Aussie Soldiers sacked for killing kittens

a_unique_person · 1st July 2004, 04:10 PM

So there.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...?from=storylhs

Quote:

Six soldiers sacked yesterday for torturing and killing a litter of kittens had brought shame and discredit on the Australian Defence Force, an army spokesman said.

Their behaviour at an Easter Saturday drinking session at a Townsville barracks was well below expected standards, he said.

The RSPCA welcomed the decision. It had delivered justice for the kittens, a spokesman said.

The soldiers are able to appeal against the decision. Their discharge will be suspended until the appeal is dealt with.

Their treatment of four stray kittens at the Lavarack Barracks prompted nationwide outrage.

One kitten was dragged on a rope behind a motorcycle, then crushed under the tyre of a four-wheel-drive vehicle. Three others were doused with fuel and set alight.

RSPCA national president Hugh Wirth said the organisation now had a measure of satisfaction that proper justice had been delivered for the kittens.

"This was an appallingly barbaric act by those soldiers and the army is quite correct in that there's no place for such humans in the proud Australian army," he said.

Grammatron · 1st July 2004, 04:16 PM

I thought this was FARK for a second...

Virgil · 1st July 2004, 04:19 PM

they are going to kitty kat H!@#.

zakur · 1st July 2004, 04:28 PM

I blame Bush.

The Fool · 1st July 2004, 04:35 PM

I beieve there is a strong link between people who are capable of these sort of acts on animals and people who perpetrate atrocities on humans....I think many serial killers have histories of animal abuse... Certainly dismissal is appropriate. Although dragging them behind a motorcycle after dousing them in petrol and applying a match also appeals to me.

Blue Monk · 1st July 2004, 04:36 PM

That's hideous.

What a bunch of @--holes!

Shane Costello · 1st July 2004, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zakur:
I blame Bush.

Since we're on a feline theme Bush has been blamed for possible puma attacks in Ireland. That Bush!

Source

Can't find an exact link, but locals were miffed that a police helicopter wasn't forthcoming sooner. All such resources were tied up with GWB's visit to US-EU summit. Some locals went on record to say that if the puma harmed a living thing before the helicopter arrived on the scene, Bush should take sole responsibly.

Quote:

Originally posted by The Fool:
Certainly dismissal is appropriate. Although dragging them behind a motorcycle after dousing them in petrol and applying a match also appeals to me.

What a shocking thing to suggest.

Petrol is a finite resource I'll have you know.

If you like justice apportioned with a touch of irony then I would suggest feeding the culprits to half starved big cats.

zakur · 1st July 2004, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shane Costello
Since we're on a feline theme Bush has been blamed for possible puma attacks in Ireland. That Bush!

Source

Don't be silly. That 'puma' was likely just a stack of phone books that sneaked over from Scotland.

Virgil · 1st July 2004, 08:29 PM

they are bad aussies , bad people, bad, bad ,bad....

they should go to jail.

Virgil

The Fool · 1st July 2004, 10:12 PM

Maybe the kittens were plotting the downfall of western Civilization...Have you considered that option before you denigrate these proud and brave serviceman....?????

also, maybe the kittens attacked first.

Earthborn · 1st July 2004, 10:50 PM

The Geneva Convention does not apply to kittens, therefore the soldiers did nothing wrong.

Sure it is cruel to torture kittens, but if by torturing them you gain information that saves thousands of people, isn't it worth it?

The Fool · 1st July 2004, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Earthborn
The Geneva Convention does not apply to kittens, therefore the soldiers did nothing wrong.

Sure it is cruel to torture kittens, but if by torturing them you gain information that saves thousands of people, isn't it worth it?

Brilliant! I never thought of that.... Do you have any links indicating if any of the kittens talked?

Earthborn · 1st July 2004, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Fool
Do you have any links indicating if any of the kittens talked?

Of course not. What ever the kittens said is sensitive military intelligence. You can't expect that to be freely available.

You just have to trust the government. If the kittens didn't have any important information, it wouldn't have tortured them. Australian soldiers are not a bunch of undisciplined trigger-happy, bitch-slapping yahoos you seem to be willing to believe they are.

