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Legal Ramifications of Shooting a Kid in a Bigfoot Suit
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Bigfoot hunters are out in the woods, well-armed, with the intention of shooting a Sasquatch for scientific research. They have a location in the woods, and are certain that they are in contact with a group of Sasquatches. They have armed themselves and are prepared to collect a specimen for science. A shot is fired and one of the Bigfoot Hunters yells that he got one, they run to the body, and see it is a teen-aged boy in a gorilla suit, 3 other kids approach taking off their masks and asking 'what have you done?' What would the legal trouble these Hypothetical Bigfoot hunters would be in? I ask any prosecutors or legal professionals to weigh in on this. Let's assume the Bigfoot Hunters are on Private property with permission to be there. |
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"I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Death by mis-adventure
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Show me the monkey!
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Involuntary manslaughter.
It would be the trial of the new century. Worth a fortune televised as pay-per-view. |
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Bigfoot believers and Bigfoot skeptics are both plumb crazy. Each spends more than one minute per year thinking about Bigfoot. |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Nov 2002
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What is a hunter charged with when he accidentally kills a man, thinking it's a deer? When he fires at a rustle in the bushes, and it turns out not to be a turkey, but another hunter?
Here's a similar incident with no charges. http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...tland_hun.html |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Penultimate Amazing
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it!
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not!
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Kid's asking for it. It's like wearing a mini-skirt to a biker bar.
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"Never judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes... Because then it won't really matter, you’ll be a mile away and have his shoes."
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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The kid wasn't wearing a deer suit, and the hunters were intending to hoot an ape that doesn't exist
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"I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic |
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Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it!
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"Never judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes... Because then it won't really matter, you’ll be a mile away and have his shoes."
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I kinda was hoping this was an advice thread.
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Irrespective of the fact bigfoot almost certainly doesn't exist, anybody who goes out hunting it is a wannabe murderer in my book.
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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The Bigfoot costume is irrelevant. Taking away the Bigfoot aspect and substituting someone wearing a deer suit during hunting season, I seriously doubt anyone would prosecute you.
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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If later enquiries show that the annoying little sod was shot first and then dressed in the monkey suit, the guy may have problems.
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What star sign is he then. Capricorn. Uhh, Capricorn, eh? What are they like? He is the Son of God, our Messiah. King of the Jews. And that's Capricorn, is it? |
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Would depend on the venue rural Oklahoma vs suburban Chicago.
But I think two victims are more likely: bear or person not wearing a costume. On a related note Bipto should consider why no one has ever been able to bag a Bigfoot. |
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As someone said, involuntary man slaughter.
But...I've heard some states, counties, towns, have rules against shooting a bigfoot in an attempt to kill it. So....uh...better not shoot the kid in one of those counties because something will happen. What that something is? I don't know. |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Sep 2008
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What are the legal ramifications if you intend to shoot a kid, but accidentally kill a Bigfoot instead?
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Once I was renting a lodge in rural Maine in April, and it was a bit chilly. My then-g/f put on a fake fur coat to go out and the lodge owner said to her "Better watch where you go in that coat, hon. Someone's liable to think you're a bay'ah and take a shot at you."
To which my ex replied, "Well, I've got a red hat on." The lodge owner replied "That won't help you, hon. They'll just think you're a smaht bay'ah." I don't see how the scenario described could be ruled as anything other than a tragic accident. |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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It would probably depend on the relative wealth of the hunters vs the family of the children. Also, if the kid's mother or father was a cop things would be bad for the hunters. I would add race as a factor, but I don't know how often that would come up with this sort of thing.
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Philanthropic Misanthrope
Join Date: Apr 2009
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I can't find it, but there was a very similar thread to this previously.
My thoughts - Having a hunting license doesn't give you permission to go into the woods and shoot anything you like. The species you can take are strictly regulated, and Bigfoot isn't one of them anywhere that I've heard of. What you're describing is a bunch of people going into the woods to poach a Bigfoot, which, if it did exist, would be one of the rarest animals on Earth. During the course of their illegal activity, they kill a person. I suspect that this will jack up the severity of their punishment. |
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At first I was thinking involuntary manslaughter, like other posters. Your post convinced me that the hunters in question would be faced with severe civil prosecution at the very least. It would be a different story, though, if the hunter's intended game was bear I think. |
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Wouldn't whether or not they had a BF hunting license make a difference?
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Ah, but don't forget that the DNA project is going to prove bigfoot is human.
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Illuminator
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If I had a gun, and was in the woods, AND saw something that looked like Bigfoot, AND had a clear shot at it, I doubt that I'd shoot because I would be horrified at the idea that it was probably a person in costume intent on creating a(n) hoax.
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Muse
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If it were a kid in a suit, wouldn't the suit be kinda big on it (or else it's a little BF or a real big kid)? That for sure would be a dead giveaway.
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A little padding here, a little padding there, and you have Patty.
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AKA Paddy.
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For some reason I think all of these threads on the forums about what they are doing out there in Area X might play against them if the unthinkable happens.
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I would like to believe Kathy and what she tells me, but I can't lie and say that based on what little she can say about it that I don't have some serious reservations. These are a group of people running all over this plot of private land shooting at things that look like a bigfoot, I just can't get past that part.
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Illuminator
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At least they're not setting traps for them. That sounds even more dangerous. How about they just invest in some of those infrared game cameras?
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According to them, the bigfoot took them off the trees.
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