The War on Non-Christmas - Page 2

TragicMonkey · 12th November 2012, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Alt+F4

Oh please. Yeah I agree a "War on Christmas" is not an appropriate use of the "war" as a defined word. War is armed conflict between nations or parties; both the War on Terror and the War on Drugs meet this definition.

And it's legally irresponsible to use the term "war" lightly.

For instance, insurance contracts do not cover acts of war. If you are injured by falling while decorating your Xmas tree, your homeowner's insurance can get out of paying by declaring you a casualty of the War on Xmas. By putting up a tree, you entered the lists, and as a combatant you're certainly not covered, you reckless warmonger, you!

P.J. Denyer · 12th November 2012, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Vermonter

I for one really like Chrismas lights and plan on putting them up pretty soon. I used to be bothered, but by now I'm used to see Christmas decorations up by the time Halloween has rolled around.

Perhaps we could roll the two together and have a zombie Jesus and fake blood drinks and....... oh, wait a minute...........

Cuddles · 12th November 2012, 06:17 AM

My local Tesco had their first Christmas display up at the start of October. That's a couple of weeks before they had their Halloween displays up. I quite like Christmas, but I think having it take up a quarter of the year may be a little excessive.

RockNroll · 12th November 2012, 06:55 AM

I for one absolutely love Christmas (and don’t mind the fact that it apparently gets longer each year). I get almost 3 weeks off work (digging into the vacation days I’ve saved during the year), I love to receive presents (and to give them too, I guess), I get to wear horrible kitschy sweaters and listen to Bing Crosby, and I have a socially acceptable excuse for being a gluttonous drunkard.

I see no problem whatsoever with being a Christmas-celebrating atheist. It’s not like we have rules governing what we can and cannot do, besides not believing in magical tyrants. We don’t have to worry about angering the goddess Atheae by acknowledging a false god’s holidays

Besides, all the best parts of Christmas are either secular, or taken from pagan religions nobody believes in anymore. I don’t feel like I’m losing anything by skipping the lame Jesussy parts (like stopping the party midway through to go to a boring midnight mass, for instance).

As for the commercialisation of Christmas, I’m all for it. Unlike religion, commerce is actually useful to our society and greatly improves all our lives. Isn’t that worth celebrating?

Gawdzilla · 12th November 2012, 07:05 AM

Christmas is a reason to party in the early winter. (For the superior hemisphere, at any rate.) Anything else is mere detail.

Barber Shop · 12th November 2012, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by jj

Newtonmas? What kind of display? Falling apples?

Christ-Hitch-Mas

Gawdzilla · 12th November 2012, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Barber Shop

Christ-Hitch-Mas

St. Christopher of the Hitchens Day.

Hitchslapmas.

Whiskeynsmokesmas.

TragicMonkey · 12th November 2012, 10:18 AM

Xmas is really just Walrustide anyway. And the great thing about Walrustide is that you can celebrate it however you like, St Walrus doesn't give a rat's damn about you. He dwells in blubbery glory in the Walrus Dimension, drinking blood and chewing up seals. Do what you like, won't bug St Walrus. Just don't cross him. Ever. He's a laissez faire, uninvolved member of the pantheon unless you piss him off. Then he's four tons of enraged supernatural killing machine, with no concept of pity or remorse. He'll welter in your gore and love every second of it. There's a carol about St Walrus. It begins "you better watch out".

Alareth · 12th November 2012, 11:00 AM

I have seen Christmas displays in stores as early as the first week of October in recent years.

qayak · 12th November 2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Draca

I don't agree with this. Costco for one goes both in early and out early for shopping seasons. Most Christmas items are out of Costco a couple of weeks before Christmas. The idea is for people to buy items FOR Christmas when it does come. Not to display Christmas in its season.

Is everyone suppose to wait until the week before Christmas to run out and buy all the decorations and presents? Can you imagine how unbearable the stores would all be? Why is it so wrong to prepare for things ahead of time.

Now if Costco was playing Christmas music and decorating the actual warehouse at the same time I would agree with you. That would be extending the season way to early, not just offering goods for people to buy in preparation. That's not what they're doing though.

