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Old 9th March 2014, 10:28 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
There has NEVER been a fake disaster or crash of the sort you're so fond of fantasizing about.
Each case is of course unique, so what you say here is basically a tautology. How am I supposed to argue with that?

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Old 9th March 2014, 10:36 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
The lack thereof you mean. It may seem like sadomasochism to post a thread like this, but it's actually just that I find the incident very suspicious.
Trouble is people like you find the scent of sulfur suspicious while standing next to someone who lit a match.

Literally anything is suspicious to the unintelligent, drooling idiots who subscribe to and invent these theories.

It's only a mystery because we don't know. And we only don't know because we're not done looking.
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Old 9th March 2014, 10:49 AM   #83
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One wonders if; hypothetically, Anders family and friends were killed in some high profile event, he would be ok with us claiming that they never existed in the first place, and accused him of being a gov't paid crisis actor? Would he be ok with CTs calling him up and harassing him?
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Old 9th March 2014, 10:49 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by Hans View Post
When you need attention just say something unfounded and the adults here will correct you..........
Irrelevant. He's not interested in any corrections, because that would mean he might accidentally learn something. That's not why he's here.

AL is a demonstrated liar and confirmed troll who, like a monkey flinging waste from the safety of its cage, will say any idiotic and deliberately offensive thing for the sole purpose of getting the grown-ups to pay attention to him. Don't indulge the liar; don't feed the troll.
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Old 9th March 2014, 10:54 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Trouble is people like you find the scent of sulfur suspicious while standing next to someone who lit a match.

Literally anything is suspicious to the unintelligent, drooling idiots who subscribe to and invent these theories.

It's only a mystery because we don't know. And we only don't know because we're not done looking.
Is it, as mainstream media says, that the 'mystery deepens' about the incident, or is it more signs of fakery? The jury is out, for a walk.
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Old 9th March 2014, 11:06 AM   #86
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That did it. I routinely clear my ignore list from time to time. After all, on occasion someone comes round and starts to make sense. Anders is usually one of the first to make it back. I think I can safely make it permanent this time. I can take idiocy, but tastelesness as a disaster seems to unfold is just too much for my stomack.

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Old 9th March 2014, 11:21 AM   #87
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Media is suspiciously silent about the 3 alleged American victims. Here is one of the few reports so far:

"The name of Philip Wood, 50, is among 239 people identified on a passenger manifest provided by the airline. Two others with American passports are listed as Nicole Meng, 4, and Yan Zhang, age 2.

Wood’s ex-wife confirmed the family’s fears in a Facebook post on Saturday afternoon." -- http://news.yahoo.com/american-fathe...205115030.html

Confirmed by a Facebook post?

Here is another one:

"Philip Wood's confirmed LinkedIn page lists him as a Technical Storage Executive at IBM Malaysia." -- http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pb...AP01/303099974

Confirmed by a LinkedIn page?
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Old 9th March 2014, 11:22 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
Is it, as mainstream media says, that the 'mystery deepens' about the incident, or is it more signs of fakery? The jury is out, for a walk.
Jury's not out for you though, is it? Nope. You know already who did it. I can't tell with you - is it teh jooze? Illumniati?

240 people dead? Who cares - so long as you get your time in the sun. Such a sad pathetic little creature.
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Old 9th March 2014, 11:29 AM   #89
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
You know already who did it.
Not the Vatican directly it seems, since the Jesuit(?) shills at the Cluesforum haven't posted anything about the incident yet as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
Each case is of course unique, so what you say here is basically a tautology. How am I supposed to argue with that?
You're not supposed to argue with it, you're supposed to learn from and realize how offensive on both a moral and intellectual level your unbridled glee at the death of people is.
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Old 9th March 2014, 11:30 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
The lack thereof you mean. It may seem like sadomasochism to post a thread like this, but it's actually just that I find the incident very suspicious.
So, it's not as if your suspicions have value. Tell, if you are satisfied who is helped? If you're not who is hurt?
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Old 9th March 2014, 11:36 AM   #92
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Originally Posted by JoeBentley View Post
You're not supposed to argue with it, you're supposed to learn from and realize how offensive on both a moral and intellectual level your unbridled glee at the death of people is.
It may be politically correct to swallow all media stories hook, line and sinker. It's not rational however.

