President of Iraq: "US military must leave in 2 years"

jay gw · 10th April 2005, 03:46 PM

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The newly elected president of Iraq said Sunday he expects that U.S. troops will be gone from his country within two years.

Jalal Talabani told CNN two years should be enough time for Iraqi forces to rebuild and secure control of the country as well as take over the job currently being performed by some 140,000 U.S. troops.

"We are trying to build -- as soon as possible -- our military forces," he told "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

"I think within two years, we can do it, and at the same time, we will remain in full consultation and coordination, cooperation with our American friends."

Talabani said how long U.S. forces remain in Iraq will depend on a number of factors, including "the common desire of Iraqi people and American people."

Two prominent U.S. senators told CNN Sunday they were optimistic that Talabani's prediction could come true.

The two-year figure "probably is realistic in terms of the bulk of the troops," said Sen. Richard Lugar, an Indiana Republican and chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

The Fool · 10th April 2005, 04:07 PM

Do you have a source for the quote from the president of Iraq that you placed in the title of this thread?

Garrette · 11th April 2005, 06:18 AM

I ask the same question as The Fool.

I haven't researched it on the net, yet, but my understanding of news reports is that the new President of Iraq decidely did not say that the US "must leave" in 2 years.

Instead, he said he thinks the US military will be able to leave because the indigenous security forces will be sufficiently competent to allow it.

Huge, huge difference which you should understand.

Rob Lister · 11th April 2005, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garrette
I ask the same question as The Fool.

I haven't researched it on the net, yet, but my understanding of news reports is that the new President of Iraq decidely did not say that the US "must leave" in 2 years.

Instead, he said he thinks the US military will be able to leave because the indigenous security forces will be sufficiently competent to allow it.

Huge, huge difference which you should understand.

I've come to more-or-less expect this from Jay. If he were a reporter he'd work for the Star or National Enquirer. At least he knows how to draw attention to his posts. I just wish he were a little more ethical about it.

Anyway, I voted no. I think we'll be there twenty years from now, just as we are in SK, JPN, GER, etc.

Garrette · 11th April 2005, 06:38 AM

Yes, Rob, it's my opinion of jay gw, too, though I've generally steered clear of his threads because others handle them.

This just seemed like an easy thing to deflate for the benefit of lurkers not familiar with jay.

Beerina · 11th April 2005, 03:52 PM

Can't...control...fist of cynicism. Arrrgh!

> President of Iraq: "US military must leave in 2 years"

Terrorist Leader: "President of Iraq must leave in 2 years and 1 day"

The Fool · 11th April 2005, 04:29 PM

President of Iraq: "could all you knobheads please stop making up quotes and attributing them to me"

jay gw · 11th April 2005, 04:55 PM

Quote:

I haven't researched it on the net, yet, but my understanding of news reports is that the new President of Iraq decidely did not say that the US "must leave" in 2 years.

Maybe you're right, that quote came from another story, I must have mixed them up. Oops!

How strange that nobody believes the US will be ready to leave in 2 years.

aerocontrols · 11th April 2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jay gw
How strange that nobody believes the US will be ready to leave in 2 years.

Your question doesn't ask if the US will be ready to leave. It asks if we will leave.

Thus, your 'no' votes consist of those who don't think the US will be ready to leave and those who think that there will still be a minimal troop presence there, a la Germany or Japan.

That's why The Fool is asking about the quote you appear to have invented.

We can take over

and

US get out

are two completely different things.

Rob Lister · 11th April 2005, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jay gw
Maybe you're right, that quote came from another story, I must have mixed them up. Oops!

Show me that you "mixed them up". Find the story you meant to post and post it here or link to it. It should be an easy thing to do. Just google the quoted term: "US military must leave in 2 years"

You put that in quotes. That has meaning.

There's nothing wrong with the contents of your posts, Jay, they're usually pretty interesting, overall. It's your tactics that are suspect. This isn't exactly the first time you've made up stuff in a topic title.