Tough that you don't agree. When I say this is what's wrong with Christmas you must agree or face my wrath! Forget all that logic ****, I want to complain and I want sympathy!

Now... shall we try again?

Oh, wait! My wife just yelled! We're off to Costco!

jj · 12th November 2012, 05:55 PM

Please bear in mind that I have no problem at all with having a nice party on the darkest day of the year.

I just can't stand the faux-joy that is forced upon everyone.

sonofthor · 12th November 2012, 06:11 PM

Happy Festivus... for the Rest of Us!

This!>http://www.festivusweb.com/

RedRatSnake · 12th November 2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

My mother once threatened me with coal as a gift. I explained how I could use it to make an explosive. I never got coal.

LMAO ~

I once got coal in my stocking at my grandparents house, I must have been about 7 or so, my sister got a hamster, I hated that thing.

fuelair · 12th November 2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by commandlinegamer

That's nothing new. IIRC, Plato moaned about Xmas traders touting their wares earlier every year.

And that was before Chris even showed up..........l.l.

jj · 12th November 2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by sonofthor

happy festivus... For the rest of us!

This!>http://www.festivusweb.com/

and now for the airing of grievances!

OnlyTellsTruths · 13th November 2012, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Alt+F4

Oh please. Yeah I agree a "War on Christmas" is not an appropriate use of the "war" as a defined word. War is armed conflict between nations or parties; both the War on Terror and the War on Drugs meet this definition.

Oh give me a break, the War on Drugs is a joke. The War on Terror is only slightly less of a joke.

Both turned out to be wars on freedom in many ways.

ETA: Also, how do you define the war on drugs as a "conflict between nations or parties"?? Surely if you think drug users and sellers are a "party" then christmas users and sellers would be a "party" as well.....

The only difference I can see is that drugs are illegal in some countries. Illegal was not in your own definition "War is armed conflict between nations or parties", so I'm not sure why that would count.

Marcus · 13th November 2012, 04:24 AM

Christmas is in full swing for me, in fact the deadline has already passed for people wishing to order custom jewelry boxes from me in time for The Day.

I love Christmas.

Jack by the hedge · 13th November 2012, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by Cuddles

My local Tesco had their first Christmas display up at the start of October. That's a couple of weeks before they had their Halloween displays up. I quite like Christmas, but I think having it take up a quarter of the year may be a little excessive.

My daughter wanted us to get a second Halloween pumpkin, so she could carve one herself. We went back to Tesco the day before Halloween only to find their huge array of Halloween crap had magically changed overnight into Christmas crap.

TragicMonkey · 13th November 2012, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

My daughter wanted us to get a second Halloween pumpkin, so she could carve one herself. We went back to Tesco the day before Halloween only to find their huge array of Halloween crap had magically changed overnight into Christmas crap.

Carving a jack o'lantern out of the back of Frosty's head has a certain appeal.

Cuddles · 13th November 2012, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths

Surely if you think drug users and sellers are a "party" then christmas users and sellers would be a "party" as well.....

A Christmas party!

mikeyx · 13th November 2012, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by jj

There is no such thing as a war on Christmas.

There is, however, a war on it not being Christmas 24/7, as evidenced by the fact I am already seeing lights, Christmas displays, advertisements, and "don't wait for black Friday" posters.

There is a war, and the war is to extend Christmas to January 2.

Enough, already.

I'm tempted to say "boycott Christmas", but that's socially unacceptable.

You're actually thinking og giftmas which is commonly mistaken for christmas by greedy idiots.

Merton · 13th November 2012, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Draca

I completely agree. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday for the reasons you give.

Same here. Food, family, and football (for us Americans)! What more could you ask?

Quote:

Christmas has also been better since the family cut down on gift giving. Now we draw one family member's name for a gift exchange. The gift giving stress has been shredded and the holiday is now centered on the more important things.

We've moved beyond that as well: no more gifts! It is so nice not to have to partake in this commercialist BS anymore. Now if I can only convince my work to do the same...

Marcus · 13th November 2012, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Merton

Same here. Food, family, and football (for us Americans)! What more could you ask?

We've moved beyond that as well: no more gifts! It is so nice not to have to partake in this commercialist BS anymore. Now if I can only convince my work to do the same...

