Why (some) Conservatives Hate Sean Hannity

Nova Land · 3rd February 2005, 10:27 AM

Not sure if I should post this in Humor or in Politics, but since it isn't written by Peter David I decided to go with the latter.

I've recently begun visiting Daily Kos every day or so to check in on the Jeff Gannon story they've been investigating, and while there today I spotted this very funny item in a diary entitled "Confessions of a Former Dittohead: Why We Hated Sean Hannity".

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... Another great moment in punditry came when Sean claimed Democrats were endorsing the torture of children by opposing the war. Seriously! My dittohead business partner and I still laugh about it. During one of his beat-down segments with some poor, outgunned Democrat he had an exchange that went something like:

Hannity: "Saddam Hussein was torturing children. You opposed the war. Therefore you support the torture of children. Why do you support the torture of children!

Guest: "Um...I don't think..."

Hannity: "Answer the question! You're not answering the question!

Guest: "I'm trying to..."

Hannity: "ANSWER THE QUESTION! WHY DO YOU TORTURE CHILDREN!!!"

Coulter: "She's avoiding the question, Sean."

Cameron: "I don't think she's going to answer you, Sean."

Hume: "It's a simple question."

Colmes: "Why won't you answer his question?"

Guest: "HEY! I thought you were supposed to be on my side?"

Colmes: "No, the show doesn't work that way."

Edited to remove Hannity's final line, because I think Colmes' line is funnier and don't want to detract from it.

HarryKeogh · 3rd February 2005, 11:02 AM

Another example of this mindset...

http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527

Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic.

Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?"
McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."

McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?"

McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada."

Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops."

McKeown: "No."

Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

crimresearch · 3rd February 2005, 11:17 AM

I'm glad you all have so much spare time and such an abiding interest in those folks, that you not only keep up with what they say, but apparently hang on every word...I'm sure their sponsors, and their bankers are glad too.

HarryKeogh · 3rd February 2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by crimresearch
I'm glad you all have so much spare time and such an abiding interest in those folks, that you not only keep up with what they say, but apparently hang on every word...I'm sure their sponsors, and their bankers are glad too.

actually heard the clip on Air America radio (the liberal-biased network) a week or two ago and I just googled for the transcript of the call. Didn't require that much spare time and I didn't have to add to Coulter or Hannity's ratings. I don't watch Coulter or Hannity. They're liars whose pants are on fire.

corplinx · 3rd February 2005, 12:14 PM

My favorite Hannity spiel, the "will you repudiate the tactics of this person?".

I honestly don't comprehend how his radio show does well except that it comes on after Limbaugh in most markets.

Unfortunately I am sometimes obliged to watch him and Colmes on TV since they occasionally have guests I would like to hear.

A lot of people bash Colmes for letting Shawn bully the guests. I think its a good tactic. To me Shawn always looks like a bore who has no real arguement. Why bash Colmes for not being an equal bore?

Colmes really is a talented broadcaster. If he had a prettier face I bet he could have his own TV show. Heck, I wish his radio show was carried in this area.

Batman Jr. · 3rd February 2005, 12:22 PM

Me: You supported the war. In wars, our troops die. That means you want our troops to die. Why do you support the execution of our troops!?

crimresearch · 3rd February 2005, 12:25 PM

These folks all sound like second rate Joe Pyne and Alan Burke imitators...have they had any 65 year old vets go over the desk after them yet?

It is bread and circuses for the masses...if they didn't have people from the other side faithfully tuning in to be outraged, they wouldn't draw enough to be where they are.

Oh, and as far as the Vietnam comment, I suppose it all depends on what you mean by 'Canada'.

Valmorian · 3rd February 2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by HarryKeogh
Another example of this mindset...

http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527

Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic.

Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?"
McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."

McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?"

McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada."

Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops."

McKeown: "No."

Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

Wow that's severely stupid. She could, of course, just ask any Canadian. :P

Luke T. · 3rd February 2005, 01:04 PM

Count me as one of the conservatives who don't like Sean Hannity. I have never heard his radio show, but I've seen him on Fox, and he does indeed make Colmes look good.

I've read one, maybe two, Coulter articles on the net, and seen her once, maybe twice, on TV. Don't have much of an opinion except that she has nice, long hair and in my single days I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for eating crackers.

crimresearch · 3rd February 2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Luke T.
I've read one, maybe two, Coulter articles on the net, and seen her once, maybe twice, on TV. Don't have much of an opinion except that she has nice, long hair and in my single days I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for eating crackers.

