What's the story with Sollog?

Taed · 16th December 2004, 09:27 PM

Due to the recent Wiki war over the Sollog age at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sollog), I did some reading up on Sollog. You can form your own opinion just by looking at his web site, http://www.sollog.com/; I suspect that it will be similar to mine! :-)

Anyway, there's various information about Sollog's attempts at the challenge and James Randi at http://www.247news.net/2000/20001011-randi.shtml, and somewhere (I can't re-find the link) I also saw that Sollog claims to have then submitted a notarized form but that he's being ignored or somesuch.

I'm sure that isn't the case, but I'm kinda interested in the other side of the story, and I'd love to see the "form" (with protocol?) that Sollog submitted.

Does anyone know The Straight Dope on this character and his attempts at the Million Dollar Challenge?

Ashles · 17th December 2004, 05:25 AM

Sollog appears to have created his entire mythos based on

This warning

This is unbelievably ridiculous.

Firstly, prophecies hoping to be taken seriously don't usually finish with

Quote:

READ IT AND WEEP MORONS!!!!!

I don't remember Mother Shipton's predictions finishing with "Believe it or kiss my arse suckers!" or Nostrodamus adding a final sentence saying "I'm right and great and if you disagree you are an idiot and you smell and girls don't like you".

I mean this guy makes Lucianarchy look normal.

Then there is his stunningly accurate Madrid Train crash prediction.

On this page a moron outlines how accurate Sollog was with his train crash prediction.

Now let's check out the ACTUAL prediction:
The Madrid Train Crash predicted (and almost anything else on multiple possible days)

This guy is a clown. How has he got an entry in Wikipedia? Can I have my own entry in Wikipedia if I act like a complete idiot on the internet and post random predictions in chatrooms?

Honestly he seems like a pathetic waste of time who has let his hobby and delusions spin out of control.

Wikipedia should just delete his entry and everyone should ignore this screaming crying child.

Yaotl · 17th December 2004, 07:20 AM

Those are some choice words for a "journalist". "Madrid Train Massacre dead on" is particularly tactful. Oh, and "going nuts" is also a very valid way of describing his followers. Suprised he puts the parent company so predominantly on the bottom of the page. Now if he'll only start using his real name as the "journalist"...

KRAMER · 17th December 2004, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taed
Does anyone know The Straight Dope on this character and his attempts at the Million Dollar Challenge?

According to Randi, this Sollog character had consistently refused to apply for the Challenge, stating that he was god and therefor existed on a plane far above the Challenge.

He finally did apply for the Challenge, but refused to divulge his legal name, as per the Challenge rules. Additionally, the application was not notarized. The JREF rejected his application on those grounds.

Should he apply again using his legal name, he would once again be rejected, as the rules have recently been amended to state that JREF declines to test claims involving the existence of deities, angels, demons, etc.

We have no file on him, though I think we should compile one for the general files, as opposed to the Challenge files (considering the very public nature of his claim). As we receive hundreds of claims each year that arrive without any application, or with applications that are not duly executed or notarized, we only keep on file those that are submitted according to the Challenge rules.

Of course we give each inquirer ample time to correct any problems with their application, but if we receive no further contact from them within a few months, into the trash they go.

Ashles · 17th December 2004, 09:44 AM

He's not a 'journalist', that whole site is entirely wacky and either spoofing or loony.

There are a lot of entries for Sollog, all written by one D.E. Alexander.
In fact the theories are that Sollog has no admirers or fans, but an enormous amount of spare time and sock puppets.
Having read a few it's amazing how similar the writing styles are. D.E Alexander could certainly have been the same person who wrote Solloq's website.

Also Sollog wrote his own entry for Wikipedia making himself out to be something akin to a god. Wikepedia demanded the article be balanced by some opposing views (as is its policy) and by all accounts this very thin-skinned child went nuts about it.

Hence all the anti-Wikipedia entries at that 24/7 'news' site (click on the new headlines section)

It really is quite pathetic what some people will do for attention.

Yaotl · 17th December 2004, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ashles
He's not a 'journalist', that whole site is entirely wacky and either spoofing or loony.