That's sad, the gifts are the most fun part . Receiving them for the kids of course, but for the adults finding and giving them.

Merton · 13th November 2012, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Marcus

That's sad, the gifts are the most fun part . Receiving them for the kids of course, but for the adults finding and giving them.

Well, we don't really have any kids: my only niece lives in California and other than one step-nephew who gets plenty of toys from his immediate family, there is no one under 30 in attendance. We just want to get together and relax.

Dcdrac · 13th November 2012, 08:02 AM

In art class at school i did a cartoon called Father Christmas Meets the Hells Angels...

P.J. Denyer · 13th November 2012, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Dcdrac

In art class at school i did a cartoon called Father Christmas Meets the Hells Angels...

A friend of mine wrote a short play called 'Christmas at the Jehovahs'

sackett · 13th November 2012, 09:08 AM

All the gift-giving at Christmas really exasperates me!

Gift-getting, now that's a different ball of string.

jj · 14th November 2012, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Soapy Sam

This had already occurred by about 1708. Christmas has moved back through the year so far it has actually been lapped.
What you will be forced to celebrate this December is in fact Christmas 2013.

OMG! You're RIGHT!!!!!!

jj · 14th November 2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Cuddles

My local Tesco had their first Christmas display up at the start of October. That's a couple of weeks before they had their Halloween displays up. I quite like Christmas, but I think having it take up a quarter of the year may be a little excessive.

Careful there, as Soapy Sam has pointed out, those displays are for Christmas 2013, the ones last year were for this winter!

jj · 14th November 2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by mikeyx

You're actually thinking og giftmas which is commonly mistaken for christmas by greedy idiots.

If there was a high-5 smiley, I'd be using it right now!

Skeptical Greg · 14th November 2012, 01:40 PM

The ostentatious crap like the Mercedes, Santa Claus adds really piss me off..

Baby Jesus must be rolling in his grave... No - wait....

fuelair · 15th November 2012, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Dcdrac

In art class at school i did a cartoon called Father Christmas Meets the Hells Angels...

So.......who won?

fuelair · 15th November 2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptical Greg

The ostentatious crap like the Mercedes, Santa Claus adds really piss me off..

Baby Jesus must be rolling in his grave... No - wait....

Little Baby Jeebus lies a' mouldering in his grave
but his troops go shambling on..........

TragicMonkey · 15th November 2012, 12:42 PM

Santa would never drive a Mercedes. His wings would never fit inside, even folded. And his talons, perfectly adapted for ripping flesh and crushing skulls, would have difficulty with gearshifts and steering wheels. No, there is simply no vehicle better suited for Santa's transport than his own indestructible reptilian body. Remember that old carol, "In the Vast Shadow of His Wings Is Death and Fire "? I love Xmas.

jj · 15th November 2012, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by SezMe

Well, the other possibility is that I'm getting all huffy over a tongue-in-cheek OP.

Well more mocking the "War on Christmas" than tongue-in-cheek, but here is some of that, too, so it's just a war on war memes.

jj · 15th November 2012, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Cuddles

A Christmas party!

Would have to be better than a political party, as long as it's not of the "thou must needs be happy or else" variety.

schplurg · 17th November 2012, 01:59 PM

Christmas should be in the summer. Summer doesn't have any good long holidays. I'd rather have my X-mas vacation when it's warm outside (in Cali). Wasn't Jesus supposedly born more toward summer anyways?

Mercurial Artism · 17th November 2012, 02:18 PM

I'm making cards for people. Who needs lots of bulky stuff crowding the living space until you can't walk without tripping over crappy plastic baubles?

Soapy Sam · 17th November 2012, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mercurial Artism

I'm making cards for people. Who needs lots of bulky stuff crowding the living space until you can't walk without tripping over crappy plastic baubles?

How's about "Get Out of Christmas Free" cards...?

SezMe · 17th November 2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by schplurg

Christmas should be in the summer.

