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Old 30th December 2003, 06:16 AM   #1
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It Broke!!

Introduction by Luke T.:  Sooner or later, it breaks.

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It looks as if the little yellow plastic tag has fallen off. Since this is an integral part, holding as it does the battery clip that powers the blue light and stuff I think I will have to throw it away.

That's the third one I've had and it's gone the same way as the others. I might get a green one next with a red light on it. The only thing is that the green one has that annoying wobbly bit as an extra, I'm not keen on that. Oh well.

Have you ever had one? Did it break? Any recommendations for a better one? Perhaps one not built in Albania?

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Old 30th December 2003, 06:30 AM   #2
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Have you tried duct tape?
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Old 30th December 2003, 06:58 AM   #3
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Why not get another one and paint it green, so you get the quality of the green one without the wobbly bit?
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Old 30th December 2003, 07:12 AM   #4
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Have you tried duct tape?
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Why not get another one and paint it green, so you get the quality of the green one without the wobbly bit?
I've tried both, but the Teflon non-stick areas just wont have any of it.

It wasn't nice sitting there covered in tape and green paint chips.
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Old 30th December 2003, 07:17 AM   #5
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I turned mine upside down, gravity held the tab in place and the light started working again.
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Old 30th December 2003, 07:31 AM   #6
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The Swiss make a better one. You can get them in any color you like, as long as that color is red.
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Old 30th December 2003, 07:50 AM   #7
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The Swiss make a better one. You can get them in any color you like, as long as that color is red.
Yeah, but have you ever counted how many things you have to pull to turn it on?
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Old 30th December 2003, 07:56 AM   #8
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Of course it broke. It's supposed to break, and you're supposed to buy another one. That one's going to break, too.

If you got one that didn't break, think what that would mean to those who earn their daily bread making ones that do break!

Heartless so-an-so...

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Old 30th December 2003, 07:59 AM   #9
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It's just another sign of our throw-away society. My grandmother has one of the old fashioned ones. She cleans it faithfully after every use and it's lasted her damned near 30 years.
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Old 30th December 2003, 08:32 AM   #10
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Mine melted. Burned a hole in the roof. Insurance wouldn't pay up because it had "Indoor use only" in 3-point Serbo-Croat on the bottom, just between the magazine and the throttle capacitor.
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Old 30th December 2003, 08:52 AM   #11
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It's just another sign of our throw-away society. My grandmother has one of the old fashioned ones. She cleans it faithfully after every use and it's lasted her damned near 30 years.
Oh! Ive never seen an antique one. Was it the bakelite and brass one or the cheaper but somewhat more robust cast iron one?

I bet it looks nice polished. Not like these plastic ones these days.

I thought mine was going to go at the handle, they often go there, I think they have improved the design in that area though.
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Old 30th December 2003, 08:59 AM   #12
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OK! Now, is it a guy's only thread? What did I miss? What are you talking about?
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I've heard some good things from people who have bolted there's onto the dishwasher so you no longer need the battery to power the light and stuff. However, I'm not sure how you can do that and still retain access to the squirrel cage and the rear view mirror.
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I have an old coal-fired one I inherited from my grand-dad, but it's so hard to find coal any more...
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Old 30th December 2003, 09:22 AM   #15
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I have an old coal-fired one I inherited from my grand-dad, but it's so hard to find coal any more...
Did they not do a conversion kit at one time for that type?

I think it used those big lead/acid cells, of course the drawback was that you still had to push and pull it and you didn't get that lovely "lime light" effect from the mantle.
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Did they not do a conversion kit at one time for that type?
The conversion kits I saw were still combustion types, you know, a bowl and grate for kerosene or burner for propane. I didn't know you could convert them to electric.
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Did they not do a conversion kit at one time for that type?

I think it used those big lead/acid cells, of course the drawback was that you still had to push and pull it and you didn't get that lovely "lime light" effect from the mantle.
I never looked into it; I use mine merely as a conversation piece. I figure brass polish is cheaper than a conversion kit. It looks lovely by candlelight.
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Old 30th December 2003, 09:42 AM   #18
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When I done kill somethings, George always gives me new one. "Lennie" he says. He says to me "Lennie- DON'T shake her too hard this time. Babys don't like to be shaked!", he says to me.


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my solar powered model gave me a solid 10 years of service before calling it quits.

i went by the local repair shop that was the only authorized service center for it to see if they could fix it. much to my dismay, it's now a Starbucks.

ha, the irony! a Starbucks!!!
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I've learned to live without one. Life isn't as convenient any more, but I've adapted. I figure the time I save by not constantly having to fiddle with it makes up the difference.
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my solar powered model gave me a solid 10 years of service before calling it quits.

i went by the local repair shop that was the only authorized service center for it to see if they could fix it. much to my dismay, it's now a Starbucks.

ha, the irony! a Starbucks!!!
Solar powered? So the blue light is only on when the sun is out? Now that is irony. Who needs the blue light when the sun is out?
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Interestingly enough, the very first ones were made of wood. Mind you as I understand it there are very few of these left. I think once they became popular and the usefulness of them was established, mass production became the overriding issue. Which is a shame.