They are very disciplined, especially those in the Kitten Brigade.

crackmonkey · 4th July 2004, 08:37 PM

Sarcasm - the last refuge of the banal.

Zep · 4th July 2004, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zakur
I blame Bush.

Yes, it can get tough out in the Australian bush. Makes you lose sight of reality, perspective goes all wonky... It can drive a sane man mad, y'know...

[walks off mumbling about white whales and such...]

4th July 2004, 10:57 PM

I think you're defining 'torture' differently than any rational person would. What they did to those kittens was totally lightweight compared to real torture that's done to real Americans. They could have done a thousand times worse before the kittens felt any pain at all!

And whoever thought of an RSPCA? Humane solutions to such animals is simply coddling creatures that should be eradicated. Those kittens deserved what they got because they weren't Christian. You really just want to give those animals a radio station and all they'll do is spread lies about America.

The Fool · 5th July 2004, 12:28 AM

Kittens....they hate us because we are free.

BillyTK · 5th July 2004, 01:03 AM

Co-incidently enough, our youngest cat (barely out of kittenhood), brought a nestling this morning. So much for the species of peace.

Zep · 5th July 2004, 01:43 AM

OK, JUST BACK UP, TURN AROUND, PUT YOUR PAWS ON THE WALL, AND SPREAD 'EM!!

zakur · 6th July 2004, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Fool
Kittens....they hate us because we are free.

Wow! I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks.

Tmy · 6th July 2004, 07:56 AM

To be fair the soilders thought that they were aboriginal kittens. In which case killing them wouldve been legal.

gnome · 6th July 2004, 08:10 AM

How ever did I sleep last night, knowing that my enemy's kittens were suffering, and liberals were angry about it?

Very, very well.
[/American]

Giz · 6th July 2004, 09:00 AM

Who let the cat out of the bag?

-=Vagrant=- · 15th July 2004, 12:48 PM

*die Aussies, die*

signed: da girlfriend

-=Vagrant=- · 15th July 2004, 02:08 PM

...nevermind

AtheistArchon · 15th July 2004, 03:37 PM

- Has the world suddenly gone cruelty-crazy on me or something? This is the second case of cat burning I've stumbled across in a week, the first one being videotaped by two youngsters for kicks.

- WTF is wrong with people? WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?

1st July 2004, 04:10 PM	#1
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mt Disappointment Posts: 33,338	Aussie Soldiers sacked for killing kittens So there. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...?from=storylhs Quote: Six soldiers sacked yesterday for torturing and killing a litter of kittens had brought shame and discredit on the Australian Defence Force, an army spokesman said. Their behaviour at an Easter Saturday drinking session at a Townsville barracks was well below expected standards, he said. The RSPCA welcomed the decision. It had delivered justice for the kittens, a spokesman said. The soldiers are able to appeal against the decision. Their discharge will be suspended until the appeal is dealt with. Their treatment of four stray kittens at the Lavarack Barracks prompted nationwide outrage. One kitten was dragged on a rope behind a motorcycle, then crushed under the tyre of a four-wheel-drive vehicle. Three others were doused with fuel and set alight. RSPCA national president Hugh Wirth said the organisation now had a measure of satisfaction that proper justice had been delivered for the kittens. "This was an appallingly barbaric act by those soldiers and the army is quite correct in that there's no place for such humans in the proud Australian army," he said.
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1st July 2004, 04:19 PM	#3
Virgil Muse Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 682	they are going to kitty kat H!@#.
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1st July 2004, 04:28 PM	#4
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1st July 2004, 04:35 PM	#5
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	I beieve there is a strong link between people who are capable of these sort of acts on animals and people who perpetrate atrocities on humans....I think many serial killers have histories of animal abuse... Certainly dismissal is appropriate. Although dragging them behind a motorcycle after dousing them in petrol and applying a match also appeals to me.
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Blue Monk Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,772	That's hideous. What a bunch of @--holes!
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1st July 2004, 05:37 PM	#7
Shane Costello Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,235	Quote: Originally posted by zakur: I blame Bush. Since we're on a feline theme Bush has been blamed for possible puma attacks in Ireland. That Bush! Source Can't find an exact link, but locals were miffed that a police helicopter wasn't forthcoming sooner. All such resources were tied up with GWB's visit to US-EU summit. Some locals went on record to say that if the puma harmed a living thing before the helicopter arrived on the scene, Bush should take sole responsibly. Quote: Originally posted by The Fool: Certainly dismissal is appropriate. Although dragging them behind a motorcycle after dousing them in petrol and applying a match also appeals to me. What a shocking thing to suggest. Petrol is a finite resource I'll have you know. If you like justice apportioned with a touch of irony then I would suggest feeding the culprits to half starved big cats.