[Australian]It is.[/Australian]

12th November 2012, 05:09 AM	#41
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,071	Originally Posted by Alt+F4 Oh please. Yeah I agree a "War on Christmas" is not an appropriate use of the "war" as a defined word. War is armed conflict between nations or parties; both the War on Terror and the War on Drugs meet this definition. And it's legally irresponsible to use the term "war" lightly. For instance, insurance contracts do not cover acts of war. If you are injured by falling while decorating your Xmas tree, your homeowner's insurance can get out of paying by declaring you a casualty of the War on Xmas. By putting up a tree, you entered the lists, and as a combatant you're certainly not covered, you reckless warmonger, you!
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12th November 2012, 06:17 AM	#43
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,580	My local Tesco had their first Christmas display up at the start of October. That's a couple of weeks before they had their Halloween displays up. I quite like Christmas, but I think having it take up a quarter of the year may be a little excessive.
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12th November 2012, 06:55 AM	#44
RockNroll Thinker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Québec, Qc. Posts: 240	I for one absolutely love Christmas (and don’t mind the fact that it apparently gets longer each year). I get almost 3 weeks off work (digging into the vacation days I’ve saved during the year), I love to receive presents (and to give them too, I guess), I get to wear horrible kitschy sweaters and listen to Bing Crosby, and I have a socially acceptable excuse for being a gluttonous drunkard. I see no problem whatsoever with being a Christmas-celebrating atheist. It’s not like we have rules governing what we can and cannot do, besides not believing in magical tyrants. We don’t have to worry about angering the goddess Atheae by acknowledging a false god’s holidays Besides, all the best parts of Christmas are either secular, or taken from pagan religions nobody believes in anymore. I don’t feel like I’m losing anything by skipping the lame Jesussy parts (like stopping the party midway through to go to a boring midnight mass, for instance). As for the commercialisation of Christmas, I’m all for it. Unlike religion, commerce is actually useful to our society and greatly improves all our lives. Isn’t that worth celebrating?
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12th November 2012, 07:05 AM	#45
Gawdzilla 121.92-meter mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingy Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northern St. Louis County, Missouri. Posts: 13,441	Christmas is a reason to party in the early winter. (For the superior hemisphere, at any rate.) Anything else is mere detail.
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12th November 2012, 07:14 AM	#46
Barber Shop Critical Thinker Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 277	Originally Posted by jj Newtonmas? What kind of display? Falling apples? Christ-Hitch-Mas
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12th November 2012, 06:07 AM	#42
P.J. Denyer Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,129	Originally Posted by Vermonter I for one really like Chrismas lights and plan on putting them up pretty soon. I used to be bothered, but by now I'm used to see Christmas decorations up by the time Halloween has rolled around. Perhaps we could roll the two together and have a zombie Jesus and fake blood drinks and....... oh, wait a minute...........

12th November 2012, 07:15 AM	#47
Gawdzilla 121.92-meter mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingy Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northern St. Louis County, Missouri. Posts: 13,441	Originally Posted by Barber Shop Christ-Hitch-Mas St. Christopher of the Hitchens Day. Hitchslapmas. Whiskeynsmokesmas.
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12th November 2012, 10:18 AM	#48
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,071	Xmas is really just Walrustide anyway. And the great thing about Walrustide is that you can celebrate it however you like, St Walrus doesn't give a rat's damn about you. He dwells in blubbery glory in the Walrus Dimension, drinking blood and chewing up seals. Do what you like, won't bug St Walrus. Just don't cross him. Ever. He's a laissez faire, uninvolved member of the pantheon unless you piss him off. Then he's four tons of enraged supernatural killing machine, with no concept of pity or remorse. He'll welter in your gore and love every second of it. There's a carol about St Walrus. It begins "you better watch out".
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12th November 2012, 11:00 AM	#49
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,676	I have seen Christmas displays in stores as early as the first week of October in recent years.
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12th November 2012, 11:54 AM	#50
qayak Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,710	Originally Posted by Draca I don't agree with this. Costco for one goes both in early and out early for shopping seasons. Most Christmas items are out of Costco a couple of weeks before Christmas. The idea is for people to buy items FOR Christmas when it does come. Not to display Christmas in its season. Is everyone suppose to wait until the week before Christmas to run out and buy all the decorations and presents? Can you imagine how unbearable the stores would all be? Why is it so wrong to prepare for things ahead of time. Now if Costco was playing Christmas music and decorating the actual warehouse at the same time I would agree with you. That would be extending the season way to early, not just offering goods for people to buy in preparation. That's not what they're doing though. Tough that you don't agree. When I say this is what's wrong with Christmas you must agree or face my wrath! Forget all that logic ****, I want to complain and I want sympathy! Now... shall we try again? Oh, wait! My wife just yelled! We're off to Costco!
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12th November 2012, 05:55 PM	#51
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Please bear in mind that I have no problem at all with having a nice party on the darkest day of the year. I just can't stand the faux-joy that is forced upon everyone.
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12th November 2012, 06:11 PM	#52
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12th November 2012, 06:19 PM	#53
RedRatSnake Slithering Through life Join Date: May 2008 Location: Southie, Massachusetts. Posts: 1,625	Originally Posted by Craig4 My mother once threatened me with coal as a gift. I explained how I could use it to make an explosive. I never got coal. LMAO ~ I once got coal in my stocking at my grandparents house, I must have been about 7 or so, my sister got a hamster, I hated that thing.

