The Reptoids

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

I can say with some assuredness that this guy is entirely serious:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/resona...e/message/4496

~~ Paul

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

He has written a book on the subject:

http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html

~~ Paul

[casebro]

AHA! Now I'm understanding the big picture!

We went to war in Iraq to prevent the meat-spoiling use of WMDs! And, we found them, confiscated them, and hid them. If the Reptoidles knew about the potential spoilage of their food supply, they would have transported us all to the polar regions, where we would have froze to death, and at the same time been preserved for future meals! YEH BUSH!


Boy, that black helicopter is sure noisy. Why is he coming here? Why is he shining that interesting colored light beam AAARRRGGH..........

[turtle]

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
I can say with some assuredness that this guy is entirely serious:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/resona...e/message/4496

~~ Paul

LOL, hey thanks for the plug.

[The Odd Emperor]

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
I can say with some assuredness that this guy is entirely serious:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/resona...e/message/4496

~~ Paul

I always wonder about the whole reptiod thing. What the heck is so compelling about that particular image that it creates such extreme flights of fancy? Could it be some kind of resonate cultural symbolism based on fear that humans are not at the top of the food chain? Too bad I’m not enlightened enough to be capable of reading this book.

From the blurb. http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html

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“The danger arises from our having discovered how the aliens have been using us, and the aliens knowing that we know, and them knowing that we now have a limited capacity to do something about it….. “

…we are a very knowledgeable species.

This fellow used customer service skill to discover the solution to the “alien problem� as well as the solution to the retired businessman problem. I guess if writing a bunch of oddball notions in a book is a good way to alleviate boredom, than it's OK by me.

[wahrheit]

From http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html:

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In 2001, the author's wife was abducted by aliens. She was taken right out of their bed in the middle of the night.

Uh, the usual. It all boils down to s*x. Nothing new from the UFO abductee guys.

[antigray]

Hi Odd Emporer,
I bet a lot of people come to this site looking for answers. I can help. I did 10 years of in-depth research to write my book about the agenda of our advanced Repto Sapien cousins, the problems they create for humanity, and how to solve the problem in a beneficial way.
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My Book:
Warning by Art Greenfield
http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html
Check out my website:
http://antigray.tripod.com/
The revelation of the alien agenda on my website I wrote like a tabloid magazine, but it is all true. Check out all the pages and photos on the site. My book has more detailed evidence, but the website will give you a recap of the subjects covered in my book
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If you want to stay on top of what I'm doing I usually post the important stuff in my group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/

Some of the recent things I found out about the advanced capabilities of the Repto Sapiens are truly mind blowing, like time travel. BTW, I named them Repto Sapiens. They came from Earth originally. If you have any questions, just ask.
Art

"If it is to be, it's up to me."
Anon.

"It's too coincidental to be a coincidence."
Yogi Berra

"The pen is mightier than the sword, but if your adversary is a million years past the sword stage, you need electronic mind control countermeasures."
Art Greenfield
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[Odin]

your not related to Beckjord are you?

[The Odd Emperor]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray
Hi Odd Emporer,
I bet a lot of people come to this site looking for answers. I can help. I did 10 years of in-depth research to write my book about the agenda of our advanced Repto Sapien cousins, the problems they create for humanity, and how to solve the problem in a beneficial way.
=========================
My Book:
Warning by Art Greenfield
http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html
Check out my website:
http://antigray.tripod.com/
The revelation of the alien agenda on my website I wrote like a tabloid magazine, but it is all true. Check out all the pages and photos on the site. My book has more detailed evidence, but the website will give you a recap of the subjects covered in my book
===============================
If you want to stay on top of what I'm doing I usually post the important stuff in my group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marssouthpolereturns/

Some of the recent things I found out about the advanced capabilities of the Repto Sapiens are truly mind blowing, like time travel. BTW, I named them Repto Sapiens. They came from Earth originally. If you have any questions, just ask.
Art

"If it is to be, it's up to me."
Anon.

"It's too coincidental to be a coincidence."
Yogi Berra

"The pen is mightier than the sword, but if your adversary is a million years past the sword stage, you need electronic mind control countermeasures."
Art Greenfield
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Hi yourself! Welcome the forum!

I think most people here are probably *not* looking for answers regarding the reptoid agenda or some other fanciful thing. Most people (here and most of humanity IMO) probably don’t think there is a reptiod (reptilian, Repto Sapiens or whatever you call them) agenda because there is no preponderance of evidence that suggests such a race exists. I’d go further to suggest there isn’t even a smidgen of evidence but that’s why I’m the Odd Emperor.

Thanks for the invite BTW, I might already be a member of your /marssouthpolereturns/ forum but out of courtesy I have refrained from posting. If you are now saying that It’s OK for a skeptic to, you-know; ask skeptical questions on your forum -- that’s very cool of you!

[Winterfrost]

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Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/resona...e/message/4496

Ah... the Anjikuni "disappearances." So often posted. So completely bogus.

The RCMP have a Anjikuni denial posted here www.rcmp.ca/history/anjikuni_e.htm with the very logical argument (clearly a cover-up) that a settlement of 1200 people would not be found that far north.

But I suppose the RCMP are part of the conspiracy. I wonder if trolling the Arctic Circle is like hitting the frozen food aisle for the reptoids. Must be rough on them, being cold-blooded and all...

