Claims of There Being No Evidence - Page 13

OntarioSquatch · 10th July 2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

Maybe sasquatches are so dad-gum delicious that the body never makes it to the authorities intact.

The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues?

It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward.

godless dave · 10th July 2012, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again.

Are those stories credible?

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic.

Citation, please.

Drewbot · 10th July 2012, 11:29 AM

Unexplained disappearances occur, since when does the NPS keep track of kidnappings? That would be the FBI if I remember correctly. The NPS does keep track of people who have gone missing, that way when they find their body washed up under one of the falls at Yellowstone 5 months later, they can identify them by what they were wearing.

PS Parnassus I bought that Death at Yellowstone book

OntarioSquatch · 10th July 2012, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by godless dave

Are those stories credible?

Citation, please.

I don't know, but when people hit a moose or a bear on the road, they contact either the police or DNR. The body would inevitably end up with the government and from there they would decide where to go with it.

Yosemite National Park and Crater Lake National Park are at the top of the list for disappearances. It's something we don't see in the news. Guys, google "yosemite missing people" and you'll get literally countless cases of people who fall off a cliff, that go down a waterfall, get their bodies stuffed in crevices ect. The same thing happens all over the Country. Places like Washington state and Vancouver Island are notorious for these types of cases.

Drewbot · 10th July 2012, 11:49 AM

You said KIDNAPPINGS up above, not disappearances, here is the quote:

Originally Posted by Ontariosquatch

Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic

Now you conveniently talk about people falling off cliffs, whereas above you were saying 'kidnappings happen all the time'

I am beginning to believe you are not a Bigfooter, just a BigfooTroller.

OntarioSquatch · 10th July 2012, 11:50 AM

Many are confirmed as kidnappings. There are lots of cases. I'm not trolling you lol.

GT/CS · 10th July 2012, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

You said KIDNAPPINGS up above, not disappearances, here is the quote:

Now you conveniently talk about people falling off cliffs, whereas above you were saying 'kidnappings happen all the time'

I am beginning to believe you are not a Bigfooter, just a BigfooTroller.

'Ignore' is looking pretty good, isn't it?

Drewbot · 10th July 2012, 12:01 PM

Are you trying to promote David Paulides' book?

AlaskaBushPilot · 10th July 2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

Of course the Native Americans were afraid to hunt Bigfoot, that is why they never killed any...

The art of playing "cowardly and stupid" is in seeing how far you can push the act. Does this person know that people lived alongside gorillas for thousands of years in Africa, killing them for meat with primitive tools? Of course. This person also knows gorillas are smart enough to learn American Sign Language and use logic.

A couple thousand years ago they'd stick lions, tigers, gorillas - all manner of wild beast - into the Coliseum with a gladiator. They had an extensive underground network of tunnels and lifts so an 800 lb tiger could be made to pop up out of nowhere. You could watch a guy with a sword take him on.

That's why I don't buy the posturing. Because it is playing dumb and cowardly at such a scale so far removed from reality that it can't be true on the face of it.

Chain-yanking.

LTC8K6 · 10th July 2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

Is this a comedy act?

I can see into the future...

AlaskaBushPilot · 10th July 2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

'Ignore' is looking pretty good, isn't it?

Beat you to it.

The kidnappings in national forests - hey, there's some good ones. How 'bout that Champion ski/shooter athlete who was kidnapped for breeding with the father/son combo. I think she was jogging and they took her at gunpoint. They killed one of her would-be rescuers and shot her by accident when she was tied up to a tree.

If you look into some of the serial killer kidnappings, you have the likes of Charles Ng and his partner. They built a room to keep them in and tortured/raped/filmed it all. Or that guy in Australia. He just robbed 'em and shot them. Who was the girl seeing the congressman that disappeared and was found in the park finally - raped and killed...

Here again, so much of real life in the parks/forests is more dramatic, ghastly, scary than bigfoot.

The Shrike · 10th July 2012, 01:50 PM

^And it's publicized, not kept quiet. I remember doing field in a national park many years ago in which a couple of female campers had been stabbed and killed. It was all over the news and there were alerts at the park headquarters.

Ontario, I'm not sure why you accept these nonsense stories uncritically. This is why several folks here have concluded that you must be trolling. It's difficult for us to believe that a living human could be as gullible as you seem to be. Here's a hint: the next time you encounter some "factoid" like the number of kidnappings in a national park, follow to the source and confirm that such an event happened at all.

