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Old 5th November 2004, 04:53 PM   #1
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Who murdered Arafat?

How about some speculation of what will be in the Arab press when Arafat finally succumbs to his mysterious illness?

Of course the Israelis and the CIA did him in with their superpowers; but how?
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Old 5th November 2004, 05:24 PM   #2
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Whoever they were, I give them my thanks for killing one of the biggest aholes on the planet.
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Old 6th November 2004, 04:22 AM   #3
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I am not sure that the death of Arafat is such a great thing. If it was, he would have died of a "suspicious illness" years ago. The thing that has kept Arafat alive and in power is quite simple. Nobody has any idea who is going to replace him. Compared to some of the nutcases out there, Arafat is a moderate.
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Re: Who murdered Arafat?

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How about some speculation of what will be in the Arab press when Arafat finally succumbs to his mysterious illness?

Of course the Israelis and the CIA did him in with their superpowers; but how?
CNN reported (TV in my background) that some Pal Newspaper is reporting (sorry for the double hearsay) that Israel killed him with food poisoning.

Anybody heard same C-T?
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I am not sure that the death of Arafat is such a great thing. If it was, he would have died of a "suspicious illness" years ago. The thing that has kept Arafat alive and in power is quite simple. Nobody has any idea who is going to replace him. Compared to some of the nutcases out there, Arafat is a moderate.
I hear A_U_P is on the short list. Fool will act as PM.
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Old 6th November 2004, 04:47 AM   #6
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Re: Re: Who murdered Arafat?

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CNN reported (TV in my background) that some Pal Newspaper is reporting (sorry for the double hearsay) that Israel killed him with food poisoning.

Anybody heard same C-T?
You'll realize that in the Arab world Israel is responsible for everything Rob. For if one blames Israel for everything then one never has to take responsibility for anything.
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Old 6th November 2004, 04:47 AM   #7
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Yup, seems there's a rumor of poisoning. My source was www.aftenposten.no that listed it among several rumors going around. One rumor claims that Arafat is doing great. So who was it that said that AUP would be first to mention wacky conspiracy theories?
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Old 6th November 2004, 07:12 AM   #8
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Well that didn't take long.

Arafat poisoned?
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A Palenstian diplomat accused the Israelis yesterday of poisoning Yasser Arafat. "The doctors until now could not diagnose precisely what is wrong with him, but it is believed there is a poison," Ali Kazak, who heads the Palestinian delegation to Australia, told the Herald Sun newspaper in Melbourne.

Arafat's doctor, Ashraf Kurdi, told the Al Jazeera satellite TV network that, "Arafat's health condition makes poisoning a strong possibility."
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Old 6th November 2004, 07:20 AM   #9
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Damned Arabs eh?
Next thing you know they`ll be accusing Israel of carrying missiles in ambulances!
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Old 6th November 2004, 07:33 AM   #10
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Damned Arabs eh? Next thing you know they`ll be accusing Israel of carrying missiles in ambulances!
The funny thing about the claim of poisioning Demon is that one hundred doctors have seen him since late October, the best doctors in France tested his soon-to-be corpse, yet Israel poisoned him is still "a possibility" for Ali Kazak and Ashraf Kurdi.

Anyhow, we are talking about a demographic that still believes jews were not told to go to work on 9-11 as Mossad cameramen danced with joy on New Jersey rooftops...
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Old 6th November 2004, 07:38 AM   #11
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"Anyhow, we are talking about a demographic that still believes jews were not told to go to work on 9-11 as Mossad cameramen danced with joy on New Jersey rooftops..."

And most of your US "demographic" thinks that Saddam was responsible for it.
Go figure eh?
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If they kept me pinned down in some little bombed out ruin for three years it'd probably be death by STD.

Sheesh, I just feel almost nothing for the guy. He's worked so long for his own ego and power it's hard to give a damn.

He's lived a long life, will be remembered as a great hero and martyr, surrounded by pretty French nurses (a personal deathbed wish of mine).

One of his 'supporters' will probably accidentally pull the plug.
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Old 6th November 2004, 08:07 AM   #13
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And most of your US "demographic" thinks that Saddam was responsible for it. Go figure eh?
Arafat was the worst thing ever to happen to the Palestinians. For 40 years he used them as a proxy in the Arab worlds' effort to destroy Israel. He stole from Palestinians, alienated Palestinians throughout the Western and Arab world, played Palestinians against Palestinians and left a wake of destruction from Jordan to Lebanon to Gaza and the West Bank.

Even in death Ali Kazak, who heads the Palestinian delegation to Australia and Ashraf Kurdi, Arafat's doctor, don't blame Arafat for his own death....
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Old 6th November 2004, 08:38 AM   #14
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Well that didn't take long.

