God teaches little girl a lesson

Gastric ReFlux · 15th October 2004, 07:39 AM

Rapture Ready folks praise their awesome Gawd!

Let's just hope some born-agains witnessed to the little girl, so she might appreciate just how merciful God was to her shoulder, face and lungs.

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 07:45 AM

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Cool beans! God is awesome!

In another thread, someone asks what people would do should they become God. I would like to state that if I ever attain to the powers of godhood, I will personally manufacture a hell of eternal torment for any person who utters those words quoted above. In fact, I will expand eternity to greater lengths, just to ensure that such words do not go insufficiently punished. New depths of pain and horror undreamt of are not enough to express my disgust with the statement "Cool beans! God is awesome!".

Gastric ReFlux · 15th October 2004, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
In another thread, someone asks what people would do should they become God. I would like to state that if I ever attain to the powers of godhood, I will personally manufacture a hell of eternal torment for any person who utters those words quoted above. In fact, I will expand eternity to greater lengths, just to ensure that such words do not go insufficiently punished. New depths of pain and horror undreamt of are not enough to express my disgust with the statement "Cool beans! God is awesome!".

I could go for that.

It's a bizarre world some of these people live in. There are no accidents, everything is an act of God. There's an AM Christian station I can pick up with my car radio and one of my favorite programs to listen to is "The Gospel Hour" which plays the sermons of the late Dr. Oliver B. Greene. Strangely, the show is only a half-hour long, so shouldn't it be The Gospel Half-Hour?

Anyhow, the sermon yesterday had Dr. Greene talking about how God's justice in the OT was swift, whereas in the modern age it doesn't seem like is striking down infidels left and right. But Dr Greene pointed out that God always pays in full, and what we think are accidents, really aren't accidents. Mmm hmmm, that's right, I mean to tell you that those accidents are God getting the infidels and blasphemers.

Another fascinating show is "In His Grip" with Dr. Chuck Betters. Yesterday he was ranting about the Muslims worshipping a false god, and he asked, "What possible explanation is there for such people?"

The answer was...

Satan!

Yaotl · 15th October 2004, 07:58 AM

So when I misplace my wallet, I can blame god for it?

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by Yaotl
So when I misplace my wallet, I can blame god for it?

Are you suggesting that God is sneaking your wallet, looking for beer money? Because, like, his mom totally gave him that cash, it's not yours, dude. I swear. No, God wasn't drinking. He was having a soda, but some guy spilled beer on him, which is why he smells like beer. Honestly.

Yaotl · 15th October 2004, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Are you suggesting that God is sneaking your wallet, looking for beer money? Because, like, his mom totally gave him that cash, it's not yours, dude. I swear. No, God wasn't drinking. He was having a soda, but some guy spilled beer on him, which is why he smells like beer. Honestly.

And how do you explain the funky smell on his clothes? I don't want god hanging out with those kids down the street anymore, and if my keys are gone when I come back, there's a god that's not going to have any x-box to play.

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by Yaotl
And how do you explain the funky smell on his clothes? I don't want god hanging out with those kids down the street anymore, and if my keys are gone when I come back, there's a god that's not going to have any x-box to play.

When God grows up, he's going to teach you a lesson. Learn from what happened to the little girl, and consider--they're praising God for going light on her.

Yaotl · 15th October 2004, 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
When God grows up, he's going to teach you a lesson. Learn from what happened to the little girl, and consider--they're praising God for going light on her.

Hmm, good point. Okay, but only 1 hour of x-box instead of 2.

Gastric ReFlux · 15th October 2004, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
When God grows up, he's going to teach you a lesson. Learn from what happened to the little girl, and consider--they're praising God for going light on her.

Yeah, I bet if she doesn't shape up, next time He's gonna break her legs too! Maybe have her get hit by a Hummer instead of just a minivan.

Gastric ReFlux · 15th October 2004, 08:33 AM

Before I forget, I win! Debate's over.

