The prophecies of Ama

[Craig4]

Um... as prophets go, he sort of blows dead goats.

[Madalch]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Um... as prophets go, he sort of blows dead goats.

I think the term is necrofellatotragomancy.

[pakeha]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

...Yes, Craig B, fagin, Agatha, and others, my consolation in the failed 2012 Olympic Games (OG) in London prophecy is that there is still the tensions at the Spratly Islands which the Philippines is claiming. ...

I've checked the news and apparently there's a film about the soldiers stationed there that won an award in Warsaw recently:
http://entertainment.inquirer.net/63...ward-in-warsaw

A Vietnamese artist has made a DVD of her vision of the archipelago:
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/art...-spratlys.html

And this:

Quote:

The Philippines is perhaps the only country that has failed to make any significant improvement of its structures in the nine islands and reefs it directly controls in the Spratly Islands. Malaysia, another claimant state, has built spas and diving resorts on the Layang-Layang Reef it controls. China and Vietnam have built fortifications, watchtowers, lighthouses, airstrips and even buildings powered by solar panels in their respective areas of control.

Most Philippine structures in the area date back to the 1960s and '70s and are poorly maintained and withering, diminishing the operational capacity as well as the morale of Philippine forces stationed in the area. Philippine officials cite their commitment to the 2002 conduct agreement as a reason for their lagging investment in maintaining and improving its structures in the Spratly Islands. Commentators have pointed toward a lack of strategic foresight as the AFP has focused more on internal threats caused by various insurgencies across the country.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/NJ26Ad02.html

[George152]

Any news of our next end of the world on 11.11.2012?
I'm worried that it seems to have gone missing with all hands.

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by George152

Any news of our next end of the world on 11.11.2012?
I'm worried that it seems to have gone missing with all hands.

They don't make ends of the world like they used to. Or rather, they do.

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by Madalch

I think the term is necrofellatotragomancy.

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by abaddon

Still presenting global nuclear war as a good thing?

How are you going to survive? By taping up you windows and using draught excluders for 3 days?

You already admitted you have no idea how you will survive the ensuing nuclear winter, so here is what is really in front of you:

Months if not years of darkness, causing all plants to die, then all animals, including all humans.
Years if not decades or severe radioactive fallout causing painful and horrible death.
Weather disruption, spreading fallout everywhere
No roads, no electricity, no telephones, no buildings, no hospitals, no food, no potable water, just death for all and not even a swift one.
Few if any human survivors, likely spread so far out as to ensure the swift extinction of the human race.

This is what you are seeking. This is your consolation.

Three days supplies, some tape and some draught excluders will not protect you in any way.

You seem to believe three days after, you would emerge into some cleansed world, with pretty butterflies, and houses and wives for the taking. Wrong.

Even if you survived for three days, you would emerge into a world where your life would be grim, brutal and short.

And this is your consolation?

You want to scavenge the wreckage in hope of finding carrion food?
You want to be possibly reduced to cannibilism?
You want to have to drink poisoned water because there is no other?
You want to be forced to violently steal from your fellow man, just to survive?

And yet you still dont see how that is an odd desire

@abaddon, #70

You know the consequences of a nuclear war. That is very good.

South Africa did not continue developing nuclear weapons and has disassembled its arsenal. Why then are there states which desire to develop nuclear weapons? Can we not live in peace?

Do you like to bring back past glories? How about if the Greeks try it? The Romans? The Mongolians? The Persians? Etc. What happened to the lands that they conquered? Is it still the empire that they built? Why do we have to kill our fellowmen? Are we coward and we would like to kill the enemy?

I have not experienced war during my whole 65 years. I do not like war at all. But the spirit of Ama told us to be prepared for the coming war.

Who will kill the Filipinos? According to Ama, their fellow Filipinos. Killing fields. The conquerors will ask the survivor: ‘Do you believe in God?’ If you answer yes, you will get killed. The Muslims will ask as well: ‘Will you convert to Islam?’ If you answer no, you will get killed.’

