The Franklin Coverup - Conspiracy of Silence

Mephisto · 11th October 2005, 07:08 AM

I just ran into this link while researching something else and was frankly quite surprised. Without committing myself to the validity of these accusations (or to the integrity of the sources - I've learned my lesson) does anyone know anything at all about this subject? Has anyone viewed the video?

It seems to me that if the video is still available for purchase AND certain key figures are identifiable there would be some sort of legal action (I don't know what the statute of limitations are for child molestation/abuse/endanderment are in Washington). It also seems to me that any administration since could have prevented the film from circulating by enforcing child pornography laws.

I wonder if a young Jeff Gannon was in the film too?

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

http://www.thelawparty.org/Franklincoverup.htm

Mephisto · 12th October 2005, 06:29 AM

Have I committed another "Aw $hit?" I seems no one has either heard of this supposed conspiracy, or no one is willing to comment on the likelihood that even rich, powerful, conservatives do things they'd rather we didn't know about behind closed doors.

Just wondering if anyone had heard of this - unlike most conspiracy theories it doesn't sound only plausible, but probable. Maybe this is how the Talon News Agency recruits its journalists?

shemp · 12th October 2005, 01:35 PM

I dunno about the validity of his "evidences" but look at some of the other pages (linked on the left side). All sorts of crazy conspiracy ***** about 9/11, the JFK assassination, John Kerry, Vince Foster, Waco, etc. etc. etc. Most of his "evidences" seems to come from The Washington Times, a source not exactly known for veracity. While it's possible, I would bet dollars to donuts that this guy is just another tinfoil-hat looney.

Mephisto · 12th October 2005, 03:30 PM

I hate myself for being so naive about these things, but in spite of my age and experience, I'm still too gullible. If I could think about how to turn up the cynicism and skepticism a notch (without raising my blood pressure), I guess it might help.

I'd still be interested in hearing from anyone who might have seen the video, but I guess that would be like asking someone to admit to having bought one of those suction "penis pumps."

shemp · 12th October 2005, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

I hate myself for being so naive about these things, but in spite of my age and experience, I'm still too gullible. If I could think about how to turn up the cynicism and skepticism a notch (without raising my blood pressure), I guess it might help.

I'd still be interested in hearing from anyone who might have seen the video, but I guess that would be like asking someone to admit to having bought one of those suction "penis pumps."

I got one. It's added three inches in just two months!

I'm glad I could help. Now if I can just convince you to vote for Zod.

Liszt · 16th July 2007, 07:18 AM

wow, what an unpopular thread!

Anyway, the Franklin case deals with victim/witnesses such as Paul bonacci.

On 27 February 1999, US District Court Judge Warren Urbom found Laurence King guilty of a whole range of crimes against Bonacci. King was ordered to pay §1m compensation (actually, $800,000 in compensation, $200K in punitive damages)

here´s a bit from the Judge´s closing comments

"King continually subjected the plaintiff to repeated sexual assaults, false imprisonment, infliction of extreme emotional distress, organised and directed satanic rituals, forces the plaintiff to "scavenge" for children to be a part of the defendant King´s sexual abuse and pornography rings..." there is more, but it gets worse, I think you get the picture.
(source, Dowbenko 2003, and others that i can´t find right now)

not really a conspiracy theory, just a conspiracy. Will people belive Bonacci now? no, he is just ignored.

blndrhed · 16th July 2007, 11:53 AM

Oh man! Just found this thread. This is one of my favorite subjects as far as the most disturbing, under the radar stuff goes. I've read John DeCamps book "The Franklin Cover-up" twice. Here's the link for the updated 2005 edition I own at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Cover...4611286&sr=8-1

Here's a link to the video "Conspiracy of Silence" on google video:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...acy+of+silence

Here's a link to the torrent of "Conspiracy of Silence" if you want to download it:
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Discover...270d76c7070c83

If I had to estimate I'd say DeCamp's book is probably at least 90% accurate considering how many bizarre deaths surround the whole thing, and the fact that DeCamp names so many names in this book, he'd have been sued for slander many times by now. If you choose to read the book, and watch the video. I guarantee you will enter the world of conspiracies. Welcome to the darkside.