Arafat poisoned?
It's taken way too long for me. The Middle East lives on rumor and lie. How did it take this long to surface? I was going to start a thread on this topic when he first became ill. This is just another example of the media being slow to report the facts on the ground.

If you were part of the non Israeli Middle East and a 75 year old man gets sick and dies - FOR NO REASON!! What would you think??

The Jews.
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Old 6th November 2004, 08:49 AM   #15
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... He's lived a long life, will be remembered as a great hero and martyr...
I wonder about this. In many cult of personality states, if the dead leader is not succeeded by a relative his memory is sullied if not expunged.

He'll be buried as a hero but it's very possible, if the Palestinians move now toward statehood, Arafat will not be remembered kindly by Palestinian historians.
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Old 6th November 2004, 04:55 PM   #16
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ZN:
"Well that didn't take long.

Arafat poisoned? "

I guess stuff like this doesn`t actually inspire confidence among Palestinians that he wasn`t poisoned. Looks like they had their reasons.

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Many Palestinians are convinced that Ariel Sharon, the implacable opponent with whom he had first duelled in exile in Lebanon, had a hand in Arafat's collapse. They remember Sharon's statement earlier this year that he no longer felt bound by his promise "not to harm" Arafat. In a cunningly vague article in the Jerusalem Post his confidant, Uri Dan, yesterday hinted that Sharon "eliminated" Arafat via one of his chefs. So it is not surprising that rumours are swirling that Arafat was surreptitiously poisoned or infected.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists...344288,00.html
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I think this was reported on both BBC and C4 News tonight.
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Old 6th November 2004, 05:04 PM   #17
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Well you got me there Demon. Since the "Guardian" printed a third-party heresay conspiracy theory then hell....it must be true!
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The only thing which I hope the people in power are realizing, is that the "war on terror" begins and ends with the Israel/Palestine conflict.

I have no qualms in hoping that Arafat croaks. He was in many ways a stumbling block for peace.

What I hope even more is that Bush realizes that his war on terror can be substantially more successful if he decides that the parties to the Israel/Palestine conflict must be f**king forced to reach a solution.
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Old 6th November 2004, 05:30 PM   #19
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The only thing which I hope the people in power are realizing, is that the "war on terror" begins and ends with the Israel/Palestine conflict.
Funny thing is Osama Bin Laden said nothing about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict originally in his reasons for 9-11. I feel Islamic fundamentalism is the cause and the Israeli/Palestinian issue is an excuse. If the Israeli/Palestinian issue was the cause then Palestinians wouldn't be kept hostage in 50-year-old refugee camps in Arab countries without jobs or citizenship.
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Old 6th November 2004, 05:43 PM   #20
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Okay, here's the scoop. Listen up.

Stop blaming Israel.

And don't bother blaming Bush either.

I admit it.

I did it.

Me.

Me, personally.

I'm responsible.

I'll be giving autographs at 9:00 PM est (that roughly 15 minutes)
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Old 6th November 2004, 06:12 PM   #21
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Funny thing is Osama Bin Laden said nothing about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict originally in his reasons for 9-11. I feel Islamic fundamentalism is the cause and the Israeli/Palestinian issue is an excuse. If the Israeli/Palestinian issue was the cause then Palestinians wouldn't be kept hostage in 50-year-old refugee camps in Arab countries without jobs or citizenship.
True, but "cause" is the wrong word; "excuse" would better, but of course you already said that.
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True, but "cause" is the wrong word; "excuse" would better.
1000 points to whoever can name the author of this:

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Peace in the region would take enormous steam out of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism worldwide. They would have to think of a new excuse to murder people.
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1000 points to whoever can name the author of this:
Bill Clinton, last Thursday.

1000 points of what? How does that translate into S&H Greenstampts?
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Bill Clinton, last Thursday.

1000 points of what? How does that translate into S&H Greenstampts?
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Re: Who murdered Arafat?

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How about some speculation of what will be in the Arab press when Arafat finally succumbs to his mysterious illness?

Of course the Israelis and the CIA did him in with their superpowers; but how?
They used the CIA cancer gun, just like Tipper Gore did on Frank Zappa...
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If "they" wanted arafat dead, he would have been dead a thousand times over. Last I heard, he may have had AIDS. (it must get a little lonely in the compound after a couple of years.....)
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Re: Who murdered Arafat?

Double post...
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If "they" wanted arafat dead, he would have been dead a thousand times over. Last I heard, he may have had AIDS. (it must get a little lonely in the compound after a couple of years.....)
That makes sense, but he was probably infected by western agents who, according to his fellow Nobel winner of this year, are the ones who developed it in order to wipe out "inferior" peoples. It also explains why the French can't (won't) say what ails him, since we all know they will bend over backwards for Arafat.
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[b]The funny thing about the claim of poisioning Demon is that one hundred doctors have seen him since late October, the best doctors in France tested his soon-to-be corpse, yet Israel poisoned him is still "a possibility" for Ali Kazak and Ashraf Kurdi.
That just proves that the French love Israel, which is why they went against the US, and, oh, wait a minute.