El Greco · 15th October 2004, 08:42 AM

A proof of these people's idiocy is that while in a deadly accident they admit they can't understand God's mysterious ways, when a accident is warded off they suddenly can understand perfectly God's works and motives. How do they know that God didn't save that girl only to become a suicide bomber later in her life ? Why don't they praise the Lord after a tragic accident since allegedly that was also part of his greater plan ?

jimmygun · 15th October 2004, 09:03 AM

And god said let there be light and there was light. And it was good. And god said I'm going to cause a coincidence and he made the little girl run out under a minivan. And it was done. Now god secretlyspoke to a truck driver and told him to return to his house to get his wallet and he did. And god saw the truck driver rescue the little girl who was nearly crushed to death. And it was good. And the people stood around and praised the coincidence, thanking god for making it happen and it was good.

And in the meantime, while god was causing this coincidence twenty five thousand children around the world starved to death.

Yaotl · 15th October 2004, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by jimmygun
And god said let there be light and there was light. And it was good. And god said I'm going to cause a coincidence and he made the little girl run out under a minivan. And it was done. Now god secretly spoke to a truck driver and told him to return to his house to get his wallet and he did. And god saw the truck driver resque the little girl who was nearly crushed to death. And it was good. And the people stood around and praised the coincidence, thanking god for making it happen and it was good.

And in the meantime, while god was causing this coincidence twenty five thousand children around the world starved to death.

No, no, since god is omnipresent, he knew and could have helped the 25,000 kids, he just didn't want to bother. Now where did I put my wallet...

Stitch · 15th October 2004, 09:18 AM

I think they seem to have missed the bit up front where satan tempted her out in to the road so she could be run over. God didn't do it all you know, he just did the saving

You really must remember this is a partnership the god and satan have going, just to keep people really guessing

Gastric ReFlux · 15th October 2004, 09:32 AM

I swear sometimes these people live in an alternate reality:

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Let me tell you all something scary that happened to me this morning. My 17 year old daughter Melissa wakes me up (about 4:30am) and says, "Mom, where's Katie??!?!!" I said, "In bed where else?" I should have known by the panicked tone in her voice Katie (3 years old) obviously not there. Katie jumps out of her closet and says, "Here I am!" and is laughing. Apparently she had a little accident in bed and was changing her panties. Later Melissa and I were talking and she said, "Mom. I thought the rapture had happened and we had not been taken." We prayed right then and there so there would be no doubt in our minds next time

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=170614

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
I swear sometimes these people live in an alternate reality:

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=170614

Wow. I wonder, if the little girl had been kidnapped, how long would the sister and mother have spent praying for the Rapture before they suspected something besides God was at work, and thought to contact the police?

Gastric ReFlux · 15th October 2004, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Wow. I wonder, if the little girl had been kidnapped, how long would the sister and mother have spent praying for the Rapture before they suspected something besides God was at work, and thought to contact the police?

Or they go on a camping trip, and the little girl wanders off. I can just see the headlines now:

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"We thought she had gone home to Jesus!" wail parents of girl found dead in park

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
Or they go on a camping trip, and the little girl wanders off. I can just see the headlines now:

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"We thought she had gone home to Jesus!" wail parents of girl found dead in park
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They wouldn't say that. They'd blame it on satanist teenagers, who listen to that evil "heavy metal" music and play Dungeons and Dragons.

(Edited to add: the "West Memphis Three", for example.)

RamblingOnwards · 15th October 2004, 10:02 AM

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You really must remember this is a partnership the god and satan have going, just to keep people really guessing

Good cop, bad cop! It makes so much sense now!

"Look, bud, I like you, but my partner here - he's really after your ass. I can protect you, but you need to cooperate with me."

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by RamblingOnwards
Good cop, bad cop! It makes so much sense now!

"Look, bud, I like you, but my partner here - he's really after your ass. I can protect you, but you need to cooperate with me."

It's more like a scam. You see, God and Satan worked together to involve the kid in an accident, and now they'll split the cut of the insurance money the kid's parents will pay them (if they're sensible, they'll pay up!).

c4ts · 15th October 2004, 10:23 AM

These people do live in their own little world. They do it on purpose by isolating themselves from everyone else.

Yaotl · 15th October 2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
I swear sometimes these people live in an alternate reality:

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=170614

That really is the scariest place I've ever seen.

c4ts · 15th October 2004, 10:34 AM

Evidently you missed out on all the fun when we first discovered the forum, when a bunch of us were kicked off for posting evidence.