Darth Rotor · 16th July 2007, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by blndrhed

Oh man! Just found this thread. This is one of my favorite subjects as far as the most disturbing, under the radar stuff goes. I've read John DeCamps book "The Franklin Cover-up" twice. Here's the link for the updated 2005 edition I own at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Cover...4611286&sr=8-1

Here's a link to the video "Conspiracy of Silence" on google video:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...acy+of+silence

Here's a link to the torrent of "Conspiracy of Silence" if you want to download it:
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Discover...270d76c7070c83

If I had to estimate I'd say DeCamp's book is probably at least 90% accurate considering how many bizarre deaths surround the whole thing, and the fact that DeCamp names so many names in this book, he'd have been sued for slander many times by now. If you choose to read the book, and watch the video. I guarantee you will enter the world of conspiracies. Welcome to the darkside.

So, did Neil Armstrong walk on the Moon or not?

DR

blndrhed · 16th July 2007, 03:43 PM

Hey DR! Man you are starting to piss me the f*** off! Unless you have any knowledge of the Franklin Coverup you'd like to share with us. I suggest you just zip it! I'll give you directions right to my house if you want to go at it toe to toe. Believe me I would love so much if you and me were in the same room right now.

I suggest you abide by the Membership Agreement. I also suggest not threatening another forum member with violence. If you cannot do these things, you will be suspended and/or banned.

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Darth Rotor · 16th July 2007, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by blndrhed

Hey DR! Man you are starting to piss me the f-ck off! Unless you have any knowledge of the Franklin Coverup you'd like to share with us. I suggest you just zip it! I'll give you directions right to my house if you want to go at it toe to toe. Believe me I would love so much if you and me were in the same room right now.

Glad we cleared that up.

Cool your jets, man,

in the same room you and I would be having a few beers and comparing notes on what is more BS than what else.

I am glad I read your post in the other thread before this one.

One never knows, particularly with a new player, where on the sliding scale one is found regarding "conspiracy" and "conspiracies."

I have a pet peeve about the USS Liberty, which was oddly enough resupported when the officer who wrote the investigative report for Admiral Kidd wrote a fine editorial (within the past week) about what the Johnson Administration did to the draft forwarded from Admiral Kidd.

Since I know that the Navy IG basically edited by deletion some 50 pages of the initial Tailhook investigation, and the DoD IG had to be called in, I am not surprised to find Johnson's people having trashed what was initially forwarded as the Liberty findings from Kidd.

If I can find a link to that article, I'll post it.

ETA: Sorry, from Captain Ward Boston, in the San Diego Union. June, not July, 2007.
===== snip a bit=====

Quote:

Adm. Kidd told me that after receiving the president's cover-up orders, he was instructed to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Department of Defense and rewrite portions of the court's findings. He said, “Ward, they're not interested in the facts. It's a political matter, and we cannot talk about it.” We were to “put a lid on it” and caution everyone involved never to speak of it again.

I know that the Court of Inquiry transcript that has been released to the public is not the same one that I certified and sent to Washington. I know this because it was necessary, due to the exigencies of time, to hand-correct and initial a substantial number of pages. I have examined the released version of the transcript and did not see any pages that bore my hand corrections and initials. Also, the original did not have any deliberately blank pages, as the released version does. In addition, the testimony of Lt. Lloyd Painter concerning the deliberate machine-gunning of the life rafts by the Israeli torpedo boat crews, which I distinctly recall being given at the Court of Inquiry and including in the original transcript, is now missing.

Let the survivors testify. Let me testify. Let former intelligence officers testify that they received real-time Hebrew translations of Israeli commanders instructing their pilots to sink “the American ship.”

Boston served as chief counsel to the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the attack on the U.S. Navy intelligence ship Liberty. He also served as a naval aviator in World War II on the carrier Yorktown and as an FBI agent prior to his assignment to the Navy's Judge Advocates General Corps. He is a graduate of the the College of William and Mary School of Law and a resident of Coronado.