12th November 2012, 06:25 PM	#54
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,931	Originally Posted by commandlinegamer That's nothing new. IIRC, Plato moaned about Xmas traders touting their wares earlier every year. And that was before Chris even showed up..........l.l.
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12th November 2012, 06:32 PM	#55
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Originally Posted by sonofthor happy festivus... For the rest of us! This!>http://www.festivusweb.com/ and now for the airing of grievances!
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13th November 2012, 04:07 AM	#56
OnlyTellsTruths Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,788	Originally Posted by Alt+F4 Oh please. Yeah I agree a "War on Christmas" is not an appropriate use of the "war" as a defined word. War is armed conflict between nations or parties; both the War on Terror and the War on Drugs meet this definition. Oh give me a break, the War on Drugs is a joke. The War on Terror is only slightly less of a joke. Both turned out to be wars on freedom in many ways. ETA: Also, how do you define the war on drugs as a "conflict between nations or parties"?? Surely if you think drug users and sellers are a "party" then christmas users and sellers would be a "party" as well..... The only difference I can see is that drugs are illegal in some countries. Illegal was not in your own definition "War is armed conflict between nations or parties", so I'm not sure why that would count.
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13th November 2012, 04:24 AM	#57
Marcus Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 1,840	Christmas is in full swing for me, in fact the deadline has already passed for people wishing to order custom jewelry boxes from me in time for The Day. I love Christmas.

13th November 2012, 04:30 AM	#58
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,421	Originally Posted by Cuddles My local Tesco had their first Christmas display up at the start of October. That's a couple of weeks before they had their Halloween displays up. I quite like Christmas, but I think having it take up a quarter of the year may be a little excessive. My daughter wanted us to get a second Halloween pumpkin, so she could carve one herself. We went back to Tesco the day before Halloween only to find their huge array of Halloween crap had magically changed overnight into Christmas crap.

13th November 2012, 05:00 AM	#59
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,071	Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge My daughter wanted us to get a second Halloween pumpkin, so she could carve one herself. We went back to Tesco the day before Halloween only to find their huge array of Halloween crap had magically changed overnight into Christmas crap. Carving a jack o'lantern out of the back of Frosty's head has a certain appeal.
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13th November 2012, 05:18 AM	#60
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,580	Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths Surely if you think drug users and sellers are a "party" then christmas users and sellers would be a "party" as well..... A Christmas party!
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13th November 2012, 06:13 AM	#61
mikeyx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,570	Originally Posted by jj There is no such thing as a war on Christmas. There is, however, a war on it not being Christmas 24/7, as evidenced by the fact I am already seeing lights, Christmas displays, advertisements, and "don't wait for black Friday" posters. There is a war, and the war is to extend Christmas to January 2. Enough, already. I'm tempted to say "boycott Christmas", but that's socially unacceptable. You're actually thinking og giftmas which is commonly mistaken for christmas by greedy idiots.
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13th November 2012, 07:39 AM	#62
Merton Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Montana, USA Posts: 576	Originally Posted by Draca I completely agree. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday for the reasons you give. Same here. Food, family, and football (for us Americans)! What more could you ask? Quote: Christmas has also been better since the family cut down on gift giving. Now we draw one family member's name for a gift exchange. The gift giving stress has been shredded and the holiday is now centered on the more important things. We've moved beyond that as well: no more gifts! It is so nice not to have to partake in this commercialist BS anymore. Now if I can only convince my work to do the same...
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13th November 2012, 07:51 AM	#63
Marcus Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 1,840	Originally Posted by Merton Same here. Food, family, and football (for us Americans)! What more could you ask? We've moved beyond that as well: no more gifts! It is so nice not to have to partake in this commercialist BS anymore. Now if I can only convince my work to do the same... That's sad, the gifts are the most fun part . Receiving them for the kids of course, but for the adults finding and giving them.