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by c4ts
Evidently you missed out on all the fun when we first discovered the forum, when a bunch of us were kicked off for posting evidence.

Do they know you were kicked off, or do they think you were all swept up in the Rapture? Somehow, I think they might suspect the truth in this case.

Savagemutt · 15th October 2004, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Wow. I wonder, if the little girl had been kidnapped, how long would the sister and mother have spent praying for the Rapture before they suspected something besides God was at work, and thought to contact the police?

It's a great excuse to skip out of work though.

"Sorry boss, but I can't make it in today. I've ascended to heaven."

Nyarlathotep · 15th October 2004, 10:46 AM

Sometimes I think 1inChrist is a troll.

Then someone posts a link to rapture ready, and see things that convince me that if he is a troll, there is a whole message board full of people who sound just like him and are dead serious. It's kind of sad, really.

The GM · 15th October 2004, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by RR that Yoatl pointed to
Let me tell you all something scary that happened to me this morning. My 17 year old daughter Melissa wakes me up (about 4:30am) and says, "Mom, where's Katie??!?!!" I said, "In bed where else?" I should have known by the panicked tone in her voice Katie (3 years old) obviously not there. Katie jumps out of her closet and says, "Here I am!" and is laughing. Apparently she had a little accident in bed and was changing her panties. Later Melissa and I were talking and she said, "Mom. I thought the rapture had happened and we had not been taken." We prayed right then and there so there would be no doubt in our minds next time.

I literally weep for Melissa. I grieve for the fear and anguish that this girl must endure. This is not funny stuff guys. How does this sort of outlook affect a young woman, her self esteem, her thoughts and feelings? If my 3 year old was missing out of bed, my first thought isn't going to be, 'I missed the bus to Heaven.'
I wish there was a way to comfort this young woman and to give her a sense of peace rather than one of fear. *sigh*
Idiot parents. The use of a uterus should require a license.

c4ts · 15th October 2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Do they know you were kicked off, or do they think you were all swept up in the Rapture? Somehow, I think they might suspect the truth in this case.

No, they know. The board rules were hypocritical. It said "we want different viewpoints," but as soon as I said Christians were not a minority in America (and showed survey results, not a poll), they kicked me off without even a warning. It makes JREF look good in comparison, where someone can post all the "evidence" for Hell he wants and he won't be kicked off for it.

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by c4ts
No, they know. The board rules were hypocritical. It said "we want different viewpoints," but as soon as I said Christians were not a minority in America (and showed survey results, not a poll), they kicked me off without even a warning.

Wow, Christians aren't a minority? Oh, but maybe the True Christians (TM) are. Lol. Too bad you didn't get kicked off for something snappy, like Dorothy Parker:

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from http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/litl...ion/parker.htm

While a student at the Blessed Sacrament Convent School in New York City, Dorothy was expelled for insisting that the Immaculate Conception was a form of "spontaneous combustion."

I bet they'd love hearing that on RR.

c4ts · 15th October 2004, 11:06 AM

At least she didn't say it was spontaneous generation.

alfaniner · 15th October 2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
Before I forget, I win! Debate's over.

Nuh-uh! You need to post a reasoned Argument to win a debate. (Unless you meant to post "Argument by Happy, Wacky, Bouncing, Yellow Ball").

And besides, I don't think we're debating here...

c4ts · 15th October 2004, 11:20 AM

It doesn't matter whether or not we are debating, I win the debate!

Argument through apathy.

Gastric ReFlux · 15th October 2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by The GM
I literally weep for Melissa. I grieve for the fear and anguish that this girl must endure. This is not funny stuff guys. How does this sort of outlook affect a young woman, her self esteem, her thoughts and feelings? If my 3 year old was missing out of bed, my first thought isn't going to be, 'I missed the bus to Heaven.'
I wish there was a way to comfort this young woman and to give her a sense of peace rather than one of fear. *sigh*
Idiot parents. The use of a uterus should require a license.

I understand your point. Back in college, I had an English lit course where the professor pointed out that tragedy and humor are the two sides of the same coin. So yes, I think you're correct to point out the tragic implications, but there is also for some of us a reaction to the incredible absurdity of it, since in this case the brief anecdote didn't seeing anyone getting irreparably harmed. But then, as you pointed out, it seems to be a horribly tragic way to see the world, where the disappearance of a younger sibling translates into fear that one hasn't been a good-enough Christian.