DR

blndrhed · 16th July 2007, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

Glad we cleared that up.

Cool your jets, man,

in the same room you and I would be having a few beers and comparing notes on what is more BS than what else.

I am glad I read your post in the other thread before this one.

One never knows, particularly with a new player, where on the sliding scale one is found regarding "conspiracy" and "conspiracies."

I have a pet peeve about the USS Liberty, which was oddly enough resupported when the officer who wrote the investigative report for Admiral Kidd wrote a fine editorial (within the past week) about what the Johnson Administration did to the draft forwarded from Admiral Kidd.

Since I know that the Navy IG basically edited by deletion some 50 pages of the initial Tailhook investigation, and the DoD IG had to be called in, I am not surprised to find Johnson's people having trashed what was initially forwarded as the Liberty findings from Kidd.

If I can find a link to that article, I'll post it.

ETA: Sorry, from Captain Ward Boston, in the San Diego Union. June, not July, 2007.
===== snip a bit=====

DR

Quite a coincidence you bring up the USS Liberty incident. Just got into a heated discussion with a couple of pro-Israel Zionists about that and the Lavon Affair. One said that I gleaned all my information from white supremecy websites. I told her my info on the liberty came from one website, and that was the USS Liberty Memorial website (www.ussliberty.org). Trying to reach these people is like banging your head against the wall. They will insist that Israel can never be held accountable for anything it does. To do so would be anti-Semitic of course. Glad to bury the hatchet with you because if my intuition is right, you would have no problem wiping the floor with me if you called my bluff, because of your experience in the military.

Darth Rotor · 16th July 2007, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by blndrhed

Quite a coincidence you bring up the USS Liberty incident. Just got into a heated discussion with a couple of pro-Israel Zionists about that and the Lavon Affair. One said that I gleaned all my information from white supremecy websites. I told her my info on the liberty came from one website, and that was the USS Liberty Memorial website (www.ussliberty.org). Trying to reach these people is like banging your head against the wall. They will insist that Israel can never be held accountable for anything it does. To do so would be anti-Semitic of course. Glad to bury the hatchet with you because if my intuition is right, you would have no problem wiping the floor with me if you called my bluff, because of your experience in the military.

Being in the military does not make one a great fighter in a bar room. Many a sailor or Marine has made the mistake of presuming such.

The last fisticuffs I was in on a couple of decades ago. I am rusty, and slower no doubt than previously. Didn't win every fight I was in, but I was in all of them.

Last time I hit something in anger, no kidding, I broke my right hand. My second boxer's fracture on that hand. Freaking hard counters Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

DR

blndrhed · 16th July 2007, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

Being in the military does not make one a great fighter in a bar room. Many a sailor or Marine has made the mistake of presuming such.

The last fisticuffs I was in on a couple of decades ago. I am rusty, and slower no doubt than previously. Didn't win every fight I was in, but I was in all of them.

Last time I hit something in anger, no kidding, I broke my right hand. My second boxer's fracture on that hand. Freaking hard counters Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

DR

Yeah, not really a fighter either. My fighting experience pretty much consists of a couple of times I've had to put a couple of drunk guys who got out of hand on the floor, but drunks aren't much of a challenge. Me and my big brother used to fight on a daily basis, so I am pretty good at getting my ass kicked. Ahhh.... memories.

Liszt · 17th July 2007, 07:23 AM

lol @ this thread!

anyway, is that it for comments on the Franklin Case?

blndrhed · 17th July 2007, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Liszt

lol @ this thread!

anyway, is that it for comments on the Franklin Case?