Garrison · 10th July 2012, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

Many are confirmed as kidnappings. There are lots of cases. I'm not trolling you lol.

Well great then you won't have any trouble citing one will you?

Wolrab · 10th July 2012, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

I don't know, but when people hit a moose or a bear on the road, they contact either the police or DNR. The body would inevitably end up with the government and from there they would decide where to go with it.

Yosemite National Park and Crater Lake National Park are at the top of the list for disappearances. It's something we don't see in the news. Guys, google "yosemite missing people" and you'll get literally countless cases of people who fall off a cliff, that go down a waterfall, get their bodies stuffed in crevices ect. The same thing happens all over the Country. Places like Washington state and Vancouver Island are notorious for these types of cases.

Quote:

I don't think sneaking up on Bigfoot would be an easy task.

Given the body structure seen in the PGF, eye-witness drawings, reported behaviour and analyzed DNA, I would say they're humans and not gorillas (if they exist, of course). There's no proof for any of this, but it might change soon. Today 05:02 PM

Fixed both posts for you.

RayG · 10th July 2012, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

I don't think sneaking up on Bigfoot would be an easy task.

Yet P&G had no trouble filming one? I never got the impression they were 'sneaking' either.

Gimlin should have taken the head shot. BOOM! Game over.

RayG

GeeMack · 10th July 2012, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues?

It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward.

That's what we call a paranoid conspiracy theory. And it's also a dishonest argument. It's the same kind of stupid nonsense the UFOlien believers try to pull when they say all the blacked out stuff in the documents is the proof of their claims. It's blacked out. It's nothing! You're using the lack of evidence to support your belief. In addition you're making excuses about why there is no evidence, and adding that to your argument as if more and more nonsense will eventually make sense.

Biscuit · 10th July 2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

Many are confirmed as kidnappings. There are lots of cases. I'm not trolling you lol.

If bodies are "taken away by the government never to be heard rom again" then who is confirming them as kidnappings?

This might actually be dumber then the scared hunters story so I am all ears.

AttorneyTom · 10th July 2012, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

If bodies are "taken away by the government never to be heard rom again" then who is confirming them as kidnappings?

This might actually be dumber then the scared hunters story so I am all ears.

When do we say around here that a Thread "has jumped the shark"?

OntarioSquatch · 10th July 2012, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by GeeMack

That's what we call a paranoid conspiracy theory. And it's also a dishonest argument. It's the same kind of stupid nonsense the UFOlien believers try to pull when they say all the blacked out stuff in the documents is the proof of their claims.

That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation.

When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

bruto · 10th July 2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation.

When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

It may be a kidnaping by someone but it is pretty hard to suggest that such a case adds to the numbers of secret government operations and disappeared bodies that nobody is supposed to know about.

TheGoldcountry · 10th July 2012, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation.

When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

No, it's a slap in the face to use such tragedies to promote your conspiracy theories, and further your own agenda, just like a psychic who uses abductions to get media attention. Stop distorting what others have said and start examining your own motives.

River · 10th July 2012, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues?

It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward.

Honest guys, there is evidence, I just cant post it becauz the dog stole my homework, errr I lost it in the wash. Honest, this whole thread wasnt a big troll attempt. They's real. I's seen em.

Meanwhile... Requests for ANY "evidence of bigfoot" have been either ignored, or nonsense. There is no "evidence of bigfoot". There is only evidence of imaginations, and wishful thinking, confirmation bias and sometimes internet trolling. Like this entire thread you started.

Can you post one piece of "bigfoot evidence" please to substantiate your claims? A specific piece please, that actually exists.

captain koolaid · 10th July 2012, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

That's the thing though. The aren't gorillas. They can sneak up on us without us ever knowing...

You can't see the eyes of the demon, until him come callin'.

GeeMack · 11th July 2012, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

Originally Posted by GeeMack

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues?

It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward.

That's what we call a paranoid conspiracy theory. And it's also a dishonest argument. It's the same kind of stupid nonsense the UFOlien believers try to pull when they say all the blacked out stuff in the documents is the proof of their claims.

That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation.