[Slowvehicle]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

@abaddon, #70

You know the consequences of a nuclear war. That is very good.

South Africa did not continue developing nuclear weapons and has disassembled its arsenal. Why then are there states which desire to develop nuclear weapons? Can we not live in peace?

Do you like to bring back past glories? How about if the Greeks try it? The Romans? The Mongolians? The Persians? Etc. What happened to the lands that they conquered? Is it still the empire that they built? Why do we have to kill our fellowmen? Are we coward and we would like to kill the enemy?

I have not experienced war during my whole 65 years. I do not like war at all. But the spirit of Ama told us to be prepared for the coming war.

Who will kill the Filipinos? According to Ama, their fellow Filipinos. Killing fields. The conquerors will ask the survivor: ‘Do you believe in God?’ If you answer yes, you will get killed. The Muslims will ask as well: ‘Will you convert to Islam?’ If you answer no, you will get killed.’

Peace Crusader, why are you avoiding the question about your promise to repudiate your "prophet" if the war you hoped for did not happen?

[Stomatopoda]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Why then are there states which desire to develop nuclear weapons? Can we not live in peace?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

@abaddon, #70

You know the consequences of a nuclear war. That is very good.

Yet you do not, and that is very bad.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

South Africa did not continue developing nuclear weapons and has disassembled its arsenal.

Sure they did.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Why then are there states which desire to develop nuclear weapons?

Power.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Can we not live in peace?

No, you deny it but that is the fact. War is human nature.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Do you like to bring back past glories?

Not really, but if you refuse to study the mistakes of the past, then you are doomed to repeat them.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

How about if the Greeks try it? The Romans? The Mongolians? The Persians? Etc. What happened to the lands that they conquered? Is it still the empire that they built? Why do we have to kill our fellowmen? Are we coward and we would like to kill the enemy?

Yup.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I have not experienced war during my whole 65 years. I do not like war at all. But the spirit of Ama told us to be prepared for the coming war.

Rubbish. You post continuously that you want it, that it makes you glad, you like it, you desire it. You posted this.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Who will kill the Filipinos?

Who says they will be killed?

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

According to Ama, their fellow Filipinos. Killing fields.

According to the proven liar.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

The conquerors will ask the survivor: ‘Do you believe in God?’ If you answer yes, you will get killed. The Muslims will ask as well: ‘Will you convert to Islam?’ If you answer no, you will get killed.’

And so we arrive at your anti islamic rant. You reveal more of yourself, and the vista exposed is not a pretty one.

[fromdownunder]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I do not like war at all.

Of course you do. You were practically salivating over the idea that you would get 10 wives, a free house and a petting zoo and university just up the road, and that FIVE BILLION people would die.

You wanted FIVE BILLION people to die. And now you don't even appear to understand why people on this and your other threads think that your desire for this to happen is probably the most revolting thing that they (we) have ever heard. So your "I don't like war" thingy is utter crap.

You did nothing but express your disappointment that the Olympic Games prophesy was a complete abject failure, and continued to hope that WWIII would happen soon. And you are still hoping for WWIII will happen. Buy your own house.

Norm

[pakeha]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

... But the spirit of Ama told us to be prepared for the coming war.

Who will kill the Filipinos? According to Ama, their fellow Filipinos. Killing fields. The conquerors will ask the survivor: ‘Do you believe in God?’ If you answer yes, you will get killed. The Muslims will ask as well: ‘Will you convert to Islam?’ If you answer no, you will get killed.’

Is your medium claiming now there won't be an invasion but rather civil war?

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by pakeha

Is your medium claiming now there won't be an invasion but rather civil war?

Peace Crusader, could you perhaps just get back to us when your prophet is a bit more consistent?

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Peace Crusader, could you perhaps just get back to us when your prophet is a bit more consistent?

Or maybe when your prophet actually gets one right.

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by Mojo

Or maybe when your prophet actually gets one right.

I thought it wise to set an attainable goal.

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by pakeha

Is your medium claiming now there won't be an invasion but rather civil war?