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Old 9th March 2014, 11:49 AM   #93
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
So, it's not as if your suspicions have value. Tell, if you are satisfied who is helped? If you're not who is hurt?
We need to look at the incident rationally. I will wait with letting my heart go out to anybody hurt by the incident until I can confirm that it actually was a real event. At the moment indications point to the incident being a huge hoax.
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Old 9th March 2014, 11:51 AM   #94
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
It may be politically correct to swallow all media stories hook, line and sinker. It's not rational however.
Only one response to Anders "It's not rational,however"




THis thread does furnish absolute proof,hownever, that Anders is not even a sincere conspiracy loon but a troll,pure and simple.

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Old 9th March 2014, 12:07 PM   #95
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Hey! Could the incident be a New World Order move? The 9/11 attacks were focused on the U.S. and to some extent the rest of the western world. This Asian PsyOp seems global in scope.

So, what, then, is the purpose of the event? To make the whole world's media and politicians etc compromised! Because no authority anywhere in the world basically will dare to tell the truth. So the public powers, experts and authorities all over the world will be forced to do a coverup.

So now the shadow powers can tell the whole global public power structure: Implement our New World Order agenda, or else we will expose your lies to eagerly awaiting angry masses.
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Old 9th March 2014, 12:08 PM   #96
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
We need to look at the incident rationally. I will wait with letting my heart go out to anybody hurt by the incident until I can confirm that it actually was a real event. At the moment indications point to the incident being a huge hoax.
So what you're saying it doesn't matter one way or the other if you're satisfied or not. Got it.
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Old 9th March 2014, 12:13 PM   #97
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So what you're saying it doesn't matter one way or the other if you're satisfied or not. Got it.
I'm not infallible, like the Pope. Only if I'm satisfied for the correct reasons does it have rational bearing.
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
At the moment indications point to the incident being a huge hoax.
Pot, kettle.

I'm out.
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Old 9th March 2014, 12:29 PM   #99
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"Security and aviation experts continued to offer starkly disparate theories about what happened to the missing plane, a measure both of how unusual it was for it to disappear from radar without any distress call as well as of how little information the Malaysian authorities have released." -- http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/wo...t.html?hp&_r=0
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THis thread is in such bad taste, and ANders blind specutlation before we have any facts about it so outrageous that I doing what I probably should have done a long time ago:

Welcome to Ignore, Anders.
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
I'm not infallible, like the Pope. Only if I'm satisfied for the correct reasons does it have rational bearing.
My point is that if you're satisfied no one cares and if you're unsatisfied no one cares.
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Old 9th March 2014, 12:38 PM   #102
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My point is that if you're satisfied no one cares and if you're unsatisfied no one cares.
That's what I wrote: Only if I'm satisfied for the correct reasons does it have rational bearing. So we agree to agree on that.
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That did it. I routinely clear my ignore list from time to time. After all, on occasion someone comes round and starts to make sense. Anders is usually one of the first to make it back. I think I can safely make it permanent this time. I can take idiocy, but tastelesness as a disaster seems to unfold is just too much for my stomack.

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Looks like someone is trying to take away John Edward's "Biggest Douche in the Universe" award.
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Old 9th March 2014, 01:21 PM   #105
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I'm not infallible, like the Pope. Only if I'm satisfied for the correct reasons does it have rational bearing.
I am surprised you are still able to garner serious responses. Most here in the CT forum know you post ironically, yet many still reply as though they think you are serious. Still, fun for the lurkers.
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It had to happen; some buffoon screaming "hoax" when an airliner crashes

For some people, the whole world must be one big hoax.

Anders, Air Traffic Control is a lot more complicatd that you might think and certainly much more complicated than how it is depicted in the movies. Aircraft in flight are not always covered by radar because control zones (properly called Controlled Traffic Regions or CTRs) don't necessarily overlap. An airliner somewhere out in the middle of the Atlantic might not be in anyone's CTR, therefore not on any kind of ATC radar, and even in the unlikely event that they were on someone else's radar (say, a ship at sea), they would not have the flight's IFF codes programmed in, so they could appear on that radar along with a dozen other blips and no-one would realise who they are.