[The Odd Emperor]

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Originally posted by Winterfrost
Ah... the Anjikuni "disappearances." So often posted. So completely bogus.

The RCMP have a Anjikuni denial posted here www.rcmp.ca/history/anjikuni_e.htm with the very logical argument (clearly a cover-up) that a settlement of 1200 people would not be found that far north.

But I suppose the RCMP are part of the conspiracy. I wonder if trolling the Arctic Circle is like hitting the frozen food aisle for the reptoids. Must be rough on them, being cold-blooded and all...

That’s very interesting. I read Frank Edward’s account back in the 1960s but other than the web page you reference, I’ve never seen any more information on this alleged event. I have seen many web pages parroting Edward’s story but the trail always leads back to one of his popular books.

[casebro]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray

Check out my website:
http://antigray.tripod.com/

HAHAHAHAHAHAH, thanks for the laugh.

I doubt that I'm the only one who comes here for entertainment. And now I've learned something too- I guess I used to think that on a creativity scale of 1-10, I was 9. But Antigray makes me look like an assembly line worker. Maybe I ought to write a book- it looks like it would pay better than a string of patents.

Now I'll have to add 'waste heat from UFOs' to my global warming causes. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...threadid=59147 Obviously, the huge amount of heat generated per E=MC2 as the UFO's move faster than light, must be a major contributor to the warming trend....

I don't believe any of my BS, do some of these guys delude themslves? Are they living in their own fantasies?

[antigray]

Hi wahrheit,
There is sex involved for sure. If you are going to have a huge "cattle breeding program" then the promotion of sex between selected humans, and the alien's actual hands-on breeding of abducted human pairs (routine methods) are a prerequisite for carrying out that program. I personally know 8 female abductees who have had their sex drives tripled as part of the breeding program. It's quite an experience to come under their "Influence." Eve Lorgen wrote about this too. She calls it the "Alien Love Bite." Technically these women have a sex drive that has been artificially enhanced using electronic mind control applied to them through implants. Some of these women have menstrual periods every two weeks. Those implants also send out a telepathic signal which men can pick up that will make you REALLY want these women. As a side note, I found that phone lines will carry that frequency of telepathic transmissions as you can feel it over the phone. The pull is very strong. It is almost like gravity (in more ways than one). As close as I can determine, the implants operate on the same broad frequency as the other alien communications equipment. They transmit using the gravity waves around us as a carrier. Think of it as turning the lines of gravity forces between all masses into telephone lines to carry a signal. This method has the added advantage of instantaneous transmission even over great distances like light years with sufficient power. Einstein called it "spooky motion at a distance." You modulate the line of gravity force here with a transmitter and the it instantly has an effect at the other end. Famed theoretical physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti helped the US government back-engineer this type comm system from recovered alien hardware. Dr. Sarfatti calls it the "God Phone."
Here is Eve Lorgen's take on the electronic love bite motivation (enjoy):
Love at First Sight could be the Alien Love Bite!
By Eve Frances Lorgen, M.A. © 2000

Your eyes meet. Instantly you feel as if you have known one another for years. You may experience deja` vu of having been with this person before-intimately. You disregard the feeling, thinking that this is simple coincidence, or a normal physical attraction to someone of the opposite sex. Then paranormal events and synchronicities occur; erotic dreams and a mysterious psychic link deepens between you and your "dream" lover.

Could it be the real thing-true love? Or is this a love bite set-up, a prearranged bonding drama orchestrated by alien beings?

Believe it or not, a growing number of abductees and experiencers of alien contact are reporting that they have had their love relationships set-up by the aliens who abducted them. After over ten years of working closely with abductees and even mind control project survivors, I believe that the Love Bite is real.

My definition of the Love Bite ranges from simple breakups of love relationships to elaborate bonding dramas between two targeted "abductee" partners, all orchestrated and subtly manipulated by the aliens. Keep in mind that this phenomenon also extends to MILABs (abductees who report both human military and alien abductions) and survivors of mind control projects under the multifarious umbrella of MK-ULTRA.

Discussion of alien medical exams, implants and genetic hybrid breeding programs are commonplace amongst alien adduction researchers. But when it comes down to the dynamics of how aliens manipulate other areas of our lives, most UFO researchers are sheepishly silent. The credibility factor is the issue at stake here and it usually boils down to lack of hard scientific data to prove something so nebulous as love relationship manipulations. Perhaps we are looking in the wrong direction, expecting scientific explanations that are outmoded, compared to what real "alien technology" exists.

Whether the technology is alien or human, a disturbing number of experiencers are coming out of the closet to report that they have had their love lives directly interfered with by the aliens. The classic "love bite" relationship can be best described by these main characteristics. You may have been in an alien orchestrated love bite relationship if these symptoms were experienced:

* You are an experiencer and abductions have occurred in your family line.

* You have dreams of a particular person for several years or even months before you meet the "dream person." You or the other partner is driven to meet one another at all costs. It may become an obsession to find this person.

* Abduction memories and/or vivid dreams of being put together with another mate to bond emotionally and/or sexually. These dreams may be mutual where a sensation of "astral sex" was experienced.

* An increase in paranormal events and synchronicities regarding the targeted partner. Deja vu memories of having known the person before.

* An empathic and even telepathic connection with the love bite partner. Sometimes the feeling is so intense that you feel as though your souls have been joined.