When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

You're presenting a paranoid conspiracy theory. You go tell the parents of a missing 2 year old that some department of natural resources is keeping secrets about Bigfoot tromping around in the woods. You tell them that unexplained kidnappings are happening which the National Park Service doesn't want people to know about. You tell those parents of that missing 2 year old that some official agency claims to have no records of mysterious kidnappings and somehow that might be related to their missing child.

Do you even stop to read what you write before you hit the "Submit Reply" button? Your reply is a slap in the face to anyone who has ever had a loved one go missing in the woods and a slap in the face to every agency and park service that oversees the natural resources. Your argument is, by definition, a conspiracy theory. No intelligent person applying even a whit of objective consideration would find your position rational. Quite simply, you've jumped off the deep end. Your claims are not sane.

Biscuit · 11th July 2012, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation.

I was really hoping the underlined bit would be a link to some evidence. Once again this thread disappoints.

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

What are talking about? Is this an actual thing that happened or did you make this up as a hypothetical?

Biscuit · 11th July 2012, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by AttorneyTom

When do we say around here that a Thread "has jumped the shark"?

I think you can go back to "bigfoot steak" for that.

At this point its just watching a train wreck.

LTC8K6 · 11th July 2012, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation.

When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

How did the toddler escape from sasquatch?

Voodoosix · 11th July 2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

How did the toddler escape from sasquatch?

ninja smoke bomb?

Drewbot · 11th July 2012, 11:31 AM

Actually, the toddler was being used by a Bigfoot hunting group, Recording of the baby didn't work, so they borrowed the kid, and left him out overnight hoping to bring in 'Squatches'

Monza · 11th July 2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

I think you can go back to "bigfoot steak" for that.

At this point its just watching a train wreck.

I think you may have coined a new term, as in....

"My crazy uncle said he had proof of an alien abduction, but it just turned out to be a bigfoot steak."

or

"Robert Prey's evidence of a grassy knoll shooter is nothing more than bigfoot steak."

rockinkt · 11th July 2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch

<snip>
When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

OntarioSquatch...You use a lot of information from people that we know nothing about. For example, that story is one that David Paulides talks about a lot and uses in his book.
Since you obviously believe these people without reservation, perhaps you can tell us about Mr. David Paulides; specifically, his work history and academic qualifications (if any) and why you would believe anything he tells you.

Volsquatch · 11th July 2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by river

honest guys, there is evidence, i just cant post it becauz the dog stole my homework, errr i lost it in the wash. honest, this whole thread wasnt a big troll attempt. They's real. I's seen em.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/.../trollface.png

meanwhile... Requests for any "evidence of bigfoot" have been either ignored, or nonsense. There is no "evidence of bigfoot". There is only evidence of imaginations, and wishful thinking, confirmation bias and sometimes internet trolling. Like this entire thread you started.

Can you post one piece of "bigfoot evidence" please to substantiate your claims? A specific piece please, that actually exists.

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Biscuit · 11th July 2012, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Monza

I think you may have coined a new term, as in....

"My crazy uncle said he had proof of an alien abduction, but it just turned out to be a bigfoot steak."

or

"Robert Prey's evidence of a grassy knoll shooter is nothing more than bigfoot steak."

I love it!

I have never coined a phrase before so I really hope this one sticks cause its the last item on my bucket list.

"A nigerian prince promised me 3,000,000 U.S. dollars (three million) but all I got was a bigfoot steak."

Cainkane1 · 11th July 2012, 05:53 PM

Two big foots have been shot? Wheres the rest of the animal? Why didn't he cut of a hand or something?

bruto · 11th July 2012, 06:20 PM

Those clever bigfeet kidnaped the boy for their own nefarious ends and then moved the body a couple of miles so that it would look like a botched government job. Or wait, the government disappeared the kid as part of their known policy of kidnaping people and making them disappear without a trace and then they transported the body a couple of miles so that we would....think it was clever bigfeet. Well, I dunno, but there must be a conspiracy somewhere.

Biscuit · 11th July 2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Cainkane1

Two big foots have been shot? Wheres the rest of the animal? Why didn't he cut of a hand or something?