@pakeha, #92

There will still be invasion of the Philippines by the Chinese. The spirit of Ama said that the Philippines will experience being under the Chinese like what happened during World War II when the Japanese occupied the Philippines.

He also said that one day, the Filipinos will be surprised to find that they are surrounded by communists. I think it will be the Filipino communists, under the direction of the Chinese who are also communists, who will interrogate the survivors.

Ama said that the Chinese will leave the Philippines after a few years, and the Philippines will not be touched by any foreign powers anymore.

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by Agatha

None of these 19 prophecies has happened, and many are mere restatements of the status quo so are not prophecies in any sense of the word.

1 VIOLENT WEATHER - More violent manifestations of the weather will occur, causing devastation to both people and crops

More violent than what? There will always be violent weather from time to time, and occasionally people or crops are caught up in it. This is not prophecy, merely a statement of how the world has always been.

@Agatha, #63

Isn’t it that the concern of people these days is about global warming or climate change? Why can people not attribute that these changes are signs from the only true God?

[Pixel42]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Isn’t it that the concern of people these days is about global warming or climate change?

Yes.

Quote:

Why can people not attribute that these changes are signs from the only true God?

Because we know exactly what's causing them, and it isn't God.

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

@Agatha, #63

Isn’t it that the concern of people these days is about global warming or climate change? Why can people not attribute that these changes are signs from the only true God?

Because we have science.

[jsfisher]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

@Agatha, #63

Isn’t it that the concern of people these days is about global warming or climate change? Why can people not attribute that these changes are signs from the only true God?

PeaceCruasader,
Is this an artful evasion or poor comprehension? The Ama prophecy about violent weather was trivial. Of course there will be violent weather, just as the sun will rise tomorrow.

Address that point without the diversions about signs from some deity. You are trying to claim the trivial and the obvious as prophetic successes. They are not.

[Elizabeth I]

Originally Posted by Pixel42

Because we know exactly what's causing them, and it isn't God.

Originally Posted by Craig4

Because we have science.

Maybe PC thinks God is "hardening the hearts" of the anti-global-warming types like he did with Pharaoh.

[pakeha]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

@pakeha, #92

There will still be invasion of the Philippines by the Chinese. The spirit of Ama said that the Philippines will experience being under the Chinese like what happened during World War II when the Japanese occupied the Philippines.

He also said that one day, the Filipinos will be surprised to find that they are surrounded by communists. I think it will be the Filipino communists, under the direction of the Chinese who are also communists, who will interrogate the survivors.

Ama said that the Chinese will leave the Philippines after a few years, and the Philippines will not be touched by any foreign powers anymore.

Hang on, PC.
What about the Muslims, then?
The one your medium says will kill those who refuse to convert to Islam?
Now you say the interrogations will be by Philippino communists?

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

@Agatha, #63

Isn’t it that the concern of people these days is about global warming or climate change? Why can people not attribute that these changes are signs from the only true God?

Well, PC, do you really think a medium who spins that foolish story about Angelina Imden or about Tiberius Caesar adopting a golem Pontius Pilate can be taken seriously?

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Because we have science.

Originally Posted by Pixel42

Yes.


Because we know exactly what's causing them, and it isn't God.

What is causing global warming? What are there more tornadoes in the US? And massive. And frightening. Why are hurricanes more into higher categories?

When I was growing up in the Philippines in the 1950s and 1960s, the typhoons were usually about 100 kph. Now, we have more than 200 kph. What’s going on?

[Nay_Sayer]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

What is causing global warming? What are there more tornadoes in the US? And massive. And frightening. Why are hurricanes more into higher categories?

When I was growing up in the Philippines in the 1950s and 1960s, the typhoons were usually about 100 kph. Now, we have more than 200 kph. What’s going on?

Nature. welcome to planet earth where things happen differently then they did the last time they happened.

What do you suppose is the cause PC?

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

What is causing global warming?

People.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

What are there more tornadoes in the US?

Stats please. Don't have any? Tough luck for you.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

And massive.