So anyhow, let me tell you this funny story about a young Danish prince who can't ever make up his mind...

The GM · 15th October 2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
I understand your point. Back in college, I had an English lit course where the professor pointed out that tragedy and humor are the two sides of the same coin. So yes, I think you're correct to point out the tragic implications, but there is also for some of us a reaction to the incredible absurdity of it, since in this case the brief anecdote didn't seeing anyone getting irreparably harmed. But then, as you pointed out, it seems to be a horribly tragic way to see the world, where the disappearance of a younger sibling translates into fear that one hasn't been a good-enough Christian.

So anyhow, let me tell you this funny story about a young Danish prince who can't ever make up his mind...

Yeah, I know. The RR crowd makes themselves a pretty easy target for humor. I agree, some of it is so absurd, the only thing you can do is laugh. Unfortunately, laughter isn't going to help Melissa. I sometimes make light of fundie behavior myself. I've been ill of late and a relative, completely serious and sincere, offered to come and annoint me. I replied with, "No thanks. I've been trying to cut back." We both laughed, it was a good way to break the tension of a potentially sticky discussion. I'm guessing Melissa doesn't get to laugh much when her panick at a missing sibling automatically translates into 'I'm going to Hell.'
I wish I knew what the solution to these sorts of dilemnas was.

BTW, I've heard about the Dane. Have you heard the one about the baby seal who walks into a club?

EdipisReks · 15th October 2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by The GM
BTW, I've heard about the Dane. Have you heard the one about the baby seal who walks into a club?

did the seal go in for the drinks, the atmosphere, or the bone crushing beat of the music?

Anders · 15th October 2004, 12:18 PM

So which God do we cheer for when another child dies of HIV/Aids in Africa.

phildonnia · 15th October 2004, 01:10 PM

There seems to be an unusually high occurrence of "Me Too" sentiments expressed in that thread.

Tony · 15th October 2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
I swear sometimes these people live in an alternate reality:

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=170614

From the link:

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I am at work and I just decided today that I will pray every time I
go to the ladies room.

I just prayed for my daughter and my husband and I tell you, I could
feel I was in his presence.

The more time you spend in prayer, the closer you will feel to GOD.

She was praying in the bathroom and claims to have felt "his" presence. Hmmm...I think that was just gas woman.

TragicMonkey · 15th October 2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Tony
She was praying in the bathroom and claims to have felt "his" presence.

I think the Protestant Reformation has gone too far. It's one thing to say you don't have to be in a fancy church with stained glass windows and statues to pray, but the bathroom? That seems a tad disrespectful...communicating with the Almighty in the same room that you make stinkies.

Tony · 15th October 2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
I think the Protestant Reformation has gone too far. It's one thing to say you don't have to be in a fancy church with stained glass windows and statues to pray, but the bathroom? That seems a tad disrespectful...communicating with the Almighty in the same room that you make stinkies.

Maybe the woman's god is a log of turd? That's an explanation for how she could be in "his" presence.

15th October 2004, 07:39 AM	#1
Gastric ReFlux Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 257	God teaches little girl a lesson Rapture Ready folks praise their awesome Gawd! Let's just hope some born-agains witnessed to the little girl, so she might appreciate just how merciful God was to her shoulder, face and lungs.
	__________________ Coolest smiley in the world right here at the Randi forums: Quote: but how do you know Satan didn't plant other gods, saviors and demons in history? YOU DON'T Every argument made by anti-God people are based on naturalistic presuppositions and Satan could very well be behind these presuppositions. Think about it. Your precious ''rational and predictable world'' may just be an illusion created by God's enemy. --1inChrist

15th October 2004, 07:45 AM	#2
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Cool beans! God is awesome! In another thread, someone asks what people would do should they become God. I would like to state that if I ever attain to the powers of godhood, I will personally manufacture a hell of eternal torment for any person who utters those words quoted above. In fact, I will expand eternity to greater lengths, just to ensure that such words do not go insufficiently punished. New depths of pain and horror undreamt of are not enough to express my disgust with the statement "Cool beans! God is awesome!".
	__________________ One cannot expect wisdom to flow from a pumpkin.

