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Yesterday upon the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish that he would go away. |
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testis unus, testis nullus quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur |
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For starters the lips are human. The saliva that was found on the lens is pretty good evidence that these are indeed lips and not a random blob.
![]() ETA - If you look carefully in between, you'll see two front teeth |
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OntarioSquatch.
I personally guarantee you that if you printed that picture out and went to your local public place and asked 100 people what they saw with absolutely no leading at all, not one of them would say "Oh that's a set of lips" Human, Squatch, or otherwise. It's a random blur. There is nothing indentifiable in it. You see a Squatch because you are looking for a Squatch. If I show you 100 inkblots you're gonna see a Squatch in 99 of them. |
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- Opinions require evidence and no before you ask defining something as "Something doesn't require evidence" doesn't count. - In extreme cases continuing to be wrong when you've been repeatedly proven to be wrong is a form of rudeness. - Major in philosophy. That way you can also ask people "why" they would like fries would that. |
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Derek Randles has been involved in Bigfoot research for more than 25 years and of course never found anything, apart from the usual blobsquatch, mandatory for every good bigfoot site . What a wise man... (may I add lol?)
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Yesterday upon the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today I wish that he would go away. |
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Then I guess they are not
. Whatever they are, they are out there. That much I know.
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setting aside the point that i see only a sailboat and no teeth in the pic...
the camera was placed by humans, the camera was retrieved by humans... where does a picture of supposed human lips enter the "this must be bigfoot" equation? |
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Randles still seems to believe that Smeja's story will be verified by the DNA results.
I'm thinking other possibilities. Smeja and Driver are pranking, punking, and jackassing. In other words, they have created a practical joke that must be played out to the very end. (The Jackass culture.) The joke was given longer life by the Ketchum report (alleged). Folks are seeing in Smeja someone who is hiding something and are concluding that he experienced something or something more than he is admitting to. Perhaps he is hiding the fact that it is all a joke. Or, he and his amigo are plants meant to expose the world of Bigfootery. Under this scenario, his story is designed to sound convoluted and morally offensive to misdirect listeners away from its emptiness. And Ketchum came in to unwittingly carry the ruse even deeper into Bigfootery. Who planted them. Maybe just an experiment of their own. Maybe a skeptical organization. Or, maybe we will be surprised about the DNA report. I seriously doubt it though. |
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Who knows Jerrywayne, I wondered if it wasn't just one hoax playing into another. Pure coincidence since the Ketchum Study was instigated a couple of years before this incident happened. Then Derek talked Justin into sending in his sample and we have all of this drama. I don't understand why the proponents haven't figured out that Justin was probably RL's source and the one who leaked the "story" to begin with.
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It looks like the northern lights to me
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The top one looks like an X-ray to me, and the bottom one looks like a Lorax!
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I see a Schnauzer...
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Hahahah, thanks. That was the idea. The parallel to space alien abductions. Nobody believes them.
People are accustomed to giving the benefit of the doubt. Nobody can be as abjectly stupid as this. It's the radio interview, right? So people listen, and assume he's acting that retarded for a more cunning objective. No, I rather think he's just the idiot he portrays. In the woods, anyways. |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Well this was fun. I see I've missed nothing over the past few days than more of the same nonsense from the world of bigfootery.
I can never get a straight answer out of the 'footers with respect to bigfoot's response to cameras. Now is it that they evolved the ability to detect and evade them 100% of the time in about one generation, or that they like to get really close and French kiss them? |
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Pleeeeaseeee!
Its more than one species. See? More than a single response to cameras. Stoopid denialist scoffic egg-heads... |
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I thought sasquatch could detect the IR of active cameras, and the electrical activity of passive cameras? This kept them from ever appearing on a game cam. They stayed away from electrical/electronic devices.
In fact, that was the story of why Roger was able to film Patty. The K-100 is entirely mechanical. Apparently this squatch can detect modern cameras, but doesn't know what they are, and doesn't think that they should be avoided. And it likes to smooch things it doesn't understand... |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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knee xrays dont leave smudges on the camera, the only logical conclusion is that a skwatch was using the lost martial art ninja snot flinging so that the camera couldnt get a clear picture.
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"You post a lie, it is proven 100% false, you move the goalposts and post yet another lie and it continues on around till we're back to the original lie as if it will somehow become true if it's re-iterated again. The same misquotes over and over again. The same hindsight bias, appeals to authority, etc." -lapman describing every twoofer on the internet |
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Originally I thought Ketchum would see Bigfoot in DNA the way Green saw a dynamic trackway at Blue Creek Mountain road or Meldrum sees a Bigfoot prone in the Skookum artifact: through eyes that want to see and with a mind that wants to believe. I didn't think she would be involved in an outright hoax. Now she claims to have visited a family of Bigfoot herself, so I'm not sure what is going on. (I'm beginning to wonder if there are folks in Bigfoot land catering to believers, the naive and peaceful types, by manufacturing friendly habituation locations, analogous to the spiritualist's seance parlor).
I'm thinking "punking" by Smeja mainly because his "demographics" would fall in line with the punking and JACKASS crowd. He would get satisfaction from carrying the joke on and on and drawing more people unwittingly into it. He would be surprised to find that Ketchum was going to legitimize his "sample." The good thing about all of this is that we do have samples. A proper DNA study of the hair and blood could negate my scenario and prove skeptics wrong. Or it could offer no confirmation for Smeja's story and his tale will fail on its own demerits. |
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