And you know you can't back that up either. Once again, tough luck for you.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

And frightening.

I can't help it if you are frightened by thunder. Does it help if you think of it as god moving his furniture?

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Why are hurricanes more into higher categories?

Why would those categories exist if hurricanes never before got that strong?

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

When I was growing up in the Philippines in the 1950s and 1960s, the typhoons were usually about 100 kph. Now, we have more than 200 kph.

Ah, the accuracy of childhood anecdotes. I expect you have the data to verify this? Yes?

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

What’s going on?

I can tell you what's going on. Life the universe and everything. Except for you.

[Nay_Sayer]

Originally Posted by abaddon

People.
Stats please. Don't have any? Tough luck for you.
And you know you can't back that up either. Once again, tough luck for you.
I can't help it if you are frightened by thunder. Does it help if you think of it as god moving his furniture?
Why would those categories exist if hurricanes never before got that strong?

Ah, the accuracy of childhood anecdotes. I expect you have the data to verify this? Yes?
I can tell you what's going on. Life the universe and everything. Except for you.

lemme tell you something whippersnapper when I was a lad we had to walk everywhere in 10 feet of snow barefoot and uphill both ways!

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by pakeha

Hang on, PC.
What about the Muslims, then?
The one your medium says will kill those who refuse to convert to Islam?
Now you say the interrogations will be by Philippino communists?


Well, PC, do you really think a medium who spins that foolish story about Angelina Imden or about Tiberius Caesar adopting a golem Pontius Pilate can be taken seriously?

I would like to refer you to http://aristean.org/transcript070.htm . Use your Google automatic translator from Filipino to English. NPA is New People’s Army, the military arm of the Communist Party of the Philippines.

Regarding your questions about Angelina Imden and the golem Pontius Pilate, you still do not understand that the spirit of Ama and the “medium” Ka Apaz are two distinct separate entities. Most of what I share to you are what Ama said verbatim.

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by abaddon

Stats please. Don't have any? Tough luck for you.

not sure but i think he's right on this one. i saw a doc on discovery about this, see Tornado Alley^WP

Quote:

90% of tornadoes hit this region of the U.S because cold, dry air from Canada and the Rocky Mountains meets warm, moist air from the Gulf of Mexico and hot, dry air from the Sonoran Desert, which causes atmospheric instability, heavy precipitation, and many intense thunderstorms.

ETA: no supernatural cause indeed but absolutely, it don't seem that impossible to me that US endure more tornadoes than most parts of the planet

[fromdownunder]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Regarding your questions about Angelina Imden and the golem Pontius Pilate, you still do not understand that the spirit of Ama and the “medium” Ka Apaz are two distinct separate entities. Most of what I share to you are what Ama said verbatim.

What is it about "Angelina Imden does not exist" don't you understand?

What is it about "Pontius Pilate was not a Golem" don't you understand?

Norm

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by Akuma Tennou

not sure but i think he's right on this one. i saw a doc on discovery about this, see Tornado Alley^WP

Metrologists use two important words. "on record".

How many twisters visited tornado alley in 500 AD? Nobody knows.

Originally Posted by Akuma Tennou

ETA: no supernatural cause indeed but absolutely, it don't seem that impossible to me that US endure more tornadoes than most parts of the planet

Same answer. As far as anyone knows Egypt suffered tornados in the past, and the pyramids were an attempt to stop them.

[PeaceCrusader]

Originally Posted by abaddon

People.
Stats please. Don't have any? Tough luck for you.
And you know you can't back that up either. Once again, tough luck for you.
I can't help it if you are frightened by thunder. Does it help if you think of it as god moving his furniture?
Why would those categories exist if hurricanes never before got that strong?

Ah, the accuracy of childhood anecdotes. I expect you have the data to verify this? Yes?
I can tell you what's going on. Life the universe and everything. Except for you.