13th November 2012, 08:01 AM	#64
Merton Muse Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Montana, USA Posts: 576	Originally Posted by Marcus That's sad, the gifts are the most fun part . Receiving them for the kids of course, but for the adults finding and giving them. Well, we don't really have any kids: my only niece lives in California and other than one step-nephew who gets plenty of toys from his immediate family, there is no one under 30 in attendance. We just want to get together and relax.
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13th November 2012, 08:02 AM	#65
Dcdrac Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,672	In art class at school i did a cartoon called Father Christmas Meets the Hells Angels...
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13th November 2012, 08:14 AM	#66
P.J. Denyer Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,129	Originally Posted by Dcdrac In art class at school i did a cartoon called Father Christmas Meets the Hells Angels... A friend of mine wrote a short play called 'Christmas at the Jehovahs'

13th November 2012, 09:08 AM	#67
sackett Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,613	All the gift-giving at Christmas really exasperates me! Gift-getting, now that's a different ball of string.
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14th November 2012, 01:30 PM	#68
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Originally Posted by Soapy Sam This had already occurred by about 1708. Christmas has moved back through the year so far it has actually been lapped. What you will be forced to celebrate this December is in fact Christmas 2013. OMG! You're RIGHT!!!!!!
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14th November 2012, 01:32 PM	#69
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Originally Posted by Cuddles My local Tesco had their first Christmas display up at the start of October. That's a couple of weeks before they had their Halloween displays up. I quite like Christmas, but I think having it take up a quarter of the year may be a little excessive. Careful there, as Soapy Sam has pointed out, those displays are for Christmas 2013, the ones last year were for this winter!
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14th November 2012, 01:35 PM	#70
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Originally Posted by mikeyx You're actually thinking og giftmas which is commonly mistaken for christmas by greedy idiots. If there was a high-5 smiley, I'd be using it right now!
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14th November 2012, 01:40 PM	#71
Skeptical Greg Agave Wine Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Just past 'Resume Speed' Posts: 12,873	The ostentatious crap like the Mercedes, Santa Claus adds really piss me off.. Baby Jesus must be rolling in his grave... No - wait....
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15th November 2012, 09:54 AM	#72
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,931	Originally Posted by Dcdrac In art class at school i did a cartoon called Father Christmas Meets the Hells Angels... So.......who won?
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15th November 2012, 10:00 AM	#73
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,931	Originally Posted by Skeptical Greg The ostentatious crap like the Mercedes, Santa Claus adds really piss me off.. Baby Jesus must be rolling in his grave... No - wait.... Little Baby Jeebus lies a' mouldering in his grave but his troops go shambling on..........
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15th November 2012, 12:42 PM	#74
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,071	Santa would never drive a Mercedes. His wings would never fit inside, even folded. And his talons, perfectly adapted for ripping flesh and crushing skulls, would have difficulty with gearshifts and steering wheels. No, there is simply no vehicle better suited for Santa's transport than his own indestructible reptilian body. Remember that old carol, "In the Vast Shadow of His Wings Is Death and Fire "? I love Xmas.
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15th November 2012, 11:28 PM	#75
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Originally Posted by SezMe Well, the other possibility is that I'm getting all huffy over a tongue-in-cheek OP. Well more mocking the "War on Christmas" than tongue-in-cheek, but here is some of that, too, so it's just a war on war memes.
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