Lifegazer's "Philosophy" Invented By L Ron Hubbard

Dr Adequate · 20th June 2005, 12:29 AM

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Hubbard created an entire cosmology, the essence of which was that the true self of an individual was an immortal, omniscient, and omnipotent entity... they concocted the universe for their own amusement, but in the process became so enmeshed in it that they came to believe they were nothing more than the bodies they inhabited.

So, it turns out that lifegazer's philosophy was invented by an egomaniac crackpot with delusions of grandeur --- who'd have thought it?

Mid · 20th June 2005, 01:19 AM

Will John Travolta be making a movie out of any of LG's writings though?

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UndercoverElephant · 20th June 2005, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by Dr Adequate
So, it turns out that lifegazer's philosophy was invented by an egomaniac crackpot with delusions of grandeur --- who'd have thought it?

I have to challenge "invented" here. Hubbard didn't invent it. He just took the basic idea from several religions that already existed and added his own spin to it - all he did was "adapt" it.

But his "adaptation" is remarkably similar to Darren's, save the rather important difference that Hubbard made a vast amount of money out of his version.

Iacchus · 20th June 2005, 05:10 AM

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Originally posted by JustGeoff
I have to challenge "invented" here. Hubbard didn't invent it. He just took the basic idea from several religions that already existed and added his own spin to it - all he did was "adapt" it.

But his "adaptation" is remarkably similar to Darren's, save the rather important difference that Hubbard made a vast amount of money out of his version.

So, maybe L. Ron Hubbard is not a true believer?

Upchurch · 20th June 2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by Iacchus
So, maybe L. Ron Hubbard is not a true believer?

From what I know about the guy, it sounds like he bought into his own hype and, later in life, was a true believer and victim of his own con game.

Bodhi Dharma Zen · 20th June 2005, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by JustGeoff
I have to challenge "invented" here. Hubbard didn't invent it. He just took the basic idea from several religions that already existed and added his own spin to it - all he did was "adapt" it.

Agreed. So lifegazer is either lying (because he has read all those real philosophies) or blatantly ignorant and a ruthless egomaniac.

One thing is true, his arrogance is as high as Hubbard's, with the noted difference about Hubbard being a genius in making money out of his ideas (which are more complex than what is depicted in the OP).

UndercoverElephant · 20th June 2005, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by Iacchus
So, maybe L. Ron Hubbard is not a true believer?

I have no idea what Hubbard's metaphysical preferences are.

I know he knew very well that a lot of money could be made by starting a cult with the deliberate intention of brainwashing people and getting them to devote most of their income into his pockets.

Does he believe that the spirits of dead aliens killed by Xemu thousands of years ago inhabit modern-day humans? Somehow, I doubt it, but that is part of the myth his "followers" have to swallow as fact.

Iacchus · 20th June 2005, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by JustGeoff
I know he knew very well that a lot of money could be made by starting a cult with the deliberate intention of brainwashing people and getting them to devote most of their income into his pockets.

Yes, obviously he had his head stuck up someplace where the sun don't shine.

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UndercoverElephant Pachyderm of a Thousand Faces Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 9,060	Re: Lifegazer's "Philosophy" Invented By L Ron Hubbard Quote: Originally posted by Dr Adequate So, it turns out that lifegazer's philosophy was invented by an egomaniac crackpot with delusions of grandeur --- who'd have thought it? I have to challenge "invented" here. Hubbard didn't invent it. He just took the basic idea from several religions that already existed and added his own spin to it - all he did was "adapt" it. But his "adaptation" is remarkably similar to Darren's, save the rather important difference that Hubbard made a vast amount of money out of his version.
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20th June 2005, 06:39 AM	#7
Bodhi Dharma Zen Advaitin Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Here Posts: 3,807	Re: Re: Lifegazer's "Philosophy" Invented By L Ron Hubbard Quote: Originally posted by JustGeoff I have to challenge "invented" here. Hubbard didn't invent it. He just took the basic idea from several religions that already existed and added his own spin to it - all he did was "adapt" it. Agreed. So lifegazer is either lying (because he has read all those real philosophies) or blatantly ignorant and a ruthless egomaniac. One thing is true, his arrogance is as high as Hubbard's, with the noted difference about Hubbard being a genius in making money out of his ideas (which are more complex than what is depicted in the OP).
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20th June 2005, 05:10 AM	#5
Iacchus Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 10,085	Quote: Originally posted by JustGeoff I have to challenge "invented" here. Hubbard didn't invent it. He just took the basic idea from several religions that already existed and added his own spin to it - all he did was "adapt" it. But his "adaptation" is remarkably similar to Darren's, save the rather important difference that Hubbard made a vast amount of money out of his version. So, maybe L. Ron Hubbard is not a true believer?

20th June 2005, 06:37 AM	#6
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 23,424	Quote: Originally posted by Iacchus *So, maybe L. Ron Hubbard is not a true* believer?** From what I know about the guy, it sounds like he bought into his own hype and, later in life, was a true believer and victim of his own con game.

20th June 2005, 06:42 AM	#8
UndercoverElephant Pachyderm of a Thousand Faces Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 9,060	Quote: Originally posted by Iacchus *So, maybe L. Ron Hubbard is not a true* believer?** I have no idea what Hubbard's metaphysical preferences are. I know he knew very well that a lot of money could be made by starting a cult with the deliberate intention of brainwashing people and getting them to devote most of their income into his pockets. Does he believe that the spirits of dead aliens killed by Xemu thousands of years ago inhabit modern-day humans? Somehow, I doubt it, but that is part of the myth his "followers" have to swallow as fact.
	__________________ "I am real!" said Alice, and began to cry. "You won't make yourself a bit realler by crying," Tweedledee remarked: "there's nothing to cry about."

20th June 2005, 06:46 AM	#9
Iacchus Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 10,085	Quote: Originally posted by JustGeoff I know he knew very well that a lot of money could be made by starting a cult with the deliberate intention of brainwashing people and getting them to devote most of their income into his pockets. Yes, obviously he had his head stuck up someplace where the sun don't shine.