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Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 05:17 AM

Pro-Syrian demonstrators

Anti-Syrian demonstrators

HarryKeogh · 2nd March 2005, 05:33 AM

it's obvious that Anti-Syrian demonstrators are 2-3 times hotter than Pro-Syrian demonstrators.

Go Anti-Syria!

Hutch · 2nd March 2005, 06:24 AM

Rather, 2 pics = Masterful propaganda.

Seriously, I do hope it ends well, but to simplify the matter to 2 pics does not begin to do justice to the situation.

I predict we'll get the 2,000 words anyway--probably on this thread alone.

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hutch
Rather, 2 pics = Masterful propaganda.

Seriously, I do hope it ends well, but to simplify the matter to 2 pics does not begin to do justice to the situation.

I predict we'll get the 2,000 words anyway--probably on this thread alone.

Here's the first 1000

Tony · 2nd March 2005, 07:40 AM

Lets put this in an American context

"Conservative" Americans:

Pro-Freedom Americans

I always get a chuckle when the "right" applauds things in other countries that, when and if they happen in America, they condemn as "un-patriotic".

Tony · 2nd March 2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister

More evidence for Harry's thesis.

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tony
Lets put this in an American context

"Conservative" Americans:

Pro-Freedom Americans

I always get a chuckle when the "right" applauds things in other countries that, when and if they happen in America, they condemn as "un-patriotic".

un-patriotic? ! ?? !!!

I admit to being somewhat 'right' in most of my political ideals but I can't imagine why anyone from my side of the fence would see this as un-patriotic.

As an aside to the other two posters: yes, babes they appear to be. Also note the rather flat fingers clearly visible in the last pic. It is a lebanise trait, I'm told. They'd make great guitarists.

BPSCG · 2nd March 2005, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
Also note the rather flat fingers clearly visible in the last pic. It is a lebanise trait, I'm told. They'd make great guitarists.

You're checking out the fingers???

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by BPSCG
You're checking out the fingers???

Call it a fetish.

Tony · 2nd March 2005, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
I admit to being somewhat 'right' in most of my political ideals but I can't imagine why anyone from my side of the fence would see this as un-patriotic.

I guess you don't remember the "right's" response to all the anti-government/anti-bush protests leading up to the war in Iraq.

Cleon · 2nd March 2005, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by HarryKeogh
it's obvious that Anti-Syrian demonstrators are 2-3 times hotter than Pro-Syrian demonstrators.

Go Anti-Syria!

Erm, 2-3?

I would agree with your sentiment, except instead of the word "times" I would use "orders of magnitude."

(Oddly enough, every Arab woman I know--which is quite a few, including the gf--is absolutely frikkin' gorgeous. It must be something in the water.)

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Tony
I guess you don't remember the "right's" response to all the anti-government/anti-bush protests leading up to the war in Iraq.

I'm not sure which of the two of us is very confused but...well, yes, I'm sure, it's you. If I PM you my private address, will you send me a sample of whatever it is you're smoking?

You seem to be equating the act of protesting with being un-patriotic. No one on the right feels that way so far as I know. Now, if the protesters were burning the flag instead of proudly waving it, that might be seen as un-patriotic.

Tony · 2nd March 2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
I'm not sure which of the two of us is very confused but...well, yes, I'm sure, it's you. If I PM you my private address, will you send me a sample of whatever it is you're smoking?

It's you.

PM? No, you might be a cop.

Quote:

You seem to be equating the act of protesting with being un-patriotic. No one on the right feels that way so far as I know. Now, if the protesters were burning the flag instead of proudly waving it, that might be seen as un-patriotic.

Yes, it's definitely you. The fact that you interpret me to be equating "the act of protesting with being un-patriotic" can attest to your confusion.

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Tony
Yes, it's definitely you. The fact that you interpret me to be equating "the act of protesting with being un-patriotic" can attest to your confusion.

Well, explain how it is you think the right would consider this as un-patriotic? I am completely befuddled as to your point. Are you suggesting that because these protesters are not carrying American flags that the right might consider them un-patriotic? That's the only other explaination I can infer.

As to the first point: what if I say pretty-pretty please?

BPSCG · 2nd March 2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Cleon
(Oddly enough, every Arab woman I know--which is quite a few, including the gf--is absolutely frikkin' gorgeous. It must be something in the water.)

