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Master Poster
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Is my friend a spy?
My address book disappeared last week right after my friend of 10 years visited. I immediately suspected him of taking it. Some days later I called him and he in fact did have my address book. He had no idea why he had it. Are there any other plausible explanations other than the spy one? Anybody with experience spying want to chime in?
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Ewige Blumenkraft
Join Date: Jun 2006
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You mean a physical address book? Where the Borg hasn't immediate access? That's suspicious in itself.
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Master Poster
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ottawa, ON
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If you immediately suspected him why wait days to make the call?
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Questions, comments, queries, bitches, complaints, rude gestures and/or remarks? |
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Salad Dodger
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manchester UK
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If he was a spy, why would he admit taking the book? Where did he have it? Who is in the address book that he could be interested in contacting? Have you ever suspected him of being under some form of mind control? Does he have a sinister foriegn accent? ("sinister" and "foriegn" dependent on location). Did he use an elaborate series of subterfuges to obtain the address book? Could it have simply fallen from the phone table in the hall into his umbrella in the stand next to it? Does he wear a trench coat?
(I once spied on my neighbours' barbecue from my awesome secret treehouse.) |
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"It's backwards thinking like this that made me leave Manchester. You Guinness swilling, Marmite blaspheming animal." - Malfie Henpox |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Kleptomania, perhaps? Or maybe you just shouldn't keep the phone numbers and current locations of heads of state in your address book... |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Are you involved in anything a spy might be interested in?
I'm guessing no. |
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Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Yes. I am his boss. I ordered him to take it.
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Philosopher
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I planted it on him. Naturally, after I copied it.
Expect to start receiving many interesting magazines in the mail. Don't pay now, we'll bill you later. |
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Join Date: May 2012
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Maybe he just accidentally picked it up thinking it was something of his and didn't realize he did it until you called to ask about it.
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: UK
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Maybe, just maybe, everyone isn't out to get you.
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Illuminator
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Get an iphone.
Seriously what is in your address book that a spy could want? |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Jun 2012
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My father once packed a tub of butter for work, thinking it was his lunchbox, and my sister left with the television remote in her handbag, thinking it was her glasses case. Spent the whole day looking for it.
Sometimes people do bizarre things without paying attention. |
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Muse
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Hypothetically, an intelligence officer, working in the field, would not let you realise that he had copied the address book if you were a target. Once you had realised he had taken it, you would simply warn your network through some other method not connected with the address book.
Indeed phone numbers and addresses are not all that useful anyway. If you had a network you would have special words and anticipated responses with your "fellow travellers" in the address book. A false shop front is just a normal shop without this information. Counter intelligence is about determining the enemy's network. Real intelligence is the pragmatic gathering of useful information like the range of vehicles, the loaded weight of a specific helicopter, the petrol reserves at forward bases....stuff gathered from secured technical manuals and internal documents....not address books. |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Considering you have spoken openly about your mental health problems in the past, I suggest not letting them get the better of you in this instance. The chances of him spying on you are virtually zero and the chances of him having picked up your address book by mistake are very high (it happens to other people all the time). I wouldn't give it any more thought and don't let it tarnish a long-term friendship.
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The bluetit is nesting in the grey loft.
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Penultimate Amazing
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Operative X3 has blown his cover. Execute plan Midnight Blue.
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Yesterday upon the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish that he would go away. |
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Illuminator
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Somewhat Elitist Parasite
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Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory. |
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"Nature is floods and famines and earthquakes and viruses and little blue-footed booby babies getting their brains pecked out by their stronger siblings! ....Nature doesn't care about me, or about anybody in particular - nature can be terrifying! Why do they even put words like 'natural' on products like shampoo, like it's automatically a good thing? I mean, sulfuric acid is natural!" -Julia Sweeney |
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Somewhat Elitist Parasite
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Thanks, Carnivore.
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Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory. |
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Illuminator
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I really hope most of the people in this thread who have answered in such a wanker-ish manner are unaware of the things that MN Brant has previously posted.
All too often people are being really insensitive to people who have mental health issues. |
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Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NT 150 511
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This, again. These simple little mistakes happen all the time. Someone packing or getting his stuff together accidentally picks something up that belongs to his host. I've done it myself. You seem to understand your mental health problems quite well. Try to understand that it's these same problems causing you to imagine sinister and unlikely explanations for a very ordinary and unsinister occurrence. Rolfe. |
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Penultimate Amazing
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Philosopher
Join Date: Jun 2009
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This, i can understand, sometimes things can just stack up evidence against someone when they really didn't do it, so you have to be sure.
Off of the top of my head, i can think of 2 major incidents in my life where this happened. Once , all evidence ( and it was some good evidence.) made it appear to my roommate that i had stolen about 200 dollars. When i did not, leading to 2 rather awkward days, before he found it. And the second happened to a friend of mine, who , through a series of jokes, and being the last person to handle it, seemed to have stolen one of my favorite knives. |
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Penultimate Amazing
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Yesterday upon the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish that he would go away. |
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Having read some of MNBrant's other posts, I don't think so as many of his posts hint at paranoia.
Even if MNBrant is trolling, I would rather be caught out and respond in a friendly and humane fashion. To answer the OP, no I don't think your friend is a spy. As many other posters have pointed out, he probably picked it up my mistake or when he was distracted. |
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Banned
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Did you get the ransom note yet?
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: UK
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Perhaps your friend is not a spy but everyone who posts in this thread is?
I moved your kettle last night btw. If you really are still having all these paranoid thoughts then seek medical help because, in all honesty, most of your rants reek of crazy. |
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Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
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Hey, if you read his earlier posts, he has sought help and is on medication. He seems to be trying his best to cope with his symptoms, without doping himself into complete zombie-hood. I don't think "most of your rants reek of crazy" is altogether the most helpful thing to say under the circumstances.
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Aluminum Tripod
Join Date: Nov 2010
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An actual spy would have photographed the address book with a ring or belt buckle camera while you were in the kitchen or something and you would never have known about it. Only a rank amateur would take the entire book while visiting.
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Illuminator
Join Date: Aug 2011
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It amazes me the number of people who continually fall for this obvious Poe.
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Winking at the Moon
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Is that your expert diagnosis, having interviewed and examined the OP and read his medical history?
Maybe he is lying about his mental health condition, maybe not. Either way, the intelligent thing to do is either to take his posts at face value or to ignore them; poking fun or enabling the delusions is IMO a really crappy way to behave. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Originally Posted by Agatha
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Philosopher
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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The label implies that it's difficult or impossible to determine if the person or claim is serious or just a parody. However, overtly accusing someone or something of being a Poe is meant to imply that they or it shouldn't be taken seriously, which is exactly what Agatha is arguing against. Unfortunately, it seems there are number of people who would rather ridicule a potentially ill person than take the chance of showing sympathy for someone who isn't actually ill. That's really kind of sad... (And before anyone points to my previous post in the thread, I did offer a serious alternative. The second sentence was meant as a light-hearted quip.) |
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