What else would she be doing there?

(Thanks Normy)

WildCat · 3rd February 2005, 03:49 PM

Hannity is such a jackass! I cringe when I hear his mindless rants and badgering of guests. He makes O'Reilly look quite moderate by comparison.

Graculus · 3rd February 2005, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
Another example of this mindset...

http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527

Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic.

Oh, I thought the highlight of the evening was when O'Reilly called the Globe & Mail , "the Havana Times". We missed the next two minutes we were laughing so hard. For those that are unfamiliar with Canadian media, the Glob and Snail is the conservative (note the small "c") national newspaper. They are, however, pretty fair in their coverage.

They made O'Reilly cry, naughty CBC

UserGoogol · 3rd February 2005, 06:07 PM

Yeah, but a conservative in Canada is like... Stalin, right?

Phrost · 3rd February 2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by WildCat
Hannity is such a jackass! I cringe when I hear his mindless rants and badgering of guests. He makes O'Reilly look quite moderate by comparison.

O'Reilly is a moderate, like it or not. He just leans Right more often than not. He took the position that the Colorado professor who spoke out in favor of the 9/11 attacks, should not be fired from his job when all the Republicans were calling for him to be lynched.

Anyway, I kind of like Hannity (except his pro-religion garbage) but still found that funny. It's funny because it's soewhat true.

Graculus · 3rd February 2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Phrost
O'Reilly is a moderate, like it or not.

Now that's funny.

Canadian political spectrum for the rest of you:

Socialism....NDP......Liberals.....old PC party ... Reformatories... old Reform.... Stalin..... O'Reilly
......................................^ ....^ ................................^
.......................... European ..Canadian ................American
............................. centre ....centre .......................centre

peptoabysmal · 3rd February 2005, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
Another example of this mindset...

http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527

Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic.

Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?"
McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."

McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?"

McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada."

Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops."

McKeown: "No."

Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

Wow, are the Military Order of Canadian Vietnam Veterans going to be surprised to hear about this!

Nasarius · 3rd February 2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Phrost
It's funny because it's soewhat true.

Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist?

Moron.

Cleon · 3rd February 2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by peptoabysmal
Wow, are the Military Order of Canadian Vietnam Veterans going to be surprised to hear about this!

Um, dude, those guys are folks in Canada who fought for the US in Vietnam. If you look at their "About Us" pages, it says specifically:

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Members of the Armed Forces of Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Thailand and the United States are eligible to request consideration for membership.

Canada did not send troops to Vietnam.

Phrost · 3rd February 2005, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nasarius
Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist?

Moron.

Hmm, I misspelled "somewhat".

HarryKeogh · 3rd February 2005, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleon
Um, dude, those guys are folks in Canada who fought for the US in Vietnam. If you look at their "About Us" pages, it says specifically:

Canada did not send troops to Vietnam.

maybe Peptoabysmal could take a page from Ann Coulter's book: Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

crimresearch · 3rd February 2005, 09:34 PM

Like I said...it all depends on what you mean by 'Canada'...

Dorian Gray · 3rd February 2005, 09:48 PM

Hannity's jealousy of Rush Limbaugh is so transparent. Instead of dittoes, his audience is Hannitized. And like most conservative talk radio guys, you are either a good ass-kissing American, or it's "Shut up! Shut up!"

Speaking of Limbaugh, I think it's hilarious that he has taken to calling himself "America's anchorman" - since he's the anchor AND the reporter AND the vetter AND the commercial. AND full of sh*t.

Then you've got Michael Savage, who calls for the nuking of Mecca and Medina one week, then tells stories about his Muslim friends the next.

All of them are just like Kerry was on Meet the Press - completely unaware that the election is over.

Questioninggeller · 3rd February 2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by crimresearch
I'm glad you all have so much spare time and such an abiding interest in those folks, that you not only keep up with what they say, but apparently hang on every word...I'm sure their sponsors, and their bankers are glad too.

I think it is important to expose these liars for what they are. Sure we can just brush off these idiots, but we are doing an injustice by letting them go unchecked, allowing them to preach this stuff.

peptoabysmal · 3rd February 2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Cleon
Um, dude, those guys are folks in Canada who fought for the US in Vietnam. If you look at their "About Us" pages, it says specifically:

Canada did not send troops to Vietnam.