* An increase in paranormal events and alien abduction related activity during the bonding drama.

* Love obsession in one or both partners. Often this happens to the exclusion and switching off to one's current spouse or mate.

* Telesthesia- the sensation of the partner's bio-energy field, especially in a sensual way. This can be the sudden perception of the other person's aura (when it was not perceived normally before), and also the distinct sensation of the lover's touch on your body, even if you are miles apart. For example, the sensation of being kissed, caressed or even made love to when the partner is thinking of you or perhaps "astrally visiting" you. This often happens in altered states of consciousness.

* A "switching off" of the love bite partner while you are still in love and emotionally plugged into the other person. This has been described as an emotional unplugging of the partner-leaving the obsessed person in a grievous state of unrequited love. The switching off often occurs after only a few months into the love bite drama and can often be traced back to an alien abduction or "manipulation" in the switched off partner's experience.

The love bite drama will usually be such that the emotional and sexual tension rises between the couple, because of factors, which prevent the consummation of the relationship. For example, both love bite partners are married to other mates and live miles apart. Or one partner is switched off from the in-love person, leaving them pining away in emotional misery.

There are variations to the love bite dramas, wherein, for example, two abductees are placed together perhaps for the purpose of having children together, and they may not go through all of the stages of the above set of symptoms. Based on the numbers of love bite case histories I have compiled, I have come to the conclusion that there are three possible reasons for a love bite set-up. Briefly, those reasons are for a genetic bloodline study, emotional harvesting, and neutralization and distraction of "troublesome" abductees and/or researchers.

One factor that stands out in love bite cases is the high degree of psychic events, the pattern of love obsession and the sudden switching off of one of the partners. The love bite relationship is disempowering to the abductee. True love is not. When these symptoms present themselves, combined with the memory or distinct sensation of being set-up and manipulated, then it could be a Love Bite.

Do relationships like these happen to non-abductees, which are not being manipulated? The answer is yes. Anyone can experience a love obsession, or a partner who is suddenly glib and becomes uninterested, or even a high degree of paranormal experiences. But the awareness of interference and manipulation, memories of having met before in "dreams" and abductions, and the fact that one or both persons are abductees is usually the giveaway.

In my new book "The Love Bite: Alien Interference in Human Love Relationships," many abductees were able to recognize how their lives and relationships were being directly interfered with. Once they increased their awareness, they were better able to regain control over their lives. If we understand how the process of alien manipulation works, we are better able to determine our own true destiny, and most importantly, finding our true love.

The Love Bite: Deeper Insights into the Alien Abduction Phenomena
By Eve Frances Lorgen MA

The Love Bite is the title of my recent book "The Love Bite: Alien Interference in Human Love Relationships." The term was first coined the "alien love bite" by a small but growing number of aware abductees who began to realize that some of their love relationships were engineered by the aliens who abducted them. I deleted the "alien" notation from the description, because after working with many abductees, I realized that aliens were not the only ones responsible for these anomalous "prearranged" love relationships.
These alien orchestrated love bites often took the form of overwhelming love obsessions with an alien chosen targeted partner—another abductee. The targeted partner was sometimes another local abductee and other times the chosen mate was across the country or even in another country. For those abductees who were able to get together, the relationship was often short lived and passionate, leaving one of the partners in a state of unrequited love. There were many variations to the basic love bite set-up or manipulated relationship, which will be elaborated on more fully later in this chapter.
It became clear that the alien abductors be they Grey aliens, reptilians, human military or other unknown species, were heavily manipulating their "chosen ones" down to the very detail of their love and sex lives! Not only did these aliens set relationships up, but also they interfered in ways to break couples apart, friendships and even families. Clearly, the alien abduction phenomenon entailed more than the simple medical exams, and missing time episodes as reported by the "credible" Ufologists and abduction researchers of the 1980’s and early 90’s.
Rigid academic minds struggled to maintain an empirical nuts and bolts explanation of UFO’s and their abducting occupants. It appeared more important for most researchers to maintain credibility within the eyes of their academic contemporary peers, than to risk taking a step beyond, addressing the deeper issues of this phenomenon. The glossing over of abductee relationship manipulations served a useful purpose, ensuring ignorance, secrecy and powerlessness in the abductee population. Meanwhile, the suffering abductees caught up in the heavy hands of the aliens went largely unacknowledged and unaided.
It took a bold, fiery spirited woman like Dr. Karla Turner to stand in the gap for a growing number of abductees whose voice had been denied by other researchers. Dr. Karla Turner, professor of literature at North Texas University, and vocal alien abductions researcher, started a groundswell movement of abductees who did not fit into the rigid "Grey alien"abduction scenario of medical exams, implant procedures and missing time episodes. Dr. Turner addressed serious issues that had been muffled by the contemporary Ufologists and abduction researchers. Things such as military abductions (MILABS), reptilian aliens, relationship manipulations and deceitful tactics of the aliens were being exposed. Her groundbreaking books included Into the Fringe, Masquerade of Angels and Taken. Dr. Turner understood the suffering of abductees and was able to clearly recognize the masquerade that a majority of the abducting aliens were playing. In Masquerade of Angels, Dr. Turner recounts the Ted Rice story, which is a classic expose of how the aliens perpetrated extensive manipulations and deceptions, including a major love obsession that was clearly engineered by Ted’s alien handlers.

