Arecibo space message, crop circle answer?

calwaterbear · 21st June 2012, 09:06 PM

Ok so one of the bigfooters around here, pointed me to this. i was aware of the Binary message we sent out from arecibo in 1974. What i was not aware of is the fact that some are claiming that the message was answered, in the form of a crop circle in 1991 (I think I'm remembering that correctly)

Pretty good discription of his woo explanation, Pretty Lame, and he dismissed the very ervidence of hoax - even as he points it out

http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/arecibo.html

I did a quick search and couldn't find anything on this here. maybe it was old news by the time this forum popped up, but anyonwe know anything about this? anyone ever stand up and take responsibnility for hoaxing this?

CWB

Multivac · 22nd June 2012, 01:54 AM

Interesting hoax, thanks.

Maybe I'm missing something, but why would aliens who had received a radio signal from Arecibo, reply with crop circles in Hampshire? Wouldn't they have replied with a message sent by radio?

My guess is that a group of physics students, who know about the original signal from Arecibo, decided to have a laugh by faking a reply.

Marduk · 22nd June 2012, 03:02 AM

Hey I know that place, ooohh wooo
yanno there's a radioastronomical observatory adjacent to the crop circle site,

Originally Posted by Multivac

My guess is that a group of physics students, who know about the original signal from Arecibo, decided to have a laugh by faking a reply.

Chilbolton observatory is the largest radiotelescope in the UK, maybe the aliens were aiming at that, perhaps you could ask one of the many radioastronomy personnel or their students that frequent the area, if they know any of these mystery physics students of yours

This following picture shows the students I'm talking about really exist in the real world, here is a picture of them standing outside the radiotelescope, actually in the crop circle itself, on the morning that the crop circle was first reported, by them to the press, it was awfully lucky that they were there really, they had been staying nearby the previous night, like at the observatory coincidentally, where they are studying radioastronomy stuff,

I have at this time not ascertained if these radioastronomy people who were involved in the discovery knew anything about "the original signal from Arecibo"
BUT
I think I have successfully proven that your mystery physics students do not answer any of the questions, one of the things I know about this which is truly unexplainable is that the observatory has cctv cameras which cover the area, yet when they were examined they were found to be mysteriously wiped clean
woooohhhhh

hehe

Marduk · 22nd June 2012, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by calwaterbear

I did a quick search and couldn't find anything on this here.

heres a recent thread
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=238360

Aepervius · 22nd June 2012, 04:11 AM

Oh, A deja vu.

(black cat meow and jump away).

The matrix must have glitch-ed.

edd · 22nd June 2012, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Marduk

Hey I know that place, ooohh wooo
yanno there's a radioastronomical observatory adjacent to the crop circle site,

Chilbolton observatory is the largest radiotelescope in the UK, maybe the aliens were aiming at that, perhaps you could ask one of the many radioastronomy personnel or their students that frequent the area, if they know any of these mystery physics students of yours

I don't believe that in 2001 Chilbolton was working in radioastronomy - it was pretty much purely meteorological I think. Also, the largest radiotelescope at the time would have been the Lovell telescope at Jodrell Bank (assuming you aren't linking individual telescopes into an array - in which case it would be MERLIN, which includes telescopes at Jodrell Bank but not Chilbolton).

Recently Chilbolton began hosting a LOFAR station (which I'm proud to say I helped do some manual labour building). LOFAR is properly huge, but spreads across Europe, mostly being in the Netherlands. The Chilbolton station is in total area (combining high and low band arrays) larger than the Lovell, but each individual part of the array is very small.

The big dish in the picture in that thread is CAMRa, a meteorological radar and not a telescope.

Ladewig · 22nd June 2012, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by edd

I don't believe that in 2001 Chilbolton was working in radioastronomy - it was pretty much purely meteorological I think. Also, the largest radiotelescope at the time would have been the Lovell telescope at Jodrell Bank

Yes, but the Lovell radio telescope is not surrounded by circlable crops.

Beerina · 22nd June 2012, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Yes, but the Lovell radio telescope is not surrounded by circlable crops.