There are a lot of entries for Sollog, all written by one D.E. Alexander.
In fact the theories are that Sollog has no admirers or fans, but an enormous amount of spare time and sock puppets.
Having read a few it's amazing how similar the writing styles are. D.E Alexander could certainly have been the same person who wrote Solloq's website.

Also Sollog wrote his own entry for Wikipedia making himself out to be something akin to a god. Wikepedia demanded the article be balanced by some opposing views (as is its policy) and by all accounts this very thin-skinned child went nuts about it.

Hence all the anti-Wikipedia entries at that 24/7 'news' site (click on the new headlines section)

It really is quite pathetic what some people will do for attention.

There was a link in a comment on the Slashdot article on the Wikipedia stuff that pretty much said Alexander was Sollog (Ennis). Both sites are owned by Sollog, Adoni. Him having nothing by sock puppets probably isn't that far from the truth.

Ashles · 17th December 2004, 11:53 AM

More information on this well balanced and respectable individual:

The loon in court

Yaotl · 17th December 2004, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ashles
More information on this well balanced and respectable individual:

The loon in court

That was damn funny.

Hastur · 17th December 2004, 02:13 PM

This guy makes Dorkstar and Peter Morris look like amateurs!

Loon · 17th December 2004, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ashles
More information on this well balanced and respectable individual:

The loon in court

I've never been on trial....

kookbreaker · 18th December 2004, 06:18 AM

I wish I still had a copy, but Sollog used to place ads in the Philadelphia City Paper (a weekly) describing his predictions and lots of stuff about orbital ratios. Why they meant something, I have no idea.

What's not so funny is that Sollog almost has a body count. He crippled a police officer for life with his drunk driving. Why he isn't permenantly in jail is beyond me.

16th December 2004, 09:27 PM	#1
Taed New Blood Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2	What's the story with Sollog? Due to the recent Wiki war over the Sollog age at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sollog), I did some reading up on Sollog. You can form your own opinion just by looking at his web site, http://www.sollog.com/; I suspect that it will be similar to mine! :-) Anyway, there's various information about Sollog's attempts at the challenge and James Randi at http://www.247news.net/2000/20001011-randi.shtml, and somewhere (I can't re-find the link) I also saw that Sollog claims to have then submitted a notarized form but that he's being ignored or somesuch. I'm sure that isn't the case, but I'm kinda interested in the other side of the story, and I'd love to see the "form" (with protocol?) that Sollog submitted. Does anyone know The Straight Dope on this character and his attempts at the Million Dollar Challenge?
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17th December 2004, 05:25 AM	#2
Ashles Pith Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The '80s Posts: 8,711	Sollog appears to have created his entire mythos based on This warning This is unbelievably ridiculous. Firstly, prophecies hoping to be taken seriously don't usually finish with Quote: READ IT AND WEEP MORONS!!!!! I don't remember Mother Shipton's predictions finishing with "Believe it or kiss my arse suckers!" or Nostrodamus adding a final sentence saying "I'm right and great and if you disagree you are an idiot and you smell and girls don't like you". I mean this guy makes Lucianarchy look normal. Then there is his stunningly accurate Madrid Train crash prediction. On this page a moron outlines how accurate Sollog was with his train crash prediction. Now let's check out the ACTUAL prediction: The Madrid Train Crash predicted (and almost anything else on multiple possible days) This guy is a clown. How has he got an entry in Wikipedia? Can I have my own entry in Wikipedia if I act like a complete idiot on the internet and post random predictions in chatrooms? Honestly he seems like a pathetic waste of time who has let his hobby and delusions spin out of control. Wikipedia should just delete his entry and everyone should ignore this screaming crying child.
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17th December 2004, 07:20 AM	#3
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	Those are some choice words for a "journalist". "Madrid Train Massacre dead on" is particularly tactful. Oh, and "going nuts" is also a very valid way of describing his followers. Suprised he puts the parent company so predominantly on the bottom of the page. Now if he'll only start using his real name as the "journalist"...
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17th December 2004, 09:43 AM	#4
KRAMER Former challenge facilitator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,443	Re: What's the story with Sollog? Quote: Originally posted by Taed Does anyone know The Straight Dope on this character and his attempts at the Million Dollar Challenge? According to Randi, this Sollog character had consistently refused to apply for the Challenge, stating that he was god and therefor existed on a plane far above the Challenge. He finally did apply for the Challenge, but refused to divulge his legal name, as per the Challenge rules. Additionally, the application was not notarized. The JREF rejected his application on those grounds. Should he apply again using his legal name, he would once again be rejected, as the rules have recently been amended to state that JREF declines to test claims involving the existence of deities, angels, demons, etc. We have no file on him, though I think we should compile one for the general files, as opposed to the Challenge files (considering the very public nature of his claim). As we receive hundreds of claims each year that arrive without any application, or with applications that are not duly executed or notarized, we only keep on file those that are submitted according to the Challenge rules. Of course we give each inquirer ample time to correct any problems with their application, but if we receive no further contact from them within a few months, into the trash they go.
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17th December 2004, 09:44 AM	#5
Ashles Pith Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The '80s Posts: 8,711	He's not a 'journalist', that whole site is entirely wacky and either spoofing or loony. There are a lot of entries for Sollog, all written by one D.E. Alexander. In fact the theories are that Sollog has no admirers or fans, but an enormous amount of spare time and sock puppets. Having read a few it's amazing how similar the writing styles are. D.E Alexander could certainly have been the same person who wrote Solloq's website. Also Sollog wrote his own entry for Wikipedia making himself out to be something akin to a god. Wikepedia demanded the article be balanced by some opposing views (as is its policy) and by all accounts this very thin-skinned child went nuts about it. Hence all the anti-Wikipedia entries at that 24/7 'news' site (click on the new headlines section) It really is quite pathetic what some people will do for attention.
	__________________ With extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat. - Jeffrey Burton Russell No one "proved" that a bumblebee can't fly. What was shown was that a certain simple mathematical model wasn't adequate or appropriate - Ivars Peterson