Anyway, it's easy to poison someone. It would take some terribly expensive poisons to produce the symptoms that have been reported about Arafat. Platelet count, people? Leukocytosis? Powdered uranium or plutonium, over a period of a decade or so, would be the easiest. And even then, there's only a fairly small chance.

But I'm sure a lot of people here will think it's just evidence of how sneaky those kikes are.
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"Anyhow, we are talking about a demographic that still believes jews were not told to go to work on 9-11 as Mossad cameramen danced with joy on New Jersey rooftops..."

And most of your US "demographic" thinks that Saddam was responsible for it.
Go figure eh?
No, they don't. Not that you care about the truth.
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"No, they don't. Not that you care about the truth."


Is that it? Up to your usual standard of devestating rebuttals eh?
No wonder, you`re probably one of them
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"The funny thing about the claim of poisioning Demon is that one hundred doctors have seen him since late October, the best doctors in France tested his soon-to-be corpse, yet Israel poisoned him is still "a possibility" for Ali Kazak and Ashraf Kurdi."

ZN, I`m not saying he was poisoned ok?
As you`ll know, I`ve made it clear in the past that as far as I was concerned, Arafat was not such a problem for Sharon and his Likudniks. They had him buried long before this.

However, if fuel is added to the flames then no one should be suprised when these rumours start doing the rounds.
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New theory: Arafat poisoned himself.


With all this Jewish conspiracy momentum out there, I'm surprised someone isn't on Broadway producing "Jews - The Musical." The opening number could be about the writing of the Protocols, then a couple of scences taking us up to WW I. Lyrics might be a bit tough, what rhymes with Rothchilds? We may have a hit here. Quick, get Mel Brooks on the line.
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I'm going to start looking for:
Arafat was moved to France so those ghoulish Jewish doctors could sell his organs on the black market, like they always do.


Shhhh, be very, very quiet. I'm hunting conspiracies.
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"Anyhow, we are talking about a demographic that still believes jews were not told to go to work on 9-11 as Mossad cameramen danced with joy on New Jersey rooftops..."

demon
And most of your US "demographic" thinks that Saddam was responsible for it.
Go figure eh?
Hey, 42% is not "most."

As of last month, only 42 percent of Americans still believe deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attacks according to a USA Today/CNN/Gallup poll.

The poll also found 75 percent of Bush backers believe Hussein substantively helped al-Qaida, and 55 percent incorrectly think the 9/11 Commission came to the same conclusion.
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I'm going to start looking for:
Arafat was moved to France so those ghoulish Jewish doctors could sell his organs on the black market, like they always do.
Shhhh, be very, very quiet. I'm hunting conspiracies.
The irony of an Arab leader going to kafir hospital in the evil West is not lost on some of us.
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Here is one of many sites speculating that he is suffering from AIDS.
http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/11/110104arafat.htm
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Here is one of many sites speculating that he is suffering from AIDS.
http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/11/110104arafat.htm
Well, if we buy that without proof, we are no better than the Arab conspiracy buffs, but it is something that could be easily proven with a little blood sample; except that it would take the French government's approval to do it in an unrefutable manner - so probably we will never know.
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You'll realize that in the Arab world Israel is responsible for everything Rob.
In apparently speaking once again for an entire group of people as you often do (in this case Arabs), did you: -
1/ Ask every one of them to make sure that this, your latest claim was true.
2/ Use Uri Geller to psychically analyses their auras.
3/ Just make it up.
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Old 7th November 2004, 12:45 PM   #40
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Debka says the French are trying to kick Arafat out. Fascinating stuff. Looks like only the Tunisians would allow for Arafat's sendoff.

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Howwever, French efforts to unload Arafat by mid-week have been stymied by the lack of any accredited authority willing and able to organize the funeral or even determine the Palestinian leader’s final burial place. No Arab or Muslim leader will attend a funeral in Gaza or Jerusalem because it would entail transiting through an Israeli international port as well as risking his life in a Palestinian terrorist battle zone such as the Gaza Strip.

An earlier suggestion to overcome this difficulty, by Arab and European leaders attending a lying-in-state ceremony in Paris before the coffin’s transfer to Cairo, fell through. According to DEBKAfile’s Middle East sources, three governments - France, Egypt and Jordan – refused to allow any part of the final ceremonies on their soil. Paris then asked the Tunisian president Zeit bin Ali for permission to hold the central ceremony in his capital, so that European, Arab and Musli leaders could pay their last respects in safety. The coffin would then be flown to Cairo and on to the Gaza Strip for burial.
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