What do you want to know? It all depends on how much you want to believe it all. Was Hunter S. Thompson really into making kiddie snuff films at Bohemian Grove for the elites? Apparently I've read a female journalist, with no association to the case, wonder if he was serious when he asked her if she wanted to kick back and watch some snuff films. Al Goldstein of "Screw" magazine hasn't had any takers on his million dollar "proof of the existence of snuff film" challenge. Larry E. King's personal photographer claims to have stashed tons of pictures of pedophilia in high places and the only reason he's still alive is that if he's killed, he's guaranteed the photo's would be exposed. Alleged victim Troy Boner apparently ran into a hospital in Arizona in, I think, 2002 waving the book "The Franklin Cover-up" screaming that the book was "going to get him killed". He was found dead the next day in his hospital room. Wikipedia page on the Franklin Case is inappropriately titled "The Franklin Case Hoax". It seems that Wikipedia has adopted the media's smear tactics regarding the case. Are they all protecting people? That is definately the conclusion I have come to. I could seriously go on for days about the issue. Follow those links I provided in a previous post, if you wish. Buy DeCamp's book "The Franklin Coverup". I would definately watch "The Conspiracy of Silence" on Google Video. I warn you, though, if you do, you will never see things the same again. So the whole "ignorance is bliss" thing might be more to some people's liking.

11th October 2005, 07:08 AM	#1
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	The Franklin Coverup - Conspiracy of Silence I just ran into this link while researching something else and was frankly quite surprised. Without committing myself to the validity of these accusations (or to the integrity of the sources - I've learned my lesson) does anyone know anything at all about this subject? Has anyone viewed the video? It seems to me that if the video is still available for purchase AND certain key figures are identifiable there would be some sort of legal action (I don't know what the statute of limitations are for child molestation/abuse/endanderment are in Washington). It also seems to me that any administration since could have prevented the film from circulating by enforcing child pornography laws. I wonder if a young Jeff Gannon was in the film too? http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm http://www.thelawparty.org/Franklincoverup.htm
	__________________ "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" Mahatma Gandhi

12th October 2005, 06:29 AM	#2
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Another Faux Pas? Have I committed another "Aw $hit?" I seems no one has either heard of this supposed conspiracy, or no one is willing to comment on the likelihood that even rich, powerful, conservatives do things they'd rather we didn't know about behind closed doors. Just wondering if anyone had heard of this - unlike most conspiracy theories it doesn't sound only plausible, but probable. Maybe this is how the Talon News Agency recruits its journalists?
	__________________ "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" Mahatma Gandhi

12th October 2005, 01:35 PM	#3
shemp Timothy, Timothy, where on earth did you go? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: trapped in a cave-in with Joe Posts: 12,893	I dunno about the validity of his "evidences" but look at some of the other pages (linked on the left side). All sorts of crazy conspiracy ***** about 9/11, the JFK assassination, John Kerry, Vince Foster, Waco, etc. etc. etc. Most of his "evidences" seems to come from The Washington Times, a source not exactly known for veracity. While it's possible, I would bet dollars to donuts that this guy is just another tinfoil-hat looney.
	__________________ Church on Sunday, sleep and nod Tryin' to duck the wrath of God Preacher's fillin' us with fright Tryin' to tell us what he thinks is right He really got to be some kind of nut (I can't use it!) Tryin' to make it real - compared to what?

12th October 2005, 03:30 PM	#4
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Thanks a million, Shemp! I hate myself for being so naive about these things, but in spite of my age and experience, I'm still too gullible. If I could think about how to turn up the cynicism and skepticism a notch (without raising my blood pressure), I guess it might help. I'd still be interested in hearing from anyone who might have seen the video, but I guess that would be like asking someone to admit to having bought one of those suction "penis pumps."
	__________________ "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" Mahatma Gandhi

12th October 2005, 03:37 PM	#5
shemp Timothy, Timothy, where on earth did you go? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: trapped in a cave-in with Joe Posts: 12,893	Originally Posted by Mephisto I hate myself for being so naive about these things, but in spite of my age and experience, I'm still too gullible. If I could think about how to turn up the cynicism and skepticism a notch (without raising my blood pressure), I guess it might help. I'd still be interested in hearing from anyone who might have seen the video, but I guess that would be like asking someone to admit to having bought one of those suction "penis pumps." I got one. It's added three inches in just two months! I'm glad I could help. Now if I can just convince you to vote for Zod.
	__________________ Church on Sunday, sleep and nod Tryin' to duck the wrath of God Preacher's fillin' us with fright Tryin' to tell us what he thinks is right He really got to be some kind of nut (I can't use it!) Tryin' to make it real - compared to what?