Because after having shot one bigfoot and searching for it for an hour or more they shot a second bigfoot and instantly decided someone had heard the second shot and they would be in trouble for shooting bigfoot because they only had deer and bear tags. Then they moved the second body and partially buried it without taking a trophy. This is in spite of the stated fact that the second one was shot for the sole reason of recovering a trophy because no one would believe they shot the first one. Duh!

Its 'The Dumbest Story Ever Told'^TM

The Dark Lord · 11th July 2012, 06:57 PM

I once shot a Bigfoot. But, unfortunately, it rolled off a cliff. I went to the bottom and the body was nowhere to be found!

AttorneyTom · 11th July 2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by The Dark Lord

I once shot a Bigfoot. But, unfortunately, it rolled off a cliff. I went to the bottom and the body was nowhere to be found!

Well DL that is unfortunate.. very unfortunate. Indeed it was the bounce that caused that to occur. Many have had that happen if it is any consolation ?

Mike! · 11th July 2012, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit

Because after having shot one bigfoot and searching for it for an hour or more they shot a second bigfoot and instantly decided someone had heard the second shot and they would be in trouble for shooting bigfoot because they only had deer and bear tags. Then they moved the second body and partially buried it without taking a trophy. This is in spite of the stated fact that the second one was shot for the sole reason of recovering a trophy because no one would believe they shot the first one. Duh!

Its 'The Dumbest Story Ever Told'^TM

You know, now that you've written that out like you have, I see that these guys with guns have stumbled onto, not one but two Figboots, which, like 99.999999999999999999999999999 (Oh crap, where's that infinity key? Screw it, call it 100)% of the people of the Earth have never ever EVER seen any proof of, in a matter of a couple hours no less. They manage to pop off two near enough to perfect shots (Let's face it, if it happened and they freaking HIT the phantom Figboots for crying out loud, That's close enough to perfect for this scenario.) and still they failed to get anything beyond a generously named "steak"? It's worse than dumb. You couldn't pitch this story to Ed Wood and be taken seriously.

AttorneyTom · 11th July 2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by AttorneyTom

When do we say around here that a Thread "has jumped the shark"?

I guess when it actually has ?

This thread has "Jumped the Shark". National Park Kidnappings, repetitive BF talking points, the claim of being 18 yrs of age, the repetitive BFF non evidence, the lack of any meaningful reply to the countless requests to provide some substance to the opinion and factual statements. Goverment conspiracies, facts propounded that are fiction. .. the list can go on..

You did well OS . You were able to get some attention.

10th July 2012, 11:03 AM	#482
godless dave Great Dalmuti Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota Posts: 6,122	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. Are those stories credible? Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. Citation, please.
	__________________ "If it's real, then it gets more interesting the closer you examine it. If it's not real, just the opposite is true." - aggle-rithm

10th July 2012, 11:29 AM	#483
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	Unexplained disappearances occur, since when does the NPS keep track of kidnappings? That would be the FBI if I remember correctly. The NPS does keep track of people who have gone missing, that way when they find their body washed up under one of the falls at Yellowstone 5 months later, they can identify them by what they were wearing. PS Parnassus I bought that Death at Yellowstone book
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

10th July 2012, 11:45 AM	#484
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 485	Originally Posted by godless dave Are those stories credible? Citation, please. I don't know, but when people hit a moose or a bear on the road, they contact either the police or DNR. The body would inevitably end up with the government and from there they would decide where to go with it. Yosemite National Park and Crater Lake National Park are at the top of the list for disappearances. It's something we don't see in the news. Guys, google "yosemite missing people" and you'll get literally countless cases of people who fall off a cliff, that go down a waterfall, get their bodies stuffed in crevices ect. The same thing happens all over the Country. Places like Washington state and Vancouver Island are notorious for these types of cases.
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10th July 2012, 11:49 AM	#485
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	You said KIDNAPPINGS up above, not disappearances, here is the quote: Originally Posted by Ontariosquatch Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic Now you conveniently talk about people falling off cliffs, whereas above you were saying 'kidnappings happen all the time' I am beginning to believe you are not a Bigfooter, just a BigfooTroller.
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

10th July 2012, 11:50 AM	#486
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 485	Many are confirmed as kidnappings. There are lots of cases. I'm not trolling you lol.
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10th July 2012, 10:34 AM	#481
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 485	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm Maybe sasquatches are so dad-gum delicious that the body never makes it to the authorities intact. The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues? It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward.