1st July 2004, 08:17 PM	#8
zakur Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,265	Quote: Originally posted by Shane Costello Since we're on a feline theme Bush has been blamed for possible puma attacks in Ireland. That Bush! Source Don't be silly. That 'puma' was likely just a stack of phone books that sneaked over from Scotland.
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1st July 2004, 08:29 PM	#9
Virgil Muse Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 682	they are bad aussies , bad people, bad, bad ,bad.... they should go to jail. Virgil
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1st July 2004, 10:12 PM	#10
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	Maybe the kittens were plotting the downfall of western Civilization...Have you considered that option before you denigrate these proud and brave serviceman....????? also, maybe the kittens attacked first.
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1st July 2004, 10:50 PM	#11
Earthborn Terrestrial Intelligence Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Terra Firma Posts: 5,648	The Geneva Convention does not apply to kittens, therefore the soldiers did nothing wrong. Sure it is cruel to torture kittens, but if by torturing them you gain information that saves thousands of people, isn't it worth it?
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1st July 2004, 11:32 PM	#12
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	Quote: Originally posted by Earthborn The Geneva Convention does not apply to kittens, therefore the soldiers did nothing wrong. Sure it is cruel to torture kittens, but if by torturing them you gain information that saves thousands of people, isn't it worth it? Brilliant! I never thought of that.... Do you have any links indicating if any of the kittens talked?
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1st July 2004, 11:55 PM	#13
Earthborn Terrestrial Intelligence Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Terra Firma Posts: 5,648	Quote: Originally posted by The Fool Do you have any links indicating if any of the kittens talked? Of course not. What ever the kittens said is sensitive military intelligence. You can't expect that to be freely available. You just have to trust the government. If the kittens didn't have any important information, it wouldn't have tortured them. Australian soldiers are not a bunch of undisciplined trigger-happy, bitch-slapping yahoos you seem to be willing to believe they are. They are very disciplined, especially those in the Kitten Brigade.
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4th July 2004, 08:37 PM	#14
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4th July 2004, 09:25 PM	#15
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Quote: Originally posted by zakur I blame Bush. Yes, it can get tough out in the Australian bush. Makes you lose sight of reality, perspective goes all wonky... It can drive a sane man mad, y'know... [walks off mumbling about white whales and such...]
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4th July 2004, 10:57 PM	#16
evildave Guest Posts: n/a	I think you're defining 'torture' differently than any rational person would. What they did to those kittens was totally lightweight compared to real torture that's done to real Americans. They could have done a thousand times worse before the kittens felt any pain at all! And whoever thought of an RSPCA? Humane solutions to such animals is simply coddling creatures that should be eradicated. Those kittens deserved what they got because they weren't Christian. You really just want to give those animals a radio station and all they'll do is spread lies about America.
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5th July 2004, 12:28 AM	#17
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	Kittens....they hate us because we are free.
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5th July 2004, 01:03 AM	#18
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6th July 2004, 07:52 AM	#20
zakur Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,265	Quote: Originally posted by The Fool Kittens....they hate us because we are free. Wow! I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks.
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Tmy Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 6,489	To be fair the soilders thought that they were aboriginal kittens. In which case killing them wouldve been legal.
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6th July 2004, 08:10 AM	#22
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