16th July 2007, 07:18 AM	#6
Liszt Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,036	wow, what an unpopular thread! Anyway, the Franklin case deals with victim/witnesses such as Paul bonacci. On 27 February 1999, US District Court Judge Warren Urbom found Laurence King guilty of a whole range of crimes against Bonacci. King was ordered to pay §1m compensation (actually, $800,000 in compensation, $200K in punitive damages) here´s a bit from the Judge´s closing comments "King continually subjected the plaintiff to repeated sexual assaults, false imprisonment, infliction of extreme emotional distress, organised and directed satanic rituals, forces the plaintiff to "scavenge" for children to be a part of the defendant King´s sexual abuse and pornography rings..." there is more, but it gets worse, I think you get the picture. (source, Dowbenko 2003, and others that i can´t find right now) not really a conspiracy theory, just a conspiracy. Will people belive Bonacci now? no, he is just ignored.
Liszt Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,036

16th July 2007, 11:53 AM	#7
blndrhed Thinker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: the sticks Posts: 148	Oh man! Just found this thread. This is one of my favorite subjects as far as the most disturbing, under the radar stuff goes. I've read John DeCamps book "The Franklin Cover-up" twice. Here's the link for the updated 2005 edition I own at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Cover...4611286&sr=8-1 Here's a link to the video "Conspiracy of Silence" on google video: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...acy+of+silence Here's a link to the torrent of "Conspiracy of Silence" if you want to download it: http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Discover...270d76c7070c83 If I had to estimate I'd say DeCamp's book is probably at least 90% accurate considering how many bizarre deaths surround the whole thing, and the fact that DeCamp names so many names in this book, he'd have been sued for slander many times by now. If you choose to read the book, and watch the video. I guarantee you will enter the world of conspiracies. Welcome to the darkside.

16th July 2007, 03:01 PM	#8
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Originally Posted by blndrhed Oh man! Just found this thread. This is one of my favorite subjects as far as the most disturbing, under the radar stuff goes. I've read John DeCamps book "The Franklin Cover-up" twice. Here's the link for the updated 2005 edition I own at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Cover...4611286&sr=8-1 Here's a link to the video "Conspiracy of Silence" on google video: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...acy+of+silence Here's a link to the torrent of "Conspiracy of Silence" if you want to download it: http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Discover...270d76c7070c83 If I had to estimate I'd say DeCamp's book is probably at least 90% accurate considering how many bizarre deaths surround the whole thing, and the fact that DeCamp names so many names in this book, he'd have been sued for slander many times by now. If you choose to read the book, and watch the video. I guarantee you will enter the world of conspiracies. Welcome to the darkside. So, did Neil Armstrong walk on the Moon or not? DR
	__________________ Helicopters don't so much fly as beat the air into submission. "Jesus wept, but did He laugh?"--F.H. Buckley____"There is one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth ... His mirth." --Chesterton__"If the barbarian in us is excised, so is our humanity."--D'rok__ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails."-- Robert Earl Keen__"Sturgeon spares none.". -- The Marquis