How can you tell?

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by BPSCG
How can you tell?

Well, that one has pretty, yet understandably sad eyes.

Darat · 2nd March 2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by BPSCG
How can you tell?

...snip...

arab <> muslim .....

BPSCG · 2nd March 2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Darat
arab <> muslim .....

Nice try. I googled "Saudi women" to get these pictures.

Saudi = Arab

Cleon · 2nd March 2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by Darat
arab <> muslim .....

And not all Muslim women wear a burqa or hijab. In fact, very few outside of Muslim countries do. (Even in a lot of Muslim countries, such as Indonesia and Turkey, it's relatively rare.)

My gf is Muslim, though not particularly religious. She doesn't cover up her face or hair at all--which is fine by me, as she's nice to look at.

Cleon · 2nd March 2005, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by BPSCG
Nice try. I googled "Saudi women" to get these pictures.

Saudi = Arab

But Arab != Saudi.

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by Cleon
My gf is Muslim, though not particularly religious. She doesn't cover up her face or hair at all--which is fine by me, as she's nice to look at.

Which is a capital offense in many arab nations.

Cleon · 2nd March 2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
Which is a capital offense in many arab nations.

Not as far as I know, it isn't. It might be a crime, but not capital AFAIK.

Tony · 2nd March 2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
Well, explain how it is you think the right would consider this as un-patriotic?

Consider what un-patriotic?

Quote:

I am completely befuddled as to your point.

I see that.

Quote:

Are you suggesting that because these protesters are not carrying American flags that the right might consider them un-patriotic?

Absolutely not. The fact that you're asking this speaks of your confusion.

Rob Lister · 2nd March 2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Tony
Consider what un-patriotic?

I see that.

Absolutely not. The fact that you're asking this speaks of your confusion.

So...explain your assertion. It appears to me (and I suspect everyone else) that it is you that is confused.

Tony · 2nd March 2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
So...explain your assertion.

I did in my first post. You obviously have trouble comprehending simple words and concepts.

punchdrunk · 2nd March 2005, 10:53 AM

Does anyone know if there have been anti-US demonstrations in Iraq since the beginning of our occupation? Since the elections? I've searched and did not find any.

Assuming Iraq continues (or starts, depending on your point of view) on the road to democracy, should we expect more anti-US demonstrations by the Iraqi people? I say yes; they don't like the occupation - who would? - and as they get their democratic 'sea legs' underneath them, I would expect them to become more vocal about it.

geni · 2nd March 2005, 10:56 AM

I'm trying to decide which photo depectics realists. Histroy suggests it could be either.

Skeptic · 2nd March 2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by geni
I'm trying to decide which photo depectics realists. Histroy suggests it could be either.

True, true... but isn't the "realist" position of always predicting failure a type of intellectual cowardice? Human nature being what it is, if things work out well, people tend to forget the predictions of failure, while, on the other hand, if things go badly, those who predicted success are crucified.

BPSCG · 2nd March 2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by rhoadp
Does anyone know if there have been anti-US demonstrations in Iraq since the beginning of our occupation? Since the elections? I've searched and did not find any.

You don't consider car bombs and insurrection to be anti-US demonstrations?

punchdrunk · 2nd March 2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by BPSCG
You don't consider car bombs and insurrection to be anti-US demonstrations?

Not of the type currently going on in Lebanon. I'm referring to rallies and lawful demonstrations, not criminal or terrorist acts. I assume Iraqis now have the right to peacefully assemble?

geni · 2nd March 2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Skeptic
True, true... but isn't the "realist" position of always predicting failure a type of intellectual cowardice? Human nature being what it is, if things work out well, people tend to forget the predictions of failure, while, on the other hand, if things go badly, those who predicted success are crucified.

I'm not predicting failer for either side.

Nyarlathotep · 2nd March 2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by geni
I'm not predicting failer for either side.

I will. At least if those pictures are a true indication of the methods used by the opposing sides.

An angry man with a gun will get his way over a hot chick armed only with a flag and a smile nearly every time. It has precisely squat to do with who is right or who is wrong, it's just the way life is.

Grammatron · 2nd March 2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
I will. At least if those pictures are a true indication of the methods used by the opposing sides.

An angry man with a gun will get his way over a hot chick armed only with a flag and a smile nearly every time. It has precisely squat to do with who is right or who is wrong, it's just the way life is.