10th July 2012, 11:55 AM	#487
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	Originally Posted by Drewbot You said KIDNAPPINGS up above, not disappearances, here is the quote: Now you conveniently talk about people falling off cliffs, whereas above you were saying 'kidnappings happen all the time' I am beginning to believe you are not a Bigfooter, just a BigfooTroller. 'Ignore' is looking pretty good, isn't it?
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	__________________ SweatyYeti or Bill Munns would be my vote for looking at this - BFSleuth @ BFF I've got plenty of common sense! I just choose to ignore it. - Calvin; October 15, 1986

10th July 2012, 12:01 PM	#488
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	Are you trying to promote David Paulides' book?
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

10th July 2012, 12:16 PM	#489
AlaskaBushPilot Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,609	Originally Posted by Drewbot Of course the Native Americans were afraid to hunt Bigfoot, that is why they never killed any... The art of playing "cowardly and stupid" is in seeing how far you can push the act. Does this person know that people lived alongside gorillas for thousands of years in Africa, killing them for meat with primitive tools? Of course. This person also knows gorillas are smart enough to learn American Sign Language and use logic. A couple thousand years ago they'd stick lions, tigers, gorillas - all manner of wild beast - into the Coliseum with a gladiator. They had an extensive underground network of tunnels and lifts so an 800 lb tiger could be made to pop up out of nowhere. You could watch a guy with a sword take him on. That's why I don't buy the posturing. Because it is playing dumb and cowardly at such a scale so far removed from reality that it can't be true on the face of it. Chain-yanking.

10th July 2012, 12:30 PM	#490
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,616	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 Is this a comedy act? I can see into the future...
	__________________ What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?

10th July 2012, 12:45 PM	#491
AlaskaBushPilot Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,609	Originally Posted by GT/CS 'Ignore' is looking pretty good, isn't it? Beat you to it. The kidnappings in national forests - hey, there's some good ones. How 'bout that Champion ski/shooter athlete who was kidnapped for breeding with the father/son combo. I think she was jogging and they took her at gunpoint. They killed one of her would-be rescuers and shot her by accident when she was tied up to a tree. If you look into some of the serial killer kidnappings, you have the likes of Charles Ng and his partner. They built a room to keep them in and tortured/raped/filmed it all. Or that guy in Australia. He just robbed 'em and shot them. Who was the girl seeing the congressman that disappeared and was found in the park finally - raped and killed... Here again, so much of real life in the parks/forests is more dramatic, ghastly, scary than bigfoot.

10th July 2012, 01:50 PM	#492
The Shrike Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,804	^And it's publicized, not kept quiet. I remember doing field in a national park many years ago in which a couple of female campers had been stabbed and killed. It was all over the news and there were alerts at the park headquarters. Ontario, I'm not sure why you accept these nonsense stories uncritically. This is why several folks here have concluded that you must be trolling. It's difficult for us to believe that a living human could be as gullible as you seem to be. Here's a hint: the next time you encounter some "factoid" like the number of kidnappings in a national park, follow to the source and confirm that such an event happened at all.

10th July 2012, 01:59 PM	#493
Garrison Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Milton Keynes UK Posts: 1,430	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch Many are confirmed as kidnappings. There are lots of cases. I'm not trolling you lol. Well great then you won't have any trouble citing one will you?

10th July 2012, 02:38 PM	#494
Wolrab Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beautiful Finger Lakes Posts: 1,706	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch I don't know, but when people hit a moose or a bear on the road, they contact either the police or DNR. The body would inevitably end up with the government and from there they would decide where to go with it. Yosemite National Park and Crater Lake National Park are at the top of the list for disappearances. It's something we don't see in the news. Guys, google "yosemite missing people" and you'll get literally countless cases of people who fall off a cliff, that go down a waterfall, get their bodies stuffed in crevices ect. The same thing happens all over the Country. Places like Washington state and Vancouver Island are notorious for these types of cases. Quote: I don't think sneaking up on Bigfoot would be an easy task. Given the body structure seen in the PGF, eye-witness drawings, reported behaviour and analyzed DNA, I would say they're humans and not gorillas (if they exist, of course). There's no proof for any of this, but it might change soon. Today 05:02 PM Fixed both posts for you.
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10th July 2012, 03:44 PM	#495
RayG Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Somewhere in Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,326	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch I don't think sneaking up on Bigfoot would be an easy task. Yet P&G had no trouble filming one? I never got the impression they were 'sneaking' either. Gimlin should have taken the head shot. BOOM! Game over. RayG
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10th July 2012, 04:01 PM	#496
GeeMack Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Not Bandiagara Posts: 7,170	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues? It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward. That's what we call a paranoid conspiracy theory. And it's also a dishonest argument. It's the same kind of stupid nonsense the UFOlien believers try to pull when they say all the blacked out stuff in the documents is the proof of their claims. It's blacked out. It's nothing! You're using the lack of evidence to support your belief. In addition you're making excuses about why there is no evidence, and adding that to your argument as if more and more nonsense will eventually make sense.