These revelations were an unwelcome shock to many abductees and researchers alike, because Pandora's box had been opened. At least in this case—and many others—it was obvious that the aliens and visiting extraterrestrials were no benevolent spirit guides or earth guardians! They were deceivers with questionable motives who had interfered in abductees’ lives. Not only this, but once the truth behind their activities was seriously challenged, reprisals ensued. Something snakelike was rearing its ugly head, creating chaos wherever it went.

Because of the disturbing nature of Dr. Turner's findings, she was criticized by many of her peers in the UFO community. Most of the criticism came from those who believed that extraterrestrials are here for our spiritual evolution. Other arguments to defend the benevolent ET theories arose, such as any negative alien abduction experience or MILAB (military abduction) originates from our own secret government black projects. This argument is not substantial, as many MILAB abductees observed alien Greys, reptilians and human military and medical personnel working in tandem with one another, often times in our own military underground installations! Furthermore, when the alien –human-military connection was seriously questioned, and exposed by MILAB abductees, reprisals soon followed. These events appeared "coincidental" with the exposure of sensitive information regarding the alien/human connection.

I believe that Dr. Karla Turner died prematurely as a result of an abduction-related reprisal for her boldness in speaking the truth. I personally know abductees and researchers who have been afflicted with a series of unfortunate "coincidences" following exposure to these darker truths. These reprisals included sudden divorces, love bite set-ups, health problems and even cancer. Most whistleblowers ended up being ostracized and discredited publicly one way or another.

After Dr. Karla Turner's death on January 9, 1996, a small group of abductees and myself began getting together on a regular basis. I conducted a regular support group for abductees, and a smaller core group of very aware abductees, who were less manipulated than the rest of the abductees. I noticed that there was a continuum of awareness levels in abductees, and that those who were more aware, psychic and spiritually strong could withstand the alien manipulations and spiritual warfare more readily than the novices who had not yet reached a heightened awareness level. I also observed that the degree of useful information increased with these "more aware" abductees and spiritual warriors.

One thing I’d like to point out is the difficulty working in the UFO/Paranormal/Abductions field—at least when one is sincerely trying to seek the truth and assist abductees who want to break free. The constant criticism amongst mainstream, academic and scientific circles regarding the reality of alien abductions is the lack of hard evidence. But the real problem is not lack of evidence, but the warfare conditions, which keep the average individual and researcher unaware and distracted. I liken my own research as an intelligence gathering operation under adverse warfare conditions with minimal or no resources—except a strong spirit. And to manage this while being able to truly help the suffering abductee or mind control victim without harm, or harm to oneself or family. It is no easy task, and most persons who complain about the lack of evidence or publicly discredit those who are discovering these "dark dirty secrets" are manipulated muppets who have no good works to show for themselves.

One of the reasons I even stumbled across the Love Bite, is because of the distractions aimed at certain individuals who were getting close to "breaking programming" or whistle blowing. This is only one of the reasons behind a love bite set up. To get a clearer understanding of what was happening to a number of abductees in my support group, I began corresponding with Barbara Bartholic, an abductions researcher and hypnotherapist of 25 years. Mrs. Bartholic was well aware of how love obsessions manifested in alien abductees, sometimes following a major abduction event. Love bite set-ups were also a pattern that Mrs. Bartholic observed during intense periods of UFO abduction activity. Barbara Bartholic is compassionate and deeply insightful with respect to abduction related love obsessions and how the reptilian aliens fit into the scheme of things. Much of this information is elaborated on in my book The Love Bite, and I encourage anyone who suspects this kind of thing in his or her own lives to read my book.

My own theory of the Love Bite developed after consolidating my own observations of alien abductions, MILABs, chronic relationship manipulations, anomalous health problems and the paranormal/occult side of the phenomena. I also learned a lot from the more aware MILAB abductees, whose bonding procedures with other persons (especially psychics) served several purposes.

The symptomology of a love bite set up can be described by the conditions below. Remember there may be a variation of these presenting symptoms, depending on the individual and his or her background.

Characteristics, Signs and Symptoms of a Bonding Set Up

a. Multiple abduction histories. In most cases the person had numerous alien encounters and/or UFO sightings. In a few cases the targeted love bite partner did not realize him/herself to be an abductee. For example one partner was told by the" alien handlers" to have been abducted only for the purpose of the love bite relationship with a particular female abductee.

b. Memories of bonding scenarios in abductions, vivid dreams or virtual reality scenarios. Some have described it as a "stage managed" dream where both partners are present in a bedroom scene set up, where both individuals are being given telepathic messages to initiate contact, either on a verbal level or more physical sexual level. Oftentimes either partner appears to be in a tranced out or drugged state. Other stage-managed dreams and/or abductions may have the partners in various situations as if they are being tested for their emotional compatibility or coerced into thinking that this person would make an ideal romantic mate.

c. Supernatural Events and Synchronicities. Uncoincidental coincidences and psychic flashes concerning the targeted partner. Meeting the person seems to beset up in a supernatural way, such that the couple may believe their eventual union to be divinely arranged. A match made in heaven. A first meeting of the pre-bonded partner may set off a series of deja vu memories, flashback memories of previous abductions or dream related bondings. Some have even described it as a "body memory" of having made love to that person before. One or both partners have a strong sense of having known the person before, as if they knew them all their lives or a strong soul connection.