15th October 2004, 07:54 AM	#3
Gastric ReFlux Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 257	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey In another thread, someone asks what people would do should they become God. I would like to state that if I ever attain to the powers of godhood, I will personally manufacture a hell of eternal torment for any person who utters those words quoted above. In fact, I will expand eternity to greater lengths, just to ensure that such words do not go insufficiently punished. New depths of pain and horror undreamt of are not enough to express my disgust with the statement "Cool beans! God is awesome!". I could go for that. It's a bizarre world some of these people live in. There are no accidents, everything is an act of God. There's an AM Christian station I can pick up with my car radio and one of my favorite programs to listen to is "The Gospel Hour" which plays the sermons of the late Dr. Oliver B. Greene. Strangely, the show is only a half-hour long, so shouldn't it be The Gospel Half-Hour? Anyhow, the sermon yesterday had Dr. Greene talking about how God's justice in the OT was swift, whereas in the modern age it doesn't seem like is striking down infidels left and right. But Dr Greene pointed out that God always pays in full, and what we think are accidents, really aren't accidents. Mmm hmmm, that's right, I mean to tell you that those accidents are God getting the infidels and blasphemers. Another fascinating show is "In His Grip" with Dr. Chuck Betters. Yesterday he was ranting about the Muslims worshipping a false god, and he asked, "What possible explanation is there for such people?" The answer was... Satan!
	__________________ Coolest smiley in the world right here at the Randi forums: Quote: but how do you know Satan didn't plant other gods, saviors and demons in history? YOU DON'T Every argument made by anti-God people are based on naturalistic presuppositions and Satan could very well be behind these presuppositions. Think about it. Your precious ''rational and predictable world'' may just be an illusion created by God's enemy. --1inChrist

15th October 2004, 07:58 AM	#4
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	So when I misplace my wallet, I can blame god for it?
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15th October 2004, 08:03 AM	#5
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Originally posted by Yaotl So when I misplace my wallet, I can blame god for it? Are you suggesting that God is sneaking your wallet, looking for beer money? Because, like, his mom totally gave him that cash, it's not yours, dude. I swear. No, God wasn't drinking. He was having a soda, but some guy spilled beer on him, which is why he smells like beer. Honestly.
	__________________ One cannot expect wisdom to flow from a pumpkin.

15th October 2004, 08:05 AM	#6
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey Are you suggesting that God is sneaking your wallet, looking for beer money? Because, like, his mom totally gave him that cash, it's not yours, dude. I swear. No, God wasn't drinking. He was having a soda, but some guy spilled beer on him, which is why he smells like beer. Honestly. And how do you explain the funky smell on his clothes? I don't want god hanging out with those kids down the street anymore, and if my keys are gone when I come back, there's a god that's not going to have any x-box to play.
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15th October 2004, 08:09 AM	#7
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Originally posted by Yaotl And how do you explain the funky smell on his clothes? I don't want god hanging out with those kids down the street anymore, and if my keys are gone when I come back, there's a god that's not going to have any x-box to play. When God grows up, he's going to teach you a lesson. Learn from what happened to the little girl, and consider--they're praising God for going light on her.
	__________________ One cannot expect wisdom to flow from a pumpkin.

15th October 2004, 08:11 AM	#8
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey When God grows up, he's going to teach you a lesson. Learn from what happened to the little girl, and consider--they're praising God for going light on her. Hmm, good point. Okay, but only 1 hour of x-box instead of 2.
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15th October 2004, 08:12 AM	#9
Gastric ReFlux Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 257	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey When God grows up, he's going to teach you a lesson. Learn from what happened to the little girl, and consider--they're praising God for going light on her. Yeah, I bet if she doesn't shape up, next time He's gonna break her legs too! Maybe have her get hit by a Hummer instead of just a minivan.
	__________________ Coolest smiley in the world right here at the Randi forums: Quote: but how do you know Satan didn't plant other gods, saviors and demons in history? YOU DON'T Every argument made by anti-God people are based on naturalistic presuppositions and Satan could very well be behind these presuppositions. Think about it. Your precious ''rational and predictable world'' may just be an illusion created by God's enemy. --1inChrist