I didn't want anyone to walk away from this thinking no Canadians ever served. In fact, more Canadians joined the US forces than there were draft dodgers who went into Canada.

Lighten up dude.

Nova Land · 4th February 2005, 02:03 AM

Phrost: Anyway, I kind of like Hannity (except his pro-religion garbage) but still found that funny. It's funny because it's somewhat true.

Nasarius: Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist?
Moron.

An interesting thing about pronouns such as it is that it's often easy to misinterpret what the pronoun is referring to. When I read Phrost's post, I interpreted it to refer to the "transcript" in the opening post, so that the meaning of what Phrost is saying would be: Even though I kind of like Hannity, I still found the take-off on his program funny because it was somewhat true that Hannity and Colmes really do behave that way. That's something I find admirable: being able to find humor even when the target of the humor is someone or something one agrees with.

In contrast, it sounds like Nasarius heard the it to refer to the kind of illogic Hannity is using in the piece. That interpretation did not occur to me in reading Phrost's post, and even re-reading it I think it to be less likely than my interpretation. But it shows how easy it is for different people to read or hear things differently, even when we think we have expressed ourselves clearly.

a_unique_person · 4th February 2005, 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by Dorian Gray

Then you've got Michael Savage, who calls for the nuking of Mecca and Medina one week, then tells stories about his Muslim friends the next.

That seems to be the standard line. The conservatives who love Muslims, but hate them, but they really love them, but they hate them.

Phrost · 4th February 2005, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nova Land
Phrost: Anyway, I kind of like Hannity (except his pro-religion garbage) but still found that funny. It's funny because it's somewhat true.

Nasarius: Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist?
Moron.

An interesting thing about pronouns such as it is that it's often easy to misinterpret what the pronoun is referring to. When I read Phrost's post, I interpreted it to refer to the "transcript" in the opening post, so that the meaning of what Phrost is saying would be: Even though I kind of like Hannity, I still found the take-off on his program funny because it was somewhat true that Hannity and Colmes really do behave that way. That's something I find admirable: being able to find humor even when the target of the humor is someone or something one agrees with.

In contrast, it sounds like Nasarius heard the it to refer to the kind of illogic Hannity is using in the piece. That interpretation did not occur to me in reading Phrost's post, and even re-reading it I think it to be less likely than my interpretation. But it shows how easy it is for different people to read or hear things differently, even when we think we have expressed ourselves clearly.

Interesting. I didn't even bother to try and get my head around why I was being called a moron for appreciating humor at Hannity's expense.

Gotta love the Internet.

Phrost · 4th February 2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by a_unique_person
That seems to be the standard line. The conservatives who love Muslims, but hate them, but they really love them, but they hate them.

I've only caught his show once or twice. Best line I heard was his intro:

"Coming to you live, and un-beheaded".

It helps if you listen to talk radio in the right frame of mind. My term for it is "Punditainment".

Charlie Monoxide · 4th February 2005, 09:51 AM

I've suffered through a few afternoon listens of Hannity. The man is truly insufferable.

I'm always amazed (but have moved to deep cynicism) that rightwing GOP'ers love this guy as well as the oxycontin addict. The message these goofballs deliver Is easy to accept if you don't question anything they say. They seem (to me) like something out of 1984.

Charlie (you're a great american) Monoxide

Number Six · 4th February 2005, 10:10 AM

I can't stand Sean Hannity. He's awful. He make O'Reilly look like the most fair minded person that ever existed by comparison. (BTW, it may be my imagination but it seems like O'Reilly's show has gotten worse lately in the sense that fewer dissenting opinions are allowed. And the Joe Scarborough Show, which used to be a fair minded albeit right leaning show, has gotten a lot worse lately in the same way. I guess the idea is that if Fox is getting the higher ratings then you try to be like them to increase your ratings too.)

And Alan Colmes...I have disdain for Alan Colmes because he is a professiona a** kisser. Kissing the a** of someone admirable is bad enough but kissing the a** of Sean Hannity is as low as it gets. I haven't read Al Franken's book "Lying Liars..." but I was flipping through it in the bookstore one day and it had a device that summed up Colmes perfectly. In the chapter about Hannity & Colmes it printed Colmes' name in a really small font. It gets to how Colmes is so meek and timid on the show, constantly deferring to Hannity. It's pathetic.