d. Paranormal and supernatural phenomena increases during the love bite set-up. This may include empathic and even telepathic communication between the love bite pair. Spontaneous remote viewing images and mutually shared dreams. Other oddities may include the physical sensation of the partners "touch" or energy field when the other partner is thinking or fantasizing about them. This is known as telesthesia, and is often experienced in a sexual way oftentimes in an altered state of consciousness. These conditions may propel either person to find the other, an obsession to find the dream partner.

e. Strong emotional, mental and even psychic connections with the bonded partner—such that it sets up the conditions and desire for them to meet one another. The connection can be so strong that they have described it as a soul immersion in their beloved or literally having their souls joined to one another. Another bi-product is the amplification of psychic abilities in both or one partner. Some MILAB abductees reported that the reason for the bonding was to amplify their psychic abilities, such as remote viewing to be later used in a secret mission or "mind controlled ops."

f. Love obsession. A need for one partner or the other to be with them to the point of becoming infatuated. This includes the need to meet the person, even if it is in secret, and having to hear the person's voice on the phone, sometimes calling the person daily or several times a day. Just hearing the targeted partner's voice may have a calming effect on the obsessed lover. Extreme anxiety may be felt if the obsessed person cannot hear that person's voice or see them somehow.

g. The obsessed partner usually feels "love at first sight" and may lose all critical reasoning ability. Some have described it as having the compulsion to make sudden life decisions like moving away, changing jobs, getting divorced or going out of their way to do things for the targeted person. It has been compared to being under a "love spell" whenever the obsessed person hears their partner's voice. They may go to great lengths to please the person—doing anything for them, even giving up their life for them.

h. Switching off. One or the other partners becomes unplugged emotionally, leaving the other in a state of unrequited love. Usually the obsessed lover becomes painfully unrequited after the other partner loses interest, often right after abduction. It has been described as the psychic and emotional unplugging of the targeted partner. Unfortunately the obsessed lover still feels the strongpsychic/emotional connection, but the other "switched off" partner feels nothing, leaving the obsessed lover grieving. Or the conditions for the bonded lovers are such that it is impossible for them to consummate their strong love, such as both partners being married to others or living a great distance away.

i. Emotional turmoil in the unrequited partners life. These powerful emotions of love and grief may cause the person to be inspired with creative energy, so that they write poetry, music, or any other art form of creative inspiration. Conversely, the degree of emotional pain may throw the unrequited lover into suicidal tendencies, mental and physical exhaustion or illness.

j. Profound mystical experiences may also be perceived during the time of increased emotional processing or periods of prayer.

k. Increase in alien encounters during periods of high drama and emotional conflict. The alien encounters may also increase if the person gets involved in alternative sexual lifestyles or increased sexual activity—especially if its with the targeted love bite partner. Some have reported increases in reptilian activity with methamphetamine or "crack cocaine" abuse.

l. Some abductees have reported the bonding experience to take place more than once, whereby they have been on both sides of the love bite; the obsessed unrequited end, or the non-unrequited end. When they are on the non-unrequited end, a platonic friendship may be engendered. Some heterosexuals have suddenly become obsessed with a homosexual where a drastic change in lifestyle occurs.

There are variations to the love bite dramas, wherein, for example, two abductees are placed together perhaps for the purpose of having children together, and they may not go through all the stages in the above set of symptoms. Based on the number of love bite histories I have compiled, I have come to the conclusion that there are at least four reasons for these set-ups. Some of these may serve dual purposes. One for the aliens and the other for the cooperating human military or intelligence personnel involved with a particular abductee. In this instance, MILABS or a faction of MK Ultra operatives under the abduction programs. The four basic reasons behind love bite relationships are:

a. Genetic bloodline study or perpetuation of a particular trait useful for the aliens and/or military, intelligence or Illuminati related group. For example high psi and dissociative ability.

b. Emotional soul harvesting of energies siphoned off the abductee for aliens, such as reptilians, Dracos, or demonic powers accrued to human magicians. In cases where sexual manipulations are done, this sexual energy can be used in Montauk type experiments for time travel or psi amplifications, or materializations.

c. Amplification of paranormal abilities such as telekinesis, telepathy, remote viewing and precognition through sexual and soul bonding of other psychic abductees. In this case you can call them MILAB operatives. Some of these operatives may have Monarch Programming or the more sophisticated alien programming based on the fundamentals of Monarch MK Ultra programming. Often times programmers, who orchestrate the various missions for their highly trained operatives, will want to soul bond and sexually bond a pair. This serves to keep the twinned operatives loyal to one another, and increase their performance. For example, when two operatives are so bonded to one another, they can telepathically transmit large amounts of information to one another, sometimes during sexual activity. If they love one another, they will also die for one another, taking greater risks for the success of a dangerous mission.

d. Distraction and neutralization of troublesome abductees, or researchers, who are either breaking programming, whistle blowing, or getting too close to the truth. This may present itself as an abductee client that comes in to work with a researcher, where a love affair ensues. Then the relationship may be an emotional roller coaster, or create chaos in the researchers life distracting him or her from useful research. Or a sleeper operative abductee starts coming to a support group, wreaking chaos wherever they go, which may include a love bite set up with one of the members. It may result in dividing the support group, creating unnecessary enmity between abductees and researchers who could have shared insightful experiences. In these instances the set up serves to prevent useful information from reaching the public.