15th October 2004, 08:33 AM	#10
Gastric ReFlux Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 257	Before I forget, I win! Debate's over.
	__________________ Coolest smiley in the world right here at the Randi forums: Quote: but how do you know Satan didn't plant other gods, saviors and demons in history? YOU DON'T Every argument made by anti-God people are based on naturalistic presuppositions and Satan could very well be behind these presuppositions. Think about it. Your precious ''rational and predictable world'' may just be an illusion created by God's enemy. --1inChrist

15th October 2004, 08:42 AM	#11
El Greco Summer worshipper Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Παρά θιν'αλός Posts: 14,293	A proof of these people's idiocy is that while in a deadly accident they admit they can't understand God's mysterious ways, when a accident is warded off they suddenly can understand perfectly God's works and motives. How do they know that God didn't save that girl only to become a suicide bomber later in her life ? Why don't they praise the Lord after a tragic accident since allegedly that was also part of his greater plan ?
	__________________ "Robbing a bank is no crime compared to owning one" - Bertolt Brecht "Let it go and come to bed already, El Greco" - MoeFaux

15th October 2004, 09:03 AM	#12
jimmygun Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,589	And god said let there be light and there was light. And it was good. And god said I'm going to cause a coincidence and he made the little girl run out under a minivan. And it was done. Now god secretlyspoke to a truck driver and told him to return to his house to get his wallet and he did. And god saw the truck driver rescue the little girl who was nearly crushed to death. And it was good. And the people stood around and praised the coincidence, thanking god for making it happen and it was good. And in the meantime, while god was causing this coincidence twenty five thousand children around the world starved to death.
	__________________ Jimmygun I have been referred to as a non-believer. I prefer the term 'Non-pretender'

15th October 2004, 09:07 AM	#13
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	Quote: Originally posted by jimmygun And god said let there be light and there was light. And it was good. And god said I'm going to cause a coincidence and he made the little girl run out under a minivan. And it was done. Now god secretly spoke to a truck driver and told him to return to his house to get his wallet and he did. And god saw the truck driver resque the little girl who was nearly crushed to death. And it was good. And the people stood around and praised the coincidence, thanking god for making it happen and it was good. And in the meantime, while god was causing this coincidence twenty five thousand children around the world starved to death. No, no, since god is omnipresent, he knew and could have helped the 25,000 kids, he just didn't want to bother. Now where did I put my wallet...
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15th October 2004, 09:18 AM	#14
Stitch Muse Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the fence Posts: 672	I think they seem to have missed the bit up front where satan tempted her out in to the road so she could be run over. God didn't do it all you know, he just did the saving You really must remember this is a partnership the god and satan have going, just to keep people really guessing

15th October 2004, 09:32 AM	#15
Gastric ReFlux Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 257	I swear sometimes these people live in an alternate reality: Quote: Let me tell you all something scary that happened to me this morning. My 17 year old daughter Melissa wakes me up (about 4:30am) and says, "Mom, where's Katie??!?!!" I said, "In bed where else?" I should have known by the panicked tone in her voice Katie (3 years old) obviously not there. Katie jumps out of her closet and says, "Here I am!" and is laughing. Apparently she had a little accident in bed and was changing her panties. Later Melissa and I were talking and she said, "Mom. I thought the rapture had happened and we had not been taken." We prayed right then and there so there would be no doubt in our minds next time http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=170614
	__________________ Coolest smiley in the world right here at the Randi forums: Quote: but how do you know Satan didn't plant other gods, saviors and demons in history? YOU DON'T Every argument made by anti-God people are based on naturalistic presuppositions and Satan could very well be behind these presuppositions. Think about it. Your precious ''rational and predictable world'' may just be an illusion created by God's enemy. --1inChrist

