Bin Laden Still Not Captured

corplinx · 26th October 2004, 12:52 PM

Election day is almost here and no october surprise from the elephants. So much for that crackpot theory.....

TragicMonkey · 26th October 2004, 12:54 PM

Speaking of crackpots, 1inChrist's God told him that bin Laden will be captured on Oct 29, 2004. See? It's as good as done already!

The Central Scrutinizer · 26th October 2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Speaking of crackpots, 1inChrist's God told him that bin Laden will be captured on Oct 29, 2004.

What time?

TragicMonkey · 26th October 2004, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
What time?

I dunno. Ask 1inChrist, he has such a good record with answering direct questions!

Charlie Monoxide · 26th October 2004, 01:22 PM

Let's not be too premature. It's only Oct 26. I'm not one to underestimate Karl Rove. We still have a week of shenanigans to get through.

Charlie (that goes for both parties) Monoxide

UserGoogol · 26th October 2004, 01:25 PM

To be fair, it's not really a surprise if we expect it to begin with. One could argue that the rumors were sort of a self-disproving prophecy.

Although it's reasonably likely that the "October Surprise" theory was never really all that likely to begin with.

hgc · 26th October 2004, 02:07 PM

It is getting quite late. What happened to Rove's October surprise?

The dog ate it.

corplinx · 26th October 2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by hgc
It is getting quite late. What happened to Rove's October surprise?

The dog ate it.

I don't know about Rove's but Dan Rather's blew up in his face.

Rob Lister · 26th October 2004, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hgc
It is getting quite late. What happened to Rove's October surprise?

The dog ate it.

I really don't 'get' that post but I'll use it to springboard my own.

I think we can look forward to at least one more 'surprise' from each side before Super Tuesday. I'll be disappointed in both campaigns if it doesn't happen.

I suppose Binny L could be captured/killed before election night but I don't think it would swing the election either way. As many people would be swayed toward Bush for the capture as would be swayed away because of the timing.

It would be a wash.

The surprises should revolve around something in distant past that nobody's yet touched on. Possibly some newly discovered relationship (you fill in the type).

I'll make a prediction:

Bush is getting it on with Condie.

Kerry is getting it on with Teddy.

hgc · 26th October 2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
I really don't 'get' that post but I'll use it to springboard my own.

..

i.e., The dog ate my homework.

hgc · 26th October 2004, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corplinx
I don't know about Rove's but Dan Rather's blew up in his face.

Well the eager beaver did get caught in his own trap. Too bad government officials and their henchmen aren't held to even a fraction of the same standards of veracity.

HarryKeogh · 26th October 2004, 03:47 PM

did any of the liberals on this board think bin Laden being captured a few weeks before election day was anywhere near likely?

I don't think so and I hope not. It certainly was a crackpot theory.

dsm · 26th October 2004, 04:50 PM

At this stage, with all the hoopla about this possible October surprise, if Bush (et.al.) announced bin Laden's capture, it might just backfire on him.

You know, I still wonder why there's been no major interview of Saddam Hussein by American journalists since his capture. Did I miss something?

BPSCG · 26th October 2004, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by dsm
You know, I still wonder why there's been no major interview of Saddam Hussein by American journalists since his capture. Did I miss something?

Oh, yeah, they're parading him around all over the place: Today, Letterman, O'Reilly, 60 Minutes...

dsm · 26th October 2004, 05:41 PM

Humor. Ar Ar...?

SlippyToad · 28th October 2004, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
did any of the liberals on this board think bin Laden being captured a few weeks before election day was anywhere near likely?

I don't think so and I hope not. It certainly was a crackpot theory.

I don't think it's possible because I think the martha fokker is dead and has been for three years now. We have not seen his face since November of 2001, and we have only been allowed to hear "tapes" of him "speaking," which are not at all reliably proven as his voice. I think he's being used as a sock puppet by the remnants of his organization. If only we had pursued them as well.

billydkid · 29th October 2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by SlippyToad
I don't think it's possible because I think the martha fokker is dead and has been for three years now. We have not seen his face since November of 2001, and we have only been allowed to hear "tapes" of him "speaking," which are not at all reliably proven as his voice. I think he's being used as a sock puppet by the remnants of his organization. If only we had pursued them as well.

oops!

SlippyToad · 29th October 2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by billydkid
oops!

That is pretty interesting. Do you suppose they just now found the Handycam at the back of the cave? Where has he been all this time?