Phrost · 4th February 2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Number Six
I can't stand Sean Hannity. He's awful. He make O'Reilly look like the most fair minded person that ever existed by comparison. (BTW, it may be my imagination but it seems like O'Reilly's show has gotten worse lately in the sense that fewer dissenting opinions are allowed. And the Joe Scarborough Show, which used to be a fair minded albeit right leaning show, has gotten a lot worse lately in the same way. I guess the idea is that if Fox is getting the higher ratings then you try to be like them to increase your ratings too.)

And Alan Colmes...I have disdain for Alan Colmes because he is a professiona a** kisser. Kissing the a** of someone admirable is bad enough but kissing the a** of Sean Hannity is as low as it gets. I haven't read Al Franken's book "Lying Liars..." but I was flipping through it in the bookstore one day and it had a device that summed up Colmes perfectly. In the chapter about Hannity & Colmes it printed Colmes' name in a really small font. It gets to how Colmes is so meek and timid on the show, constantly deferring to Hannity. It's pathetic.

I totally agree. They should get rid of Colmes and make it Hannity and Coulter.

[That was a facetious comment, for the benefit of the context-impaired like Nasarius.]

I caught Colmes' radio show one night and he had on a psychic. It fits the pattern though: Jesus woos on the Right, and psycho-woos on the Left.

crimresearch · 4th February 2005, 11:22 AM

"Gotta love the Internet"

You talkin' to me??

BPSCG · 4th February 2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Luke T.
Count me as one of the conservatives who don't like Sean Hannity. I have never heard his radio show, but I've seen him on Fox, and he does indeed make Colmes look good.

No, you got it backwards. Hannity is the good-looking one; Colmes looks like a horse.

Actually, I've watched the show about a half dozen times and got fed up. Though I have to admit, I thought it was fascinating when Hannity asked Kate Michaelman (president of NARAL - abortion-rights lobby) if abortion was ever wrong, and she danced all around the question but wouldn't answer it, despite Hannity's repeated demands.

Nevertheless, the show is nothing but a shout-a-thon - I've never learned anything important from watching it. Just an excuse to watch some liberal loony or conservative loony get beaten up by the host, and not all that different from bear-baiting.

BPSCG · 4th February 2005, 07:06 PM

So what liberal pundits do all you libs hate?

crimresearch · 4th February 2005, 07:43 PM

Pundits? Or did you mean Carville, Franken, Sen. Robert Byrd, etc?

Mycroft · 4th February 2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by a_unique_person
That seems to be the standard line. The conservatives who love Muslims, but hate them, but they really love them, but they hate them.

Kinda like the liberals who "love" them, but think of them as children.

Bruce · 4th February 2005, 09:13 PM

I had a topic on Sean Hannity here in case anyone missed it.

I used to listen to him on my way home from work because there was nothing better to listen to on the radio. For people like me, who are leaning futher to the right as we get older, it's good to listen to people like Sean Hannity, just to remind us of how stupid it would be to cast off our doubts and actually join the Republican party. I'm also glad that the lefties are pushing to have their own talk radio programs, to cure people who may consider joining the Democratic party.

Phrost · 8th February 2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by Nasarius
Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist?

Moron.

I'm just bumping this so I can add in keywords in case I need to search for dirt on Nasarius later.

Nasarius reading comprehension "lack of" breakdown public education system

Tony · 8th February 2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by Phrost
I'm just bumping this so I can add in keywords in case I need to search for dirt on Nasarius later.

Nasarius reading comprehension "lack of" breakdown public education system

Ohh god, this has got to be the most ironic post ever on this forum. I'll for Nasarius to see it before I explain.

I just want this post enshrined before Phrost has a chance to delete/edit it.

davefoc · 8th February 2005, 10:06 AM

I am not sure that I qualify as a conservative (I have voted Republican most of my life though), but I find Hannity disgusting. It is disappointing to me that there are enough people out there that consider his kind of crap entertaining enough that he can find an audience.

Michael Savage was mentioned above. Based on my limited sampling of the two guys I would say that Hannity is more consistently a jerk while Savage is occasionally a more extreme jerk than Hanitty ever is.