South Asia is quite a busy airspace. Once an aircraft has left the their departure CTR, no-one will be "controlling them" and they would simply be expected to arrive at their next CTR probably a way-point or their destination. It is not inconceivable that the civilian ATC would not detect an airliner turning around (out of radar range) and the military ATC will be busy controlling their own aircraft, and while their radar equipment might detect such a turn, they may not even notice unless someone specifically asks them to go back over the record and have a look.
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I honestly cannot remember why this dude ended up on my "ignore" list.

From the snippets I see here, it was a wise decision and my life is better for it.
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
Hey! Could the incident be a New World Order move? The 9/11 attacks were focused on the U.S. and to some extent the rest of the western world. This Asian PsyOp seems global in scope.

So, what, then, is the purpose of the event? To make the whole world's media and politicians etc compromised! Because no authority anywhere in the world basically will dare to tell the truth. So the public powers, experts and authorities all over the world will be forced to do a coverup.

So now the shadow powers can tell the whole global public power structure: Implement our New World Order agenda, or else we will expose your lies to eagerly awaiting angry masses.

Now, that is some serious trolling...lol

Could you come up with something original like a plane suffered a technical failure and crashed?
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Now, that is some serious trolling...lol

Could you come up with something original like a plane suffered a technical failure and crashed?

He could, but his Smurf Cabal handlers would use their sooper seekrit Vatican mind control technology to prevent him posting anything about it, because it would interfere with his mission of making conspiracy theorists look ridiculous.
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So the supposed plane is supposed to have turned around and then disintegrated in mid air. Is anyone really buying that story?
Shame. On. You.
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This popped up on my facebook this morning. Apparently the crash was to kill off the electric car.


http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014...d-2432738.html

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... even in the unlikely event that they were on someone else's radar (say, a ship at sea), they would not have the flight's IFF codes programmed in, so they could appear on that radar along with a dozen other blips and no-one would realise who they are.
According to military radar, the plane turned back. Are you questioning that report? Also, do you believe the plane disintegrated in mid air before or after the supposed U-turn?
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It never takes long for them to come out of the woodwork.
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Oh but you see he knows because his Andervisionator allows him to see that which mere mortals cannot...like no real humans were involved

It's truly amazing

Anders why not question the existence of Malaysia too.....lol
Yes, it a trick name meaning Bad Asia!!!!!!!
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According to military radar, the plane turned back. Are you questioning that report? Also, do you believe the plane disintegrated in mid air before or after the supposed U-turn?
Not necessarily. I don;t think there is anything untoward in the military ATC saying that the plane turned back and the civilian ATC not knowing this.

There is also nothing unusual in a plane turning back when it was in trouble. I have been on a flight that did exactly that (an Ansett ASA flight from Adelaide to Perth) back in the 1980's.
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It is an unfathomable mystery to me why you lot don't just ignore this trash and let the thread sink to the bottom, encumbered by nothing more than the OP.

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It is an unfathomable mystery to me why you lot don't just ignore this trash and let the thread sink to the bottom, encumbered by nothing more than the OP.

Rolfe.
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"(CNN) -- Nothing gets conspiracy theorists going more than a passenger plane crashing under mysterious circumstances.

In the absence of hard information to explain such disasters, people look for answers, and the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 early Saturday could prompt the same response." -- http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/09/op...html?hpt=hp_c2
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
The stolen passports seem real, yet the incident itself smacks of a hoax, as a media diversion from the Ukraine situation.

"Malaysia Airlines flight MH 370

... After the airline released a manifest of the 239 people on the plane, Austria denied that one of its citizens was on the flight as the list had stated. The Austrian citizen was safe and sound, and his passport had been stolen two years ago, Austrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Weiss said.

Similarly, Italy's foreign ministry confirmed that no Italians were on the flight, even though an Italian was listed on the manifest. Malaysian officials said they were aware of reports that the Italian's passport was also stolen but had not confirmed it." -- http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/08/wo...html?hpt=hp_t1

"(Reuters) - Radar tracking a missing Malaysia Airlines flight indicated that it may have turned back from its scheduled route to Beijing before disappearing" -- http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0M605320140309

Only now they found out that the airliner had turned back? Surely those who tracked the plane's flight path live would have noticed that.
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Old 10th March 2014, 02:32 AM   #120
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Originally Posted by Anders Lindman View Post
Notice the numerous so-called 'mysteries' popping up in the news reporting. Those are deliberately planted as smokescreens and media attention baits, such as:
So you find it surprising that details of some events are unknown ?

Wow, shocking.
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