Well, couldn't the aliens have laser-beamed it into the rocks?

sophia8 · 22nd June 2012, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by edd

I don't believe that in 2001 Chilbolton was working in radioastronomy - it was pretty much purely meteorological I think.

The press seemed to think it was a radio telescope when it opened in 1967.

LTC8K6 · 22nd June 2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by sophia8

The press seemed to think it was a radio telescope when it opened in 1967.

Yeah, but what do they know...

edd · 22nd June 2012, 08:36 AM

I think the big dish at Chilbolton started off that way but got repurposed in the 70s or 80s.

godless dave · 22nd June 2012, 08:56 AM

So there are aliens hanging out less than 17 light years away, they have the technology to travel in space undetected, but the only way they can think of to reply to a message is by drawing a crop circle?

Gord_in_Toronto · 22nd June 2012, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by godless dave

So there are aliens hanging out less than 17 light years away, they have the technology to travel in space undetected, but the only way they can think of to reply to a message is by drawing a crop circle?

And I find so absolutely, awesomely, amazing that some folks here on this Forum have a problem with that.

Ladewig · 22nd June 2012, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Well, couldn't the aliens have laser-beamed it into the rocks?

But is there any evidence to show that (hipster) aliens who travel interstellar distances without being detected actually have lasers? Hmmm?

ExMinister · 22nd June 2012, 03:57 PM

Well seeing as how the aliens are limited to communicating through New Agers and not to scientists, maybe it's not so hard to understand why they had to resort to crop circles.

Marduk · 23rd June 2012, 04:18 AM

Well, I for one welcome our new, crop circle building, non laser using, interstellar travelling, hampshire visiting, radiotelescope utilising, New age, hipster, cctv wiping, Alien overlords

I hope they bring back Elvis

Stray Cat · 23rd June 2012, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

But is there any evidence to show that (hipster) aliens who travel interstellar distances without being detected actually have lasers? Hmmm?

Dur.... yeah.... of course... the crop circles are evidence.

Gawdzilla · 23rd June 2012, 05:53 AM

"We travel interstellar space.
We use technology you can't distinguish from magic.
We are centuries, if not more, beyond you in every way.
We leave messages by bending plants. Ambiguous messages."

Ladewig · 23rd June 2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Gawdzilla

"We travel interstellar space.
We use technology you can't distinguish from magic.
We are centuries, if not more, beyond you in every way.
We leave messages by bending plants. Ambiguous messages."

I can almost believe that a society so far advanced beyond us might use bending plants to communicate with very primitive societies. But why not put the circles on Buckingham Palace's lawn or the White House's lawn? Or make one ten miles across in a few seconds.

Gawdzilla · 23rd June 2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

I can almost believe that a society so far advanced beyond us might use bending plants to communicate with very primitive societies. But why not put the circles on Buckingham Palace's lawn or the White House's lawn? Or make one ten miles across in a few seconds.

Oh, that's easy. They do it for the same reason they only directly contact drunken Mississippi rednecks.

See? Cleared that up for ya.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 25th June 2012, 05:02 PM

Perhaps they think that wheat is the intelligent species on Earth.

~~ Paul

100 · 25th June 2012, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos

Perhaps they think that wheat is the intelligent species on Earth.

~~ Paul

They're declaring war then?

Malfie Henpox · 25th June 2012, 10:00 PM

I would suggest that the aliens didn't visit earth, they just shot their crop sculpting particle accelerator machine from their own planet. Very worrying that they have such technology. What if they decided to ruffle all of our farmlands?

More than that though, the fact that they are replying to a miss print of the Aricibo message is proof positive that they are in possession of sufficient technology to read our books from afar. They're watching us.

sphenisc · 26th June 2012, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by sophia8

The press seemed to think it was a radio telescope when it opened in 1967.

That's pre-Murdoch right? There's nothing to prove they hacked into conversations with alien civilisations?

Lamuella · 26th June 2012, 02:42 AM

fundamentally I've still yet to see a crop circle that couldn't have been formed by pranksters with boards and too much time on their hands.

