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sphenisc · 17th November 2005, 08:07 AM

Thought this might interest sceptics:

http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article327528.ece

As a matter of interest, how many ways can you come up with of checking whether you're in near earth orbit or not?

PatKelley · 17th November 2005, 09:35 AM

Quote:

"Anyone with a military background or knowledge of space was instantly ruled out. "

Good thing it's not in the U.S.- that woud not reduce the participant pool by much.

TX50 · 17th November 2005, 09:37 AM

I'd like to know how they are going to explain how they won't be
"weightless" in space.

bagtaggar · 17th November 2005, 11:11 AM

People are really really scientifically illiterate. You can tell them that the vehicle has a newly developed "pseudo-gravity" device and they'll buy it.

Kenny 10 Bellys · 17th November 2005, 12:09 PM

I imagine they'll tell part of the truth, that there is indeed gravity in space, it's just that they'll be flying slow enough to feel it instead of the usual 17,000mph that counteracts it.

There is indeed gravity in low earth orbit, if you climbed a 400-mile high ladder and jumped off you'd fall to Earth, so I imagine they'll use something like that to BS the contestants. Frankly, anyone who volunteers for a reality show of any kind deserves everything they get.

Bronze Dog · 17th November 2005, 12:15 PM

I might just end up watching this disaster. My lack of faith in humanity needs a little reinforcement.

c4ts · 17th November 2005, 04:37 PM

I did this back when it was called "Space Camp."

c4ts · 17th November 2005, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by bagtaggar

People are really really scientifically illiterate. You can tell them that the vehicle has a newly developed "pseudo-gravity" device and they'll buy it.

An explanation from Star Trek might suffice.

sphenisc · 18th November 2005, 05:05 AM

Given that you've been told there's 'pseudo gravity', would Foucault's pendulum work? I.e. if you're in near earth orbit you should go round the earth in considerably less than 24hrs, so the plane of a suitable pendulum should rotate round its axis much faster than expected?

Have I got this right?

Cheers

joesixpack · 18th November 2005, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by sphenisc

Given that you've been told there's 'pseudo gravity', would Foucault's pendulum work? I.e. if you're in near earth orbit you should go round the earth in considerably less than 24hrs, so the plane of a suitable pendulum should rotate round its axis much faster than expected?

Have I got this right?

Cheers

You've been disqualified from "Space Cadet" . Thank You for playing.

sphenisc · 15th December 2005, 08:51 AM

The Telegraph discusses suggestability...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...xartright.html

17th November 2005, 08:07 AM	#1
sphenisc Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,751	Space Cadets Thought this might interest sceptics: http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article327528.ece As a matter of interest, how many ways can you come up with of checking whether you're in near earth orbit or not?
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17th November 2005, 09:35 AM	#2
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17th November 2005, 04:44 PM	#8
c4ts Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your base Posts: 8,427	Originally Posted by bagtaggar People are really really scientifically illiterate. You can tell them that the vehicle has a newly developed "pseudo-gravity" device and they'll buy it. An explanation from Star Trek might suffice.
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18th November 2005, 05:05 AM	#9
sphenisc Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,751	Given that you've been told there's 'pseudo gravity', would Foucault's pendulum work? I.e. if you're in near earth orbit you should go round the earth in considerably less than 24hrs, so the plane of a suitable pendulum should rotate round its axis much faster than expected? Have I got this right? Cheers
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18th November 2005, 05:09 AM	#10
joesixpack Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Edge of the continent, Pacific county, WA Posts: 3,489	Originally Posted by sphenisc Given that you've been told there's 'pseudo gravity', would Foucault's pendulum work? I.e. if you're in near earth orbit you should go round the earth in considerably less than 24hrs, so the plane of a suitable pendulum should rotate round its axis much faster than expected? Have I got this right? Cheers You've been disqualified from "Space Cadet" . Thank You for playing.
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15th December 2005, 08:51 AM	#11
sphenisc Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,751	Space cadets The Telegraph discusses suggestability... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...xartright.html
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