Unless the hot chick has US and France behind her.

Foghorn Leghorn · 2nd March 2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Rob Lister
Here's the first 1000

They misspelled independence. Go guys with guns?

geni · 2nd March 2005, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
I will. At least if those pictures are a true indication of the methods used by the opposing sides.

An angry man with a gun will get his way over a hot chick armed only with a flag and a smile nearly every time. It has precisely squat to do with who is right or who is wrong, it's just the way life is.

Not really have a look at how Morocco manged to get hold of the Spanish Sahara (ignore how badly they are doing at holding onto it for a minute).

Cleon · 2nd March 2005, 01:06 PM

The real question here, of course, is not who "wins" or "loses," but whether the situation will be resolved without a re-emergence of the civil war that came close to destroying the country completely.

I know many on this board will consider any outcome that deals a defeat to Syria a good thing, but that is NOT the case. Nor is the situation one of "expanding democracy" or "domino effect" or whatever the Bush propagandic meme of the day is.

A civil war would create another Yugoslavia. In other words, the international community would have to occupy it with "peacekeepers" to keep the constant violence to a dull roar.

Right now, Lebanon is a democracy of sorts. After a civil war, it's doubtful that it would be.

geni · 2nd March 2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Cleon
A civil war would create another Yugoslavia. In other words, the international community would have to occupy it with "peacekeepers" to keep the constant violence to a dull roar.

I'm having a hard time comeing up with the names of many parts of the international community that would be insane enough to be involved in that war.

Nyarlathotep · 2nd March 2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Grammatron
Unless the hot chick has US and France behind her.

Then she has more than a smile and a flag. She has bigger guns, she's just got someone else holding them.

Cleopatra · 2nd March 2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Cleon
Erm, 2-3?

I would agree with your sentiment, except instead of the word "times" I would use "orders of magnitude."

(Oddly enough, every Arab woman I know--which is quite a few, including the gf--is absolutely frikkin' gorgeous. It must be something in the water.)

Lebanese women are proverbially gorgeous anyway although I don't know what makes you believe that the woman in the pic is an Arab

. My husband's first wife was or Lebanese origin, she had a title like Miss Universe or something like that.

Lebanese people are very good looking but completely useless. Sorry I am biased against them.

geni · 2nd March 2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Cleopatra
Lebanese people are very good looking but completely useless. Sorry I am biased against them.

On the basis that lebanon is a british construct I feel that bias is pretty stupid (hint there is really no such thing as Lebanese people).

2nd March 2005, 05:17 AM	#1
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Syria/Lebanon - 2 pics=2000 words? Pro-Syrian demonstrators Anti-Syrian demonstrators

2nd March 2005, 06:24 AM	#3
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2nd March 2005, 07:40 AM	#5
Tony Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 13,806	Lets put this in an American context "Conservative" Americans: Pro-Freedom Americans I always get a chuckle when the "right" applauds things in other countries that, when and if they happen in America, they condemn as "un-patriotic".
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2nd March 2005, 07:41 AM	#6
Tony Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 13,806	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister More evidence for Harry's thesis.
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2nd March 2005, 07:53 AM	#8
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister Also note the rather flat fingers clearly visible in the last pic. It is a lebanise trait, I'm told. They'd make great guitarists. You're checking out the fingers???
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2nd March 2005, 05:33 AM	#2
HarryKeogh Catholic School Survivor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,342	it's obvious that Anti-Syrian demonstrators are 2-3 times hotter than Pro-Syrian demonstrators. Go Anti-Syria!

2nd March 2005, 07:26 AM	#4
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by Hutch Rather, 2 pics = Masterful propaganda. Seriously, I do hope it ends well, but to simplify the matter to 2 pics does not begin to do justice to the situation. I predict we'll get the 2,000 words anyway--probably on this thread alone. Here's the first 1000

2nd March 2005, 07:51 AM	#7
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by Tony Lets put this in an American context "Conservative" Americans: Pro-Freedom Americans I always get a chuckle when the "right" applauds things in other countries that, when and if they happen in America, they condemn as "un-patriotic". un-patriotic? ! ?? !!! I admit to being somewhat 'right' in most of my political ideals but I can't imagine why anyone from my side of the fence would see this as un-patriotic. As an aside to the other two posters: yes, babes they appear to be. Also note the rather flat fingers clearly visible in the last pic. It is a lebanise trait, I'm told. They'd make great guitarists.