Dorian Gray · 29th October 2004, 10:40 PM

Well that Osama tape certainly is a surprise, and it certainly is October. But this is totally not what I expected.

The article from the AP almost made it seem like Osama was scolding the Bush family. He ripped into all three of them - GHW, GW and Jeb. He compared them to other families in Middle Eastern countries.

At the risk of sounding unpatriotic, although I certainly don't want to sound like that, Osama bin Laden on this tape sounds like a moderate! Well, a moderate terrorist. He doesn't seem to be nearly as nutty as, say, Zarqawi or Sadr or Amriki (the American guy on the other recent tape).

geni · 29th October 2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dorian Gray
At the risk of sounding unpatriotic, although I certainly don't want to sound like that, Osama bin Laden on this tape sounds like a moderate! Well, a moderate terrorist. He doesn't seem to be nearly as nutty as, say, Zarqawi or Sadr or Amriki (the American guy on the other recent tape).

It's not a new tatic from him. It's not the first time he has tried to sound moderate (remember his "peace offfer" to europe?) .

varwoche · 29th October 2004, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dorian Gray
Well that Osama tape certainly is a surprise, and it certainly is October. But this is totally not what I expected ... At the risk of sounding unpatriotic, although I certainly don't want to sound like that, Osama bin Laden on this tape sounds like a moderate! Well, a moderate terrorist. He doesn't seem to be nearly as nutty as, say, Zarqawi or Sadr or Amriki (the American guy on the other recent tape).

Yes, I found this fascinating. Sorry to be stuck on a one note samba here, but it certainly synchs with the analysis by Michael Scheurer, leading CIA expert on bin Laden.

Lemastre · 31st October 2004, 03:33 AM

A careful, pixel-by-pixel analysis of the brown limbo background in the latest bin Laden video strongly suggests that the tape was shot in an Olin Mills portrait studio in the Tucson suburb of Apache Crotch, AZ. Bush campaign, take note.

26th October 2004, 12:52 PM	#1
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,944	Bin Laden Still Not Captured Election day is almost here and no october surprise from the elephants. So much for that crackpot theory.....
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26th October 2004, 12:54 PM	#2
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,050	Speaking of crackpots, 1inChrist's God told him that bin Laden will be captured on Oct 29, 2004. See? It's as good as done already!
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26th October 2004, 01:08 PM	#3
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Quote: Originally posted by TragicMonkey Speaking of crackpots, 1inChrist's God told him that bin Laden will be captured on Oct 29, 2004. What time?
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26th October 2004, 01:10 PM	#4
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Pither Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 30,050	Quote: Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer What time? I dunno. Ask 1inChrist, he has such a good record with answering direct questions!
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26th October 2004, 01:22 PM	#5
Charlie Monoxide Wag Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 2,761	Let's not be too premature. It's only Oct 26. I'm not one to underestimate Karl Rove. We still have a week of shenanigans to get through. Charlie (that goes for both parties) Monoxide
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26th October 2004, 01:25 PM	#6
UserGoogol Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,074	To be fair, it's not really a surprise if we expect it to begin with. One could argue that the rumors were sort of a self-disproving prophecy. Although it's reasonably likely that the "October Surprise" theory was never really all that likely to begin with.
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26th October 2004, 02:07 PM	#7
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,985	It is getting quite late. What happened to Rove's October surprise? The dog ate it.
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26th October 2004, 02:35 PM	#8
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,944	Quote: Originally posted by hgc It is getting quite late. What happened to Rove's October surprise? The dog ate it. I don't know about Rove's but Dan Rather's blew up in his face.
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26th October 2004, 02:36 PM	#9
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by hgc It is getting quite late. What happened to Rove's October surprise? The dog ate it. I really don't 'get' that post but I'll use it to springboard my own. I think we can look forward to at least one more 'surprise' from each side before Super Tuesday. I'll be disappointed in both campaigns if it doesn't happen. I suppose Binny L could be captured/killed before election night but I don't think it would swing the election either way. As many people would be swayed toward Bush for the capture as would be swayed away because of the timing. It would be a wash. The surprises should revolve around something in distant past that nobody's yet touched on. Possibly some newly discovered relationship (you fill in the type). I'll make a prediction: Bush is getting it on with Condie. Kerry is getting it on with Teddy.