Multivac · 26th June 2012, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by Marduk

Hey I know that place, ooohh wooo
yanno there's a radioastronomical observatory adjacent to the crop circle site,

Chilbolton observatory is the largest radiotelescope in the UK, maybe the aliens were aiming at that, perhaps you could ask one of the many radioastronomy personnel or their students that frequent the area, if they know any of these mystery physics students of yours

Fair enough. Would you accept astronomy, radio-astronomy or astrophysics students?

Originally Posted by Marduk

This following picture shows the students I'm talking about really exist in the real world, here is a picture of them standing outside the radiotelescope, actually in the crop circle itself, on the morning that the crop circle was first reported, by them to the press, it was awfully lucky that they were there really, they had been staying nearby the previous night, like at the observatory coincidentally, where they are studying radioastronomy stuff,
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...arduk/crop.jpg
I have at this time not ascertained if these radioastronomy people who were involved in the discovery knew anything about "the original signal from Arecibo"

I would think it is quite likely that radio astronomers in the UK would have heard of the Arecibo message sent in 1974 during a ceremony to celebrate remodeling of the radio telescope. It wasn't exactly a secret.

Originally Posted by Marduk

BUT
I think I have successfully proven that your mystery physics students do not answer any of the questions, one of the things I know about this which is truly unexplainable is that the observatory has cctv cameras which cover the area, yet when they were examined they were found to be mysteriously wiped clean
woooohhhhh

hehe

Students rarely answer questions, unless it involves beer or sex.

21st June 2012, 09:06 PM	#1
calwaterbear Thinker Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 232	Arecibo space message, crop circle answer? Ok so one of the bigfooters around here, pointed me to this. i was aware of the Binary message we sent out from arecibo in 1974. What i was not aware of is the fact that some are claiming that the message was answered, in the form of a crop circle in 1991 (I think I'm remembering that correctly) Pretty good discription of his woo explanation, Pretty Lame, and he dismissed the very ervidence of hoax - even as he points it out http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/arecibo.html I did a quick search and couldn't find anything on this here. maybe it was old news by the time this forum popped up, but anyonwe know anything about this? anyone ever stand up and take responsibnility for hoaxing this? CWB
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22nd June 2012, 03:02 AM	#3
Marduk Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Posts: 10,242	Hey I know that place, ooohh wooo yanno there's a radioastronomical observatory adjacent to the crop circle site, Originally Posted by Multivac My guess is that a group of physics students, who know about the original signal from Arecibo, decided to have a laugh by faking a reply. Chilbolton observatory is the largest radiotelescope in the UK, maybe the aliens were aiming at that, perhaps you could ask one of the many radioastronomy personnel or their students that frequent the area, if they know any of these mystery physics students of yours This following picture shows the students I'm talking about really exist in the real world, here is a picture of them standing outside the radiotelescope, actually in the crop circle itself, on the morning that the crop circle was first reported, by them to the press, it was awfully lucky that they were there really, they had been staying nearby the previous night, like at the observatory coincidentally, where they are studying radioastronomy stuff, I have at this time not ascertained if these radioastronomy people who were involved in the discovery knew anything about "the original signal from Arecibo" BUT I think I have successfully proven that your mystery physics students do not answer any of the questions, one of the things I know about this which is truly unexplainable is that the observatory has cctv cameras which cover the area, yet when they were examined they were found to be mysteriously wiped clean woooohhhhh hehe
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edd Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,560	Originally Posted by Marduk Hey I know that place, ooohh wooo yanno there's a radioastronomical observatory adjacent to the crop circle site, Chilbolton observatory is the largest radiotelescope in the UK, maybe the aliens were aiming at that, perhaps you could ask one of the many radioastronomy personnel or their students that frequent the area, if they know any of these mystery physics students of yours I don't believe that in 2001 Chilbolton was working in radioastronomy - it was pretty much purely meteorological I think. Also, the largest radiotelescope at the time would have been the Lovell telescope at Jodrell Bank (assuming you aren't linking individual telescopes into an array - in which case it would be MERLIN, which includes telescopes at Jodrell Bank but not Chilbolton). Recently Chilbolton began hosting a LOFAR station (which I'm proud to say I helped do some manual labour building). LOFAR is properly huge, but spreads across Europe, mostly being in the Netherlands. The Chilbolton station is in total area (combining high and low band arrays) larger than the Lovell, but each individual part of the array is very small. The big dish in the picture in that thread is CAMRa, a meteorological radar and not a telescope.
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22nd June 2012, 05:47 AM	#7
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,820	Originally Posted by edd I don't believe that in 2001 Chilbolton was working in radioastronomy - it was pretty much purely meteorological I think. Also, the largest radiotelescope at the time would have been the Lovell telescope at Jodrell Bank Yes, but the Lovell radio telescope is not surrounded by circlable crops.
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22nd June 2012, 01:54 AM	#2
Multivac Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,930	Interesting hoax, thanks. Maybe I'm missing something, but why would aliens who had received a radio signal from Arecibo, reply with crop circles in Hampshire? Wouldn't they have replied with a message sent by radio? My guess is that a group of physics students, who know about the original signal from Arecibo, decided to have a laugh by faking a reply.