3rd February 2005, 10:27 AM	#1
Nova Land / Tagger Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Whitleyville, TN Posts: 5,157	Why (some) Conservatives Hate Sean Hannity Not sure if I should post this in Humor or in Politics, but since it isn't written by Peter David I decided to go with the latter. I've recently begun visiting Daily Kos every day or so to check in on the Jeff Gannon story they've been investigating, and while there today I spotted this very funny item in a diary entitled "Confessions of a Former Dittohead: Why We Hated Sean Hannity". Quote: ... Another great moment in punditry came when Sean claimed Democrats were endorsing the torture of children by opposing the war. Seriously! My dittohead business partner and I still laugh about it. During one of his beat-down segments with some poor, outgunned Democrat he had an exchange that went something like: Hannity: "Saddam Hussein was torturing children. You opposed the war. Therefore you support the torture of children. Why do you support the torture of children! Guest: "Um...I don't think..." Hannity: "Answer the question! You're not answering the question! Guest: "I'm trying to..." Hannity: "ANSWER THE QUESTION! WHY DO YOU TORTURE CHILDREN!!!" Coulter: "She's avoiding the question, Sean." Cameron: "I don't think she's going to answer you, Sean." Hume: "It's a simple question." Colmes: "Why won't you answer his question?" Guest: "HEY! I thought you were supposed to be on my side?" Colmes: "No, the show doesn't work that way." Edited to remove Hannity's final line, because I think Colmes' line is funnier and don't want to detract from it.

3rd February 2005, 11:17 AM	#3
crimresearch Alumbrado Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,618	I'm glad you all have so much spare time and such an abiding interest in those folks, that you not only keep up with what they say, but apparently hang on every word...I'm sure their sponsors, and their bankers are glad too.
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3rd February 2005, 12:14 PM	#5
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,944	My favorite Hannity spiel, the "will you repudiate the tactics of this person?". I honestly don't comprehend how his radio show does well except that it comes on after Limbaugh in most markets. Unfortunately I am sometimes obliged to watch him and Colmes on TV since they occasionally have guests I would like to hear. A lot of people bash Colmes for letting Shawn bully the guests. I think its a good tactic. To me Shawn always looks like a bore who has no real arguement. Why bash Colmes for not being an equal bore? Colmes really is a talented broadcaster. If he had a prettier face I bet he could have his own TV show. Heck, I wish his radio show was carried in this area.
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3rd February 2005, 12:25 PM	#7
crimresearch Alumbrado Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,618	These folks all sound like second rate Joe Pyne and Alan Burke imitators...have they had any 65 year old vets go over the desk after them yet? It is bread and circuses for the masses...if they didn't have people from the other side faithfully tuning in to be outraged, they wouldn't draw enough to be where they are. Oh, and as far as the Vietnam comment, I suppose it all depends on what you mean by 'Canada'.
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3rd February 2005, 01:04 PM	#9
Luke T. Guest Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 14,759	Count me as one of the conservatives who don't like Sean Hannity. I have never heard his radio show, but I've seen him on Fox, and he does indeed make Colmes look good. I've read one, maybe two, Coulter articles on the net, and seen her once, maybe twice, on TV. Don't have much of an opinion except that she has nice, long hair and in my single days I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for eating crackers.
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3rd February 2005, 11:02 AM	#2
HarryKeogh Catholic School Survivor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,342	Another example of this mindset... http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527 Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic. Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?" McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam." Coulter: "I don't think that's right." McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam." Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?" McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No." Coulter: "I think you're wrong." McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam." Coulter: "I think you're wrong." McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada." Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops." McKeown: "No." Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

3rd February 2005, 11:41 AM	#4
HarryKeogh Catholic School Survivor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,342	Quote: Originally posted by crimresearch I'm glad you all have so much spare time and such an abiding interest in those folks, that you not only keep up with what they say, but apparently hang on every word...I'm sure their sponsors, and their bankers are glad too. actually heard the clip on Air America radio (the liberal-biased network) a week or two ago and I just googled for the transcript of the call. Didn't require that much spare time and I didn't have to add to Coulter or Hannity's ratings. I don't watch Coulter or Hannity. They're liars whose pants are on fire.

3rd February 2005, 12:22 PM	#6
Batman Jr. Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,255	Me: You supported the war. In wars, our troops die. That means you want our troops to die. Why do you support the execution of our troops!?

