Bushfire in Australia and "Bush"fires in Iraq

[crocodile deathroll]

Much of the Australian wilderness is on fire with the fire prone conditions in a century, but much that wilderness is fire dependant anyway and come next spring will be a carpet of wildflowers and in five years time they will be healthier than ever before.

But By George that is nothing to the "Bush"fires that are about to hit Iraq with more cruise missiles rained down in a single day that the entire gulf war. We are not going to stop the America war machine no matter what the UN inspector's report.

Of course America is really run by oil barons and the oil is all they want. But what will be the consequences of a scorched earth policy when all the oil fields which are far more extensive in Kuwait are all set alight well before the air campaign is complete? Will the west be forced to go in their to straighten up the environment calamity?

Unlike Australia these "Bush"fires are not natural and do not expect the desert to bloom with wild flowers this spring when it is all finished.

[Roadtoad]

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Originally posted by crocodile deathroll
Much of the Australian wilderness is on fire with the fire prone conditions in a century, but much that wilderness is fire dependant anyway and come next spring will be a carpet of wildflowers and in five years time they will be healthier than ever before.

But By George that is nothing to the "Bush"fires that are about to hit Iraq with more cruise missiles rained down in a single day that the entire gulf war. We are not going to stop the America war machine no matter what the UN inspector's report.

Of course America is really run by oil barons and the oil is all they want. But what will be the consequences of a scorched earth policy when all the oil fields which are far more extensive in Kuwait are all set alight well before the air campaign is complete? Will the west be forced to go in their to straighten up the environment calamity?

Unlike Australia these "Bush"fires are not natural and do not expect the desert to bloom with wild flowers this spring when it is all finished.

Perhaps before you shoot your mouth off next time, you may want to peruse other threads on this very issue. Danish Dynamite and others have expressed the same sort of thing far more eloquently, and with a better grasp of the facts.

You may want to think about this: Some of us reading your smug remarks have kids in harm's way. We no more want our children in danger than you want to see harm coming to the Iraqis. (Believe it or not, none of us wants to see Iraqis dying, either.) Sorry you seem to think we're so convinced there's nothing more there than oil. I would have thought someone as "enlightened" as yourself would have had a broader opinion of Americans like myself. I guess not. I guess that makes you as bigoted as the people you criticize.

[crocodile deathroll]

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Originally posted by Roadtoad


Perhaps before you shoot your mouth off next time, you may want to peruse other threads on this very issue. Danish Dynamite and others have expressed the same sort of thing far more eloquently, and with a better grasp of the facts.

You may want to think about this: Some of us reading your smug remarks have kids in harm's way. We no more want our children in danger than you want to see harm coming to the Iraqis. (Believe it or not, none of us wants to see Iraqis dying, either.) Sorry you seem to think we're so convinced there's nothing more there than oil. I would have thought someone as "enlightened" as yourself would have had a broader opinion of Americans like myself. I guess not. I guess that makes you as bigoted as the people you criticize.

Here are some facts about his family background concerning his grandfather Prescott Bush:

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In 1937, Prescott Bush Sr.'s investment firm set up a deal for the Luftwaffe so it could obtain tetraethyl lead for fuel with which to lead the Nazi invasion of Europe, which Prescott Bush heartily supported. Whereas Hitler's scapegoats for Germany's ills were the Jews, Bush hated both the Jews and Negroes in America - and was happy to support the Third Reich. In 1942, three firms with which Prescott Bush was associated were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act. Many of America's top corporations, including the oil giants, were doing the same thing.

[Roadtoad]

Why don't you answer the remark, instead of dumping more garbage?

So George W's grandad was a pig. Nothing new there. Keep in mind your evidence contradicts you. George's kinsman lost the companies because of TRADING WITH THE ENEMY! He was slammed. He damned well deserved to be. Sounds to me the oil companies lost one in this instance. So much for them running the country.

Sorry, I'll stick with Shanek and others. If I disagree with them, I'm not treated like a freak. When you can contribute something that goes beyond the same old innuendo, I'd like to read it. I get enough conspiracy theory from talk radio, thank you.

[Starshark]

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Originally posted by cavin
OK...
So once again we have to deal with the Australia is perfect myth.

they can only get away with it because most Americans don't know as much about Australia as they think they do about the US

Sort of like people in Two Rivers Wisconsin wondering why since they've heard on New York city, they haven't heard of Two Rivers Wisconsin.