10th April 2005, 03:46 PM	#1
jay gw Suspended Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,824	President of Iraq: "US military must leave in 2 years" BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The newly elected president of Iraq said Sunday he expects that U.S. troops will be gone from his country within two years. Jalal Talabani told CNN two years should be enough time for Iraqi forces to rebuild and secure control of the country as well as take over the job currently being performed by some 140,000 U.S. troops. "We are trying to build -- as soon as possible -- our military forces," he told "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer." "I think within two years, we can do it, and at the same time, we will remain in full consultation and coordination, cooperation with our American friends." Talabani said how long U.S. forces remain in Iraq will depend on a number of factors, including "the common desire of Iraqi people and American people." Two prominent U.S. senators told CNN Sunday they were optimistic that Talabani's prediction could come true. The two-year figure "probably is realistic in terms of the bulk of the troops," said Sen. Richard Lugar, an Indiana Republican and chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html
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10th April 2005, 04:07 PM	#2
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	Do you have a source for the quote from the president of Iraq that you placed in the title of this thread?
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11th April 2005, 03:52 PM	#6
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Can't...control...fist of cynicism. Arrrgh! > President of Iraq: "US military must leave in 2 years" Terrorist Leader: "President of Iraq must leave in 2 years and 1 day"
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11th April 2005, 04:29 PM	#7
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	President of Iraq: "could all you knobheads please stop making up quotes and attributing them to me"
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11th April 2005, 04:55 PM	#8
jay gw Suspended Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,824	Quote: I haven't researched it on the net, yet, but my understanding of news reports is that the new President of Iraq decidely did not say that the US "must leave" in 2 years. Maybe you're right, that quote came from another story, I must have mixed them up. Oops! How strange that nobody believes the US will be ready to leave in 2 years.
jay gw Suspended Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,824

11th April 2005, 06:18 AM	#3
Garrette Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,540	I ask the same question as The Fool. I haven't researched it on the net, yet, but my understanding of news reports is that the new President of Iraq decidely did not say that the US "must leave" in 2 years. Instead, he said he thinks the US military will be able to leave because the indigenous security forces will be sufficiently competent to allow it. Huge, huge difference which you should understand.

11th April 2005, 06:30 AM	#4
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by Garrette I ask the same question as The Fool. I haven't researched it on the net, yet, but my understanding of news reports is that the new President of Iraq decidely did not say that the US "must leave" in 2 years. Instead, he said he thinks the US military will be able to leave because the indigenous security forces will be sufficiently competent to allow it. Huge, huge difference which you should understand. I've come to more-or-less expect this from Jay. If he were a reporter he'd work for the Star or National Enquirer. At least he knows how to draw attention to his posts. I just wish he were a little more ethical about it. Anyway, I voted no. I think we'll be there twenty years from now, just as we are in SK, JPN, GER, etc.

11th April 2005, 06:38 AM	#5
Garrette Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,540	Yes, Rob, it's my opinion of jay gw, too, though I've generally steered clear of his threads because others handle them. This just seemed like an easy thing to deflate for the benefit of lurkers not familiar with jay.

11th April 2005, 05:12 PM	#9
aerocontrols Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,445	Quote: Originally posted by jay gw How strange that nobody believes the US will be ready to leave in 2 years. Your question doesn't ask if the US will be ready to leave. It asks if we will leave. Thus, your 'no' votes consist of those who don't think the US will be ready to leave and those who think that there will still be a minimal troop presence there, a la Germany or Japan. That's why The Fool is asking about the quote you appear to have invented. We can take over and US get out are two completely different things.
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11th April 2005, 05:20 PM	#10
Rob Lister Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 8,523	Quote: Originally posted by jay gw Maybe you're right, that quote came from another story, I must have mixed them up. Oops! Show me that you "mixed them up". Find the story you meant to post and post it here or link to it. It should be an easy thing to do. Just google the quoted term: "US military must leave in 2 years" You put that in quotes. That has meaning. There's nothing wrong with the contents of your posts, Jay, they're usually pretty interesting, overall. It's your tactics that are suspect. This isn't exactly the first time you've made up stuff in a topic title.

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