22nd June 2012, 03:18 AM	#4
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edd Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,560	I think the big dish at Chilbolton started off that way but got repurposed in the 70s or 80s.
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Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,820	Originally Posted by Beerina Well, couldn't the aliens have laser-beamed it into the rocks? But is there any evidence to show that (hipster) aliens who travel interstellar distances without being detected actually have lasers? Hmmm?
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ExMinister RSL Acolyte Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,749	Well seeing as how the aliens are limited to communicating through New Agers and not to scientists, maybe it's not so hard to understand why they had to resort to crop circles.
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25th June 2012, 10:00 PM	#23
Malfie Henpox Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,812	I would suggest that the aliens didn't visit earth, they just shot their crop sculpting particle accelerator machine from their own planet. Very worrying that they have such technology. What if they decided to ruffle all of our farmlands? More than that though, the fact that they are replying to a miss print of the Aricibo message is proof positive that they are in possession of sufficient technology to read our books from afar. They're watching us.

26th June 2012, 12:58 AM	#24
sphenisc Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,750	Originally Posted by sophia8 The press seemed to think it was a radio telescope when it opened in 1967. That's pre-Murdoch right? There's nothing to prove they hacked into conversations with alien civilisations?
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26th June 2012, 02:42 AM	#25
Lamuella Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,480	fundamentally I've still yet to see a crop circle that couldn't have been formed by pranksters with boards and too much time on their hands.
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26th June 2012, 04:17 AM	#26
Multivac Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,930	Originally Posted by Marduk Hey I know that place, ooohh wooo yanno there's a radioastronomical observatory adjacent to the crop circle site, Chilbolton observatory is the largest radiotelescope in the UK, maybe the aliens were aiming at that, perhaps you could ask one of the many radioastronomy personnel or their students that frequent the area, if they know any of these mystery physics students of yours Fair enough. Would you accept astronomy, radio-astronomy or astrophysics students? Originally Posted by Marduk This following picture shows the students I'm talking about really exist in the real world, here is a picture of them standing outside the radiotelescope, actually in the crop circle itself, on the morning that the crop circle was first reported, by them to the press, it was awfully lucky that they were there really, they had been staying nearby the previous night, like at the observatory coincidentally, where they are studying radioastronomy stuff, http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...arduk/crop.jpg I have at this time not ascertained if these radioastronomy people who were involved in the discovery knew anything about "the original signal from Arecibo" I would think it is quite likely that radio astronomers in the UK would have heard of the Arecibo message sent in 1974 during a ceremony to celebrate remodeling of the radio telescope. It wasn't exactly a secret. Originally Posted by Marduk BUT I think I have successfully proven that your mystery physics students do not answer any of the questions, one of the things I know about this which is truly unexplainable is that the observatory has cctv cameras which cover the area, yet when they were examined they were found to be mysteriously wiped clean woooohhhhh hehe Students rarely answer questions, unless it involves beer or sex.