There are some nice Japanese ones however any authority on them will tell you straight ..."don't get one made in the mid 70's!" They will say. They had a lot of quality assurance problems. It was all hushed up, which is understandable. When one considers the thousands purchased each year I suppose my yellow tag falling off, when looked at in the correct perspective, is not that bad. I still miss it though.............terribly.
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I have a question about the wooden ones. I have one of the original japanese ones made out of bamboo. I was told that it's not really the same thing because the bamboo is already circular. All they have to do is drill a few holes. Does this really matter? It still works, or at least I assume it does, It's fragile and I don't want to risk breaking it by trying to get it spinning again.
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Old 30th December 2003, 11:55 AM   #24
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the secret is to buy a strawberry flavoured one.......I just run out of wine.....doh
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I have one of the original japanese ones made out of bamboo.
Whoa! That's a collector's item. You can get thousands on Ebay for one of those. Which artist made it?

edited to add: it's only worth something if you haven't drilled on it!
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Whoa! That's a collector's item. You can get thousands on Ebay for one of those. Which artist made it?
I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but the ideogram looks like a dead bird that hit a corvette window during a hurricane.
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I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but the ideogram looks like a dead bird that hit a corvette window during a hurricane.
Thats a shame...the one's that bring in the real money are those marked like a dead bird that hit a truck window.


Oh and the spirit level has to be intact....and before you ask, no, a replacement Korean stand will not help the matter. Watch out for those, it's possible to get badly conned unless you know what to look for..
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I'd be careful with those bamboo ones, I know a couple of people who have lost their earlobes using those things.
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OK! Now, is it a guy's only thread? What did I miss? What are you talking about?
I think that they are playing the Surrealists..
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I'd be careful with those bamboo ones, I know a couple of people who have lost their earlobes using those things.
The wood is so thin that the edges end up rather sharp. But it's too fragile to use so I just keep it on the knick-knack shelf.
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I think that they are playing the Surrealists..
Nooo thats next Saturday! If anyone wants to be on the JREF Soccer team for the upcoming game with the surrealists, let me know.

Mind you if it was anything like the last game, our people stood huddled discussing the physics of the ball movement, how luck not only does not play a part in the game but how it doesn't exsist...and while this is going on the surrealists are scoring goals by kicking fish, bananas,bowler hats and melting watches into the net!

106-nil. Oh well.
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and while this is going on the surrealists are scoring goals by kicking fish, bananas,bowler hats and melting watches into the net!

106-nil. Oh well.
I though we successfully argued that none of those goals counted as not a single one involved the soccer ball?
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I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but the ideogram looks like a dead bird that hit a corvette window during a hurricane.
Oh. That guy. He got greedy and started having them machine-made in bulk quantities by child laborers. You can tell because all the parts are perfectly interchangeble with any other one he claims to have made.
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If you feel like spending the money, you can get a custom one. I think it is well worth the extra expense. They'll engrave it and everything.
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I though we successfully argued that none of those goals counted as not a single one involved the soccer ball?
Well actually getting the ball back into play was hard enough, it was our own fault. If the Science posters hadn't insisted on making that scale hydrogen atom with the ball and a tangerine we may have stood a chance!
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If you feel like spending the money, you can get a custom one. I think it is well worth the extra expense. They'll engrave it and everything.
Mine was engraved......the tag still fell off!
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I inherited one of the coal-fired models with the eccentric camshaft and would like to use it in my home. I figure I can always knock out a wall or two to make room. But, I am worried about greenhouse gas emissions. If I electrify it, will it destroy its value on the antique market?
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Ok. Mine broke too and it was one of the green ones.
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I inherited one of the coal-fired models with the eccentric camshaft and would like to use it in my home. I figure I can always knock out a wall or two to make room. But, I am worried about greenhouse gas emissions. If I electrify it, will it destroy its value on the antique market?
You just can't get the cells anymore. If you rip the guts out you can put more modern one inside the original shell, but I would advise against it. As you quite rightly suspect, it will ruin the value of the thing. I don't think I've even seen one of these ersatz-coal fired ones on e-bay.
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I inherited one of the coal-fired models with the eccentric camshaft and would like to use it in my home. I figure I can always knock out a wall or two to make room. But, I am worried about greenhouse gas emissions. If I electrify it, will it destroy its value on the antique market?
If you have a Significant Other, you should check with her first before knocking out any walls. They aren't as enamored with these things as we are. They tend to be more pragmatic, and if she finds out about the newer, smaller, battery operated ones, she will probaby get very angry. I like the idea of "antique," though. This could be a real selling point with her during your negotiations.

If the brass fittings have been replaced with the plastic swageloks, I don't know what to tell you. They kind of lose their charm after that. A good tool and die guy just might be able to save it and your marriage though.
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