10th July 2012, 04:55 PM	#497
Biscuit Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,764	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch Many are confirmed as kidnappings. There are lots of cases. I'm not trolling you lol. If bodies are "taken away by the government never to be heard rom again" then who is confirming them as kidnappings? This might actually be dumber then the scared hunters story so I am all ears.
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10th July 2012, 07:39 PM	#498
AttorneyTom Muse Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 883	Originally Posted by Biscuit If bodies are "taken away by the government never to be heard rom again" then who is confirming them as kidnappings? This might actually be dumber then the scared hunters story so I am all ears. When do we say around here that a Thread "has jumped the shark"?
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10th July 2012, 08:54 PM	#499
OntarioSquatch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 485	Originally Posted by GeeMack That's what we call a paranoid conspiracy theory. And it's also a dishonest argument. It's the same kind of stupid nonsense the UFOlien believers try to pull when they say all the blacked out stuff in the documents is the proof of their claims. That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation. When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping?

10th July 2012, 09:36 PM	#500
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,180	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation. When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping? It may be a kidnaping by someone but it is pretty hard to suggest that such a case adds to the numbers of secret government operations and disappeared bodies that nobody is supposed to know about.
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10th July 2012, 09:39 PM	#501
TheGoldcountry Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,530	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation. When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping? No, it's a slap in the face to use such tragedies to promote your conspiracy theories, and further your own agenda, just like a psychic who uses abductions to get media attention. Stop distorting what others have said and start examining your own motives.
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10th July 2012, 10:24 PM	#502
River Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,638	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues? It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward. Honest guys, there is evidence, I just cant post it becauz the dog stole my homework, errr I lost it in the wash. Honest, this whole thread wasnt a big troll attempt. They's real. I's seen em. Meanwhile... Requests for ANY "evidence of bigfoot" have been either ignored, or nonsense. There is no "evidence of bigfoot". There is only evidence of imaginations, and wishful thinking, confirmation bias and sometimes internet trolling. Like this entire thread you started. Can you post one piece of "bigfoot evidence" please to substantiate your claims? A specific piece please, that actually exists.
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10th July 2012, 11:30 PM	#503
captain koolaid Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 331	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch That's the thing though. The aren't gorillas. They can sneak up on us without us ever knowing... You can't see the eyes of the demon, until him come callin'.
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11th July 2012, 07:01 AM	#504
GeeMack Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Not Bandiagara Posts: 7,170	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch Originally Posted by GeeMack Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch The department of Natural Resources would be well aware of the existence of these creatures. There are many stories of Bodies that get taken away by the Government, never to be heard of again. The situation is much deeper than what most people realize. Every year unexplained kidnappings happen in National Forests that defy common logic. The National Park Service doesn't even want people to know about such cases. They claim they keep no track record of these kidnappings, but what sort of agency wouldn't keep a record of search and rescues? It would be highly beneficial for people to know what lurks in North American forests. Proving the reality surrounding Sasquatch will be a step forward. That's what we call a paranoid conspiracy theory. And it's also a dishonest argument. It's the same kind of stupid nonsense the UFOlien believers try to pull when they say all the blacked out stuff in the documents is the proof of their claims. That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation. When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping? You're presenting a paranoid conspiracy theory. You go tell the parents of a missing 2 year old that some department of natural resources is keeping secrets about Bigfoot tromping around in the woods. You tell them that unexplained kidnappings are happening which the National Park Service doesn't want people to know about. You tell those parents of that missing 2 year old that some official agency claims to have no records of mysterious kidnappings and somehow that might be related to their missing child. Do you even stop to read what you write before you hit the "Submit Reply" button? Your reply is a slap in the face to anyone who has ever had a loved one go missing in the woods and a slap in the face to every agency and park service that oversees the natural resources. Your argument is, by definition, a conspiracy theory. No intelligent person applying even a whit of objective consideration would find your position rational. Quite simply, you've jumped off the deep end. Your claims are not sane.