2nd March 2005, 07:55 AM	#9
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by BPSCG You're checking out the fingers??? Call it a fetish.

2nd March 2005, 08:04 AM	#10
Tony Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 13,806	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister I admit to being somewhat 'right' in most of my political ideals but I can't imagine why anyone from my side of the fence would see this as un-patriotic. I guess you don't remember the "right's" response to all the anti-government/anti-bush protests leading up to the war in Iraq.
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2nd March 2005, 08:04 AM	#11
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,610	Quote: Originally posted by HarryKeogh it's obvious that Anti-Syrian demonstrators are 2-3 times hotter than Pro-Syrian demonstrators. Go Anti-Syria! Erm, 2-3? I would agree with your sentiment, except instead of the word "times" I would use "orders of magnitude." (Oddly enough, every Arab woman I know--which is quite a few, including the gf--is absolutely frikkin' gorgeous. It must be something in the water.)
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2nd March 2005, 08:14 AM	#12
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by Tony I guess you don't remember the "right's" response to all the anti-government/anti-bush protests leading up to the war in Iraq. I'm not sure which of the two of us is very confused but...well, yes, I'm sure, it's you. If I PM you my private address, will you send me a sample of whatever it is you're smoking? You seem to be equating the act of protesting with being un-patriotic. No one on the right feels that way so far as I know. Now, if the protesters were burning the flag instead of proudly waving it, that might be seen as un-patriotic.

2nd March 2005, 08:22 AM	#13
Tony Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 13,806	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister I'm not sure which of the two of us is very confused but...well, yes, I'm sure, it's you. If I PM you my private address, will you send me a sample of whatever it is you're smoking? It's you. PM? No, you might be a cop. Quote: You seem to be equating the act of protesting with being un-patriotic. No one on the right feels that way so far as I know. Now, if the protesters were burning the flag instead of proudly waving it, that might be seen as un-patriotic. Yes, it's definitely you. The fact that you interpret me to be equating "the act of protesting with being un-patriotic" can attest to your confusion.
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2nd March 2005, 08:34 AM	#14
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by Tony Yes, it's definitely you. The fact that you interpret me to be equating "the act of protesting with being un-patriotic" can attest to your confusion. Well, explain how it is you think the right would consider this as un-patriotic? I am completely befuddled as to your point. Are you suggesting that because these protesters are not carrying American flags that the right might consider them un-patriotic? That's the only other explaination I can infer. As to the first point: what if I say pretty-pretty please?

2nd March 2005, 08:35 AM	#15
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Quote: Originally posted by Cleon (Oddly enough, every Arab woman I know--which is quite a few, including the gf--is absolutely frikkin' gorgeous. It must be something in the water.) How can you tell?
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2nd March 2005, 08:40 AM	#16
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by BPSCG How can you tell? Well, that one has pretty, yet understandably sad eyes.

2nd March 2005, 08:41 AM	#17
Darat Lackey Administrator / JREF Forum Liaison Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 64,974	Quote: Originally posted by BPSCG How can you tell? ...snip... arab <> muslim .....
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2nd March 2005, 08:42 AM	#18
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Quote: Originally posted by Darat arab <> muslim ..... Nice try. I googled "Saudi women" to get these pictures. Saudi = Arab
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2nd March 2005, 08:44 AM	#19
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,610	Quote: Originally posted by Darat arab <> muslim ..... And not all Muslim women wear a burqa or hijab. In fact, very few outside of Muslim countries do. (Even in a lot of Muslim countries, such as Indonesia and Turkey, it's relatively rare.) My gf is Muslim, though not particularly religious. She doesn't cover up her face or hair at all--which is fine by me, as she's nice to look at.
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2nd March 2005, 08:45 AM	#20
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,610	Quote: Originally posted by BPSCG Nice try. I googled "Saudi women" to get these pictures. Saudi = Arab But Arab != Saudi.
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2nd March 2005, 08:47 AM	#21
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by Cleon My gf is Muslim, though not particularly religious. She doesn't cover up her face or hair at all--which is fine by me, as she's nice to look at. Which is a capital offense in many arab nations.