In general, there is great resistance amongst the UFO abductee population to discuss the more "negative" abduction reports. I can personally attest to this when being on various Internet list groups or support groups held by the less informed group facilitators. The resistance usually is regarding reptilian aliens, sexual assaults, underground bases memories where horrific things were observed, such as the "processing plants, or gory details. Oftentimes even military or government abductions are not allowed to be spoken of. Any hints at Monarch trauma based programming and Illuminati connections are frowned upon. I even know of a case where a certain Internet list group for abductees only made rules to not discuss reptilians or military abductions! This is pathetic, because it shows you how effective the alien programmers are at keeping their chosen ones" in complete denial. I call this "muppetization. I'm sorry to strike a negative tone here, but there is a major problem going on in the UFO community!

Last but not least, I must say something about persons who swear they were matched together by divine or supernatural means to meet their lover. In some cases the couple married and enjoy a good, healthy relationship. I believe there are some relationships, which are guided by benevolent angelic forces and even ones own karma. And yes, I have seen love bite cases where the couple claims that they are happy and it's not an unhealthy relationship contrived by evil aliens. In some cases, I've observed how a love bite relationship was set up as a positive perk to an abductee who helped promote the alien agenda without knowing it. Or the orchestrated relationship served to keep publicly vocal abductee in some kind of economic bondage, or under increasing amounts of control from their partner—whose view of the visiting extraterrestrials opposed them. The net effect was to muffle the public appearances of the abductee, or keep them under a leash with a controlling partner.

One reason why I am skeptical of alien orchestrated love relationships that appear "happy and healthy" is, that when one of the persons starts challenging the alien agenda or its insidious mind control, then all hell breaks loose. It will often manifest as chaos in ones relationship that was set up in the first place. This is a bitter pill to swallow for persons who have realized the extent of control exerted on them by their alien handlers. This same truth extends to those in MK Ultra programs, and Illuminati bloodline families, or cults.

True love will not try to control and manipulate. True love will support freedom from the bonds of ignorance, and encourage individual sovereignty. True love will empower an individual, and work in unselfish ways to promote freedom for others. Most importantly, true love is discerning, confident, unselfish, humble, persevering and deeply compassionate for the suffering of others.

The greater our awareness of what is truly happening in today's sophisticated world, the better able we are able to regain control over our destinies. At first, we will become disturbed. But if our love for the truth outweighs our arrogance and ignorance, we can have a chance for true love and freedom.

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<< Quote: In 2001, the author's wife was abducted by aliens. She was taken right out of their bed in the middle of the night.

Uh, the usual. It all boils down to s*x. Nothing new from the UFO abductee guys. >>

[Winterfrost]

[Dan Beaird]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray
...Technically these women have a sex drive that has been artificially enhanced using electronic mind control applied to them through implants....

Could we get their phone numbers?

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Quote:

antigray said:
One reason why I am skeptical of alien orchestrated love relationships that appear "happy and healthy" is, that when one of the persons starts challenging the alien agenda or its insidious mind control, then all hell breaks loose. It will often manifest as chaos in ones relationship that was set up in the first place.

She's right, you know. If my spouse started chatting about alien love control, I'm confident it would result in chaos in our relationship.

~~ Paul

[casebro]

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan Beaird
Could we get their phone numbers?

Phone numbers won't help- If you were selected for mating, you would have been telepahtically connected already.

But where do birth control pills come in to Antigray's theory? Preventing low quality 'calfs' ? Like castrating the bulls? no- wait- birth control pills for the females keep the males happy, yet prevent the offspring of 'deficient' mates, who were matched by the reptoidles already, thereby keeping the deficient strains from infecting the 'healthy breeders?

Am I gonna be abducted now and have my mind wiped for having this intuition? If you don't hear from me again, it will be proof of the Reptoid conspiracy.....or maybe I'll suffer an implant and become a 'raging bull'? I better stock up on condoms while I remember what they are for, I'd hate to cede my seed to a breeding experiment....

[The Odd Emperor]

Quote:

Originally posted by casebro
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, thanks for the laugh.

I doubt that I'm the only one who comes here for entertainment. And now I've learned something too- I guess I used to think that on a creativity scale of 1-10, I was 9. But Antigray makes me look like an assembly line worker. Maybe I ought to write a book- it looks like it would pay better than a string of patents.

It doesn’t—trust me on this. The fellow wrote a book (sort of) *and* published it too.

From the Booklocker page; http://publishing.booklocker.com/

Quote:

“Get your book out of your head and into the market.
Booklocker.com, Inc. develops low-cost, author-friendly products and services that help authors publish and market their own works. Hundreds of authors use us because we're focused on generating book sales through innovative ways (public book sales are how we make most of our revenue), not upselling authors on fancy print-on-demand or ebook publishing and marketing services. “

I suspect he’s actually here hawking his book and won’t actually engage anyone ina conversation regarding his beliefs.

And it’s very difficult to get stuff like this published through traditional means. Slush-piles are full of this kind of material.

Funny; I ran a thumbnail word count on a “spewing� webpage, I don’t remember which one (might have been Zeta-Talk.) I found that there were over a million and a half words on that page. Utterly fantastic!

[bruto]

I love Antigray's "point K" above. I mean who'da thunk that smoking crack increases your likelihood of an alien encounter!?!? What a mine of useful information!

