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Old 14th June 2004, 06:02 AM   #41
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Feelings and their expression

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For all its faults, The Passion of the Christ is hardly a "revolting Catholic snuff movie." The lawyer in me appreciates your other sentiments, though I can't imagine where the vitriol comes from.
I admit that I was taking a cheap shot at that easy and much-holed target, the legal craft. (What the hell, lawyers tell the best lawyer jokes. Why should they have all the fun?) I predict that lawyering will survive all my little bombardments.

My distaste for Catholic iconography goes way, way back, to a ghastly painting of the crucifixion reproduced in loving four-color on the front of a Sunday supplement in the old San Francisco Examiner. I was about seven years old. My mother had to explain to me that yes, they really did drive the nails through the man's hands; this horrible thing I was looking at really happened. Poor woman, I remember her expression of distress and reluctance.

In later years I came to see that Catholickists wallow in this sort of thing worse than any other type of Christian. While I think that all religions are pernicious, I keep an especially warm place in my heart for the Mother Church of Rome and her cabinet of images. She opens it readily for little children to look into and be edified.

As for dumb-peasant Catholics like Mel Gibson: Are there no plows to follow? Are there no potatoes to dig? No wood to hew and water to draw? Those are the proper occupations for lay believers of his type.
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Old 14th June 2004, 07:24 AM   #42
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Yes, there is and the roots are thought to be from Cynic teachings. Money, wealth, belongings, homes, even clothes were abhored by the Cynics (as they went from village to village preaching to have everyone join them and accepting lodgings, food, etc.).
I didn't know that, but that's an interesting connection. After reading about them, I can see how they might have been an austere influence. They weren't really a fun lot were they?.

"I would rather go mad than experience pleasure."

Antisthenes, founder of the Cynics.


That seems a tad harsh...
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Old 14th June 2004, 08:25 AM   #43
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Re: Feelings and their expression

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My distaste for Catholic iconography goes way, way back, to a ghastly painting of the crucifixion reproduced in loving four-color on the front of a Sunday supplement in the old San Francisco Examiner. I was about seven years old. My mother had to explain to me that yes, they really did drive the nails through the man's hands; this horrible thing I was looking at really happened. Poor woman, I remember her expression of distress and reluctance.

In later years I came to see that Catholickists wallow in this sort of thing worse than any other type of Christian. While I think that all religions are pernicious, I keep an especially warm place in my heart for the Mother Church of Rome and her cabinet of images. She opens it readily for little children to look into and be edified.

As for dumb-peasant Catholics like Mel Gibson: Are there no plows to follow? Are there no potatoes to dig? No wood to hew and water to draw? Those are the proper occupations for lay believers of his type.


Wallow: to take unrestrained pleasure : DELIGHT


Hmmm, interesting
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Old 14th June 2004, 08:52 AM   #44
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Re: Feelings and their expression

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As for dumb-peasant Catholics like Mel Gibson: Are there no plows to follow? Are there no potatoes to dig? No wood to hew and water to draw? Those are the proper occupations for lay believers of his type.
What's a dumb-peasant Catholic?
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Old 14th June 2004, 10:03 AM   #45
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What's a dumb-peasant Catholic?
Same thing as a dumb-peasant Mormon or Protestant or Shiite or anything else: an unreflecting, simple-minded believer who swallows whatever his sect is spooning out. Prophets and popes love them.
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