16th July 2007, 04:08 PM	#10
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Originally Posted by blndrhed Hey DR! Man you are starting to piss me the f-ck off! Unless you have any knowledge of the Franklin Coverup you'd like to share with us. I suggest you just zip it! I'll give you directions right to my house if you want to go at it toe to toe. Believe me I would love so much if you and me were in the same room right now. Glad we cleared that up. Cool your jets, man, in the same room you and I would be having a few beers and comparing notes on what is more BS than what else. I am glad I read your post in the other thread before this one. One never knows, particularly with a new player, where on the sliding scale one is found regarding "conspiracy" and "conspiracies." I have a pet peeve about the USS Liberty, which was oddly enough resupported when the officer who wrote the investigative report for Admiral Kidd wrote a fine editorial (within the past week) about what the Johnson Administration did to the draft forwarded from Admiral Kidd. Since I know that the Navy IG basically edited by deletion some 50 pages of the initial Tailhook investigation, and the DoD IG had to be called in, I am not surprised to find Johnson's people having trashed what was initially forwarded as the Liberty findings from Kidd. If I can find a link to that article, I'll post it. ETA: Sorry, from Captain Ward Boston, in the San Diego Union. June, not July, 2007. ===== snip a bit===== Quote: Adm. Kidd told me that after receiving the president's cover-up orders, he was instructed to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Department of Defense and rewrite portions of the court's findings. He said, “Ward, they're not interested in the facts. It's a political matter, and we cannot talk about it.” We were to “put a lid on it” and caution everyone involved never to speak of it again. I know that the Court of Inquiry transcript that has been released to the public is not the same one that I certified and sent to Washington. I know this because it was necessary, due to the exigencies of time, to hand-correct and initial a substantial number of pages. I have examined the released version of the transcript and did not see any pages that bore my hand corrections and initials. Also, the original did not have any deliberately blank pages, as the released version does. In addition, the testimony of Lt. Lloyd Painter concerning the deliberate machine-gunning of the life rafts by the Israeli torpedo boat crews, which I distinctly recall being given at the Court of Inquiry and including in the original transcript, is now missing. Let the survivors testify. Let me testify. Let former intelligence officers testify that they received real-time Hebrew translations of Israeli commanders instructing their pilots to sink “the American ship.” Boston served as chief counsel to the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the attack on the U.S. Navy intelligence ship Liberty. He also served as a naval aviator in World War II on the carrier Yorktown and as an FBI agent prior to his assignment to the Navy's Judge Advocates General Corps. He is a graduate of the the College of William and Mary School of Law and a resident of Coronado. DR
	__________________ Helicopters don't so much fly as beat the air into submission. "Jesus wept, but did He laugh?"--F.H. Buckley____"There is one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth ... His mirth." --Chesterton__"If the barbarian in us is excised, so is our humanity."--D'rok__ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails."-- Robert Earl Keen__"Sturgeon spares none.". -- The Marquis Last edited by Darth Rotor; 16th July 2007 at 04:13 PM.

16th July 2007, 05:28 PM	#11
blndrhed Thinker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: the sticks Posts: 148	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor Glad we cleared that up. Cool your jets, man, in the same room you and I would be having a few beers and comparing notes on what is more BS than what else. I am glad I read your post in the other thread before this one. One never knows, particularly with a new player, where on the sliding scale one is found regarding "conspiracy" and "conspiracies." I have a pet peeve about the USS Liberty, which was oddly enough resupported when the officer who wrote the investigative report for Admiral Kidd wrote a fine editorial (within the past week) about what the Johnson Administration did to the draft forwarded from Admiral Kidd. Since I know that the Navy IG basically edited by deletion some 50 pages of the initial Tailhook investigation, and the DoD IG had to be called in, I am not surprised to find Johnson's people having trashed what was initially forwarded as the Liberty findings from Kidd. If I can find a link to that article, I'll post it. ETA: Sorry, from Captain Ward Boston, in the San Diego Union. June, not July, 2007. ===== snip a bit===== DR Quite a coincidence you bring up the USS Liberty incident. Just got into a heated discussion with a couple of pro-Israel Zionists about that and the Lavon Affair. One said that I gleaned all my information from white supremecy websites. I told her my info on the liberty came from one website, and that was the USS Liberty Memorial website (www.ussliberty.org). Trying to reach these people is like banging your head against the wall. They will insist that Israel can never be held accountable for anything it does. To do so would be anti-Semitic of course. Glad to bury the hatchet with you because if my intuition is right, you would have no problem wiping the floor with me if you called my bluff, because of your experience in the military.
	Last edited by blndrhed; 16th July 2007 at 05:33 PM. Reason: grammar