26th October 2004, 02:44 PM	#10
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,985	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister I really don't 'get' that post but I'll use it to springboard my own. .. i.e., The dog ate my homework.
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26th October 2004, 02:46 PM	#11
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,985	Quote: Originally posted by corplinx I don't know about Rove's but Dan Rather's blew up in his face. Well the eager beaver did get caught in his own trap. Too bad government officials and their henchmen aren't held to even a fraction of the same standards of veracity.
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26th October 2004, 03:47 PM	#12
HarryKeogh Catholic School Survivor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,342	did any of the liberals on this board think bin Laden being captured a few weeks before election day was anywhere near likely? I don't think so and I hope not. It certainly was a crackpot theory.

26th October 2004, 04:50 PM	#13
dsm Muse Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 970	At this stage, with all the hoopla about this possible October surprise, if Bush (et.al.) announced bin Laden's capture, it might just backfire on him. You know, I still wonder why there's been no major interview of Saddam Hussein by American journalists since his capture. Did I miss something?
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26th October 2004, 05:16 PM	#14
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Quote: Originally posted by dsm You know, I still wonder why there's been no major interview of Saddam Hussein by American journalists since his capture. Did I miss something? Oh, yeah, they're parading him around all over the place: Today, Letterman, O'Reilly, 60 Minutes...
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26th October 2004, 05:41 PM	#15
dsm Muse Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 970	Humor. Ar Ar...?
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28th October 2004, 05:12 PM	#16
SlippyToad Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 382	Quote: Originally posted by HarryKeogh did any of the liberals on this board think bin Laden being captured a few weeks before election day was anywhere near likely? I don't think so and I hope not. It certainly was a crackpot theory. I don't think it's possible because I think the martha fokker is dead and has been for three years now. We have not seen his face since November of 2001, and we have only been allowed to hear "tapes" of him "speaking," which are not at all reliably proven as his voice. I think he's being used as a sock puppet by the remnants of his organization. If only we had pursued them as well.

29th October 2004, 06:32 PM	#17
billydkid Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Blanchester, OH Posts: 4,930	oops Quote: Originally posted by SlippyToad I don't think it's possible because I think the martha fokker is dead and has been for three years now. We have not seen his face since November of 2001, and we have only been allowed to hear "tapes" of him "speaking," which are not at all reliably proven as his voice. I think he's being used as a sock puppet by the remnants of his organization. If only we had pursued them as well. oops!

29th October 2004, 07:15 PM	#18
SlippyToad Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 382	Re: oops Quote: Originally posted by billydkid oops! That is pretty interesting. Do you suppose they just now found the Handycam at the back of the cave? Where has he been all this time?

29th October 2004, 10:40 PM	#19
Dorian Gray Hypocrisy Detector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 20,193	Well that Osama tape certainly is a surprise, and it certainly is October. But this is totally not what I expected. The article from the AP almost made it seem like Osama was scolding the Bush family. He ripped into all three of them - GHW, GW and Jeb. He compared them to other families in Middle Eastern countries. At the risk of sounding unpatriotic, although I certainly don't want to sound like that, Osama bin Laden on this tape sounds like a moderate! Well, a moderate terrorist. He doesn't seem to be nearly as nutty as, say, Zarqawi or Sadr or Amriki (the American guy on the other recent tape).
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29th October 2004, 10:55 PM	#20
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,554	Quote: Originally posted by Dorian Gray At the risk of sounding unpatriotic, although I certainly don't want to sound like that, Osama bin Laden on this tape sounds like a moderate! Well, a moderate terrorist. He doesn't seem to be nearly as nutty as, say, Zarqawi or Sadr or Amriki (the American guy on the other recent tape). It's not a new tatic from him. It's not the first time he has tried to sound moderate (remember his "peace offfer" to europe?) .

29th October 2004, 11:09 PM	#21
varwoche Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 7,225	Quote: Originally posted by Dorian Gray Well that Osama tape certainly is a surprise, and it certainly is October. But this is totally not what I expected ... At the risk of sounding unpatriotic, although I certainly don't want to sound like that, Osama bin Laden on this tape sounds like a moderate! Well, a moderate terrorist. He doesn't seem to be nearly as nutty as, say, Zarqawi or Sadr or Amriki (the American guy on the other recent tape). Yes, I found this fascinating. Sorry to be stuck on a one note samba here, but it certainly synchs with the analysis by Michael Scheurer, leading CIA expert on bin Laden.
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31st October 2004, 03:33 AM	#22
Lemastre Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 381	bin Laden is nearer than we might think! A careful, pixel-by-pixel analysis of the brown limbo background in the latest bin Laden video strongly suggests that the tape was shot in an Olin Mills portrait studio in the Tucson suburb of Apache Crotch, AZ. Bush campaign, take note.
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