Anyway, the incredible tolerance and great integration of the native peoples in Australia should reassure the world that indeed Australia should be the moral arbitrator for the world.
I mean...not even one mail delivery person for goodness sake!
Read Bill Bryson.
Read the post on AUstralia for beginners and let your fellow countrymen and women educate you about your country.

And if Canberra burns, well, wasn't there a kind of high up leader who refused to live there???

So, yes we are totally motivated by oil, though I am sure you drive your solar powered car to work every day, not taking that old oil burning bus.

You buy it, you support it.

That's the funny thing about yankees that take the "Well, Australia isn't perfect either!" line. You seem to think that just because people criticise your country, they are by default saying their own country is better.

No, we're just criticising YOUR country.

As for 'you buy it, you support it...' Bollocks.

And anyway, I take an electric train to work.

[Starshark]

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Originally posted by Roadtoad


Perhaps before you shoot your mouth off next time, you may want to peruse other threads on this very issue. Danish Dynamite and others have expressed the same sort of thing far more eloquently, and with a better grasp of the facts.

You may want to think about this: Some of us reading your smug remarks have kids in harm's way. We no more want our children in danger than you want to see harm coming to the Iraqis. (Believe it or not, none of us wants to see Iraqis dying, either.) Sorry you seem to think we're so convinced there's nothing more there than oil. I would have thought someone as "enlightened" as yourself would have had a broader opinion of Americans like myself. I guess not. I guess that makes you as bigoted as the people you criticize.

"kids in harm's way?" What are you on about? Do you have kids serving in missions in Iraq or something?

[panduh]

Hey. You know, Australia is sending troops and military machinery over to the Gulf too. If the war goes down, at least a part of it will be accomplished with Australian men, equipment, and moral support. Your hands are not clean.

Bush's job would be harder without allies. What are you going to do about the leadership in your country?

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Originally posted by crocodile deathroll
Much of the Australian wilderness is on fire with the fire prone conditions in a century, but much that wilderness is fire dependant anyway and come next spring will be a carpet of wildflowers and in five years time they will be healthier than ever before.

But By George that is nothing to the "Bush"fires that are about to hit Iraq with more cruise missiles rained down in a single day that the entire gulf war. We are not going to stop the America war machine no matter what the UN inspector's report.

Of course America is really run by oil barons and the oil is all they want. But what will be the consequences of a scorched earth policy when all the oil fields which are far more extensive in Kuwait are all set alight well before the air campaign is complete? Will the west be forced to go in their to straighten up the environment calamity?

Unlike Australia these "Bush"fires are not natural and do not expect the desert to bloom with wild flowers this spring when it is all finished.

[Roadtoad]

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Originally posted by Starshark


"kids in harm's way?" What are you on about? Do you have kids serving in missions in Iraq or something?

Yes.

[shanek]

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Originally posted by Roadtoad
Yes.

I wish you the best of luck and hope your children remain safe. It's a shame that not everyone reacts as if it were the lives of their own loved ones on the line. (You'll notice how Georgie II never got drafted during Vietnam, for example. The politicians are always willing to exempt their loved ones.)

[crocodile deathroll]

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Originally posted by panduh
Hey. You know, Australia is sending troops and military machinery over to the Gulf too. If the war goes down, at least a part of it will be accomplished with Australian men, equipment, and moral support. Your hands are not clean.

Bush's job would be harder without allies. What are you going to do about the leadership in your country?

Australia is sending troups because of an insane and hasty decision made by the Liberal gonvernment before any report is delivered by the United Nations.

Because of that I will not be voting for them in the next election. I am voting labor -- period

[Starshark]

CD- You loser! Labour sold out years ago. Vote Greens.

I voted Democrats once... until they sold out on the GST. YOU DIE MEG LEES!

[crocodile deathroll]

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Originally posted by Starshark
CD- You loser! Labour sold out years ago. Vote Greens.

I voted Democrats once... until they sold out on the GST. YOU DIE MEG LEES!

I have reconsidered it so greens it is!!, but I did like Mark Laythem classic quote in describing our PM John Howard as an "ass licker" for George Bush

[Starshark]

True. And like him or not, you have to give him props for using Parliamentary priviliege (geez... I think I spelt that right...) to point out what a hypocrite Piers Akerman is.


Piers Akerman. Advocates the death penalty for drug dealers. Calls drug users scum every chance he gets. Wants harsher drug laws.

Coke sniffer.

What's wrong with this picture?

[crocodile deathroll]

IMO friendly fire is like calling pack rape "Friendly ***********". But what is happen in the operation "X" when a whole battallion of Brits is killed in one of these incidents and a huge tide of public protest will force the Blair Gonvernment to its alliance with the US?