15th October 2004, 09:42 AM	#16
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux I swear sometimes these people live in an alternate reality: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=170614 Wow. I wonder, if the little girl had been kidnapped, how long would the sister and mother have spent praying for the Rapture before they suspected something besides God was at work, and thought to contact the police?
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15th October 2004, 09:47 AM	#17
Gastric ReFlux Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 257	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey Wow. I wonder, if the little girl had been kidnapped, how long would the sister and mother have spent praying for the Rapture before they suspected something besides God was at work, and thought to contact the police? Or they go on a camping trip, and the little girl wanders off. I can just see the headlines now: Quote: "We thought she had gone home to Jesus!" wail parents of girl found dead in park
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15th October 2004, 09:53 AM	#18
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux Or they go on a camping trip, and the little girl wanders off. I can just see the headlines now: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We thought she had gone home to Jesus!" wail parents of girl found dead in park -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They wouldn't say that. They'd blame it on satanist teenagers, who listen to that evil "heavy metal" music and play Dungeons and Dragons. (Edited to add: the "West Memphis Three", for example.)
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15th October 2004, 10:02 AM	#19
RamblingOnwards Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 417	Quote: You really must remember this is a partnership the god and satan have going, just to keep people really guessing Good cop, bad cop! It makes so much sense now! "Look, bud, I like you, but my partner here - he's really after your ass. I can protect you, but you need to cooperate with me."