[The Odd Emperor]

Quote:

Originally posted by bruto
I love Antigray's "point K" above. I mean who'da thunk that smoking crack increases your likelihood of an alien encounter!?!? What a mine of useful information!

I don’t know if anyone else noticed but ah, “Antigray� didn’t actually write that dribble. It was written by someone named Eve Frances.

(Paul?) I’m not sure that it’s proper for that quote to even be here now that I looked at the reproduction license

http://www.alienlovebite.com/main.htm

[antigray]

Hi Odd Emporer,
Perhaps you should look into "Fair Use" of copyrighted material.
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Thanks,
Art

[antigray]

Hi Guys,
I don't mind discussing things in a rational manner any time any where. I can see that some of you are responding in what can best be described as standard formulaic type responses that many have ascribed to a skeptics playbook. Sure, you can have fun and laughs with verbal sniping techniques like sarcastic ad hominem attacks, and all the other contrived negativity. You won't learn anything that way though. If you want to discuss what you are calling my "beliefs," I'm willing to discuss topics, not play word war games. Incidentally, I don't ascribe to "beliefs" in the sense that the word here is being bandied about. That implies faith in something that cannot be proven with physical evidence like gods, devils, or leprechauns. I'm using facts and evidence from many fields in order to draw a conclusion. I'm functioning like a prosecuting attorney presenting all kinds of evidence. They use scientific forensic evidence, eyewitness testimony, expert testimony, circumstantial evidence, historical evidence, and photographic evidence to prove their case to the jury. I have found a wide spectrum of solid evidence showing a supposed alien race is in control of the fate of large segments (herds) of humanity. I present the evidence in my book and cite exactly where it all came from so that you can check it out yourself. I also cite other strong evidence from highly credible human sources but I still document it from several angles. So, do you want to talk or mess around?
Art

[Floyt]

The problem being, antigray, that your interpretation fails the parsimony test. When a big part of the "evidence" must be dismissed due to credibility problems and there are simpler and more probable explanation for each individual remaining item, where does that leave you?

[antigray]

Hi Floyt,
I find your take quite amusing. Nearly all of the critical evidence in my book I vetted first by running it by experts in the various fields, and then letting some professional skeptics have at it. You are the first person so far who has dismissed the evidence without even seeing it.
Art

[Bandersnatch]

Quote:

Nearly all of the critical evidence in my book I vetted first by running it by experts in the various fields, and then letting some professional skeptics have at it.

What are there names?

[The Odd Emperor]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray
Hi Odd Emporer,
Perhaps you should look into "Fair Use" of copyrighted material.
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Thanks,
Art

Thank you, I believe know something about fair use.

It’s really for the mods to decide anyway, my opinion and the author’s notwithstanding.

[The Odd Emperor]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray
Hi Guys,
I don't mind discussing things in a rational manner any time any where. I can see that some of you are responding in what can best be described as standard formulaic type responses that many have ascribed to a skeptics playbook. Sure, you can have fun and laughs with verbal sniping techniques like sarcastic ad hominem attacks, and all the other contrived negativity. You won't learn anything that way though. If you want to discuss what you are calling my "beliefs," I'm willing to discuss topics, not play word war games. Incidentally, I don't ascribe to "beliefs" in the sense that the word here is being bandied about. That implies faith in something that cannot be proven with physical evidence like gods, devils, or leprechauns. I'm using facts and evidence from many fields in order to draw a conclusion. I'm functioning like a prosecuting attorney presenting all kinds of evidence. They use scientific forensic evidence, eyewitness testimony, expert testimony, circumstantial evidence, historical evidence, and photographic evidence to prove their case to the jury. I have found a wide spectrum of solid evidence showing a supposed alien race is in control of the fate of large segments (herds) of humanity. I present the evidence in my book and cite exactly where it all came from so that you can check it out yourself. I also cite other strong evidence from highly credible human sources but I still document it from several angles. So, do you want to talk or mess around?
Art

For myself I would be happy to see *some* evidence to back up your assertions.

I’m not sure what you are calling “sarcastic ad hominem attacks.� Some people are attacking your statements which (you might agree) are a little out of the ordinary. An Ad-Hom attack would be something like “Hey, you’re an idiot!.� I don’t think anyone has said something like that.

BTW, it’s *Emperor* not Emporer.

[Floyt]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray
Hi Floyt,
I find your take quite amusing. Nearly all of the critical evidence in my book I vetted first by running it by experts in the various fields, and then letting some professional skeptics have at it. You are the first person so far who has dismissed the evidence without even seeing it.
Art

Well, at the moment I'm going by the sample available - namely, your lengthy cut & paste exercise at that bewilderingly named Yahoo group. What I see there is a report on "alien love bites" that has all the marks of atrocious data management, and a heap of stuff about the disappearance of people during wartime. My goodness. Who ever heard of such a thing.
Plus Lake Anjikuni, see Winterfrost's post.

So, going by good bootstrapping principles, if we can assume your other stuff is of similar quality...

[antigray]

Hi Floyt,
Eve Lorgen's work is not in my book. I just included it in that post because I was talking about my experiences with female abductees who had experienced what EVE calls the alien love bite. She doesn't have a good handle on the "why" and "how" of the situation as she is not a technically oriented person. She does a fair job of relating the experiences of the alien love bite victims. An abductee I know here in Florida who has the affliction and has been resisting its effects calls herself an AST - Alien Sex Trap.
Sheesh, I am getting all warm and fuzzy just thinking about her enhanced powers of attraction. LOL
Art

[BPScooter]

Please don't ad-hom me, anyone, because I'm within the general boundaries I think.

