actually, I take back God being Green Lantern. He's more like The Incredible Hulk. "Hulk mad! Hulk smash!" Whitehall 1212 Or the Jolly Green Giant. Jolly Green Giant Psychopath.

13th June 2012, 09:02 AM	#181
Captain_Swoop Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3,906	5705 (no reply) I think the OP should be applauded for actualy making predictions that are both explict andf with deadlines. Usualy we just get some vague waffle that something might happen sometime.

13th June 2012, 09:21 AM	#182
maggot9779 Thinker Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 132	People that believe they have a direct line to some god are pretty scary. You never know what they could do in the name of that god.
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13th June 2012, 09:30 AM	#183
Paul Master Poster Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,972	2 4 6 8 motorway Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader The Holy Spirit revealed 19 prophecies on 1979-10-19 I could have sworn I just said that. Quote: I have written three. I still have to write the rest. So much to do and I am in a hurry for I am old already What you have actually done is write 19 prophesies and provided empty links to "evidences or proofs I have gathered proving the prophecy's fulfillment" for 3 of them. All that work in only 33 years. Quote: One of the 19 prophecies states, “Heaven will make certain significant revelations which, however, will escape peoples’ notice due to their engrossment in self-centered activities.” Not a very impressive heaven is it. Revelations that are so significant people are too busy doing anything else to take any notice. Quote: Is His prophecy regarding the coming Olympic Games in London not significant? No. It is not. Quote: And yet people are ignoring His warnings and doing crazy things (“nagbabaliw-baliwan”), and assuming that they do not hear it (“nagbibingi-bingihan”) or not see it (“nagbubulag-bulagan”). That's because it's nonsense, and not even interesting or colourful nonsense like some of the other nutters out there. Quote: The Holy Spirit said that two-thirds of mankind will die in the coming reduction of people in the world. He says a lot of things, like "Nameless diseases will spread the cause of which will not be known, and such diseases will exact a heavy toll of human beings and work animals" and "Worms of all kinds will plague crops and ricefields to destruction; all vegetation will be affected" Quote: In Noah’s time, all except Noah and his family died. No they didn't. Quote: He knows who will survive and those who will die. Will you survive, Paul, or will you die? Really he knows the names of 4.697 billion people? Quote: I was wrong that the Aristean Calendar was not implemented by 2011, but I firmly believe that it will eventually become the official standard primary calendar of the world. What, in your long history of being completely wrong, leads you to this conclusion?
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13th June 2012, 09:31 AM	#184
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,214	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader am not forcing anyone including yourself, Agatha, to believe in what I believe in. I am just passing on what I heard and learned from who I believe is the Holy Spirit. I learned about this prophecy of the cancellation of the 2012 Olympic Games only last month when I went to the Philippines. “If the Olympics does not proceed as planned and WWIII does not start by the time they commenced,” then the prophecy fails and I will apologize to you and the others. I may withdraw my belief in Him and brand Him a false prophet. Prophecy differentiates the true God from the false gods. If the prophecy fails, then He must be a false god, an impostor. I say, if you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God. 10538 Overture It would take more than one fulfilled prophecy to get me to believe in the sort of god that is referenced in the Bible. Mind you, just one fulfilled prophecy would be a good start, we've been discussing the abject failure of Biblical prophecy in another thread and so far, the believers have come up empty of fulfilled prophecy except those which have been post-dicted. I assume you mean that If the Olympics do go ahead as planned AND WWIII does not commence before 27 July 2012 then you will consider this a failed, or false, prophecy.
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13th June 2012, 09:34 AM	#185
Professor Yaffle Butterbeans and Breadcrumbs Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Emily's shop Posts: 15,326	Why does the Holy Spirit lie to you, PeaceCrusader?
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13th June 2012, 09:34 AM	#186
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,967	404 - File Not Found I'm sure it will be a simple misunderstanding, and God actually meant the Winter Olympics.
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13th June 2012, 09:38 AM	#187
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,402	Originally Posted by Agatha 10538 Overture ...I assume you mean that If the Olympics do go ahead as planned... Northside 777 I wouldn't be at all surprised if that got used as an excuse later: "No, no, the Holy Spirit said 'If the Olympics does not proceed as planned'...". It's teh miracle of teh Holy Typo.

13th June 2012, 09:40 AM	#188
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,402	Originally Posted by Professor Yaffle Why does the Holy Spirit lie to you, PeaceCrusader? It's his punishment for trying to use Holy Revelation to win a million bucks.

13th June 2012, 10:06 AM	#189
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader The God that I am referring to is the true God for not all gods that people worship is the true God. There is only one true God and the others are false gods. Be able to discern the true God from the false gods. That's what everyone says. You'll need to do better. Originally Posted by rambaldi Couldn't that God have chosen someone with a little less exotic language? PeaceCrusader's god is apparently not multilingual. I would have expected a bit more from the "one, true God".
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13th June 2012, 10:11 AM	#190
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13th June 2012, 10:47 AM	#191
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,214	Originally Posted by JimBenArm 404 - File Not Found I'm sure it will be a simple misunderstanding, and God actually meant the Winter Olympics. 99 red balloons. Or the Rio de Janeiro Olympics in 2016, or the PyeongChang Winter Olympics in 2018.... Goalpost moving seems to be the favourite sport of Prophets these days.
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13th June 2012, 10:52 AM	#192
Damien Evans Up The Irons Tagger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 25,270	666 The Number Of The Beast, 666 The One For You And Me Any bets on how he'll wiggle out of it when it doesn't happen?
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13th June 2012, 10:53 AM	#193
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13th June 2012, 11:03 AM	#194
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,214	Paul Hardcastle's 19 Paul (the poster, not Hardcastle afaik) ninjad me with 2 4 6 8 motorway.
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13th June 2012, 11:28 AM	#195
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader 20120613.2315 Thank you, Jack by the hedge, for being honest that you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit who I believe. Did you know that it took me eleven years (1983-1994) of doubt before I believed Him? Did you know that I embarked in 1999 to check if His revelations of the birth of Jesus on May 23 and His death on August 17 were correct? Did you know that had I proven Him wrong, I would have withdrawn and renounced my faith in Him? You may read about this in http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled “From doubt to belief”. Pennsylvania 6-5000 I am unable to read. Would it be possible for you to act this out with puppets and post it on "Utube"?
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