16th July 2007, 05:37 PM	#12
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Originally Posted by blndrhed Quite a coincidence you bring up the USS Liberty incident. Just got into a heated discussion with a couple of pro-Israel Zionists about that and the Lavon Affair. One said that I gleaned all my information from white supremecy websites. I told her my info on the liberty came from one website, and that was the USS Liberty Memorial website (www.ussliberty.org). Trying to reach these people is like banging your head against the wall. They will insist that Israel can never be held accountable for anything it does. To do so would be anti-Semitic of course. Glad to bury the hatchet with you because if my intuition is right, you would have no problem wiping the floor with me if you called my bluff, because of your experience in the military. Being in the military does not make one a great fighter in a bar room. Many a sailor or Marine has made the mistake of presuming such. The last fisticuffs I was in on a couple of decades ago. I am rusty, and slower no doubt than previously. Didn't win every fight I was in, but I was in all of them. Last time I hit something in anger, no kidding, I broke my right hand. My second boxer's fracture on that hand. Freaking hard counters Grrrrrrrrrrrr. DR
	__________________ Helicopters don't so much fly as beat the air into submission. "Jesus wept, but did He laugh?"--F.H. Buckley____"There is one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth ... His mirth." --Chesterton__"If the barbarian in us is excised, so is our humanity."--D'rok__ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails."-- Robert Earl Keen__"Sturgeon spares none.". -- The Marquis

16th July 2007, 06:12 PM	#13
blndrhed Thinker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: the sticks Posts: 148	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor Being in the military does not make one a great fighter in a bar room. Many a sailor or Marine has made the mistake of presuming such. The last fisticuffs I was in on a couple of decades ago. I am rusty, and slower no doubt than previously. Didn't win every fight I was in, but I was in all of them. Last time I hit something in anger, no kidding, I broke my right hand. My second boxer's fracture on that hand. Freaking hard counters Grrrrrrrrrrrr. DR Yeah, not really a fighter either. My fighting experience pretty much consists of a couple of times I've had to put a couple of drunk guys who got out of hand on the floor, but drunks aren't much of a challenge. Me and my big brother used to fight on a daily basis, so I am pretty good at getting my ass kicked. Ahhh.... memories.
	Last edited by blndrhed; 16th July 2007 at 06:15 PM.

17th July 2007, 07:23 AM	#14
Liszt Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,036	lol @ this thread! anyway, is that it for comments on the Franklin Case?
Liszt Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,036

17th July 2007, 09:55 AM	#15
blndrhed Thinker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: the sticks Posts: 148	Originally Posted by Liszt lol @ this thread! anyway, is that it for comments on the Franklin Case? What do you want to know? It all depends on how much you want to believe it all. Was Hunter S. Thompson really into making kiddie snuff films at Bohemian Grove for the elites? Apparently I've read a female journalist, with no association to the case, wonder if he was serious when he asked her if she wanted to kick back and watch some snuff films. Al Goldstein of "Screw" magazine hasn't had any takers on his million dollar "proof of the existence of snuff film" challenge. Larry E. King's personal photographer claims to have stashed tons of pictures of pedophilia in high places and the only reason he's still alive is that if he's killed, he's guaranteed the photo's would be exposed. Alleged victim Troy Boner apparently ran into a hospital in Arizona in, I think, 2002 waving the book "The Franklin Cover-up" screaming that the book was "going to get him killed". He was found dead the next day in his hospital room. Wikipedia page on the Franklin Case is inappropriately titled "The Franklin Case Hoax". It seems that Wikipedia has adopted the media's smear tactics regarding the case. Are they all protecting people? That is definately the conclusion I have come to. I could seriously go on for days about the issue. Follow those links I provided in a previous post, if you wish. Buy DeCamp's book "The Franklin Coverup". I would definately watch "The Conspiracy of Silence" on Google Video. I warn you, though, if you do, you will never see things the same again. So the whole "ignorance is bliss" thing might be more to some people's liking.