3rd February 2005, 12:26 PM	#8
Valmorian Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 260	Quote: Originally posted by HarryKeogh Another example of this mindset... http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527 Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic. Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?" McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam." Coulter: "I don't think that's right." McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam." Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?" McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No." Coulter: "I think you're wrong." McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam." Coulter: "I think you're wrong." McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada." Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops." McKeown: "No." Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that." Wow that's severely stupid. She could, of course, just ask any Canadian. :P

3rd February 2005, 01:50 PM	#10
crimresearch Alumbrado Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,618	Quote: Originally posted by Luke T. I've read one, maybe two, Coulter articles on the net, and seen her once, maybe twice, on TV. Don't have much of an opinion except that she has nice, long hair and in my single days I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for eating crackers. What else would she be doing there? (Thanks Normy)
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3rd February 2005, 03:49 PM	#11
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,006	Hannity is such a jackass! I cringe when I hear his mindless rants and badgering of guests. He makes O'Reilly look quite moderate by comparison.

3rd February 2005, 05:32 PM	#12
Graculus Scholar Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 88	Quote: Originally posted by HarryKeogh Another example of this mindset... http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527 Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic. Oh, I thought the highlight of the evening was when O'Reilly called the Globe & Mail , "the Havana Times". We missed the next two minutes we were laughing so hard. For those that are unfamiliar with Canadian media, the Glob and Snail is the conservative (note the small "c") national newspaper. They are, however, pretty fair in their coverage. They made O'Reilly cry, naughty CBC
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3rd February 2005, 06:07 PM	#13
UserGoogol Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,074	Yeah, but a conservative in Canada is like... Stalin, right?
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3rd February 2005, 06:13 PM	#14
Phrost The Fighting Skeptic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cowtown, Missouri Posts: 1,656	Quote: Originally posted by WildCat Hannity is such a jackass! I cringe when I hear his mindless rants and badgering of guests. He makes O'Reilly look quite moderate by comparison. O'Reilly is a moderate, like it or not. He just leans Right more often than not. He took the position that the Colorado professor who spoke out in favor of the 9/11 attacks, should not be fired from his job when all the Republicans were calling for him to be lynched. Anyway, I kind of like Hannity (except his pro-religion garbage) but still found that funny. It's funny because it's soewhat true.
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3rd February 2005, 07:27 PM	#15
Graculus Scholar Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 88	Quote: Originally posted by Phrost O'Reilly is a moderate, like it or not. Now that's funny. Canadian political spectrum for the rest of you: Socialism....NDP......Liberals.....old PC party ... Reformatories... old Reform.... Stalin..... O'Reilly ......................................^ ....^ ................................^ .......................... European ..Canadian ................American ............................. centre ....centre .......................centre
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3rd February 2005, 08:39 PM	#16
peptoabysmal Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,467	Quote: Originally posted by HarryKeogh Another example of this mindset... http://wwww.thisisrumorcontrol.org/node/1527 Last night, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's excellent investigative news program, "the Fifth Estate," broadcast a one-hour special on the hijacking of the American media by conservative bullies -- whose knowledge of foreign policy seems to run the gamut from A to B and tends toward scream-o-ramas in which dissenters are accused of being unpatriotic. Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?" McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam." Coulter: "I don't think that's right." McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam." Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?" McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No." Coulter: "I think you're wrong." McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam." Coulter: "I think you're wrong." McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada." Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops." McKeown: "No." Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that." Wow, are the Military Order of Canadian Vietnam Veterans going to be surprised to hear about this!

3rd February 2005, 08:48 PM	#17
Nasarius Muse Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 672	Quote: Originally posted by Phrost It's funny because it's soewhat true. Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist? Moron.
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3rd February 2005, 08:56 PM	#18
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,517	Quote: Originally posted by peptoabysmal Wow, are the Military Order of Canadian Vietnam Veterans going to be surprised to hear about this! Um, dude, those guys are folks in Canada who fought for the US in Vietnam. If you look at their "About Us" pages, it says specifically: Quote: Members of the Armed Forces of Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Thailand and the United States are eligible to request consideration for membership. Canada did not send troops to Vietnam.
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3rd February 2005, 08:57 PM	#19
Phrost The Fighting Skeptic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cowtown, Missouri Posts: 1,656	Quote: Originally posted by Nasarius Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist? Moron. Hmm, I misspelled "somewhat".
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3rd February 2005, 09:12 PM	#20
HarryKeogh Catholic School Survivor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,342	Quote: Originally posted by Cleon Um, dude, those guys are folks in Canada who fought for the US in Vietnam. If you look at their "About Us" pages, it says specifically: Canada did not send troops to Vietnam. maybe Peptoabysmal could take a page from Ann Coulter's book: Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

