Thanks a Lot!

Simon Bar Sinister · 1st February 2003, 04:35 AM

So there I am onstage at the Amazing Meeting with Jamy Ian Swiss, and as part of his card trick he asks me if I believe in Free Will. In the past I would have said "Yes, absolutely!", but after 18 or so months of reading this forum all I could stammer out was "Duh.... I don't know?", causing me to look even more foolish than usual.
Reflecting on my less than elegant response, I realize that I have to thank all of you that have contributed to this forum for making me question all the beliefs I had taken for granted for most of my life. I guess what I said means I have moved up from "Blissfully Ignorant" to "Somewhat Clueless", but at least I'm moving up!
I only wish I had had the presence of mind to say "No, I read the R&P forum, so I know that I don't have Free Will, but I act as if I do!".

Anyway, thanks again everybody.

whitefork · 1st February 2003, 04:46 AM

Suggested reply:

No but my toaster does.

AP's sock puppet · 1st February 2003, 05:27 AM

Don't hold back. Tell us about the card trick.

Yahzi · 1st February 2003, 12:03 PM

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So there I am onstage at the Amazing Meeting

Without meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Man I wish I could have gone.

1st February 2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Simon Bar Sinister
So there I am onstage at the Amazing Meeting with Jamy Ian Swiss, and as part of his card trick he asks me if I believe in Free Will. In the past I would have said "Yes, absolutely!", but after 18 or so months of reading this forum all I could stammer out was "Duh.... I don't know?", causing me to look even more foolish than usual.
Reflecting on my less than elegant response, I realize that I have to thank all of you that have contributed to this forum for making me question all the beliefs I had taken for granted for most of my life. I guess what I said means I have moved up from "Blissfully Ignorant" to "Somewhat Clueless", but at least I'm moving up!
I only wish I had had the presence of mind to say "No, I read the R&P forum, so I know that I don't have Free Will, but I act as if I do!". Anyway, thanks again everybody.

Ummmm this is really sad. Clearly you have not read any of my arguments, or if you have you have failed to understand them. I find it quite stunning that essentially very bad arguments can persuade you of the non-existence of that which is manifestly evident.

Hey! How's life as a robot?

The Central Scrutinizer · 1st February 2003, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Interesting Ian

I find it quite stunning that essentially very bad arguments can persuade you of the non-existence of that which is manifestly evident.

Ummmmm...........what????

Lord Kenneth · 1st February 2003, 06:53 PM

Oh, it's just crap from interesting ian again.

c4ts · 1st February 2003, 07:02 PM

You should have said: "No! You are made of atoms! Atoms obey TLOP! Therefore, you obey TLOP!"

Lord Kenneth · 1st February 2003, 07:12 PM

Heh.

But you don't have free will in the sense that who you are is basically from every other past event...

2nd February 2003, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Dark Cobra
Heh.

But you don't have free will in the sense that who you are is basically from every other past event...

B*llocks

The Central Scrutinizer · 2nd February 2003, 09:39 AM

Free Willy???

tamiO · 2nd February 2003, 10:12 AM

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Free Willy???

Put that away !

The Central Scrutinizer · 2nd February 2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by tamiO

Put that away !

I have both hands wrapped tightly around his neck, and I'm choking him.

1st February 2003, 04:35 AM	#1
Simon Bar Sinister Student Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 39	Thanks a Lot! So there I am onstage at the Amazing Meeting with Jamy Ian Swiss, and as part of his card trick he asks me if I believe in Free Will. In the past I would have said "Yes, absolutely!", but after 18 or so months of reading this forum all I could stammer out was "Duh.... I don't know?", causing me to look even more foolish than usual. Reflecting on my less than elegant response, I realize that I have to thank all of you that have contributed to this forum for making me question all the beliefs I had taken for granted for most of my life. I guess what I said means I have moved up from "Blissfully Ignorant" to "Somewhat Clueless", but at least I'm moving up! I only wish I had had the presence of mind to say "No, I read the R&P forum, so I know that I don't have Free Will, but I act as if I do!". Anyway, thanks again everybody.
Simon Bar Sinister Student Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 39

1st February 2003, 04:46 AM	#2
whitefork None of the above Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: aka kullervo Posts: 2,339	Suggested reply: No but my toaster does.
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1st February 2003, 05:27 AM	#3
AP's sock puppet Thinker Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 141	Don't hold back. Tell us about the card trick.
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1st February 2003, 05:21 PM	#5
Interesting Ian Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Thanks a Lot! Quote: Originally posted by Simon Bar Sinister So there I am onstage at the Amazing Meeting with Jamy Ian Swiss, and as part of his card trick he asks me if I believe in Free Will. In the past I would have said "Yes, absolutely!", but after 18 or so months of reading this forum all I could stammer out was "Duh.... I don't know?", causing me to look even more foolish than usual. Reflecting on my less than elegant response, I realize that I have to thank all of you that have contributed to this forum for making me question all the beliefs I had taken for granted for most of my life. I guess what I said means I have moved up from "Blissfully Ignorant" to "Somewhat Clueless", but at least I'm moving up! I only wish I had had the presence of mind to say "No, I read the R&P forum, so I know that I don't have Free Will, but I act as if I do!". Anyway, thanks again everybody. Ummmm this is really sad. Clearly you have not read any of my arguments, or if you have you have failed to understand them. I find it quite stunning that essentially very bad arguments can persuade you of the non-existence of that which is manifestly evident. Hey! How's life as a robot?
Interesting Ian Guest Posts: n/a

1st February 2003, 06:21 PM	#6
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Re: Re: Thanks a Lot! Quote: Originally posted by Interesting Ian I find it quite stunning that essentially very bad arguments can persuade you of the non-existence of that which is manifestly evident. Ummmmm...........what????
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1st February 2003, 12:03 PM	#4
Yahzi Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 2,672	Quote: So there I am onstage at the Amazing Meeting Without meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Man I wish I could have gone.

1st February 2003, 06:53 PM	#7
Lord Kenneth Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,623	Oh, it's just crap from interesting ian again.
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1st February 2003, 07:02 PM	#8
c4ts Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your base Posts: 8,427	You should have said: "No! You are made of atoms! Atoms obey TLOP! Therefore, you obey TLOP!"
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1st February 2003, 07:12 PM	#9
Lord Kenneth Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,623	Heh. But you don't have free will in the sense that who you are is basically from every other past event...
Lord Kenneth Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,623

2nd February 2003, 06:08 AM	#10
Interesting Ian Guest Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by Dark Cobra Heh. But you don't have free will in the sense that who you are is basically from every other past event... B*llocks
Interesting Ian Guest Posts: n/a

2nd February 2003, 09:39 AM	#11
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Free Willy???
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2nd February 2003, 10:12 AM	#12
tamiO Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,287	Quote: Free Willy??? Put that away !
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2nd February 2003, 11:37 AM	#13
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	Quote: Originally posted by tamiO Put that away ! I have both hands wrapped tightly around his neck, and I'm choking him.
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