17th December 2004, 11:30 AM	#6
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	Quote: Originally posted by Ashles He's not a 'journalist', that whole site is entirely wacky and either spoofing or loony. There are a lot of entries for Sollog, all written by one D.E. Alexander. In fact the theories are that Sollog has no admirers or fans, but an enormous amount of spare time and sock puppets. Having read a few it's amazing how similar the writing styles are. D.E Alexander could certainly have been the same person who wrote Solloq's website. Also Sollog wrote his own entry for Wikipedia making himself out to be something akin to a god. Wikepedia demanded the article be balanced by some opposing views (as is its policy) and by all accounts this very thin-skinned child went nuts about it. Hence all the anti-Wikipedia entries at that 24/7 'news' site (click on the new headlines section) It really is quite pathetic what some people will do for attention. There was a link in a comment on the Slashdot article on the Wikipedia stuff that pretty much said Alexander was Sollog (Ennis). Both sites are owned by Sollog, Adoni. Him having nothing by sock puppets probably isn't that far from the truth.
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17th December 2004, 11:53 AM	#7
Ashles Pith Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The '80s Posts: 8,711	More information on this well balanced and respectable individual: The loon in court
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17th December 2004, 12:13 PM	#8
Yaotl Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 430	Quote: Originally posted by Ashles More information on this well balanced and respectable individual: The loon in court That was damn funny.
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17th December 2004, 02:13 PM	#9
Hastur Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 320	This guy makes Dorkstar and Peter Morris look like amateurs!
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17th December 2004, 11:06 PM	#10
Loon Med Student Roberts Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: in ur base, killin' ur d00dz Posts: 2,105	Quote: Originally posted by Ashles More information on this well balanced and respectable individual: The loon in court I've never been on trial....
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18th December 2004, 06:18 AM	#11
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,164	I wish I still had a copy, but Sollog used to place ads in the Philadelphia City Paper (a weekly) describing his predictions and lots of stuff about orbital ratios. Why they meant something, I have no idea. What's not so funny is that Sollog almost has a body count. He crippled a police officer for life with his drunk driving. Why he isn't permenantly in jail is beyond me.
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