3rd February 2005, 09:34 PM	#21
crimresearch Alumbrado Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,618	Like I said...it all depends on what you mean by 'Canada'...
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3rd February 2005, 09:48 PM	#22
Dorian Gray Hypocrisy Detector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 20,195	Hannity's jealousy of Rush Limbaugh is so transparent. Instead of dittoes, his audience is Hannitized. And like most conservative talk radio guys, you are either a good ass-kissing American, or it's "Shut up! Shut up!" Speaking of Limbaugh, I think it's hilarious that he has taken to calling himself "America's anchorman" - since he's the anchor AND the reporter AND the vetter AND the commercial. AND full of sht. Then you've got Michael Savage, who calls for the nuking of Mecca and Medina one week, then tells stories about his Muslim friends the next. All of them are just like Kerry was on Meet the Press* - completely unaware that the election is over.
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3rd February 2005, 10:11 PM	#23
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Quote: Originally posted by crimresearch I'm glad you all have so much spare time and such an abiding interest in those folks, that you not only keep up with what they say, but apparently hang on every word...I'm sure their sponsors, and their bankers are glad too. I think it is important to expose these liars for what they are. Sure we can just brush off these idiots, but we are doing an injustice by letting them go unchecked, allowing them to preach this stuff.

3rd February 2005, 10:21 PM	#24
peptoabysmal Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,467	Quote: Originally posted by Cleon Um, dude, those guys are folks in Canada who fought for the US in Vietnam. If you look at their "About Us" pages, it says specifically: Canada did not send troops to Vietnam. I didn't want anyone to walk away from this thinking no Canadians ever served. In fact, more Canadians joined the US forces than there were draft dodgers who went into Canada. Lighten up dude.

4th February 2005, 02:03 AM	#25
Nova Land / Tagger Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Whitleyville, TN Posts: 5,157	Phrost: Anyway, I kind of like Hannity (except his pro-religion garbage) but still found that funny. It's funny because it's somewhat true. Nasarius: Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist? Moron. An interesting thing about pronouns such as it is that it's often easy to misinterpret what the pronoun is referring to. When I read Phrost's post, I interpreted it to refer to the "transcript" in the opening post, so that the meaning of what Phrost is saying would be: Even though I kind of like Hannity, I still found the take-off on his program funny because it was somewhat true that Hannity and Colmes really do behave that way. That's something I find admirable: being able to find humor even when the target of the humor is someone or something one agrees with. In contrast, it sounds like Nasarius heard the it to refer to the kind of illogic Hannity is using in the piece. That interpretation did not occur to me in reading Phrost's post, and even re-reading it I think it to be less likely than my interpretation. But it shows how easy it is for different people to read or hear things differently, even when we think we have expressed ourselves clearly.