Here, from Wikipedia, on “Tornadoes in the United States”:

Intensity

A powerful tornado hits the town of Dimmitt, Texas.
In the United States, tornadoes have been known to form at high and low intensities. The probability of a high intensity or violent tornado differs by location across the country.[39] For example, due to the high frequency of tornadoes in the "Tornado Alley" area mentioned before, a more violent tornado would be more likely to form there due to the strength of the thunderstorms produced by the two bordering air masses.[40] The state with highest number of F5 and EF5 tornadoes since data was available in 1950 is Alabama with seven tornadoes. Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas each are tied for second most with six.[29] The state with the highest number of F5 and EF5 tornadoes per square mile, however, was Iowa.[41] The state with the most number of tornadoes classified as "violent", or F4 and F5, is Kentucky, and the state with the highest average intensity ranking for tornadoes is Alabama.[41]
Tornadoes that are classified as EF4 and EF5 (or "violent tornadoes") on the Enhanced Fujita Scale only account for an average of two percent of all tornadoes in the United States each year.[42] However, these high intensity storms do account for an average of seventy percent of all tornado-related deaths in the United States each year.[43] These storms can have winds of over 200 miles per hour (90 m/s) and stay on the ground for over an hour.[44]
The United States has seen 58 F5 and EF5 (the highest intensity and damage ranking) tornadoes since records began in 1950.[29] No tornadoes prior to 1950 were officially ranked F5, due to inadequate engineering data and other information on the historical tornadoes. From 1950–1970 tornadoes were assessed retrogressively, primarily using information recorded in government databases, and newspaper photographs and descriptions. Beginning in 1971, tornadoes were rated by the NWS using on-site damage surveys.[45]
There was a tornado that almost added an F6 rating to the Fujita scale. On May 3, 1999, a very powerful tornado struck the town of Moore, Oklahoma.[46] This storm was a part of the 1999 Oklahoma tornado outbreak, which also brought many violent storms to the states of Kansas, Arkansas, and Tennessee.[46] In total, the storm produced 66 tornadoes over four states.[46] The near F6 storm took place near the town of Bridge Creek, Oklahoma, and was in the same county as the aforementioned Moore.[46] During the storm, a group of students in meteorology from the University of Oklahoma had chased the storm on a Doppler on Wheels (or DOW), which can take readings from storms while attached to a car.[46] When the Doppler on Wheels took data from the nearby storm, winds were estimated to be in excess of 318 miles per hour (142 m/s), which was over the wind speed in the F5 classification during that time.[46] Although the wind speed was over the F5 maximum, the tornado was not named the first ever F6 storm.[46] Other scientists reviewed the DOW data taken by the students, and concluded that the estimated wind speed may have been inaccurate, but still over 300 miles per hour (130 m/s).[46] Also, the wind speed recorded was taken from over 200 feet (60 m) above ground level.[46] The National Weather Service also did a damage check, and found that the damage was that of an average F5 tornado.[46]

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Regarding your questions about Angelina Imden and the golem Pontius Pilate,

You mean the questions you refuse to answer.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

you still do not understand that the spirit of Ama and the “medium” Ka Apaz are two distinct separate entities. Most of what I share to you are what Ama said verbatim.

Except with non sequitirs.

Angeline Imden does not exist, is not a giantess, and does not collect corpses.

PP is not a golem. Golems do not exist.

Ka Apaz has lied to you.

[fromdownunder]

Originally Posted by abaddon

Stats please. Don't have any? Tough luck for you.
And you know you can't back that up either. Once again, tough luck for you.
I can't help it if you are frightened by thunder. Does it help if you think of it as god moving his furniture?
Why would those categories exist if hurricanes never before got that strong?

Ah, the accuracy of childhood anecdotes. I expect you have the data to verify this? Yes?
I can tell you what's going on. Life the universe and everything. Except for you.

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Here, from Wikipedia, on “Tornadoes in the United States”:

Intensity

A powerful tornado hits the town of Dimmitt, Texas.
In the United States, tornadoes have been known to form at high and low intensities.

[snip]

What has your cut and paste response got to do with the question Abaddon asked? Here is a hint - absolutely nothing. Providing data relating to the question appears to be another mystery that you cannot solve.