2nd March 2005, 08:56 AM	#22
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,610	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister Which is a capital offense in many arab nations. Not as far as I know, it isn't. It might be a crime, but not capital AFAIK.
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2nd March 2005, 09:15 AM	#23
Tony Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 13,806	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister Well, explain how it is you think the right would consider this as un-patriotic? Consider what un-patriotic? Quote: I am completely befuddled as to your point. I see that. Quote: Are you suggesting that because these protesters are not carrying American flags that the right might consider them un-patriotic? Absolutely not. The fact that you're asking this speaks of your confusion.
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2nd March 2005, 09:44 AM	#24
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by Tony Consider what un-patriotic? I see that. Absolutely not. The fact that you're asking this speaks of your confusion. So...explain your assertion. It appears to me (and I suspect everyone else) that it is you that is confused.

2nd March 2005, 09:47 AM	#25
Tony Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 13,806	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister So...explain your assertion. I did in my first post. You obviously have trouble comprehending simple words and concepts.
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2nd March 2005, 10:53 AM	#26
punchdrunk Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,003	Does anyone know if there have been anti-US demonstrations in Iraq since the beginning of our occupation? Since the elections? I've searched and did not find any. Assuming Iraq continues (or starts, depending on your point of view) on the road to democracy, should we expect more anti-US demonstrations by the Iraqi people? I say yes; they don't like the occupation - who would? - and as they get their democratic 'sea legs' underneath them, I would expect them to become more vocal about it.

2nd March 2005, 10:56 AM	#27
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,640	I'm trying to decide which photo depectics realists. Histroy suggests it could be either.

2nd March 2005, 10:59 AM	#28
Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the chessboard Posts: 18,361	Quote: Originally posted by geni I'm trying to decide which photo depectics realists. Histroy suggests it could be either. True, true... but isn't the "realist" position of always predicting failure a type of intellectual cowardice? Human nature being what it is, if things work out well, people tend to forget the predictions of failure, while, on the other hand, if things go badly, those who predicted success are crucified.

2nd March 2005, 11:11 AM	#29
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Quote: Originally posted by rhoadp Does anyone know if there have been anti-US demonstrations in Iraq since the beginning of our occupation? Since the elections? I've searched and did not find any. You don't consider car bombs and insurrection to be anti-US demonstrations?
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2nd March 2005, 11:41 AM	#30
punchdrunk Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,003	Quote: Originally posted by BPSCG You don't consider car bombs and insurrection to be anti-US demonstrations? Not of the type currently going on in Lebanon. I'm referring to rallies and lawful demonstrations, not criminal or terrorist acts. I assume Iraqis now have the right to peacefully assemble?

2nd March 2005, 11:58 AM	#31
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,640	Quote: Originally posted by Skeptic True, true... but isn't the "realist" position of always predicting failure a type of intellectual cowardice? Human nature being what it is, if things work out well, people tend to forget the predictions of failure, while, on the other hand, if things go badly, those who predicted success are crucified. I'm not predicting failer for either side.

2nd March 2005, 12:43 PM	#32
Nyarlathotep Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 7,514	Quote: Originally posted by geni I'm not predicting failer for either side. I will. At least if those pictures are a true indication of the methods used by the opposing sides. An angry man with a gun will get his way over a hot chick armed only with a flag and a smile nearly every time. It has precisely squat to do with who is right or who is wrong, it's just the way life is.
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2nd March 2005, 12:56 PM	#33
Grammatron Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,446	Quote: Originally posted by Nyarlathotep I will. At least if those pictures are a true indication of the methods used by the opposing sides. An angry man with a gun will get his way over a hot chick armed only with a flag and a smile nearly every time. It has precisely squat to do with who is right or who is wrong, it's just the way life is. Unless the hot chick has US and France behind her.
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2nd March 2005, 12:59 PM	#34
Foghorn Leghorn New Blood Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 11	Quote: Originally posted by Rob Lister Here's the first 1000 They misspelled independence. Go guys with guns?
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2nd March 2005, 01:05 PM	#35
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,640	Quote: Originally posted by Nyarlathotep I will. At least if those pictures are a true indication of the methods used by the opposing sides. An angry man with a gun will get his way over a hot chick armed only with a flag and a smile nearly every time. It has precisely squat to do with who is right or who is wrong, it's just the way life is. Not really have a look at how Morocco manged to get hold of the Spanish Sahara (ignore how badly they are doing at holding onto it for a minute).