4th February 2005, 03:51 AM	#26
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mt Disappointment Posts: 33,326	Quote: Originally posted by Dorian Gray Then you've got Michael Savage, who calls for the nuking of Mecca and Medina one week, then tells stories about his Muslim friends the next. That seems to be the standard line. The conservatives who love Muslims, but hate them, but they really love them, but they hate them.
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4th February 2005, 09:37 AM	#27
Phrost The Fighting Skeptic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cowtown, Missouri Posts: 1,656	Quote: Originally posted by Nova Land Phrost: Anyway, I kind of like Hannity (except his pro-religion garbage) but still found that funny. It's funny because it's somewhat true. Nasarius: Do you support invading North Korea? No? Then you obviously support communism. Why are you a communist, you communist? Moron. An interesting thing about pronouns such as it is that it's often easy to misinterpret what the pronoun is referring to. When I read Phrost's post, I interpreted it to refer to the "transcript" in the opening post, so that the meaning of what Phrost is saying would be: Even though I kind of like Hannity, I still found the take-off on his program funny because it was somewhat true that Hannity and Colmes really do behave that way. That's something I find admirable: being able to find humor even when the target of the humor is someone or something one agrees with. In contrast, it sounds like Nasarius heard the it to refer to the kind of illogic Hannity is using in the piece. That interpretation did not occur to me in reading Phrost's post, and even re-reading it I think it to be less likely than my interpretation. But it shows how easy it is for different people to read or hear things differently, even when we think we have expressed ourselves clearly. Interesting. I didn't even bother to try and get my head around why I was being called a moron for appreciating humor at Hannity's expense. Gotta love the Internet.
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4th February 2005, 09:42 AM	#28
Phrost The Fighting Skeptic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cowtown, Missouri Posts: 1,656	Quote: Originally posted by a_unique_person That seems to be the standard line. The conservatives who love Muslims, but hate them, but they really love them, but they hate them. I've only caught his show once or twice. Best line I heard was his intro: "Coming to you live, and un-beheaded". It helps if you listen to talk radio in the right frame of mind. My term for it is "Punditainment".
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4th February 2005, 09:51 AM	#29
Charlie Monoxide Wag Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 2,761	I've suffered through a few afternoon listens of Hannity. The man is truly insufferable. I'm always amazed (but have moved to deep cynicism) that rightwing GOP'ers love this guy as well as the oxycontin addict. The message these goofballs deliver Is easy to accept if you don't question anything they say. They seem (to me) like something out of 1984. Charlie (you're a great american) Monoxide
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4th February 2005, 10:10 AM	#30
Number Six JREF Kid Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,017	I can't stand Sean Hannity. He's awful. He make O'Reilly look like the most fair minded person that ever existed by comparison. (BTW, it may be my imagination but it seems like O'Reilly's show has gotten worse lately in the sense that fewer dissenting opinions are allowed. And the Joe Scarborough Show, which used to be a fair minded albeit right leaning show, has gotten a lot worse lately in the same way. I guess the idea is that if Fox is getting the higher ratings then you try to be like them to increase your ratings too.) And Alan Colmes...I have disdain for Alan Colmes because he is a professiona a kisser. Kissing the a of someone admirable is bad enough but kissing the a** of Sean Hannity is as low as it gets. I haven't read Al Franken's book "Lying Liars..." but I was flipping through it in the bookstore one day and it had a device that summed up Colmes perfectly. In the chapter about Hannity & Colmes it printed Colmes' name in a really small font. It gets to how Colmes is so meek and timid on the show, constantly deferring to Hannity. It's pathetic.
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4th February 2005, 10:34 AM	#31
Phrost The Fighting Skeptic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cowtown, Missouri Posts: 1,656	Quote: Originally posted by Number Six I can't stand Sean Hannity. He's awful. He make O'Reilly look like the most fair minded person that ever existed by comparison. (BTW, it may be my imagination but it seems like O'Reilly's show has gotten worse lately in the sense that fewer dissenting opinions are allowed. And the Joe Scarborough Show, which used to be a fair minded albeit right leaning show, has gotten a lot worse lately in the same way. I guess the idea is that if Fox is getting the higher ratings then you try to be like them to increase your ratings too.) And Alan Colmes...I have disdain for Alan Colmes because he is a professiona a kisser. Kissing the a of someone admirable is bad enough but kissing the a** of Sean Hannity is as low as it gets. I haven't read Al Franken's book "Lying Liars..." but I was flipping through it in the bookstore one day and it had a device that summed up Colmes perfectly. In the chapter about Hannity & Colmes it printed Colmes' name in a really small font. It gets to how Colmes is so meek and timid on the show, constantly deferring to Hannity. It's pathetic. I totally agree. They should get rid of Colmes and make it Hannity and Coulter. [That was a facetious comment, for the benefit of the context-impaired like Nasarius.] I caught Colmes' radio show one night and he had on a psychic. It fits the pattern though: Jesus woos on the Right, and psycho-woos on the Left.
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4th February 2005, 11:22 AM	#32
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4th February 2005, 07:01 PM	#33
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Quote: Originally posted by Luke T. Count me as one of the conservatives who don't like Sean Hannity. I have never heard his radio show, but I've seen him on Fox, and he does indeed make Colmes look good. No, you got it backwards. Hannity is the good-looking one; Colmes looks like a horse. Actually, I've watched the show about a half dozen times and got fed up. Though I have to admit, I thought it was fascinating when Hannity asked Kate Michaelman (president of NARAL - abortion-rights lobby) if abortion was ever wrong, and she danced all around the question but wouldn't answer it, despite Hannity's repeated demands. Nevertheless, the show is nothing but a shout-a-thon - I've never learned anything important from watching it. Just an excuse to watch some liberal loony or conservative loony get beaten up by the host, and not all that different from bear-baiting.
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4th February 2005, 07:06 PM	#34
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	So what liberal pundits do all you libs hate?
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4th February 2005, 07:43 PM	#35
crimresearch Alumbrado Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10,618	Pundits? Or did you mean Carville, Franken, Sen. Robert Byrd, etc?
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