Norm

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by abaddon

Metrologists use two important words. "on record".

How many twisters visited tornado alley in 500 AD? Nobody knows.


Same answer. As far as anyone knows Egypt suffered tornados in the past, and the pyramids were an attempt to stop them.

hey, i was just saying that regardless of the apocalyptic crap that hypothesis is not absurd. i didn't understand it as "there are more tornadoes in USA now than in the past" but as "there are more tornadoes in USA than anywhere". never heard about that pyramid thing though (source?), but are you talking about tornadoes or sandstorms?

[fromdownunder]

Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer

lemme tell you something whippersnapper when I was a lad we had to walk everywhere in 10 feet of snow barefoot and uphill both ways!

Well, somebody had to do it. Obligatory Monty Python Sketch follows:

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah?

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: You're right there, Obadiah.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: A cup o' cold tea.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Without milk or sugar.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Or tea.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: In a cracked cup, an' all.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Because we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness, son".

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Aye, 'e was right.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Aye, 'e was.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: I was happier then and I had nothin'. We used to live in this tiny old house with great big holes in the roof.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, 'alf the floor was missing, and we were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Eh, you were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in t' corridor!

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Oh, we used to dream of livin' in a corridor! Would ha' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House? Huh.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Well, when I say 'house' it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: We were evicted from our 'ole in the ground; we 'ad to go and live in a lake.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t' shoebox in t' middle o' road.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Cardboard box?

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Aye.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.

ALL: They won't!

Norm

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

Here, from Wikipedia, on “Tornadoes in the United States”:

Intensity
<snip>

So a big tornado hit a small town in the middle of nowhere. Have you no clue how often that happens?

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by Akuma Tennou

hey, i was just saying that regardless of the apocalyptic crap that hypothesis is not absurd. i didn't understand it as "there are more tornadoes in USA now than in the past" but as "there are more tornadoes in USA than anywhere". never heard about that pyramid thing though (source?), but are you talking about tornadoes or sandstorms?

Gosh no, I made the pyramid quip up as an illustration of how easy it is to just make stuff up on the fly, as our proponent in this thread is currently doing.

Perhaps I was a little too good at it?

[pakeha]

Originally Posted by PeaceCrusader

I would like to refer you to http://aristean.org/transcript070.htm . Use your Google automatic translator from Filipino to English. NPA is New People’s Army, the military arm of the Communist Party of the Philippines.

Regarding your questions about Angelina Imden and the golem Pontius Pilate, you still do not understand that the spirit of Ama and the “medium” Ka Apaz are two distinct separate entities. Most of what I share to you are what Ama said verbatim.

PC, if you want to introduce a source into the discussion, quote it here and in English, please.

PC, you still don't understand that no matter who said it, the story of Angelina Imden is demonstrably false.
As is the story of Pontius Pilate being a golem adopted by Tiberius Caesar.
In the former, as you know very well, there was no Helene Curtis fortune to inherit. This has been shown to you.
You can't pretend otherwise, PC. You know very well the story of Angelina Imden is nonsense.
And since you know this foolish tale is false, what does that tell you about the rest of the fables your medium has foisted upon this group?

In the latter, adoption by an Emperor is a public affair, not a private. Your medium also got Pontius Pilate's death place wrong.
A few moments of reflection would let you know why the story about the Pharisees casting a nail from the cricifixion into the sea to calm a storm, etc., is ridiculous.

Of course I think all this comes from your medium.
Who could believe the holy spirit would tell such flagrant nonsense?

[Akuma Tennou]

Originally Posted by abaddon

Gosh no, I made the pyramid quip up as an illustration of how easy it is to just make stuff up on the fly, as our proponent in this thread is currently doing.

Perhaps I was a little too good at it?

nah, "students" are gullible. i hope to learn fast here though
ETA: d'oh, scholars too

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by Akuma Tennou

nah, "students" are gullible. i hope to learn fast here though
ETA: d'oh, scholars too

Dunno. Seems to me you are well able to ask the really pointy questions that certain folks do not like to answer.