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11th July 2012, 08:59 AM	#505
Biscuit Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,764	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation. I was really hoping the underlined bit would be a link to some evidence. Once again this thread disappoints. Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping? What are talking about? Is this an actual thing that happened or did you make this up as a hypothetical?
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11th July 2012, 09:09 AM	#506
Biscuit Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,764	Originally Posted by AttorneyTom When do we say around here that a Thread "has jumped the shark"? I think you can go back to "bigfoot steak" for that. At this point its just watching a train wreck.
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11th July 2012, 09:17 AM	#507
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,616	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch That's a slap in the face to every family who has had their son or daughter go missing in a National Forest. Given the cases, at the very least it's worthy of further investigation. When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping? How did the toddler escape from sasquatch?
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11th July 2012, 10:34 AM	#508
Voodoosix Thinker Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 152	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 How did the toddler escape from sasquatch? ninja smoke bomb?
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11th July 2012, 11:31 AM	#509
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	Actually, the toddler was being used by a Bigfoot hunting group, Recording of the baby didn't work, so they borrowed the kid, and left him out overnight hoping to bring in 'Squatches'
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11th July 2012, 04:29 PM	#510
Monza Muse Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 929	Originally Posted by Biscuit I think you can go back to "bigfoot steak" for that. At this point its just watching a train wreck. I think you may have coined a new term, as in.... "My crazy uncle said he had proof of an alien abduction, but it just turned out to be a bigfoot steak." or "Robert Prey's evidence of a grassy knoll shooter is nothing more than bigfoot steak."
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11th July 2012, 04:37 PM	#511
rockinkt Muse Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 638	Originally Posted by OntarioSquatch <snip> When a 2 year old is found valleys away from where they disappeared, is it anything other than a kidnapping? OntarioSquatch...You use a lot of information from people that we know nothing about. For example, that story is one that David Paulides talks about a lot and uses in his book. Since you obviously believe these people without reservation, perhaps you can tell us about Mr. David Paulides; specifically, his work history and academic qualifications (if any) and why you would believe anything he tells you.
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11th July 2012, 04:38 PM	#512
Volsquatch Scholar Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 77	Originally Posted by river honest guys, there is evidence, i just cant post it becauz the dog stole my homework, errr i lost it in the wash. honest, this whole thread wasnt a big troll attempt. They's real. I's seen em. http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/.../trollface.png meanwhile... Requests for any "evidence of bigfoot" have been either ignored, or nonsense. There is no "evidence of bigfoot". There is only evidence of imaginations, and wishful thinking, confirmation bias and sometimes internet trolling. Like this entire thread you started. Can you post one piece of "bigfoot evidence" please to substantiate your claims? A specific piece please, that actually exists. tr1.jpg
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11th July 2012, 05:30 PM	#513
Biscuit Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,764	Originally Posted by Monza I think you may have coined a new term, as in.... "My crazy uncle said he had proof of an alien abduction, but it just turned out to be a bigfoot steak." or "Robert Prey's evidence of a grassy knoll shooter is nothing more than bigfoot steak." I love it! I have never coined a phrase before so I really hope this one sticks cause its the last item on my bucket list. "A nigerian prince promised me 3,000,000 U.S. dollars (three million) but all I got was a bigfoot steak."
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11th July 2012, 05:53 PM	#514
Cainkane1 Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The great American southeast Posts: 7,189	Two big foots have been shot? Wheres the rest of the animal? Why didn't he cut of a hand or something?
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11th July 2012, 06:20 PM	#515
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,180	Those clever bigfeet kidnaped the boy for their own nefarious ends and then moved the body a couple of miles so that it would look like a botched government job. Or wait, the government disappeared the kid as part of their known policy of kidnaping people and making them disappear without a trace and then they transported the body a couple of miles so that we would....think it was clever bigfeet. Well, I dunno, but there must be a conspiracy somewhere.
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