15th October 2004, 10:05 AM	#20
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Originally posted by RamblingOnwards Good cop, bad cop! It makes so much sense now! "Look, bud, I like you, but my partner here - he's really after your ass. I can protect you, but you need to cooperate with me." It's more like a scam. You see, God and Satan worked together to involve the kid in an accident, and now they'll split the cut of the insurance money the kid's parents will pay them (if they're sensible, they'll pay up!).
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15th October 2004, 10:23 AM	#21
c4ts Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your base Posts: 8,427	These people do live in their own little world. They do it on purpose by isolating themselves from everyone else.
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15th October 2004, 10:25 AM	#22
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	Quote: Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux I swear sometimes these people live in an alternate reality: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=170614 That really is the scariest place I've ever seen.
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15th October 2004, 10:34 AM	#23
c4ts Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your base Posts: 8,427	Evidently you missed out on all the fun when we first discovered the forum, when a bunch of us were kicked off for posting evidence.
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15th October 2004, 10:35 AM	#24
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Originally posted by c4ts Evidently you missed out on all the fun when we first discovered the forum, when a bunch of us were kicked off for posting evidence. Do they know you were kicked off, or do they think you were all swept up in the Rapture? Somehow, I think they might suspect the truth in this case.
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15th October 2004, 10:42 AM	#25
Savagemutt Thinker Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 127	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey Wow. I wonder, if the little girl had been kidnapped, how long would the sister and mother have spent praying for the Rapture before they suspected something besides God was at work, and thought to contact the police? It's a great excuse to skip out of work though. "Sorry boss, but I can't make it in today. I've ascended to heaven."
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15th October 2004, 10:46 AM	#26
Nyarlathotep Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 7,514	Sometimes I think 1inChrist is a troll. Then someone posts a link to rapture ready, and see things that convince me that if he is a troll, there is a whole message board full of people who sound just like him and are dead serious. It's kind of sad, really.
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15th October 2004, 10:47 AM	#27
The GM LAW Dawg Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,187	Quote: Originally posted by RR that Yoatl pointed to Let me tell you all something scary that happened to me this morning. My 17 year old daughter Melissa wakes me up (about 4:30am) and says, "Mom, where's Katie??!?!!" I said, "In bed where else?" I should have known by the panicked tone in her voice Katie (3 years old) obviously not there. Katie jumps out of her closet and says, "Here I am!" and is laughing. Apparently she had a little accident in bed and was changing her panties. Later Melissa and I were talking and she said, "Mom. I thought the rapture had happened and we had not been taken." We prayed right then and there so there would be no doubt in our minds next time. I literally weep for Melissa. I grieve for the fear and anguish that this girl must endure. This is not funny stuff guys. How does this sort of outlook affect a young woman, her self esteem, her thoughts and feelings? If my 3 year old was missing out of bed, my first thought isn't going to be, 'I missed the bus to Heaven.' I wish there was a way to comfort this young woman and to give her a sense of peace rather than one of fear. sigh Idiot parents. The use of a uterus should require a license.
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15th October 2004, 10:55 AM	#28
c4ts Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your base Posts: 8,427	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey Do they know you were kicked off, or do they think you were all swept up in the Rapture? Somehow, I think they might suspect the truth in this case. No, they know. The board rules were hypocritical. It said "we want different viewpoints," but as soon as I said Christians were not a minority in America (and showed survey results, not a poll), they kicked me off without even a warning. It makes JREF look good in comparison, where someone can post all the "evidence" for Hell he wants and he won't be kicked off for it.
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15th October 2004, 11:01 AM	#29
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,096	Quote: Originally posted by c4ts No, they know. The board rules were hypocritical. It said "we want different viewpoints," but as soon as I said Christians were not a minority in America (and showed survey results, not a poll), they kicked me off without even a warning. Wow, Christians aren't a minority? Oh, but maybe the True Christians (TM) are. Lol. Too bad you didn't get kicked off for something snappy, like Dorothy Parker: Quote: from http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/litl...ion/parker.htm While a student at the Blessed Sacrament Convent School in New York City, Dorothy was expelled for insisting that the Immaculate Conception was a form of "spontaneous combustion." I bet they'd love hearing that on RR.
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15th October 2004, 11:06 AM	#30
c4ts Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your base Posts: 8,427	At least she didn't say it was spontaneous generation.
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15th October 2004, 11:12 AM	#31
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 11,390	Quote: Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux Before I forget, I win! Debate's over. Nuh-uh! You need to post a reasoned Argument to win a debate. (Unless you meant to post "Argument by Happy, Wacky, Bouncing, Yellow Ball"). And besides, I don't think we're debating here...
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15th October 2004, 11:20 AM	#32
c4ts Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your base Posts: 8,427	It doesn't matter whether or not we are debating, I win the debate! Argument through apathy.
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15th October 2004, 11:33 AM	#33
Gastric ReFlux Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 257	Quote: Originally posted by The GM I literally weep for Melissa. I grieve for the fear and anguish that this girl must endure. This is not funny stuff guys. How does this sort of outlook affect a young woman, her self esteem, her thoughts and feelings? If my 3 year old was missing out of bed, my first thought isn't going to be, 'I missed the bus to Heaven.' I wish there was a way to comfort this young woman and to give her a sense of peace rather than one of fear. sigh Idiot parents. The use of a uterus should require a license. I understand your point. Back in college, I had an English lit course where the professor pointed out that tragedy and humor are the two sides of the same coin. So yes, I think you're correct to point out the tragic implications, but there is also for some of us a reaction to the incredible absurdity of it, since in this case the brief anecdote didn't seeing anyone getting irreparably harmed. But then, as you pointed out, it seems to be a horribly tragic way to see the world, where the disappearance of a younger sibling translates into fear that one hasn't been a good-enough Christian. So anyhow, let me tell you this funny story about a young Danish prince who can't ever make up his mind...
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15th October 2004, 11:42 AM	#34
The GM LAW Dawg Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,187	Quote: Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux I understand your point. Back in college, I had an English lit course where the professor pointed out that tragedy and humor are the two sides of the same coin. So yes, I think you're correct to point out the tragic implications, but there is also for some of us a reaction to the incredible absurdity of it, since in this case the brief anecdote didn't seeing anyone getting irreparably harmed. But then, as you pointed out, it seems to be a horribly tragic way to see the world, where the disappearance of a younger sibling translates into fear that one hasn't been a good-enough Christian. So anyhow, let me tell you this funny story about a young Danish prince who can't ever make up his mind... Yeah, I know. The RR crowd makes themselves a pretty easy target for humor. I agree, some of it is so absurd, the only thing you can do is laugh. Unfortunately, laughter isn't going to help Melissa. I sometimes make light of fundie behavior myself. I've been ill of late and a relative, completely serious and sincere, offered to come and annoint me. I replied with, "No thanks. I've been trying to cut back." We both laughed, it was a good way to break the tension of a potentially sticky discussion. I'm guessing Melissa doesn't get to laugh much when her panick at a missing sibling automatically translates into 'I'm going to Hell.' I wish I knew what the solution to these sorts of dilemnas was. BTW, I've heard about the Dane. Have you heard the one about the baby seal who walks into a club?
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15th October 2004, 12:00 PM	#35
EdipisReks Custom Title Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The 'Nati Posts: 1,952	Quote: Originally posted by The GM BTW, I've heard about the Dane. Have you heard the one about the baby seal who walks into a club? did the seal go in for the drinks, the atmosphere, or the bone crushing beat of the music?
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