1> What the heck is the thesis? There are space aliens, they are like reptiles, they do various things.

2>Other than a big giant post here, and such, what's the basis for that?

3> If.... point 1 is true, based on something in point 2, and everybody just suddenly gets it, what difference will it make to me? My life is pretty calm and content, so if there were love-bites going on all around me , would that be any different than junk bonds or crack heads? or fundamentalist bombers?

If the aliens are watching, and letting us go our own way, then I'll just keep going for a while and maybe when I have a bit of wisdom to their ways I'll try to call them or something.

So Art, I get your point but I'm not buying your book or anything.

[Floyt]

Oh, and just out of interest, Art, since you are on to the reptoids and somewhat vocal about it - why do you reckon you are still alive and kicking instead of heading for the Big Meat Locker in the Sky? The scaly guys don't know how to do Internet?

[Dredred]

From antigray's yahoo group:

Quote:

This is a forum where we all can 'think outside the box'.

From the introduction of Erik Beckjords forum:

Quote:

Be prepared to think outside the box.

I thought thinking outside the box means something like not only to question the solution but to question the problem or tools themselves. I guess I was wrong. Apparently it means: Aliens did it.

Ok, here's a little exercise, called "Think outside the alien". Try connecting the dots without lifting your pencil off the paper, in the fewest straight lines as possible, without blaming an alien.

[Beancounter]

Antigray

I know that ad hominem attacks are pathetic and demonstrate an inability to argue one's point using proper logic and/or a knowledge of the subject but, today, I am a pitiful, illogical know-nothing.

Art, in the words of Arthur in Month Python and the Holy Grail, "You're a loony".


I'll just get my coat then.

[antigray]

Bandersnatch
Scholar

Registered: May 2004
Location: Ottawa, Soviet Canuckistan
Posts: 79

quote: Nearly all of the critical evidence in my book I vetted first by running it by experts in the various fields, and then letting some professional skeptics have at it.

What are there names?

__________________

Hi Bandersnatch,
This is a list of some of the more well known people that supplied definitive information vetting the information/evidence in the various topics in my book.
Art

James Oberg
Stanton Friedman
Dr. Jack Sarfatti
Paola Harris
Phil Corso, Jr.
Rose Hargrove
George H. Leonard
Ken Johnston
astronaut Alan Bean
astronaut Buzz Aldrin
Neil Morris
Andey Geim
Jonathan Gray

Are we going to have ad hominem attacks on these guys now? Oh hey, remember the guy that Buzz Aldrin punched out? Buzz came close to nailing me too. He didn't like it that I caught him contradicting himself and Neil Armstrong on some key information about alien structures on the Moon. Luckily for me I had asked Billy Cox of Florida Today newspaper to meet me at the interview with Buzz. Billy writes the UFO and cattle mute articles for the paper.

[Bandersnatch]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray

Hi Bandersnatch,
This is a list of some of the more well known people that supplied definitive information vetting the information/evidence in the various topics in my book.
Art

...list o folks...

Are we going to have ad hominem attacks on these guys now? Oh hey, remember the guy that Buzz Aldrin punched out? Buzz came close to nailing me too. He didn't like it that I caught him contradicting himself and Neil Armstrong on some key information about alien structures on the Moon. Luckily for me I had asked Billy Cox of Florida Today newspaper to meet me at the interview with Buzz. Billy writes the UFO and cattle mute articles for the paper.

Where and when did this occur, and what contridictions were caught?

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Quote:

Antigray said:
I find your take quite amusing. Nearly all of the critical evidence in my book I vetted first by running it by experts in the various fields, and then letting some professional skeptics have at it. You are the first person so far who has dismissed the evidence without even seeing it.

No, I did the same thing.

~~ Paul

[The Odd Emperor]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray

__________________

Hi Floyt,
I find your take quite amusing. Nearly all of the critical evidence in my book I vetted first by running it by experts in the various fields, and then letting some professional skeptics have at it. You are the first person so far who has dismissed the evidence without even seeing it.

(and)

Hi Bandersnatch,
This is a list of some of the more well known people that supplied definitive information vetting the information/evidence in the various topics in my book.

Art

[/b]

You “vetted� your critical data by running it by some people? And some professional skeptics too? Who were the skeptics? Not any of the people you listed! As for dismissing evidence, I find it difficult to even consider evidence that’s never produced.

And more importantly, who gets paid money to be skeptical? I want to apply!

[headscratcher4]

Derail: where do I get a “skeptics handbook� ?

By the same token where do I get a “credulous companion�?

[Dr. DRE]

Mr. Antigrey,

Aren't you afraid that our Reptilian Overloards monitor these forums and will be angry at you for blowing their cover?

When is molting season for the Reptoids? Could we attack them while they are vunerable?

Sincerely,

Dr. DRE (noob)

[SpaceFluffer]

Quote:

Originally posted by antigray
This is a list of some of the more well known people that supplied definitive information vetting the information/evidence in the various topics in my book.

Just listing names tells us nothing. What information did each of these individuals supply you with?

i.e. one by one, tell us what information you got, how, and under what circumstances, and why you have reason to believe that the information is reliable.